/v/ - Video Games

>>16650079

>Bowser

>Yes with Bowser and Piranha Plant

>got to 33rd place out of almost 200 people

>Doomguy pls

>Hero might be too complex for me but I hope Banjo can become my secondary

>Expectations for Hero and Banjo

Hero needs to come out soon, same with Banjo. By Fall, I hope they mean mid-October and not something like late November. It's already "Summer" too, so I'm surprised we don't have a solid release date yet for Hero.

>>16650096

>Etika was at the front of the image

I didn't expect this.

>>16650316

My hands are big enough to make the Duke feel normal yet I don't have any problems using the Joycons. You must be on the top 1% of hand sizes. Try borrowing a pro controller.

>>16650277

>>16650096

>that's Etika

I thought it was a recolored Dunban.

What does everyone think Banjo's down smash and up smash will be?

>>16650093

>TFW no Neo Mach Rider by Platinum Games about shooting and motorcycle stunts.

>>16650358

I would love to have Chunky Kong for both Smash and a new DKCR game. Something about a super strong coward makes him fun. Though Funky will be the next fan favorite pick.

>>16650316

>Not using Gamecube controller.

>>16651277

>Banjo doesn't seem to have that much depth from his gameplay, but I feel like that's fitting since Banjo is a character that should've been in from the very beginning.

I have to suspect that, given the egg moves, Banjo may have multiple moves per direction. Plus I can't see him using the shock pad in midair.

>>16651296

You, a low-IQ troglodyte: Geno for Smash

Me, a gentleman of patrician taste: Fawful for Smash

>>16650316

>Tiny buttons and controller make it difficult to use without getting hand cramps

Are you one of those omega fags who complained about the original 3DS hurting their tiny baby hands with their corners?

It's true the joycons aren't really suited for smash. A non-pleb wouldn't even have considered playing it without a NGC controller anyway. But the 'cons are perfectly suited to things like odyssey, splatoon or BOTW.

>>16651461

I just got a grip for joycons, even handled mode. Feels comfy. That said joycons are shit for Smash because the analog sticks need a lot of deadzone flipping. They're when you have to tilt stick half point to another half point without slamming the stick. Pro Controller surprisingly does a good job handling those small yet violent shakes minus octanglular gate. Especially with the buffer system they added. MonHun is another game that benefits from pro controller over joycon because Generations was made with the 3DS circle pad in mind. 3DS circle pad is for gently pushing in a direction for precision movement, not pushing on the edge. Joycon sticks is serviceable but Pro/Gamecube is preferred.

Splatoon 2 has gyro so I don't rely on sticks for precision. Same with Skyrim gyro aiming with spells and bows.

>>16651509

Has someone modded it out yet?

>>16651591

not that I know of, maybe if enough of us bitch to Nofriendo they'll fix it

>Main and Secondary?

DK and Mario

>Reached Elite Smash already and with who?

DK

>Recent tournament placing?

none

>Hopes for DLC and Balance Patches

I'm hoping for a surprise AT Upgrade like Ray MK III or Saki. That said I'm quite worried about future DLC for the franchise in general, mainly due to the reaction from normalfags about DQ Hero. Like I'm personally fine with third parties as Dante is one of my most wanted characters. However I feel like Nintendo is kinda missing the point by adding so many third parties like Joker, Snake and Cloud, at the expense of both essential characters (Waluigi, Bandana Dee and Krystal) deep cuts (Isaac, Ray MK III and Saki) and interesting characters that no one would expect (Tinstar, Pious, Ayumi). Mix all four of these in the base game and I would take the DLC as a treat, however we only have 12 newcomers this time around not including echo's and three of these characters are extremely underwhelming.

Additionally Ultimate just feels rushed in terms of content if you take away the stages and characters. World of Light was terrible and I hope it never returns, All Star Mode doesn't even exist, Stage Builder and Homerun Contest have to be patched in, Smash Tour is completely absent despite being one of the highlights of the 3DS version and Adventure mode from Melee still hasn't made a return. In general it seems that Sakurai is just getting too old to keep making Smash Bros, and it shows in his work. Especially when we compare the 18 base roster from Brawl to Ultimate's six.

>Expectations for Hero and Banjo

I expect DQ Hero to be a unique character with his own gimmick, kinda like Ryu and his command moves. With Banjo I'm not really sure what to expect, however Rat-a-tat Rap should be a forward air, not a back air. So I'm quite disappointed by that.

>>16651296

>>16650358

>More Mario shit

Just put in Waluigi and Geno and then fuck off with it. Same for Pokemon.

>>16651737

>however Rat-a-tat Rap should be a forward air, not a back air

I think it'll be both, anon.

I'm hoping neutral air is Pack Whack but I doubt it.

>>16652601

I'm hoping Down Smash is Pack Whack and that Neutral Air is an aerial backpacked version of Kazooie's dash attack, sort of similar to how Piranha Plant sticks it's leaves out, Kazooie would stick out her wings in a similar fashion.

>people complaining about sword using characters in a franchise that is dependent on the weapon of choice for each character in their own series

>16 = more than half of 70

every time

I hope dante and darksoul get in and they are both sword slingers.

>>16653736

In their defense, 16 swordies is a few short of a quarter of the roster and people are probably just tired of disjoints and zoning considering how negatively projectile spam is viewed. I don't mind though cause i just camp out swordies with one of the belmonts or pit anyway

>>16652628

HELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLOHELLO

>Hopes for DLC

That leak promised me a Rhythm Heaven rep and I'm still waiting for it.

>>16654587

is it wrong I find meta knight hot in a cute way

Kirby

ROB, Ness. lucina as specific counterpick

Most of the cast

Top with solo kirby. satisfied considering I had 0 experience on the matchups I lost, so ready to tackle those next tourney and its easy peasy

I wanted Simon, a DQ rep, an SMT rep, Banjo. I got them all. would've preferred SMT over Persona but whatever. Give me Geno and the game has everything.

Buff Kirby. Buff Bowser jr. Buff the puff. Buff k. rool.

Hero is gonna be pseudo-technical with memory muscle on menu choices, and he seems minimum high tier with a wide toolkit, probably top tier.

Banjo seems minimum upper mid, and i estimate him to be top tier.

>not a fast faller, but good fall speed

>above average and speedy like lucina

>crazy good recovery with upB and hypothetically sideB

>sideB very good to get out of disadvantage

>DownB item like diddy. Explodes on shield so enemy not grabbing your turnip. controls neutral

>Disjointed kazooie like a sword. if bair is gonna be rack up damage Fair will be the functionality of bair, being a strong hit.

>if dash attack like in game it will be good, not as good as snake's but same motion

<if down air is like in game it will be shit

>Nair could be pack wack being really good lingering landing option.

Banjo seems like a zoner anti-zoner with a sword. His toolkit is good. What we need to see is if the frame data allows him to be top tier.

>>16654666

Also his tilts are really good so far

>dtilt leaves them juggling for combos

>tilt is fast, long and great poking tool

Banjo and Hero will both be minimum high tier, like all third party DLC

>>16654587

Smash is for fags

Am I the only one who liked when SSB had fewer but more unique characters?

>>16654924

You're not, but if you ask me this mentality's wrong. Ultimate has more unique characters than any of the previous games with the exception of 64. Back when Sakurai didn't know what the fuck he was doing we had shittons of clones in Melee and a few in Brawl.

>>16654924

Aesthetically, Smash 64 is still my favorite. I wish Smash Bros. would attempt to be more cartoony and have the "All-Star" feel to it rather than trying to be gritty or serious.

>>16654968

What sort of DKR, Conker, Banjo-Kazooie or Rare music do you expect or would want? Even if they're not remixed (which I would prefer), I hope we get a decent amount of tracks. 30 would be good but I feel that may be asking for much.

And doesn't Nintendo own the music to DKR anyway? Like, they don't own any of the characters in DKR, but for some odd reason they own the music?

>>16655012

not expecting remixes*

>>16655012

As much as I don't care for the remixes, I'd love it if they remixed the mini-game theme from Tooie into a Smash Bros. style. I feel as if almost every song or piece of music from the first two games could be included and it would fit fine. I expect we might get a medley remix too. Apparently Grant Kirkhope was told specifically not to make a medley track.

>>16654931

Is more characters automatically better?

>>16655061

I never said that

>>16655061

Always. Just keep on adding more and more characters with unique fighting styles until you can't add no more. Don't worry about balance at all. Let the fans sort that out with tiers later. Just keep cramming as many new fighters as possible.

So long 1 character doesn't dominate everyone else (Brawl's Meta Knight) and countered by at least 1 other fighter, your fighting game is already somewhat balanced. It'd be boring to go to a tournament and see everyone using Meta Knight because no other character can check him. Variety is the spice of life.

Is there a .nsp to unlock joker like plant?

>>16655061

Well the problem is when a new game comes out and it removes a character you liked to play. I love to play ice climbers and when they were removed from Smash 4 because of the 3DS version, and I had the Wii U version, it pissed me off. No matter what Nintendo does after Ultimate, they are going to have to cut the roster somehow. Mashpotatoes even said they would. And it creates a really weird problem. If your character is removed from the game, why would you even bother buying the new one?

Ultimate is a lot better than Brawl. I couldn't go back to Brawl from Smash 4, even for ice climbers. But Ultimate set the bar high, I think they will have to do something really special with the next smash if they want to get people who had their favorite character removed to upgrade.

>>16655129

The next Smash will likely be a straight up reboot with a new gameplay style.

>>16655132

Or they'll revamp everyone's movesets and try to match them as close as possible to actual things they can do within their own games.

>>16650079

>Main and Secondary?

Dedede and DK. I want to get good with Wario.

>Reached Elite Smash already and with who?

Nope, don't play online.

>Recent tournament placing?

2nd in a loser bracket.

>Hopes for DLC and Balance Patches

Earthworm Jim would be fun, but isn't coming. It's probably going to be someone from the Tales Of series.

>Expectations for Hero and Banjo

It's nice to see someone use a shield as a part of their moveset and I'm happy to see Banjo on a Nintendo platform again.

>>16655557

>Meleefag

>Crash is autism

>>16655787

Nah, I ain't like that. I prefer Melee because it feels the most compact if that makes any sense to you, and I like all DLC characters, including autismo tiers, but there's just this thing that nuSmash lacks and I can't really put my finger on it but it's like a mix between the speed, the clarity and the sound design.

>>16654983

I would like Strangled Shrine.

>>16650079

>Main and Secondary?

Ganondorf for sure, Secondary kinda alternates between K. Rool and Ridley.

>Reached Elite Smash already and with who?

Hacked Switch, can't play online, got it hacked for smash, hell I even had it pre ordered but when it leaked I went a bit mental and hacked it just so I could play my bing bing wahoo earlier.

>Recent tournament placing

Never played one

>hopes for DLC and balance patches

Give me Doom guy, I don't even know why I want him, I guess he's just the most sensible choice out of the ones I like to hope for. For balance, I guess maybe buff Dedede or something? I'm not too sure.

>Expectations of Hero and Banjo

Hero, I could give less of a shit about, never wanted him in as it lowered the chances of Doom Guy getting in via just simple math 3 slots are taken, 1 is almost certainly three houses rep, leaving one actual good character and never was interested in Dragon Quest, though I might check it out, was never really an RPG guy though. Banjo looks fun, but I never played his original games so I don't really care much about him, the fact ninty actually did put him in though surprises me.

>>16650079

>Main and Secondary?

Mario and Ness. I've stuck with both since Melee, though I only really started trying to git gud with 4.

>Reached Elite Smash already and with who?

Yeah, Mario and Ness

>Recent tournament placing?

I've actually never gone to a tournament before. I'd have to check for locals in my area.

>Hopes for DLC and Balance Patches

Amaterasu would be sweet but I won't hold my breath.

>Expectations for Hero and Banjo

I love DQ so I'm pretty hyped for Hero. I hope he isn't too reliant on his special and strong normals to back himself up as I've been a fan of resource managment. I've never played Banjo Kazooie but they look fun. I'm expecting them to a basic all-rounder which is more my speed.

>>16655557

Melee modding is extremely primitive for a reason and if the fucking Melee community isn't autistic enough to progress further with it, then no one is.

Just play one of the various PM builds floating around, most notably Legacy XP and Remix.

>>16656343

Stevefags have to be the worst thing to exist period next to unironic Undertalefags and Fortnitefags

They screech about a piece of shit template character and saying "oh he could have a unique moveset!" while literally the most you could do is build walls/use the blocks, which I'm sure they could find a perfectly good Nintendo or any other character with more ties to Nintendo to do the job but better. Aside from blocks, all Steve fucking has is a Link clone moveset.

And then, when told that their character looks like shit, they point to Mr. Game and Watch.

>>16650079

>>Main and Secondary?

King K Rool & Shulk as my mains with ZSS & Cloud as my secondary

>>Hopes for DLC and Balance Patches

The last two fighters in the fighter pass is both Doomguy/Doom Slayer and Crash Bandicoot along with a surprise extra DLC fighter after the fighter pass is done

>>Expectations for Hero and Banjo

Both of them would be fun to play as, the music selection for the DQ Hero pack is more than two tracks (And from the look of how things are going, there's a high chance of that happening), and Banjo's stage have Gruntilda making banters & rhymes to the fighters in Banjo's stage.

>>16654093

I hope you're not implying about the Grinch leak. Or is there another "leak" that talks about a Rhythm Heaven rep being a DLC fighter that I didn't heard about?

>>16656343

And I still to this day think that VergeBen's comment about "Minecraft content in the base game of Smash Ultimate" is based on one of his sources mistaking the pig from Cubivore as being the same pig from Minecraft. Still kinda disappointed that Sora didn't make the cut but since SE is only OK with their characters being in Smash Bros as long as their characters are DLC fighters, I'm hoping that the next Smash Bros will get Sora as DLC.

>>16656308

>The most likely characters will be from either Capcom or Namco Bandai if the Mii Costume theory holds any water.

I'm still skeptical about that theory because we didn't get Virtua Fighter Mii costumes back in Ultimate as DLC when Joker from Persona 5 was dropped back in April. If the theory was correct, we would of gotten the Virtua Fighter Mii costumes along side the Tails & Knuckles Mii costumes.

>>16656375

>unironic Fortnitefag

Please don't tell me those even exist.

no wait nevermind its still there.

>>16656984

>Cubivore pig

That's the only logical explanation, that virgin's source was some dumb fucker who didn't recognize the source/failed to read the damn spirit's name, and it metastasized out of control from there. It's actually fascinating to see him still desperately shill for legocraft despite backtracking from

<"Guiz steve is playable!11one

<"I mean he's a spirit!"

<I-I mean…w-w-w're getting boss dlc, trust me!"

I sincerely hope he's just playing tard wrangler and leading the speds by the nose and testing how far he can push his own credibility.

>>16657006

>Villager and possibly MR G&W does the same exact thing.

Fuck off with this idiotic false equivalence.

Villager and G&W are both owned by Nintendo and they're both heavily stylized and important to Nintendo.

>>16657006

Because Steve is a garbage character - he's not even a character at all. He's nothing more than a blank template. Which is fine if it's a first party character but not if you're third party.

Steve getting in the game would be an insult to all the characters who have had more than two seconds of thought put into their designs. Steve was not designed by someone professional or even someone with talent. Notch was running late one morning and his mom designed him in the car ride over to a Mojang meeting. He is nothing but developer graphics that were meant to be replaced but never did. Such an amateurish design has no place in Smash whatsoever.

Also the movesets proposed for him are all garbage, it doesn't bring out anything interesting for him, at best he has the same tools as Link with a block placing mechanic. It's all paint-by-numbers bullshit, like "oh he does X in the game, that means he can also do X in Smash". Nothing but a copout in place of having a real character with an interesting mechanic or a good design.

>>16657095

>Implying a moveset can't be made for any hack-knee character

See Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt, Ice Climbers, Villager/Isabelle, ROB, and Piranha Plant. A moveset is so easy to make that they did it for a fucking dog that appears to laugh at you for missing a shot. Steve isn't going to be in Smash because he's a shit character.

>>16657026

Ok but people think that when Nintendo came to the third-party companies when negotiating about said third-party companies' Mii costumes being resold as DLC again, they could of gotten another character to be in the fighter pass but so far it's true for only two of the 4 companies so far. Capcom & Namco Bandai are still kinda up in the air because both of them helped out with the base game of Ultimate with Capcom giving out a shit ton of Megaman & Street Fighter content and Namco with helping the development of Ultimate. Now that's not to say both of them can't have another of their characters in the fighter pass (In fact, I would be pretty cool with another Capcom rep and a Namco rep because I'm pretty happy with the roster of Ultimate already), I'm just saying that just because Capcom's and/or Namco Bandai's Mii costumes didn't came back in the base game that doesn't make a strong case of a Capcom rep and Namco Bandai rep in the fighter pass. But hey, time will tell as they say.

>>16657736

To be fair, Cubivore is a extremely niche GameCube game that no one heard about and Minecraft is universally known by every human being on the planet so I wouldn't blame VergeBen's sources mistaking the Cubivore pig as the same pig from Minecraft, Although, VergeBen's source should of check what game the pig that he/she saw came from first before telling VergeBen because the Cubivore pig was just called pig in Ultimate.

>>16657081

that steve moveset is actually not as autistic as I thought it would be

>>16657736

Well at this point his source is pretty legitimate, so anything he says about smash should be taken into consideration. That said I don't think we'll get some new Smash leaks until either late summer or mid fall.

Pls ree at Nintendo for Trabiz Touchdoen. Soda51 said it can happen.

>>16659449

Suda is a hack jew.

>>16659464

Switching Beam Katanas

Beam Katana Battery

Wrestling Moves

High and Low Swings

>>16650277

Suicide nigger is a shitty forced meme.

>>16659470

Travis would be the all American Babyface to whatever that shitmon is called's heel. His moveset would be all about grappling, with the beam katana only coming out for specials and his FS would be turning in to an actual tiger to mail foes ala brawl giga Bowser.

>>16659464

In that case, put Adachi in the game instead.

>>16659464

You mean other than all his wrestling moves

>>16659753

Adachi is the worst villian in the three modern persona games. He doesn't do dick to anyone other than by complete accident, and he relies on a shitload of assumptions then acts like he orchestrated the whole thing. Hes a stupid edgy cunt with no real power or influence who is the middle layer in a shitty plot twist sandwich. P4 is the worst persona game other than 1, but everyone forgot about that game including Atlus

I estimate a Tales of Rep to be the next DLC character

Atlus/Sega got Joker

Squenix got DQ hero

Microsoft got BK due fan demand. Probably part of the deal is Minecraft Mii costumes also as DLC

Namco needs their 2nd rep besides Pac-man. It will most likely be Tales of Rep. They're gonna shill Tales of Arise and porting Tales of Games to the switch.

Last DLC for this fighter pass could be another Capcom Rep, a wild card nobody expected, or a high-demand request.

>>16659449

>Another anime swordfag

Eat shit and die

Also Duke Nukem for Smash

>>16659276

>Well at this point his source is pretty legitimate, so anything he says about smash should be taken into consideration.

Yes but VergeBen also have some sources that are fake & gay i.e. VergeBen said that the Star Fox racing game by Retro Studios is real despite every other insider, including the anglo who first put out that rumor, came to agreement that it was a hoax all along. But I still kinda agree with you about taking anything want VergeBen said into consideration, but I'm not going at 100% on his leaks & comments because he's sometime gets a few leaks wrong.

>That said I don't think we'll get some new Smash leaks until either late summer or mid fall.

Sound reasonable but I think we will hear more Smash leaks around a week or so before Banjo drops in the fall.

>>16660607

I would prefer that another Namco rep would be a Dark Souls character than a Tales of rep in my honest opinion because a Tales of rep would just be DQ Hero 2.0 and Namco could use a Dark Souls rep to shill out some Switch ports of Dark Souls 2 & Dark Souls 3 if Namco wants to.

>>16662970

True but Sakurai is a huge RPG nerd and he loves his anime swordfighters.

>>16659464

He can wrestle, his game is heavily based on parrying and guarding and he's got a shitton of non sword related special moves

You guys heard the latest smash drama?

apparently ally dated a 17 year old and tapped that twink boipussy.

It's legal in canada but he's being called a pedo on twitter by american fans. Was he a pedo or just got jailbaited?

>>16665363

Sounds like a literal faggot either way

>>16662983

Wait, are you implying that Dark Souls isn't a RPG series? That kind of series would be Soccerguy's liking. Also, the only way for a Tales of rep to make it to Smash Ultimate if the Tales of rep has a gimmick that's different from either DQ Hero or any other of the swordfighters in the roster. I can't really think of anything that would make the Tales of rep to stand out and make that rep to warrant to be in the fighter pass. A Dark Souls rep would be a lot more interesting in terms of Smash Bros gameplay i.e. stamina management or the Dark Souls rep would be the Lord of Cinder were Lord of Cinder can change to different movesets based on different builds in the Dark Souls series.

>>16664216

If Ridley can get in, anyone can. Plus, with game shitting the bed and damaging the pokemon brand samurai can always cut the unnecessary mons, which in all honesty is all of them but the rat and mewtwo. That'll open up enough slots for Lip to slip in, and Mach Rider as well for the hell of it.

>>16666618

goon

>>16655061

In a party game where the draw is playing as your favorite vidya character and beating the shit out of other classic famous vidya characters? That's the whole point of the fucking game.

>>16667155

It's not even the same plant you dunce. It's black with white spots

>>16650079

>Main and Secondary?

DDD, Simon and K.Rool

>Reached Elite Smash already and with who?

I Haven't done online yet.

>Recent tournament placing?

Didn't tried.

>Hopes for DLC and Balance Patches

The MC from Ever Oasis.

>Expectations for Hero and Banjo

Both look cool, but I if had to pick one I choose Banjo.

>>16666727

In all honesty, since the Piranha Plant in smash runs using the feet from Partners in Time instead of leafy rootfeet, and is smaller than Lip's plant, it is neither the plant of Waluigi or Lip.

>>16666608

>Wii fit trainer

I disagree, she's got an interesting playstyle and her game sold gangbusters. Characters like her are distinct enough to deserve a spot, it's bloat from garbage series that needs to go.

>Bowser jr the koopalings

Mario is the mascot, so his series gets the most reps by default. They did the smart thing and stuffed them all on one slot though instead of pulling an FE and street fighter.

I agree with all the others you listed, and I sincerely hope the shitmons get turned into glue next game. As for obscurity being a factor, that didn't stop Pit from being revived and as such Lip can make a comeback as well due to her game being more popular in Japan right now than either KI's were in America in the 90's and early millennium.

I still want Wariobake to direct a Panel de Pon revival game, I don't care if he's a fartfag the man knows PdP better than anyone

>>16650093

If you don't pay for online can you still download dlc?

>>16668287

The intersection is on the wrong side.

>>16668321

SFV, Mortal Kombat 11 and Ultimate is still there, so doubtful. Those games bring a ton of casuals.

>>16668287

Matt's just fucking with people, that's all there is to it.

lipfags and waluigifags are the worst

At least ridleyfags posted once and that's it

>>16669923

I know this is some weak-ass bait, but I was that faggot posting about Ridley for damn near ten years. Waluigifags are but mere infants compared to the heft of my autism.

>>16664216

What are the chances of obscure fighters getting in the game after Ultimate? I have a feeling that the next game will have a huge fundamental change to gameplay mechanics now Sakurai hates meleefags. What would the mechanic be and which obscure first party published character would fit that mechanic perfectly?

>>16671466

>>16671791

Crystallized asspain on a whole 'nother level, coming from smash bros

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>>16671052

How would they function as an AT though? I'm seeing the hen and chick dachorae running over the nearest target while the coons grapple the chump into a chain throw between the three of them.

>>16671904

>How would they function as an AT though?

Same as Metroid Fusion's ending, by using Samus's ship for themselves.

>>16671466

>Already 9 Super Mario characters (12 if you count Donkey Kong, Yoshi and Wario)

>not only a derivative of Luigi but also a derivative of Wario

>not easy to make a clone like Daisy, will have to have a completely unique moveset

The problem with Waluigi is that his shtick is already covered by other characters. He's the type of character that you would think be perfect to be someone else's clone but his proportions make it so even that is not easy.

>>16672127

I think Waluigi can only truly work if he's a medley of the Mario spinoffs and not just tennis/stomp man, as well as having really erratic and jarring movement physics compared to the other characters. Speaking of which, if you could put one element of Mario Party in his moveset, what would it be?

>>16672419

While I wouldn't mind Waluigi in, I dunno if "spinoff rep" is the best reason to put him in. He certainly has plenty of shit to pull from if they were to use everything he's been in, but you could also use the same argument for Toad

>if you could put one element of Mario Party in his moveset, what would it be?

Chance Time final smash, where it has a chance of either stealing the opponent's stock for himself or taking Waluigi's current stock away, defeating him instantly

>>16672464

>Chance Time

I thought of that too, but it should also be able to transfer %/HP amounts too.

>>16674099

>>16672464

If they gave him Chance Time as an FS people would get pissed it's not called "Waluigi Time"

It's up to you whether that's a bad thing or not, I'm just saying

>>16672419

Considering Meleeautists and no-fun-niggers hate anything even remotely random, you could never put anything even resembling a Mario Party element in there. It would either have to be an item, or Waluigi's Final Smash. Of course, it would have to be Chance Time.

>>16674164

>you could never put anything even resembling a Mario Party element in there

What about if he could use a skeleton key to break shields?

It's not going to happen, I don't want it to happen, but this is still one of the highest effort rumors I've seen yet.

Are there any other high-effort rumors I've missed out on?

>>16671466

They'll never ever be in Mario Kart.

Which is infinitely better than trash.

>>16675266

>klonoa

Please no. The unholy hellfire of furry trap posting would be insane.

>>16677989

Crash but they use the guy in the suit as his design and base his moveset off of him

His FS is just him screaming really loud into his megaphone

When's crazy pizza sword and gun man?

>>16678001

Fat lugia ha ha

>>16678001

Oh come on, don't tell me you wouldn't find it fucking hilarious too

So does anyone know when The Hero (are both words capitalised for that character?) is going to be released?

>>16675266

>>16675295

what the fuck is a klonoa

>>16675295

Klonoa would be late to the party. Fox, Falco, Wolf, Bowser, Isabelle, and every single Pokemon has already been lewded to death thanks to Smash with Banjo & Kazooie next on the list.

Are the first party adapters for GameCube controllers all $60+?

>>16679332

Joker's an SMT rep in the same way Donkey Kong, Yoshi and Wario are Mario reps. Sakurai's treating Persona like an entirely separate series (which it is). Also fuck you, if SMT gets any reps it should be similar to how they handled the Hero. Have it be SMT5's protag, with alts of previous series protagonists. Call them all collectively the Messiah.

>>16680490

What would their moves be, and what stage would best represent all of SMT? I can see them doing a scrolling stage that shos the highlights of each game before ending with a background battle between yhvh and Lucifer that creates a new loop.

>>16680490

Jack Frost will be a better Atlus rep overall.

>>16680717

Jack Frost would really work better as an AT or better yet, part of Messiah's moveset than as an individual fighter. There really wouldn't be much to him as a fighter, honestly.

>>16680681

Demon summoning, probably. I also like that stage idea.

>>16680748

>There really wouldn't be much to him as a fighter, honestly.

You're forgetting that along with certain iterations of Jack Frost being able to summon demons, he could also be used to reference Snowboard Kids.

>>16682445

Shit, that is a good point. Sakurai's autism would absolutely warrant a Snowboard Kids reference.

I still want playable Demi-Fiend over playable Jack Frost, but any SMT rep will do really. Except for TMS or Nanashi. Fuck Nanashi and fuck Apocalypse except for Dagda.

>>16668402

No shit nigger, it's a fucking window.

>>16682479

What if we get Stephen?

>>16677989

>>16677991

I'm okay with this, I really am

>>16675266

Don't know why, but I feel more and more so Crash is becoming increasingly likely.

>owned by Activision, no longer a Playstation exclusive

>used to be widely popular in Japan

>revived popularity with N.Sane Trilogy and Nitro Fueled

>everyone is here

As much as I would rather have Rayman, something is telling me Crash has a fairly good chance.

>>16685762

>we will never go back to the time where you could get CUHREYYYSYYY vidya cutscenes that involve girls in bikinis in a game for children.

>>16684445

My dick would me rock hard

They gave themselves 14 months to release 5 characters. We're currently 8 months through that 14 months period (~60% of the way through), and we only have 1 out of the 5 characters (20% of the characters). I don't know what the fuck they're doing/thinking, but they're considerably behind schedule right now. Even if Hero released tomorrow, they can't keep having 3+ month waits in between releases and get all 5 characters out by February 2020.

So what are they going to do? Assuming they actually keep their Feb 2020 deadline, they have to catch up somewhere. It won't be with character 5 because he's guaranteed to be kept until Feb. It's clearly not going to be with Hero, or we'd have him already. So it either has to be Banjo & Kazooie releasing right at the start of Fall (like late September), or they come out later in the fall, but then character 4 comes out extremely soon after them with hardly any gap.

How are they going to manage this and why have they been so goddamn slow with the DLC so far? Is this planned or is something going wrong behind the scenes?

>>16685953

Nintendo moved Joker up first just so they could announce him at that Game awards show even though obviously hardly any, if any at all, work had been done on him.

>>16685953

My guess is that each DLC fighter is going to be spaced out by about 2 months.

Joker mid-April

Hero late-July

Banjo-Kazooie mid-October

DLC4 early-December

DLC5 mid-February

>>16686016

What was so special about Joker that he should be moved up to be shown at the Game Awards? I'm sure any of the 5 would have been fine to start with.

>>16685953

They're probably working on more than just the fighter's pass characters. Data mining revealed data for Home Run Contest as well as Stage Builder months before Stage Builder was released. Not to mention that both Hero and Banjo had fully animated models so it's safe to assume that the other two characters are near complete right now. If Stage Builder and VR mode can come out of nowhere then I can see other modes coming down the line.

>>16686099

Probably didn't want to lead with their best card. If they announced Banjo first then no one would give a crap about Joker.

>>16686719

IDK man, they have a literal silhouette from an LCD screen as a character.

>>16686738

Not the same thing. Fuck off retard.

>>16686099

Persona won a goty from there the year before hand and judging from threads here when Joker was announced, the kind of faggots that like Persona are the same kind of faggots who care about goty awards

>>16686709

>They're probably working on more than just the fighter's pass characters.

They probably are, but that doesn't change the deadline they gave themselves for the 5 DLC characters. If their plan was "we'll make 5 DLC characters and some new modes" then that all should have been factored into the deadline they provided us.

>>16688023

I did not enjoy this webm.

Are you ready for Lloyd Ivring this christmas?

>>16688237

I feel like Lloyd's chances are completely reduced due to Hero getting in and basically being the defintive JRPG character

>>16688388

okay let me rephrase

I don't think we're getting Tales at all since Hero is the definitive JRPG character

>>16688578

Is that why we didn't get Isaac, too?

>>16688589

Isaac I feel like was due to lack of major fan demand coupled with the lack of a foreseeable future for the franchise. We did get a few ballot picks that people have been requested for over a decade but they were the ones that easily had the most fan backing

>>16688629

Corrin definitely shouldn't be in though.

>>16688388

>TWO swords

Two shields or go home.

>>16688635

You're right, but it's an example of how literally anyone can be added regardless of conventional means or logic. There's no rhyme or reason to these sorts of things, sometimes they just happen. We like to think we can come up with answers or reasons, like "fanbase" or "marketing" but then Piranha Plant is in.

>>16688629

My point is that Hero already encapsulates JRPGs to such a fine degree that adding in even more for what's meant to be the final two additions to Ultimate seems unnecessary and unlikely

Hell I feel like the only reason he wasn't included as part of Pac-Man's roulette taunt like Heihachi and the Prince is because a sprite of him doesn't readily exist and they were just throwing in what they had

>>16688657

But then they bothered to make a Mii costume for Lloyd. My point is that Lloyd would have a widely unique and differing moveset compared to the rest of the fighters due to the fact he uses two swords and is more acrobatic. Nevermind that JRPGs are already substantially represented, but he would represent a core part of Namco-Bandai and their "Tales Of" series while also bringing a new fighting style into Smash Bros.

Granted, I don't think he's likely, but I wouldn't say he's impossible or that The Hero is hurting his chances.

>>16688388

>Wanting more low T anime faggots

Kill yourself

>>16688744

Personally, DoomGuy and Rayman are among my top wanted now that Banjo-Kazooie is in.

>>16688780

Not the same thing. Fuck off retard.

>>16688752

Bamco has the rights to Dark Souls & Dragon Ball games. The Bamco rep could be Solaire or Goku.

>>16688789

Sakurai already deconfirmed Goku thanks to him being an anime character, but then again you could be shitposting for all I know.

>>16688795

Goku is inherantly a shitpost, Solaire is something I wish was and is an actual possibility.

>>16688805

>Seriously where did all of this hate for the game come from?

If you weren't phenomenally new, you'd know.

>>16688807

Been here since first exodus but besides that, give me an explanation I seriously want to know why everyone hates it.

Is it because its popular like fortnite?

Or is it just too bland and you personally dont like the game?

It still doesn't excuse the intense feelings people have for it on here.

>>16688805

>If a literal toy who was never actually featured as a vidya character can get in smash (R.O.B), then anyone who has even fucking touched a nintendo console once can get in, including steve and that whore lip.

Not the same thing, fuck off retard.

>>16688805

I've already given multiple reasons earlier in the thread.

see >>16659408

>While in the past or at the time of writing those I was neutral or "Wasn't Opposed" to Steve being included in Smash Bros, my stance since then has changed. Steve simply wouldn't make a good playable character. Nothing about his moves would be stylistic or easily recognizable from afar, exaggerate them too much and it would be awkward, it wouldn't be Minecraft. Yes, Game & Watch is stiff, but his moves have a good outline to them and are fairly stylized. This is important to Smash Bros and fighting games in general because you need to be able to instinctually recognize attacks as well as gauge a sense of weight, power, balance, etc.

>>16688832

>implying you wouldn't have done the same thing

Nigger, if you made some shitty amateur project in Java of all things and somebody offered two fucking billion to take the autism off your hands, you'd be a retard to not agree to that. Fuck selling out, dude's retired and won't have to work a day in his life. Even if every single one of his fans now hated him, what would it matter when you're set for life?

>>16688862

And he's having fun doing it. And if he stops having fun with it, he has the money to do whatever the fuck else he wants.

>>16688864

You are a weak and pathetic soul concerned only with having more in order to run from his inability to be more.

>>16688864

Looks more like he's just showing how based and redpilled he is. I hope what he likes doing is being fat. Seem like someone who made so much money off of crowdsourced code would want to be something other than fat and alone.

>>16688867

How much more would Notch have really been if he had kept working on Minecraft, and in whose eyes, exactly?

>>16688870

After that divorce, I wouldn't want anything to do with women either.

>>16688874

Women aren't the only company one could have. Did you just come here from reddit?

>>16688874

>How much more would Notch have really been if he had kept working on Minecraft

If he had completed the intended vision instead of selling out, he would have been someone of character with a good work to his name.

>in whose eyes, exactly?

This status-focused ending to your question cements my initial suspicion that you are indeed actually a woman. Tits or GTFO.

>>16688657

You're wrong.

They add whatever is popular and what Sakurai considers worthy of being in smash

DQ is in because it's worthy and popular

It doesn't take a "slot" of anything

>>16688877

A marriage is something you're likely to hear about, but most people don't tend to brag about how many friends they have. How do you know that he's "lonely" in that regard?

>>16688887

Nigger, my point is that the Minecraft community at large still respects him for what he did with the game and doesn't care/understands him selling the game. The only people upset with him are from imageboards and, in the grand scheme of things, irrelevant. In most people's eyes, he is someone of good character and the bigger majority of people bitching about him are upset because he said some "transphobic" things, not because he sold Minecraft.

You're pretending like "good character" is some objective measure, and even if it was, you're assuming that people give a shit. Most don't.

>>16688902

>You're pretending like "good character" is some objective measure

And you're pretending status among normalkikes is some objective measure. Like I said, tits or GTFO.

>>16688898

I didn't say it takes a slot, just that Hero has so much built into him that it feels like any other JRPG characters wouldn't be as adequate or interesting

>>16688907

So what makes your opinion so much more valid than the average normalfag, then?

>>16688910

Whip out your titties and I'll tell you.

>>16688902

>A marriage is something you're likely to hear about, but most people don't tend to brag about how many friends they have.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Are you giving me an excuse for your lack of insight? This isn't reddit. We don't "brag" about normalfag shit here. The only one who does that is robfag. I assume he died of aids or fucked off to reddit.

>How do you know that he's "lonely" in that regard?

In what "regard"? Are there multiple types of alone? He spends any amount of time on twitter for reasons other than money or political gain. People who have a decent life and aren't retarded don't use twitter for reasons other than political or monetary gain.

> In most people's eyes, he is someone of good character

So? What about his own eyes?

>You're pretending like "good character" is some objective measure

It is.

>and even if it was, you're assuming that people give a shit. Most don't.

I get why 6a96ab thinks you're a woman.

>>16688832

I see where you're coming from. MC is a symbol of how lazy half baked projects can have their soul ripped out and then sold to the drooling masses of kids despite all of that? And now you have a personal grude against it? What a shame.

Things will never be the same for you now will it?

>>16688898

It sucks how hero probably only managed to get into smash was because of DQ11 coming out on the switch, if it wasnt for that, DQ representation in smash would have gotten ignored again. Pretty damn sad considering characters like fucking PITT and Shulk made it in before DQ.

>>16688910

Come on anon! Tits or gtfo already.

TITTIES! TITTIES! TITTIES!

>>16688937

what do you have against pitt man

>>16688953

Pitt is from a rather unpopular game, let alone completely unknown to the west.

Yet DQ is the father of all fucking JRPGs yet DQ got fucking cucked out of smash 3 times for sure by Shulk, Cloud then Joker, maybe more I dont remember over 70 chars dude. A fucking SMT character made it in before DQ for fucks sake what an absolute travesty.

>>16688937

We're talking about kid icarus? Not really that unpopular nor unknown, considering the first one sold 1.76 million as launch nes title and had a sequel on the gameboy. Earthbound and fire emblem were even less known in the west and got in before Pit.

>>16689055

Worst case scenario the songs get added for a few SMRPG-themed spirit battles and that's all

Best case scenario, Geno gets in as a Mii Gunner echo or something bundled when you buy Hero

In a perfect scenario he'd be a free DLC fighter like Plant with his own moves, preferably with Mallow

>>16688981

Oh fuck they're re-releasing the Mii outfit!

>>16689078

With music?

>>16689081

They'll put in the trailer like the Chocobo theme that never actually made it into the game.

>>16689254

>using virgin as an insult

Back to cuckchan with you.

>>16689306

>I said it's not out of the realm of possibility that he will get in and that his looks would not be a limiting factor.

And you are completely wrong.

>>16688021

>that all should have been factored into the deadline they provided us

Stage Builder was supposed to be a surprise. If they're working on new modes then it's safe to assume that those are also supposed to be a surprise. According to Sakurai, the development on Ultimate began after they finished work on the final DLC for Smash 4. Lets be generous and call that February 3rd 2016, the day that Bayonetta released. Ultimate was announced on March 8th 2018. That's 25 months to develop Inkling, Ice Climbers, Pichu, Young Link, Snake, Pokemon Trainer (2 additional characters), Wolf, Ridley, Simon, King K. Rool, and Incineroar. That's 12 new characters if you exclude 7 new echo fighters, 6 reworked characters, World of Light, Spirits, Stages (4 brand new and 29 upscaled from the 3DS version), classic mode, and a new UI. It's evident that they can develop a character in under a month and the extended deadline they gave themselves is padding for side projects.

>>16688981

>>16689055

If Banjo can get into Smash then Geno is still on the table. The only characters I can see that won't make it into Smash at this point would be Sony reps, PC exclusives, IPs that haven't been on a Nintendo platform, and Indie games. And I'm not entirely sold on the latter.

brawl minus for switch when?

>>16689940

Geno is a plot point character and as important to Super Mario RPG's story as Peach and Bowser. He'd fall into the secondary protag category simply because he doesn't have the backing of various games and a existing fan base behind him.

>I guess he's still possible since it all boils down to whether a character is relevant or popular

Kind of sort of. Characters like Wii Fit Trainer and Duck Hunt made it into the game (and I guess Ice Climbers to a lesser extent) simply because the developers felt that they would be shocking for players to see them as a playable fighter. It's hard to say whether or no Geno's following is legit or fair weathered since the internet is a cesspool of faggots hopping onto bandwagons to seem relevant and "hip". Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that Sakurai is also a Geno fan and included him as a costume in Smash 4 because of fan demand.

>Comparing anything to Waluigi

Please, we're trying to discuss characters with an actual chance here.

Since we have The Hero I don't think we'll get Geno outside of a Mii costume again at best.

>>16688752

Do people actually want Heihachi or do they just think its likely because he was being considered for 4? He seems like an incredibly boring pick to me. Honestly the fact that he was considered for 4 over Pac Man shows how retarded sakurai is.

>>16688780

>stevefags are this delusional

I thought Banjo had finally killed them all.

>>16689997

Geno was just the original reddit meme pick before they all moved onto Waluigi. At least Waluigi has some character and not just 'he can do max damage in this old JRPG'

>>16688981

Geno is the last highly demanded character since melee/brawl

It's gonna be Yuri Lowell/Lloyd Irving

The last DLC is gonna be a Wild Card

>>16690644

Checked, and what does the Agu in agumon's name actually mean?

>>16690644

Addendum: I've often heard that digimon is the sonic to pokemon's mario, but I personally fail to see the connection. Yes, the former is a rival series that does touch upon darker themes and utilizes gimmicks at times, but the quality of the series blows anything sega's done with the blue rat out of the water. Agufag, what is your take on this assumption that anons have put forth?

>>16691370

The people here paying for Nintendo Online are the people ruining the game industry

>>16690403

>At least Waluigi has some character

He's about as much of a character as Piranha Plant. Being well known or having character doesn't seem to be a factor anymore. If there were an assist trophy fighter pass then maybe, but there's no way he's a fighter this time around. If there was an assist trophy pass then I'd prefer Knuckles, Alucard, Zero, Bomberman, and Dillon over Waluigi anyways. Guile, Krystal, Ghirahim, Spring Man, and Takamaru are also good picks.

>>16692121

>angela anaconda

99% sure that that was just added to the English dub of the Digimon Movie, and not included in the original. The English version of the movie chopped it up, heavily edited it, lowered its' runtime by almost an hour, and otherwise turned it into a mockery. So no, it's not canon.

Fuck off, (((anti-digimon))) niggerkike.

>>16690431

Geno is the Holy Grail of Smash requests. It would truly be an event if by some miracle he got in.

>>16705345

I'll never forget event 51

>>16690403

>waluigi

>character

Waaaah xD

>>16705345

It's a shame really.

>>16712232

Ultimate is much better than Brawl and WiiU. That said it has much less content than the previous two games. World of Light should be renamed World of Shit. Spirits are a shitty concept, and all of the potential newcomers other than K Rool, Ridley, Inkling, Simon, Isabelle and Incineroar are either Mii costumes or Assist Trophies. Basically get it cheap if you have a Switch, or wait for the next game if it has a new lead developer.

>>16712242

Thanks anon.

>>16712280

It's not as good as Melee or Project M, and there's an 8 frame lag which is really off putting. Although casually the game is pretty fun.

>>16712285

smash is supposed to be a casual game though

>>16712441

>smash is supposed to be a casual game though

yes, you can tell just by the default options.

·All Stages with their gimmicks allowed

·All items on (and never implementing an indicator for where an item will spawn shortly)

·Score for the default Time battles is hidden.

>>16712322

>esports cancer

I never gave a single fuck about esport cancer and its nigger faggot community, and people who do should be ashamed of themselves.

>>16657046

>Steve himself is a very bland and uninteresting character who is meant to fill as a blank canvas for the player to insert themselves into.

No, he's meant to be a blank canvas for the developer to fill in.

You didn't hear it from me, but the last DLC characters are Phoenix Wright and Nightmare.

>>16713777

>Meme trash

>Edgiest swordfag

The days of good characters are long gone.

>>16713817

Fuck off cancer you already ruined MVC3 with this shitty character who can't fight. He doesn't need to be in another game.

>>16713933

That's more MvC Infinite

>>16713777

>yet another capcom character

they already have 3, fuck off

Third-party will forever be a mistake.

>>16650079

>>Main and Secondary?

<Link and Lucario

>>Reached Elite Smash already and with who?

<N/A yet.

>>Recent tournament placing?

<N/A

>>Hopes for DLC and Balance Patches

<make a Baten Kaitos character join, otherwise I have no other DLC hopes beyond Home Run Contest, Smash Run, and Board the Platforms returns

>>Expectations for Hero and Banjo

<to not suck

>>16713849

MvC wasn't ruined by corporate pushing for the MCU and cutting the x-men off the franchise, but by one of the best characters to be added in the franchise. Sure.

>>16715375

MvC3 is not MvCi

>>16712232

>Is it fun?

Yeah, it's the most fun i have with the series since Melee. The gameplay is more dynamic than Brawl or 4 which is pretty good.

>>16713777

>Soul Calibur over Dark Souls

I can't see it