/v/ - Video Games

Sadly, no, nothing comes close to be as smooth and fun as cave story. It's something about the physics and

You could play Kero Blaster, by the same dude. If you buy it, get it on Playism because you get a DRM free copy and a steam key, and pixel gets a better cut.

Or just pirate it

Or try pink hour/heaven which are free.

>>16644944

Sadly nothing except Kero Blaster, I miss Pixel is he still working on games? What happened to Cave Story 2?

>>16645096

>What happened to Cave Story 2?

Nicalis happened

Hollow Knight is pretty damn good.

Hollow Knight.

Thats it.

>>16645128

>he couldn't even make it through Grasstown

>>16645223

The gameplay revolves around you jumping and shooting... but it's done very well, the jumping feels good, hit boxes are good, the spritework is great and the soundtrack is fantastic. Plenty of bosses and challenge, you are doing a disservice to yourself by not giving it a fair shake.

Curly and Toroko are cute as well damn

>>16644944

>>16645029

>Are there good platform shooter hybrids?

>NO

What?

Metal Slug 3

Mystic Warriors

Sunset Riders

Touhou Luna Nights

Blast Master Zero

Azure Striker Gunvolt 1 & 2

Alien Soldiers - Gunstar Heroes

etc

Axiom Verge also comes to mind, if you like pixel-shite art.

> I’m about to beat it and it’s the first game in a while that I’ll be sad to finish.

What? I only played it for 10minutes so I don't know the game. But aren't these platform shooters supposed to have lots of replay value? Are you playing for the story like a jrpg??

>>16645085

>>16645096

That doesn’t look too bad

>>16645111

>>16645173

Played it

>>16645610

I already got the bad ending and I’m about to get the good ending (which requires 100%ing the game). I’ll probably replay it in the future, but it still sucks I’m about to finish a game I liked so much.

I only played the original version. Aside from the graphics, is worth playing the remakes?

>>16645619

In CS+ the dev made the stupidest decision to tie costume to difficulty. So if you want to play hard or easy, you'll be stuck with an ugly outfit.

>>16645620

>How long does it take to beat?

Howlongtobeat says about 7 hours. I don't remember how long it took me originally, but the site tends to be mostly accurate.

https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=1616

>>16645595

Ah ok. Well I hope you give it another try in the future anon. It's not often someone spends 5 years making a polished game and drops it for free on the internet

>>16645619

Not really no, most of the "new features" were already existing mods.

>>16645619

Just don’t play the 3ds version. I started with that game and the move to 3d is so bad it destroys the atmosphere and hides some of the enemies with some poorly places camera angles.

>>16645630

Saved. Gonna look through them tomorrow.

>>16645631

>7 hours

I’m surprised. It felt even shorter than that for better and worse.

It's not of the same quality but I really enjoyed Pharaoh Rebirth+ as much as I did cave story.

>>16645839

Shit, hit reply too soon.

>Play an archeologist who was cursed by a pharoah to be a furry

>Titanium bunny ears used to kill everything

>Get cursed again to die in 7 days unless you find holy grails

>Really good sprite work and music

>Gameplay is pretty fun, with a lot of movement options, a perfect guard system, lots of subweapons(including your very own stand and a fighting game input super that wipes everything on screen, and a second playable character who was the second archeologist to be cursed into becoming a scalie, he's a kung fu turtle who can throw his shell which bounces around the screen if you manipulate it well enough)

>7 big levels with lots of hidden items and abilities that you must revisit to obtain

>Bosses give you additional items if you no-damage them

>a boss rush level at the end that you get a cool subweapon for if you beat in a certain timelimit

>an extra level with a really good ost, very intense platforming challenges and a cool two phase boss fight

>a super secret boss you find for 100% completion, who has your same abilities including the screen wipe and just guard, and is an insanely fun and challenging fight

>is a difficult game altogether unlike their later games

Try it. Wait a bit until I can find a DL if you want to pirate

>>16645630

>still not Vacant Ark or Iwanaga, games that came out around the same time as Cave Story and are far superior mechanically

>crap like Iji and MUGEN left in

Shit lists, kill yourself.

La-Mulana

>>16645888

Not really that similar to Cave Story, but definitely a far superior game.

>>16645591

I also found the game to be pretty boring, the jump feels way too floaty for my tastes and the gun level ups make the game easy as fuck but a gun at low level just makes the game grindy. I'm currently at the secret cave after the possessed core and only now is the game starting to be interesting I don't blame anon for dropping it so early.

>>16646069

Started it plenty of times but never cared enough to finish it. I've had more fun with Metal Slug 3 and that chink ripoff of Metal Slug than Cave Story.

>>16646117

Metroid

Super Metroid

Myst

Riven

>>16646149

>He couldn't beat Ballos.

Dude getting to him is the hard part. Afterwards you can just jump on his eyelid and magdump all of your rockets into his bra-

>I let curly die

>He can't beat the undead core

Holy shit, go play Gone Home or Depression Quest or something.

>>16646236

Play the original, it has better music and controls.

>>16646266

Axiom Verge is a DRM-crippled pile of shit.

>>16645610

>Gunvolt 1

I heartily recommend against it. The gameplay style of GV is way too defensive for a megaman game and it's just not particularly fun. 2 lets you play as dash master Humanity's greatest badass Copen so I'd recommend that.

>>16646361

Underrated post.

>>16646312

And comfy MSX graphics too.

>>16646361

Did someone say memes?

Yes this is an entire optional dungeon created from the asshurt the devs had from people complaining about the meme posters.

Guacamelee has some really nice optional challenge dungeons/platforming sections, but otherwise it's not particularly worth playing.

>>16644944

Cave Story is one of my all time favorites. I can't really think something that captures the same thing I feel for it. There is something unique about crazy projects made by one person that I can't describe.

>>16646361

SotN added mechanics like gear which significantly increase the attack capabilities of the player since each weapon can have its own individual reach/speed/hitbox and in some cases special mechanics. Magic and special attacks provide a huge increase in available options and player customization. Super Metroid only has a handful of beams and missiles which function just like stronger beams, bombs which are weak and pointless against the vast majority of enemies, super bombs which are less a weapon and more a very limited instant win button against most things, and the late game screw attack that makes anything that isn't a boss onto a joke. Extremely situational shit like shine sparking doesn't count. In comparison, SotN and its sequels have far more offensive variety. Gear also provides accessories, further allowing player customization and puzzle potential (like the clock room). Teleportation rooms are a staple of the genre today. You're full of shit because you're ignoring the things that SotN added to the formula that commonly appear in Metroidvanias today. And if we don't count improvements and changes to the formula, then Super Metroid has nothing to do with that discussion to begin with; it's just an evolution of the original Metroid.

Yeah OP there's tons. Kero Blaster is better than Cave Story as a start but from there check out the assault suit series, leynos 1 & 2, valken, magical pop'n, gunstar heroes, dynamite headdy, alisia dragoon, blaster master, youkai buster ruka, all the mega man games basically, alien soldier, legendary axe, shock man, basically all the contras, midnight resistance, Toki, Pulseman, Dragon Egg, the Valis games once you get tired of run & shoot platformers, try exploration ones too like the monster world/wonder boy/monster boy series which are basically shantae games but good, the ganbare goemon games almost all of which are best in class platformers.

Cave Story is a great game but it has the burden of being a PC game, and being a PC game it's many PC gamers first experience with something like it. They often see there's almost nothing else talked about along side it so they assume it's the only thing quite like it. Good news is, it's got more in common with the X68000 than the PC as that is where it's inspiration lies. It's basically a console game, and there's hundreds of games as good or even better than it on consoles for you to check out.

>>16646361

metroid like is also retarded, just call them what they are in real words - exploration platformer. That's what the japanese call them and it works far better than the word soup the west thought up.

>>16645620

I don't normally replay games right away, but I played Cave Story thrice immediately. It's the type of game that goes quickly once you beat it once and there's several things (which can be fairly unintuitive without a guide) you can change in the play through for different results. They aren't explicit dialogue choices or anything, you have to figure it out yourself.

>>16646490

>exploration platformer.

>That's what the japanese call them

I never knew that. That's incredibly reasonable.

>>16645085

>>16645096

Kero Blaster is pretty shit in comparison. It's not a bad little game but it's not something I would go around recommending to people. It's one of those things you play once and it's neat and then you never think about it again.

>>16646266

>there is an entire subgenre of garbage called Metroidvania

>>16656135

>I disagree with something in your post

Thanks for your input.

>>16646117

Not even La Mulana 2 compares anywhere close to it.

I just accepted that I'll never have as much fun with a singleplayer game again.

>>16656138

>Calls an entire subgenre trash and gives no explanation

>Expects an explanation for his shit taste

>>16656140

Just have low expectations and you might be surprised. Give Bloodstained Curse of the Moon a try.

>>16656144

If you look carefully you can see I said more than 1 thing in my post.

You can count the amount of actually good "metroidvanias" with one hand. I like the "genre" but almost every single one I try is either complete shit or copypastes metroid or castlevania with 0 originality, often both.

>>16656144

>Bloodstained Curse of the Moon

That's the 2D one isn't it? It looked pretty good even though it seems to be a Ninja Gaiden clone skinned as a Classicvania rather than a proper Classicvania. Not that I have a problem with NG. Far from it.

Pharaoh Rebirth

>>16656311

>Pharaoh's Curse

Not a Metroidvania. It's primitive dogshit. You don't even get new powers or upgrades. All you do is collect "treasure" and "keys". You might as well call A Boy and His Blob a metroidvania. Not even gonna look at the others, I'm sure they're similarly garbage.

>>16646266

You technically do need to grind in classicvanias, in super castlevania IV to be exact, your whip is dogshit without upgrades.

>only a few instances were considered unfair

Those few instances however are worse than any bullshit a metroidvania can throw at you: medusa heads, double headed dragon statues and death.

>>16656311

None of those games are quintessentially like Metroid. Metroid's key innovation was using action abilities like keys to access new areas.

>>16644944

>I’m about to beat it

Did you get the best ending though? You might not be finished with it as soon as you thought.

>>16657705

That's not quite what I was meaning.

>>16644944

Did you beat ballos?

>>16656131

>Kero Blaster

>one of those things you play once and it's neat and then you never think about it again

That's like stopping at Nier's first ending, you stupid faggot.

>>16659229

I don't remember what the second playthrough of Kero got you, I think your frog gets a new color and it's harder, but what else?

>>16646149

on the final phase, you touch the ground spies for 3 damage and some invulnerability, then jump inside his eyes and unload all missiles

>>16646236

Pen and paper, write down notes from the talismans and possible points of interest.

>>16659280

>talismans

Tablets.

>>16656311

Some things I never heard:

>Ballon Fight is joust clone.

>Starfox is a Space Harrier clone.

>Mother is a Dragon Quest clone.

>Smash Bros is an Outfoxies clone.

>Dr Mario and Panel de pon are tetris clones.

>Pokemon is a Megami Tensei clone.

>Golden eye and Perfect Dark are Doom clones.

Yet I keep hearing about "metroid clones" and "Zelda clones", even though those weren't even the first games in their respective genres…

>>16659229

If you're going to make me play through the same game multiple times then it's not a good game. I lost interest somewhere halfway through the new game+ or whatever it is.

>>16659321

>Starfox is a Space Harrier clone.

It's not because it actually brought to the table its own innovations. There are some clear and obvious Space Harrier clones though, including After Burner, Galaxy Force, Galactic Attack, and Panorama Cotton.

As for Metroid, see

>>16658789

It absolutely was a genre-defining game.

>>16646490

That new Touhou Luna Nights game refers to itself as "Search Action" and I think that fits perfectly. Maybe slap Platformer at the end and we can call them SAPs.

>>16668056

If you make a mediocre Search Action Platformer, is it a poor sap?

>>16646163

>Also I meant something that had the whole package that La-Mulana has both the puzzles and the exploring along with having a similar theme of ancient civilizations before our on and stuff. You know sort of the same way that Illusion of Gaia is too. I know there have to more games out there like this. There can't only be just 2 or 3 of them in over 40 plus years of making vidya.

>ask for games similar to La-mulana(ie, games that play the same)

>NO, I WANT GAMES OF THE SAME THEME!!!

You should be clearer in the future then, the majority of people asking for games like X typically want a game that PLAYS like X, not just one that shares the general theme or setting. We can't read your mind through a post to know what you meant, you need to tell us. Tombs & Treasure(NES) might be to your tastes.

>>16673581

>this level of illiteracy

He asks for something similar in gameplay and theme. You know. Like La-Mulana. Not like La-Mulana except the theme, or La-Mulana except the gameplay. Just like.

>>16673586

Most people will say "I'm looking for a game that takes place in the same setting" or something similar if that is what they want. Hence why people recommend SotN or Super Metroid when people ask for games like La-mulana, and not Illusion of Gaia.

>>16657238

How are you destroying the monster girls?

>>16668056

Why was Luna Nights so disappointing? It's just too easy especially with Snail Time being infinitely more useful than time stop, and giving blue graze instead of red graze too.

>>16656129

Anon all you needed to do to divine that was to read the dev's twitter. He's a grade A faggot

The tipping point where I no longer wanted anything to do with that game and stopped following it's development was when he tweeted nothing about the london attacks but a day later retweeted some sandnigger checkmark crying about 2 muslims beink killed outside 2 mosques in 2 different countried. He also changed a construction item from "Trigger" to "R.C. Detonator" or something because a tranny in the comments complained.

>>16644944

Trails of Cold Steel

Trails in the Sky

Two of the best JRPG series of all time

Also, Undertale has a special something that you don't see that often. /v/ just has trouble appreciating objectively good games.

>>16674372

Undertale's issue for me is that it feels like a themepark coaster. You go on it once and you go "ooh" and "aah" at all the quirky shit but once you're bored or finished you really don't want to give it another shot.

>>16674385

I fucking loved that game but this is one of the games biggest issues.

FAR too linear with very few side areas.

I wonder how toby feels knowing he's made some of the most lewdable characters in recent history though?

>>16644944

Disgaea 1

The story, the music, the gameplay all the little tricks in how to break it are great.

>inb4 but it takes a gajillion hours to beat it

Let me disprove that notion right now as someone who 100%'ed Disgaea 1 in under 80 hours that can fuck right off, it just takes some planning for hard fights instead of throwing your stats against their stats.

Hell heres a free tip enemies try to attack your weakest unit first no matter what, this works on all enemies including the hardest boss in the game so you can bring out units that are level one and they will rush over there as long as they are in range.

If its not your thing another Tactical game id go with is Front Mission 3 hard to beat perfection.

>>16674385

The humor started to wear it's welcome on me, I dropped the game entirely around the Core and I never wanted to go back, so I agree with your sentiment about it being a coaster.

>>16674357

>He also changed a construction item from "Trigger" to "R.C. Detonator" or something because a tranny in the comments complained

Holy shit. I really really want to like the game, and even though I finished it, even though the art is cute and the women are nice despite best girl being a lesbian, the game simply feels off. It's forgettable.

>>16674439

Yeah, it really fucking sucks ass when shit like that happens

I had a lot of fun with the demo too but even before the twitter shit it had this wierd tone where I could tell it was gonna go somewhere I wouldn't like.

ps. Did he remove the secret house in the first town with the girlie pictures in the bg? Extra faggot points if that happened.

>>16656129

He wasn't wrong about SOTN ripping off metroid. No need to sperg out.

>>16674459

>>16674439

Hard to believe the same guy made Noitu Love 2.

The Momodora series should be on your radar, OP. They're not perfect, but I liked them for what they were; I'd recommend starting with Momodora 4 since it's a metroidvania (the term "search action" will never catch on because it's equally stupid but less known) whereas Momodora 3 is a more linear arcade-style game. The games have almost no story and share almost nothing, so playing in release order doesn't particularly matter.

Momodora 4:

>play as a young girl wielding a leaf sent to cure a queen's curse and banish evil from the land yadda yadda

>arrive at the not!Bloodborne city to discover things are even worse than you expected and most people are dead or ghosts

>meet some cute girl NPCs who provide a little information

>explore the world at your own pace and in whatever order you want

That's really the gist of the hook. The game plays (and I know this'll sound stupid, but it works) like a 2D Dark Souls right down to the roll cancelling and Estus flasks. Sprite art could be higher resolution, but it's at least fluid to compensate for the lack of detail. It's certainly better than the pixelshit you see in things like Risk of Rain or Super Time Force.

My only word of advice is not to play on hard mode because the difficulty modes actually change the gameplay, and anything above normal is a slog due to increased enemy damage, reduce player health, and lessened healing item effectiveness.

>>16645839

>>16645852

I strongly second this game. Highlight of 2016.

>>16677476

momodora are the biggest 4/10 games with a following I can think of, next to shantae.

>>16644944

>>16645610

>good platform/shooter hybrids

Here's an answer I'm surprised I haven't heard: the Mega Man Zero games.

My favorite things about Cave Story were:

-extremely fun hybrid of shooter/slasher and platformer

-captivating story and worldbuilding that are surprisingly 'mature', serious and melancholy for a platform game

-amazing music and atmosphere over very long and patient level design

The Zero/ZX games have all of this stuff, which is why I'd recommend them. they're a bit more dialogue heavy and have a few more RPG mechanics but still great stuff through and through. Not "metroidvania" or exploration-based, but Cave Story is pretty linear too, so I'd consider Metroid style stuff to be in a different category altogether.

>>16694981

The problem is OP asked for good ones. The Mega Man Zero games have bad mechanics and bad level design.

>>16645610

Most if not none of them are quire similar to Cave Story. Cave Story does have excepllent exploration, mobility and gunplay, having to use juns as jet packs to jump further, for example. You can't really do that in Metal Slug, not to mention you can only move forward.

>>16657747

CALL ON MEEEE

>>16695228

No it doesn't. The first one is pretty barebones, but by 3 most problems are solved.

I wonder how hard it is to make a game like Cave Story now of days

Here is a

>>16695228 (You) for your efforts, now get the fuck out

>>16725219

Mega Man Zero sucks.

>>16725674

Ur mom sucks.