/v/ - Video Games

I hope Astral Chain kicks someone in the ass to realize a cuhrayzee JoJo game can work. Just dont let Araki approve of it being another Part 3 adaptation.

>>16593613

I'd love to see jojo games in genres besides just fighting.

>>16593617

Even a point-and-click adventure game would be good. But yes, Araki himself looks like he'd fuck things up more than help these days, so an original story is a dicey proposition.

I hate how huge Jojo has gotten now, the community has been completely taken over by the ironic weeb types who post in trap discords.

>>16593638

That still doesn't make the ending of part 3 and subsequently TWOH not retarded and a let down.

>>16593663

First thing that comes to mind is tusk act 4 and D4C working together in a way besides direct combat to find a way to manipulate dimensions.

>>16593845

Let's talk about how the seven page muda was a let down compared to the manga.

It wasn't BAD but it certainly felt gimped.

>>16593860

No matter how much people hate it. That WRYYYYY made up for all the problems it had.

>>16593865

Nigger if it's that hard for you then just main a character until you can do all of their combos easily

>>16593811

JoJo would work really well in the hands of Platinum even if its just part 2

>>16593875

Wryyy was definitely great, it's just the other parts that were "okay" , i still think steely dans anime beatdown has more oomf.

>>16593643

I think the end of Part 3 would've worked better if Jotaro had been hinted at being able to instinctively use the most basic form of hamon without training when he's very focused on fighting without realizing it, being the descendant of three extraordinarily talented users and all (Jonathan, Lisa Lisa, and Joseph). The idea would've been pretty solid, since Jonathan was unconsciously using it as soon as he learned it, and Joseph inherited that talent and was very skilled in its usage at a young age. Would be a bit less of an asspull than Dio having a bad leg that explodes on contact.

>>16593970

I think the end would've been better if they wouldve hinted that potato had some kind of time stopping instead of the bullshit "he has super speed" and then saying "he has time stop" at the last 2 episodes

>>16593970

Dio's leg being fucked was hinted at before hand IIRC, jotaro having sudden time stop just was "nu uh i can stop time too"

>>16593811

>the only two that worked right are a fighting game and a fan made RPG

Because the fighting game was made by Capcom and at the time Capcom was your go to and the fan game was made by someone extremely dedicated to get it right. ASB is ass as a fighting game and EoH fell right into Bamco's shitty arena fighter pit along with most anime games under them. The SNES JoJo RPG was shit. Golden Wind was passable. The Phantom Blood beat em up was good in combat but exceedingly repetitive. Then it's just a bunch of mobile shit and a fucking battle Royale of all things. With how JoJo is as a basic concept with stands, there can be so much more. Hell even just Hamon has a ton of potential for games but we get to ride in mediocrity.

>>16594011

>golden wind was passable

That game was fucking awful man.

>>16594014

Not really.

The only problem I had with the game was that it cut alot of battles from the manga so it felt really short

I want a Oregon Trail style adaptation of Steel Ball Run

>>16593819

That would have been awesome, but unfortunately Valentine had to fucking die offscreen instead of contributing anything of worth.

>>16594195

which game

>>16594210

>if you had something like Echoes Act 3 with his weight ability I don't how you give that feedback to the player since there is nothing in the real world limiting your movement.

I suppose that if you're weighed down to the point where you're not completely stuck but are still somewhat able to move, you could make it so that you have to give 3 times the effort to complete one movement, like 3 punches to actually complete a single punch, but that'd be dumb. Maybe you should just make an original stand story with its own characters and stands built around the gameplay you want.

>>16593811

>and a fan made RPG

anon, the fuck do you mean by this? is there some fan made jojo rpg that came out that's actually fucking good that i don't know about? are you referring to the SNES RPG? i thought that was made by actual developers

>>16594071

>>16594037

I'm going to have to just disagree, the controls were awful on a whole nother level to me

coming from my mind

Also it has an english patch.

>>16594342

>is there some fan made jojo rpg that came out that's actually fucking good that i don't know about?

How have you not heard of 7th stand user?

>>16594311

HFtF on fightcade

This guy has a good point.

>>16594495

Alright, brother.

>>16593564

Post your part rankings, mine's:

Part 4>Part 8>Part 6>Part 3>Part 2>Part 5>Part 1>Part 7

To be clear, I don't think that part 7 is a bad manga, the art is absolutely gorgeous and the pacing is very well done, it has some neat fights but I just didn't enjoy it in the slightest. Johnny and Gyro have zero chemistry and Gyro's jokes make no sense which I really feel like is the translation's fault. I also think that Jesus is very underutilized, all he ever does is help Johnny for a bit and then he disappears forever. The only character I actually liked was Lucy because she and her "husband" were the only likable people in the entire manga.

>>16594195

JasiJoestar?

>>16594537

Jolyne is one of the best JoJo's and Pucci, even though Made in Heaven is an absolutely retarded plan, is a great villain. I hate how they retconned Dio's evilness though.

>>16594532

>God Tier

Part Seven, Part Four

Good Tier

Part Five, Part Two

>Dio tier (the Dio Trilogy) Aka, alright tier

Part One, Part Three, Part Six

>”Where’s the fucking villain, Araki?” Tier

Part Eight.

>>16594537

nomanga feminists on normie sites have been insisting that part 6 was actually good all along ever since they started watching it around the end of DiU's anime.

>>16594681

These are the same people who say Anasui is trans because Araki showed him as a woman for one panel before his editor he changed his mind.

>>16594537

I think 6 has a great villain and most surprising and enjoyable ending, Kefka-like. Other than that it has the same problem as 5, it's just too much going on too fast and characters are complete idiots 99% of the time expect for a asspulls to win a fight.

>>16594679

I completely agree with this list

>>16594775

The ending is not enjoyable because it shouldn't have happened, jotaro is a fucking retard who sacrificed all of humanity for his daughter.

>>16594550

Pucci is great, But jolyne is just plain unlikable at some points.

>>16594828

Could Jotaro have lifted Jolyne out of the way of the knives while placing Pucci in the spot Jolyne was?

>>16594844

No, but letting your daughter live so the rest of humanity is fucked is just selfish.

>>16594828

>The ending is not enjoyable because it shouldn't have happened,

But all of Part 6 didn't happen :^).

>>16594912

Exactly - Jotaro didn't know he could do it, but it was hinted at pretty early on that Star Platinum had some kind of hidden ability other than "punch things really hard and fast".

That being said, was it ever confirmed that The World's power is actually to just inherit all of the Joestar's stand abilities? Jotaro's time stop, Joseph's spirit photography/remote viewing, Holly's stand which is probably how DIO could create those mind control bud things

>>16593564

Ok. The RPG fan game is really good.

I want phantom blood and battle tendency turned into character action games.

>>16594912

Guys please, stop rationalizing that bullshit.

Am i the only one here who doesn't want parts 7-8 to be animated so that animeonlys can stick with their everyone dies ending of part 6 and hopefully fuck off

V from DMC5 showed that an action game with stands can work. Perhaps something like you carry the turtle from part 5 around and switch users when you want to? Otherwise it'd be a game with a special snowflake stand user than can use all of the stands.

>>16595182

And now Astral Chain is coming out, and it's looking pretty good.

Too bad it's going to be stuck on the switch. Say goodbye to a constant 60 fps.

>>16595157

>not wanting 7 animated for such a petty reason

Sad little existence.

>>16595309

I'd imagine Platinum will get it to 60FPS at the cost of graphics. It is a shame though that they are basically a Nintendo dev now.

>>16595296

Might check this out.

>>16595429

Did Bayo2 ran at a constant 60? I'd imagine it to dip somewhere around the 40-50 in some of the more demanding stages. I think it's going to be the same for Astral Chain.

It's funny that Chaos Legion gets mentioned because Astral Chain takes quite a bit of inspiration from it as well.

>>16595456

One of the lamest deaths in the entire series, even Avdol was better.

>>16595456

Where he fuck can I read jojolion?

>>16595619

>the

>>16594532

I only liked the first three parts and SBR. Waiting for Jojolion to finish before I read any of it.

>>16593629

>JoJo point-and-click adventure game

You know, this actually sounds surprisingly tempting.

>>16596004

It really feels like araki doesn't know what to do with the part and only continues it because of "Hey guys remember part4?!"

>>16596004

Everything was just OK up until Vitamin C. Then it picked up a little bit because that was genuinely a well written are, then it all came tumbling down into a garbage fire.

>>16596015

>>16596084

It's cause that geriatric dumbass forgot it was supposed to be a mystery novel and just gave the answer halfway through via muh flashbacks, so he then wrote himself into the corner and now Holly has cancer and we must save her because otherwise Gappy has fuckall to do.

>>16595456

rip best girl

>>16597138

I'm doing the exact same thing and I do that with every show. I prefer to marathon shows so the little details I would have completely forgotten about are fresh in my mind, I pick up on all kinds of foreshadowing and such that everyone else completely missed or only picked up if they rewatched it (rewatching tv shows is a huge waste of time unless it was only 1 season or some serious 10/10 God Tier stuff).

>>16593564

When jojo-like rpg where you need to figure enemy stands

>>16597177

>10/10 god tier stuff

So, One Piece then

>>16597264

May as well post this shitpost since we've got fans of both parties in here

>>16597138

>Enya is gone

But she's still alive?

>>16597286

What about a cuhrazyee bug fighting game set in the JoJo universe?

>>16597316

>cuhrazyee bug fighting game

A game where you play as a bug that styles on enemies, or DMC4's LDK mode with EDF enemies?

>>16597329

A 1v1 arena beetle character action game with stand powers like the fight in part 8.

>>16597339

Well then you should've said beetles in the first place, you silly bitch. Bamco would probably make a mobile game out of it.

>>16596004

>Enjoy reading the worst and most directionless jojo part in the entire series anon

Even with not knowing who the final boss of the fucking part is and the 2nd smallest Jojo crew. Jojolion is still vastly superior to Stone Ocean, it's not even a question at this point. Don't know what you think the asspulls are though.

>>16597511

>Jojolion is still vastly superior to Stone Ocean, it's not even a question at this point.

What is a question is whether you read stone ocean at all or are just going with the memes. Having re-read it recently, I feel pretty confident in assuming all of its "critics", so far as you can call someone who screeches WORST WORST WORST a critic, must have read it mostly drunk.

Vento Aureo is worse than both anyway.

>>16597511

Jojolion is by far the worst part.

>>16597568

Now that's just plain wrong.

>>16597568

Venturo Aurero has a very strong start but everything after the Metallica fight just goes to shit, with probably the worst final JoJo fight in the entire series.

>>16597629

Holy fuck, why do I always type Venturo instead of Vento?

>>16597639

It's got good moments

but then you have shit like goo goo dolls…

>>16597673

t. gay black priest

>>16597568

Stone ocean has some of the least interesting fights and developments of any part. Dio's sons were all trash as both antagonists and as fighters, slight retcons on Dio himself that try and paint him as more sympathetic or whatnot. An incredibly uninteresting setting of the prison where we spend most of our time. And some of the most shoddy writing that Araki has put out and that's saying something coming off of Part 5. And hands down the least interesting main antagonist who is a largely clumsy zealot whose only saving grace is that he managed to kill the main cast at the tail end.

Jojolion despite having comparably less of a focus has kept me interested in the various factions of rock humans and their respective goals. Yeah, the Scotch brothers were forgettable, Joshuu needed to be upgraded with Rai, and this current arc may make or break whatever finale Araki is trying to set up. But I can say that Gappy trying to get his memories back has been well written. The Higashikata household provides a nice base for things to happen at. Norisuke and his Oldest Son are great characters and the Trap's arc has taken an interesting turn which really reflects how desperate he must feel.

Part 8 lacks a strong direction but that doesn't mean it lacks cohesion overall. We're clearly leading into something and I care to see what that is. What exactly is good enough about Part 6 to not make it worse than Part 8?

>>16597693

>Shawshank is one of my favorite movies.

Too bad the movie isn't the series I read. I just didn't care to be locked up in a prison that has somewhat impossible architecture. Especially in a series known for globe hopping adventures and varied locations. Once they finally broke out things should have improved but surprisingly Florida is also really fucking boring in the world of Jojo.

>>16595608

>Avdol

>fakes getting shot in the head and stabbed in the back

>hangs around for a while

>gets ganked by Vanilla Ice with no warning

It was certainly surprising, though I think the shock was gone due to the prior fakeout

>>16597673

There are good stands in there but most of them are just fucking bad.

>>16597786

>Mandom

>Catch the rainbow

>tusk

>scary monsters

>hey ya

>tattoo you

>CIVIL WAR

>tubular bells

all the other ones i'm iffy about but fuck you.

>>16597772

I volunteered in the prison system for a couple years helping convicts that were soon to be released, as well as ex-cons who would meet at another facility start the process of trying to find a job and filling out applications. Bad luck on that one anon.

That being said, it doesn't make a setting interesting just because I haven't been there. How about the writer make the location interesting as well as being foreign to me? Also there are a lot of incredibly underwhelming enemies in the prison.

>>16597786

What about Tusk Act 4, Mandom, Scary Monster, Catch the Rainbow, That explosion guy, Tattoo You, Civil War, and I'm forgetting a couple others. Part 7 has some pretty fucking good stands.

>>16597806

>How about the writer make the location interesting as well as being foreign to me?

How about this:

>This is a prison

>but not built like a typical prison

>no, instead it is designed by a sadistic mind who does not know what a prison is structured like and only imagines the most heinous of tortures

>>16597819

No, it's a positive because it would instantly shitter shatter anyone who knows what a real prison is like as instead they are walking into some hellrazor dimentional nightmare.

>>16597862

They're called stands because they're a stand in for your fighting spirit

>>16597882

They fucking straight up say they're a representation of your inner ideals and fighting spirit

this is INSANELY apparently with SCR

>>16597886

And yet the very first time the term is introduced, it's right there, "Because it's standing beside you, we call this image.... A STAND!" That's where the name comes from. They can stretch it later but as much as Araki and you want to retcon that's not what the term originally meant.

>>16597896

I'm guessing Silver Chariot Requiem

>>16597862

>Respectfully disagree

The only fights from the prison that I can really remember liking was Highway to Hell and Manhattan Exchange. The rest are pretty lackluster to me but I know that people do enjoy stuff like the Feng Sui fight and Survivor.

>Jolyne actually has to use her brain instead of "lol I can stop time too" and "lol I'm actually Jesus and my stand is super fucking broken even without the Requiem Arrow".

I think Araki actually handled that pretty well across the iterations. Jotaro getting time stop at the end of part 3 didn't make him invincible in part 4 as the Rat stood a good chance at killing him of all things, and because Joestars don't practice their fighting styles between parts just like how Joseph didn't keep up with the Ripple between 2 and 3. Giorno is the only one to really piss me off with how broken he is and he's like that the entire series.

>The prison was the best part of Part 5, what are you talking about?

I assume you mean part 6. Read further down from that comment but tl:dr I just didn't find it an interesting location especially in a series known for travelling around. Yes the prison has a couple setpieces like the nearby swamp and Emprio's room but that didn't really make it work for me.

>Pucci is great

I think C-Moon and Made in Heaven are good stands, but they don't salvage Pucci's motive of being Dio's dick rider nor salvage the series.

>Catch the Rainbow is literally just a mask

Stands have appeared as munane object even in part 3 when they are first introduced. The Emperor is just a gun, Strength is a Freighter, Thoth is a book, etc.

>>16597862

>The prison was the best part of Part 5, what are you talking about?

If you're talking about the all of 2 chapters Polpo was in then yeah it was kind of okay I guess since the rest is just Italy porn.

>>>16597931

>>16597943

.Requiem is a version of what you want at that exact moment in time

polnareff didnt want anybody to get the arrow

so he got a stand that made it nearly impossible to do so.

>>16598001

Nigger Polnareff literally says right there "The berserk requiem is carrying on my heartfelt desire and became a Guardian Stand to protect the arrow.

Polnareff says that he's lost complete control of Siver Chariot Requiem earlier so it's only mission right now is to not let other's touch the arrow and that's it.

>>16598029

Bites the dust is an ability, not a requiem stand. Kira used the arrow on himself, not on his stand

>>16597942

My bad, I meant Part 6. I think 5 is alright but IMO it peaked at the Metallica fight, Limp Bizkit and Green Day were fucking awful.

>>16597955

But he's right, did you even watch/read Part 5? Pol didn't want to die and to keep the arrow safe at all costs. So the arrow fulfilled his wish and made Silver Chariot into an independent stand that couldn't be attacked, I however don't get why he became a turtle. I understand that its because he didn't want to die but why didn't the arrow just fuse him and Silver Chariot Requiem? I also don't get why Requiem is capable of mutating life simply by existing. Same with Kira, all he wanted was for Jotaro to leave him alone so that he could life a quiet life, thus Killer Queen Requiem's Bites the Dust rewinds time when someone finds out who he really is. And Gold Experience requiem, well I honestly still have no idea what it actually does

>>16598048

>Bites the dust is an ability, not a requiem stand

That is correct, it would be more appropriate to say that Killer Queen became the requiem and gained Bites the Dust.

>Kira used the arrow on himself, not on his stand

I don't even pretend that Araki stays consistent so whether you stab yourself or your stand if you can survive you get a requiem. Killer Queen fits the MO of a desperate person being stabbed and gaining a situationally perfect ability based on their desires which is what happens twice in part 5.

>>16598082

Speaking of situational stands, what the fuck was up with gyro when he absorbed the corpse part?

>>16598032

that BtD fakeout was one of the best ideas Araki had

>>16598105

>Because Araki is retard and breaks the stand's rule of "you switch with whatever's closest" just to have turtle Polnareff.

Araki doesn't give a shit about any rules he may have even made himself, he just goes with whatever he thinks would make for a better story

>>16598105

Well you could also say that polnareff ALWAYS wanted the arrow to never fall into somebody elses hands. but that's just guessing at that point.

>>16598127

Some shithead kept spamming his anger instead of actually contributing to the thread.

>>16598112

>Araki doesn't give a shit about any rules he may have even made himself, he just goes with whatever he thinks would make for a better story

You think I don't know that? Just because Araki manages to still create great stories despite being a retcon stacking asshole doesn't mean I won't call him out on it each and every time it happens.

>>16598134

if only he was here to read it!

>>16598093

Ball Breaker? It just works because of infinite energy.

>>16598105

>But Giorno got his stand stabbed by the arrow back in the beginning of Part 5.

I mean that just solidifies the notion that when and how the stand arrow works is subject more to Araki's whims than a hard rule.

>>16598141

Deliberately shitting up a thread and sperging out are against the rules though.

>>16598157

Ball breaker wasn't a stand though (Technically) and i'm talking about when he gets the corpse part, he gets that weird fucking eye power.

>all these green posts

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait ,wait ,wait, lemme guess, someone sperged out?

>>16598163

I figure given that it's both a humanoid figure that Gyro summoned, and that earlier in the series it was mentioned that stands can arise from things like Hamon (Araki states that most hamon users would manifest something like Purple Hermit) that Ball Breaker is in fact a stand born from the Spin.

The scan thing. I have no fucking clue man. He just got it because Araki thought it would be neat.

>>16598127

Some retard who didn't know shit about JoJo threw an autistic fit.

>>16598105

>But Giorno got his stand stabbed by the arrow back in the beginning of Part 5.

I think it depends on the severity of the wound, Jolyne suffered only a tiny cut but it was enough to awaken her stand. Meanwhile Giorno stabbed his chest and so did Kira, which granted both of them a requiem ability and in Giorno's case a whole new stand. I'll never forgive Araki for not giving KQ Requiem a new design.

>Thinking and reading about it further, not quite, Silver Chariot Requiem's ability is the same in the flashback sequence where Polnareff accidentally scratches it's finger with the arrow and was in no way close to dying. That was always Silver Chariot Requiem's ability. What happened when he hit it this time is that, at the current moment right before Polnareff's body died, he wished with all his might for Diavolo to not get the arrow, so Silver Chariot Requiem just kept going on with this directive. It's just that Requiem stands are fucking OP bullshit by default.

Isn't that exactly what my post said?

>>16598183

Maybe it's that alone the parts aren't worth much but together they give something incredible ,eg alternate the world and love train.

>>16598172

It's a T.W.A.T. reference.

>>16598176

While I'm glad the trash is being recycled, I really wanna read it. JoJo threads used to attract the funniest goons.

>>16598206

As we all know, jojo is for pedophile gorillas

>>16598204

>The arrow doesn't have a will of its own, brainlet

I never said it did, all I said is that it gives you what you want the most.

>>>/v/16598222

Not necessarily, it probably just gains access to your consciousness. Maybe Pol looked at the Turtle and thought "God I wish that were me" and wished for his stand to be strong enough to protect the arrow. Or maybe it does have its own will, considering that it's from outer space it might as well be an actual rock alien. I don't fucking know, it's JoJo after all.

>>16598190

>I think it depends on the severity of the wound

Nigger, in the very post you responded to, it has the manga panel describing Silver Chariot Requiem getting it's OP ability just from a finger scratch, let alone gripping the damn thing. >>16598105

Why do trannyjannies only delete one side of a shitpost war? Makes reading through the thread rather tedious when you can't follow the conversation.

Does someone still have the spergout on their page?

Can someone screencap it and show it to me?

I love to see retards getting put in their place but deleting all of the retards posts for some reason is totally fucking whack.

The soul swapping thing in this episode was fucking great, the only game that I know of to have that as a feature though is SS13

>>16598611

Wait until next ep if you're not a manga reader

I wish there was a Remaster of ASB with balance changes, To make it competitive, or close to HTTF in terms of how viable it is; Were there other issues aside from the Framerate being 30 and some characters being straight up broken that kept it from getting big?

If so, a Remaster can certainly fix that.

>>16603029

>vampires can reach inside people like clay

granted but dio's no doctor.

>>16598010

Judai's VA voiced Secco too.

>>16603043

>>16603029

Vampires cant do that.

That ability is exclusive to the pillar men.

>>16603296

Style shift

>>16603296

Araki playing social chameleon. When Phantom Blood came out Fist of the North Star was still big and you had a bunch of Walking Shithouses. 1 through 3 catered to that before starting to phase it out with Josuke and get us to where we are today.

>>16594495

>>16594353

>7th stand user

I've honestly never heard of this in my entire life until now, how good are we talking here though? It looks like some sort of self insert horse shit from the screencaps and artwork.

How many episodes are left in part 5? We're about halfway through the penultimate volume, so 2 or 3 is my guess. That can't be right though.

>>16614720

39 eps total so 5

all that's left is the SCR arc (which we're in) GER arc,and rolling stones.

>>16614666

>how good are we talking here though?

It's an old-school JRPG with gameplay based on the SaGa series. The combat is basic and a bit grindy, but the amount of meaningful choices you get are astounding. Multiple endings, alternate routes, alternate bosses, stand specific ways to solve problems etc.

>It looks like some sort of self insert horse shit from the screencaps and artwork.

The main character is your own self-insert that joins the heroes, hence the title. There is actually an in-story explanation for this and you are being pursued by an organization that wants to stop you from altering fate. The game starts with a personality quiz that not only determines how your character talks and responds to situations, but what stand you get as well. So the character is pretty much meant to represent the player.

>>16594912

Jotaro's time stop ability was hinted at. Also given the relationship with Dio when he took over his ancestor's body and awakened Jotaro's stand power, the symbiotic relationship between the two was an obvious correlation. The only real bullshit thing from Stardust Crusaders was Avdol's first death. The only reason he even came back later was likely fans upset at the time and complaining about it because it really didn't serve much of a narrative purpose.

>>16614768

I would still say it's an asspull with how it only fully develops then, and even if it's not an asspull it's not a good finale.

>>16594679

It is pretty strange how Jojolion still doesn't have an apparent final boss but to be fair it took a long time for part five to formally introduce Diavolo as well.

>>16614768

I do remember hearing of an interview were Araki states that he always intended Avdol to died to bring him back to life as a way to rise the stakes of the part at having a character "dying" so early. Still, his real death is kind of bullshit with him getting attacked from behind and that's it, a better idea would be him getting kill by Dio just like Kakyoin that would have pushed Jotaro to get good at time stopping even faster.

>>16614813

And that's why he sucked, by the time that Diavolo appears his identity little matters.

>>16614744

True. I kind of feel that five episodes might be pushing it, but it'll be fine.

>>16614813

Well, part 5 established that Giorno wanted to become the boss and become a Gangstar, so it was inevitable the villain would be the mafia boss. Though Diavolo's reveal was a long time coming.

>>16614835

What are you talking about? Diavolo's reveal is amazing.

>>16614765

Thanks anon, you've peeked my interest, I'll play it, will report back with my thoughts once I'm done.

>>16614879

The reveal is fine, the character not so much.

>>16614666

All you need to know is that you can play as Senator Phillips

>>16594532

I can't really rank part 8 anywhere because 1. I haven't gotten around to reading it and 2. it isn't fucking finished yet.

>>16597862

>Stands are called stands because they stand behind you.

Shit Araki thought up then chucked out the moment he thought, “wouldn’t it be cool to have a stand that was a gun!”

Emperor

Wheel of Fortune

Anubis

Thoth

Love Deluxe

Superfly

Beach Boy

White Album

Metallica

Oasis

Burning Down the House

Sky High

All of these stands don’t follow the “ghost standing behind you” criteria. I even left out the ones that don’t qualify for “standing” but still manifests a corporeal being, like Bad Company, Harvest, And Sheer Heart Attack

>>16614813

Formally introduce yes but the presence of The Boss had been in from the beginning and he was a pretty sick fuck with what he ordered done so when he wqs both revealed as the ultimate bad guy it didnt seem so far out of left field, though his reasoning is still really weird

At this point in Jojolion everything he tries to pull out now will seem rushed other than Jobin and his crazy mom.

>>16614666

>being this new

Kill yourself.

>>16597997

I wonder what King Crimson Requiem would have been like.

>>16614833

This is honestly one of the most unexpected moves from Araki in this part.

>>16620556

You can see into the future forever.

>>16614833

I just read that chapter the other day and I remember thinking "okay hang on, there must be significance to this guy because Araki seems to imply I should know him." So then I had to look him up and realized he was the first Stand user that Josuke fought back in 2011. I didn't start reading until 2013 when the original anime series ended, but still, holy shit I can't believe I've been on this wild ride for that long. The only thing I can believe less is that there's still no goddamn answers.

>>16620670

Don't worry anon, he's probably going to die next chapter. I honestly stopped caring that much about Jojolion and most nu-Jojo, only thing I'm waiting for is for some actually good new vidya or HttF2.

>>16620556

he'd be able to erase the past. thats what he wanted after all. just like Kira could reset time a full day forward, KC Requiem would probably be able to go back to the past and erase fragments of it at will.

picture this: moody blues, but with an ability to erase parts of the rewinded footage from existence entirely, except the only thing that remains in that period of time is diavolo.

>>16622763

Johnathan should have won by finally unlocking his stand.

>>16620723

>he's probably going to die next chapter

I genuinely believe we're getting a few chapters of a fight between him and Joubin that finally showcases Speed King's "true" ability.

>>16593663

The thing is, that if all the other characters stacked their stands they could easily beat DIO in a manor that makes sense that isn't "OH SHIT JOTARO IS THE ONLY HARD COUNTER".

I haven't read past part 6 so no bulli, but what if the cast went to dimension where Jotaro at the end of part 3 didn't fry DIO after he killed him, they find where DIO's body is kept, Josuke restores his body to be whole and Giorno gives the body a fake life and then it comes down to the other to try and destract DIO so that the "Restored" DIO can merge with reg DIO and BAM, D4C Effect whatever the fuck it's called.

Hell, even if they bullshit something like Jonathan has the exact same Stand as DIO since they're technically the same person barring the head, then that would make more sense.

Sorry if I'm retarded.

>>16593663

>Wait, shit, SC's ending mandates only Jotaro can defeat DIO

Araki did go on record that Joseph if he had kept up with his hamon breathing could have defeated DIO. And it's not like there aren't a number of stand users across the series that could win either.

>>16624001

Could the ambulance have killed DIO?

>>16624272

It could have crushed his skull, so absolutely.

>>16624362

It's less of a strain of araki and gave us SBR, so no.

>>16624159

>that reminds me. would Green Day's moss affect Dio?

It should but the time stop should nullify it's growth during the intervals. Not only that but Dio can ascend pretty quickly so it's a good idea but would require multiple stand users that could reasonably force Dio to move lower and lower.

>>16624608

Story may have been planned out but the execution would have been more sloppy i feel with only a weekly format, way worse art.

>>16597886

>a representation of your inner ideals

Does that mean that your stand will change if your ideals do?

>>16628905

That'd be an interesting thing to see, to have a stand change because a persons inner desires/whatever changed

that's what they're based on afterall

>>16628905

Curiously enough, one of the last chapters of part 8 seems to imply that is possible for that to happen.

>>16624820

JoJo Bizarre Adventure is gay.

>>16593865

>fight game

>IQ

yeah ,that is why so many nigger play it

>>16628905

I think a better way to look at it is not ideals, but the person finding their own potential or developing closer to a 'true' self to cause change. Look at Koishi and Johnny, both started off with little twerp stands but as they progressed through the story they developed alongside them as far as capabilities go.

Maybe it's possible for a ideological shift to occur to such an extent that it could change the stands appearance, but abilities not so much.

>>16628905

Yeah, but the only time we get to "see" it is in Purple Haze Feedback.

>>16623906

I thought the World was Jonathan's stand, its just that he didn't get it because DIO had it first and there was a One Stand Limit in place.

>>16655652

Requiem has no link to the original stand whatsoever. The first rule Araki wrote about it is that it would govern the human soul, and he immediately dropped that with GER. So it's ultimately pointless to speculate. Requiem is a mess of dumb ideas and the nail in the coffin of worst part.

>>16655652

Well it's a heat of the moment thing remember,it depends WHEN he would have gotten it

>>16655657

Aside from part 4, it's funny how much one-upmanship there is for the final boss of each part.

>dio becomes an immortal vampire

>oh yeah well kars becomes an invincible, immortal being that can transform in any way

>guess what, dio didn't die and now he can stop time and if he fully develops his power he can defeat anyone

<oh i guess kira can explode people better

>anyway diavolo can delete time and if he gets a requiem stand he'll be able to do some really crazy shit (not pictured)

>oh yeah well pucci gains the ultimate stand that can literally reset the entire universe and he can make any change he wants

>well even with the whole universe resetting we still have crazy shit with valentine able to slip between infinite realities and then becoming invincible thanks to the corpse allowing him to manipulate fate

<lmao you think that part 8 has a final boss

>>16655652

>So since the anime got up to that point,what do you guys think Sex Pistols Requiem would have been like if Mista had managed to use the arrow?

Whatever Araki needed to further the story

Honestly, this fanwank isn't really going anywhere, there are no IFs in a story that is completely done by a single individual already

More to the point, how would Mista play in a httf like game?

>>16655764

Pretty sure the issue is that he also has Epitaph. It'd be pretty much impossible to get the guy into a situation like that when he knows what's going to happen. Even if he can't change his fate, he'll still be able to react to it and prepare a countermeasure beforehand.

But yeah, King Crimson was just fucking retarded. The whole erase time shit was poorly explained and honestly, it's just a downgraded timestop.

>>16655768

King Crimson without Epitaph is literally fucking useless, it simply needs it to function. So obviously I was talking with Epitaph. If Purple Haze had still been around, all the party needed to do was make Diavolo chase them in some place, spread Purple Haze's virus, and Epitaph would only warn Diavolo five seconds before the symptoms developed, but he would have been infected way before that so RIP. What's that ? Fugo quit for exactly this reason ? So what, Gold Experience can pretty much do anything, so why not create invisible and odorless poisonous fungal spores ? He didn't need to become "nuh-huh, I win - the Stand".

Ultimately, yes, King Crimson is just a shitter, needlessly convoluted The World Araki tried to paint as unbeatable when it wasn't.

>>16655910

>King Crimson without Epitaph is literally fucking useless, it simply needs it to function.

I'll disagree on this, Epitaph is what makes King Crimson as potent as it is but even without it Epitaph you have a stand that disconnects the user from the regular flow of time and allows them to maneuver themselves however they desire without being able to touch their opponent. But they can still take the initiative on their opponents by exploiting the confusion that occurs from the time skip.

It's still a worse version of The World at the end of the day but the ability is still pretty strong.

>>16655917

Yeah okay, you're right, just the ability to throw oneself forward in time skipping any consequence is useful even if you don't know what you're stepping into. But without Epitaph, I'd rather have Mandom than King Crimson.

No, wait a second, Mandom basically is King Crimson with Epitaph. Since it rewinds time, it erases any bad event, leaves the enemy confused too, and you saw what happens without the need for any additional power. It's just slightly worse than KC since it allows the enemy to have another shot, but if you're not a suicidal retard like Ringo Roadagain you shouldn't need one.

>>16598010

>Apparently a JoJo fan

That would make a lot of sense. Yugi's inclusion in the Jump battler basically makes him a stand user with Black Magician basically being used to fight for him.

>>16655931

I really like Ringo and Mandom but I'd still take King Crimson sans Epitaph because Mandom requires you to experience the time you're going to rewind meaning you can be killed before a chance to rewind occurs. Although without Epitaph King Crimson would require a strong sense of prediction and anticipation for attacks to effectively dodge damage much like Mandom would so they are equal in that respect.

>>16656005

Likely another beautiful Duwang.

Zarythe is bringing back the weekly tournaments

>>16656005

to be honest that's really how's it been for the entire part, the only good thing about newer chapters is that Araki finally stopped creating more wikidumps as filler

>>16656081

They've taken 9 chapters and mashed them into 3 episodes already there's no reason they can't wrap it up in one and do rolling stones ONA. I'm still pissed David added a completely cliche shounenshit speech for Narancia out of nowhere though so who fucking knows what David is thinking.

>>16656081

At their current pace, my guess is that GER and Rolling Stone will be combined into the hour-long special, as sort of bookends to the series. Rolling Stone shows how the plot began, while GER shows how it ends. The only way I could see them doing it the other way would be if they included additional stuff beyond Rolling Stone, like having Fugo return to Passione after the epilogue as either an easter egg or a potential setup for a Purple Haze Feedback series. But otherwise, I don't see how you can stretch "Bucciarati gets chased by a rock" into an hour-long episode.

>>16656742

Yeah, with how hard Narancia was deathflagging there, I had to go back to the manga and check. Aside from the "I'll protect you Trish" part, he does say all that, but a bit earlier, not directly before he was killed.

>>16656005

feels like he's just trying to make the characters quirky but it comes out retarded.

>>16656081

Yeah i'm guessing they'll put sleeping slaves as an hour long special, which is nice.

I don't see how they can get enough material for an hour long GER unless they just have diavolo lolrolling back to zero for half an hour

I'm going to be really mad if they don't make an anime adaptation of Purple Haze Feedback. Probably one of the best JoJo stories, if not the best one.

>>16655910

Technically speaking King crimson could beat dio if dio activated the world within epitaph's time frame

>>16655917

No it really is useless, imagine turning off the lights for everybody in a room, epitaph is night vision googles, king crimson is the lights turning off, without it you're both equally fucked

>>16657537

I've heard PHF is great and i would fucking love to see more fugo since he has the permanence of a fucking passing car in the series.

>>16657536

This last episode (36) was five chapters and the episodes before were about four. If the next episode (37) is also five chapters then it will perfectly cover GER and the infinite death loop. It could end there, but I think they'd include the couple relevant pages from Chapter 589 as well; which is a very short chapter.

However this leaves only five chapters for episodes 38 and 39. I imagine they could stretch it out, but it's also possible that we'll get the worst sort of blue balls if they decide to spend time on Bruno's last words and end the episode on GER awakening.

>>16657537

Keep dreaming anon, we'll never see Rainy day dream away animated

>>16657588

>>16657537

They animated that small rohan spin off, it's possible.

>>16657761

it wasnt that he was suicidal. he just didnt mind dying in a fair fight.

>>16657812

No, he was genuinely suicidal, he challenged and forced everybody to fight him who came into his loop.

>>16657812

Araki is a westaboo, Ringo is his take on the gunslinger type common in western films, the fast gun who gets into fights and kills without hesitation but is always fair, sometimes to the point of letting his opponent draw first.Which is funny, since that type of "desperado" is often compared to the Japanese ronin.

>>16657545

>imagine turning off the lights for everybody in a room

Developing the ability to remember where everyone else is in the room would be a good substitute for epitaph. You get a guaranteed period of time where only you have initiative and most people are going to die to that unless they start the match at a severe range advantage to mitigate getting punched in the chest to death once the time skip ends.

The ability itself is still good, but yes it requires Epitaph to be as "flawless" as Diavolo pretends it is.

>>16656043

This is good to see back.

>>16655709

>>guess what, dio didn't die and now he can stop time and if he fully develops his power he can defeat anyone

He also lost his lazor vision

>>16655709

>kira can explode people better

Kira can explode people transcending space and time.

Kira's power transforms from turning objects into bombs to turning an idea into a bomb, sending him back through time to give him the perfect run of his day; he's given "restart mission" button, which is perhaps the greatest power any player character could have.

>>16655764

>king crimson can see 10 seconds into the future

>he can choose to not allow a five second interval to exist anymore

>the team would need to coordinate such a long term attack for a guy who is actively hunting them with a stand that has no punch rush because it just destroys everyone in single jabs and hand slices

let's say they get him into an area with toxic gas

>epitaph: oh shit that's a toxic gas room, not going that way

Collapse a building?

>oh shit this building is collapsing, let me just erase the time when I'm crushed to death and I'll slip out unscathed

It's really hard to write a good counter to a stand who can observe any attack, the closest to that you see is with metalica turning his blood into razors, but he died because narancia just pumped the dude full of lead.

>>16658330

You're just ignoring the fact that crumbling building and toxic gas hazards can't be predicted and evaded just five seconds ahead. Diavolo saw him succumbing to the toxic symptoms and erased the time that got him in ? Cool, but he's already infected anyway. Can he see the building he's in suddenly collapse ? Cool, but he's not going to escape in just five seconds, he's fucked.

King Crimson can observe any attack, but it's not hard to write an attack that you can't see coming in just five seconds.

>>16658413

>building is falling apart around me 10 seconds into the future

>he can start to leave the building by the nearest window

>king crimson any debris that goes his way straight through him

Any toxins entering his body that are so slow acting that they get him a long time in advance would probably also be curable with some symptoms he could probably notice, the only thing they had at their disposal was Purple Haze and that was a very fast acting stand.

>>16658265

No, i'm talking about his main ability, people are still going to move and do what they normally would do in that time frame eg shoot you, they're just not going to remember they did it. it is useless without epitaph

>>16660319

Bullshit though, if that was true he wouldn't have avoided buccellati's punch

>>16660323

>f that was true he wouldn't have avoided buccellati's punch

He had already been hit then he activated his ability. You want more proof he becomes invicible? >>16660206 show that even without moving if he erases time bullets don't hit him when fired directly at his body.

So even a punch doesn't mean anything if he can activate his ability before or during a blow if he gets the timing right. Epitaph just allows him to precisely nail the timing every time. You can still learn to anticipate and react to things without it.

>>16660332

Even so, it's not clear whether or not during the skipped time of epitaph if he can always attack or not thanks to araki

>>16660334

That's not my concern here. I'm just stating that King Crimson's time erasure gives you an unparalleled defense. The only offense I've mentioned is stuff we've already seen like blinding people or using the environment to kill someone. That has nothing to do with Epitaph at all. The ability isn't useless is all I'm saying. The guy who compared it to Mandom had the right train of thought and you're not going to sit there and tell me Mandom is a useless ability either.

>>16660340

Oh mandom's great,but it has it's limits, it's basically an ever changing save state, so if your save state is past the point of death then you get what happens to ringo

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

I like how in the anime he just resigns to being a stone and replies "oi" when Josuke passes by

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16623906

>the final fight against dio

>instead of jotaro+jolyne it is jotaro+jolyne+jonathan

>jolyne gets killed by dio

>realizing that they're running out of options jonathan stabs himself with stand arrow in hopes that whatever comes out will even the odds

>jonathan gains a stand (basically that rose stand dio used to do his spirit photography mixed with hermit purple's harmon abilities)

>another round of fighting happens jotaro+stand jonathan vs dio

>it still isn't enough to win against dio

>then jonathan's stand starts evolving

>being so close to dio (and alt-universe jonathan's body) causes jonathan's stand to evolve into [Heaven on their Minds]

>it still has little potential in straight up combat but has ability to lock down reality within certain area and thus counter the world over heaven's reality rewrite ability

>jonathan uses hotm to wrap the entire battle area in anti-reality rewriting wines

>the final battle is 1 v 1 between jotaro and dio (jonathan being too inexperienced with stand use to be able to both fight and covered shitload of terrain with wines simultaneously)

>rest goes more or less similarly to the eyes of heaven's original ending with it mostly being a repeat of stardust crusader's final fight and ending with jonathan using his universe's dio's bracelets to annihilate the heaven accession dio

>>16623906

Jotaro winning isn’t what makes me hate the last fight, it’s that the game goes out of its way to show you that “Woah, Dio is really powerful, watch him casually swat away GER and Tusk Act 4, how are they gonna beat him this time?” The only way it could get more egregious is if they brought in Ultimate Kars for Dio to make a bitch out of. If you go out of your way to show that Heaven Dio is stronger than the three strongest stands in Jojo, with D4C being the third, then perhaps defaulting to “Jotaro wins because hurr, same type of stands.” even though that’s stupid because The World has evolved into something completely different from Star Platinum. Why bother collecting all the other Jojo’s if they’re not going to do anything? A more poignant ending would be something like Jonathan realizing that even though Dio attained heaven, it’s still his body Dio is using, so he sacrifices himself to destroy Dio’s body and reduce him to a head, after that you can have the dum Star Platinum:The World Over Heaven And everyone has a happy ending.

>>16664253

>even though Dio attained heaven, it’s still his body Dio is using

I'm pretty sure it's canon that Dio is a bisexual (gay), does that mean he stuck Jonathan's dick in a few assholes?

>>16664325

No, as in Dio is still peppering Jonathan’s corpse since his got burned by the Ripple back in 1888.

>>16664352

puppeting*

>>16664679

>that was only brotherly love.

The kind of brotherly love that involves men put in their dicks into other men's asses in a brotherly way perhaps.

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16657829

He challenged others for the sake of improving himself, not dying.

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16665944

I like to believe that if he ever reached his epiphany moment he'd realize he doesn't need to use his watch to turn back time.

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

>>16666043

The mystery behind the stand arrows is that stands were the product of an ay lmao virus the entire time, which I guess means they're supossed to be scientific?

>>16666433

Still not as asspull as the entirety of the Part Two finale.

>>16660663

Yo, Angelo!

Happy America day you water fuck.

>>16666838

>Four minutes to midnight.

Bless this great nation, and let us all pray to Mormon Jesus for peace and prosperity.

Happy fourth, and be sure to have your heart and actions unclouded as you go forth.

Dojyaaaa~n

Niggas didn't post enough valentine,i'm disappointed

>King of Kings for the entire episode

>David will actually attempt to pretend Sleeping Slaves doesn't exist

>>16669091

GER was fucking great. One thing I like about part 5's anime as a whole is that I feel like the more confusing panels in the manga are made more clear when they're animated.

>>16669190

The last episode is an hour so we are probably getting the conclusion of the Diavolo fight then Sleeping Slaves.

Hopefully Purple Haze Feedback will be an OVA

>>16669230

No, it's confirmed the one hour time slot if for episodes 38 and 39 back to back.

>>16669436

Wait so we are getting two hours of content?

>>16669646

>1 hour time-slot

>2 hours of content

I know the desire for PHF is vast, but it shouldn't be possible to misinterpret that information so greatly.

We are just getting the normal episode 38 and 39 that should have aired by this point, but didn't. I assume the recap episodes are to blame.

Hey, anyone know where I can read some Jojolion? I haven't read since the introduction of Rohan2 and felt nows a good time as any to catch up, but my usual site seems to have shat the bed.

>>16674227

its not, you're just going to blueball yourself again. we still dont even have a main villain.

>>16670451

LOOK AT DIAVOLOS FACE

HE LOOKS LIKE A TRANNY

>>16674587

1-7 read, part 2 is definitely the weakest and a chore to rewatch

>>16674587

Who actually dislikes battle tendency?

Its amongst the best parts.

>>16674591

>the most FUN of parts

>chore

>>16674379

Are there people who say that Part 1 is bad? The worst I've heard people say about it is that it's just okay or that it merely establishes the series.

>>16674591

The beginning of part 2 all the way to esidisi was fantastic and pretty fun to rewatch every once in a while. However after that the pacing becomes notably slower with the only good part being whammu vs Joseph.

>>16674597

There were people on anime forums and and other websites that legit think that part 1 is unreadable and should be skipped entirely because it's "too cliche"

>>16674596

I think it is whenever the pillar men aren't on screen

>>16674621

>fun times with joseph

>stroheim being a glorius bastard

>old speedwagon

>lisalisa booty

>joseph and caesar's hijinks

>chore

Not counting the great OST and palette changes in the anime.

>>16674612

>anime forums and other websites

Well of course they're going to have shit taste.

>>16668255

but armstrong is anti-america

his idea of fixing it is by nuking it down to the ground

>>16674379

Question, was phantom blood (and jojo manga in general) written to be ironic at the time of it's release? Or is this just the quintisential cheesy 80s stuff? I caught myself wondering this several times while watching the anime.

>>16674666

Armstrong is about destroying (((America))) and giving the American Dream back to the people, Satan

>>16674666

What the living fuck you talking about Satan? Was you high during his speech? He literally wants to free the country from the liberal bullshit which protects every lazy and spoiled wetback and nigger.

>>16669257

What i need to see beside Trish ass?

>>16674680

>>16674687

But armstrong is the bad guy, dont you understand?

>>16674591

reminder that part 2 had the best intro, characters, and combat

>>16674724

>best intro

Yes.

>characters

No, although arguably the best jojo.

>and combat

For non-stand, yes.

>>16674725

>No, although arguably the best jojo.

only competition would be josuke/okuyasu or pol/kak

>For non-stand, yes

The only good stand fights are the non-humanoid ones. Hell, part 4 and 5's final fights were snoozefests

Pinnacle of stand fights was Grateful Dead and Beach Boy, let's be honest

>>16674635

Oh the OST is fantastic but, i think lisa lisa was a fucking bore,

I think i'm just spoiled by stand fights

>>16674724

>best intro

second worst

>characters

nah

>combat

Nah

>>16674724

>best intro

Bloody Stream sucks ass

>best character

Part 6 still has my favourite cast but Part 2 has some amazing characters as well, I agree.

>combat

It was good but standless combat sucks.

7SU2's "demo" came out earlier today, it was more or less absolutely garbage but I doubt that anyone expected it to be good or even decent.

>>16677921

Tell us more.

>>16677921

gibs it

>>16674379

All Jojo parts reflect the times when they were written. When Jonathan appeared, big muscly shonenshit was all the rage, then Araki gradually moved on to do what other artists had already done but with a spin i.e. there used to be a big surge of psychic series but Araki hated that you could not tell where the attacks were landing so he created Stands as a way to throw punches with your mind and tell the reader where they're aiming. Jojolion is completely stale though.

>>16681552

So when part five was in WSJ was the trend twinks and ladyboys?

>>16677921

nvm

https://mega.nz/#!zVNzAYAZ!b9Kx3eqe7liiPtxreLEH_5-RCV7VvA6UwjYFUZp8-Y8

bump

just started playing this game on fightcade and people say im good for a newb

I play Chaca (?)

Never been a fan of this anime, too silly and the characters look effeminate

What should I expect?

>>16690192

>Jojo

>too silly

Then I’m sorry, but it’s probably not for you.

>part three

>too effeminate

Boy, stop now, because if Bara Crusaders is too effeminate for you then Vento Aureo will give you a heart attack.

>>16691467

There didn't need to be a sequel, but there was and I can see what went down. Like all projects, It got bogged down by ideas guys, and had a distinct lack of artists, programmers, and musicians. I remember the old pastebin the team used to have where they would lay out the progress, and new shit was always getting added.

Not to mention that back when they used to post on here, there was a shitposter who browbeat them out of just using RPGMaker, the same song and dance that happened to the RPG /v/ tried making earlier this year. But once they switched to tumblr they stagnated, also, the art got worse. The sad thing is that a 7SU style game for Part Four is a good premise, and as long as they made it a rudimentary rpg laden with fan service like the first game, it wouldn't be too bad. But they had to one up Clayman, and thus the game is trapt in development hell, look forward to a full release in 2025, just in time for the anime of part 7. Though for all its faults Ganguro is still best girl

>>16691634

>It is a tattoo

I thought it was just a ribbon coming off of her boot, why would they do this?

If they wanting something like this, why not make the “distinctive” character sprites make a return and have Jolyne for the Girl?

>>16692511

To be honest, I feel that the designs for the female cast needs to be worked on a bit more. Aside from maybe the average and short, the rest feels like they just smashed everything that they think qualifies a JJBA character without giving more thought toward it and balancing it out. Like nerdy mc for example. Adding in the glasses gives the idea that MC is book smart, but what's the purpose of giving her octopus braids aside from making her stand out?

>if they wanted something like this, why not make the "distinctive" character sprites makes a return and have Jolyne for the Girl?

I can see why they didn't want to put another Jolyne esque mc since that's already implemented in 7su. But they could've of put a female mc that looks similar to FF. Fat mc is probably the only distinctive looking MC because she looks reminiscent to Valentine.