/v/ - Video Games

I occasionally got it to work. Rubbed it in with my finger tips around the entire bottom disk for about five minutes then rinsed with warm water and dried. Could never get it to work with those purpleish disks though.

I remember this shit, and fuck "muh physical media" fags.

>>16558329

There's nothing wrong with physical media, at least in the context of storage requiring non-moving parts, Cartridges, to-this-day are easy as shit to repair and maintain.

Wouldn't the inherent abrasiveness of toothpaste absolutely destroy a disk?

>>16558342

do you know how resurfacing works? the only difference between scratching a disc and "fixing" it is how big the scratches are.

>>16558342

No, that abrasiveness is what you're making use of. Think of it as ultra ultra ultra fine grit sandpaper.

Don't! I've fucked up my disk with it.

Nigra just pirate the PC version of silent hill 3 and 2 if you cant get shit to work

>>16558358

Sandpaper would, but toothpaste can make a great polishing compound. You can remove a comparatively large amount of material from the bottom layer of a CD without fucking it up. Every CD repair method is either going to attempt to use a filler on the scratches, or polish them by removing material.

>>16558300

It's worked for my games before and as a kid it was the only way I managed to finish Need For Speed Most Wanted. Good times.

I also once tried to use superglue on a disc. Don't do that.

If you are trying to play the Xbox version I've successfully ripped a scratched Xbox game to it's hard disk and it played perfectly fine from the rip. If it's the PS2 version you could just rip it to your PC and if that doesn't work you might as well just download the ISO cause we all know damn well that the physical game is just for show on your shelf anyways.

>>16558300

I tried the toothpaste polishing 3 times in the 2000s, 2x with PC cd-roms and once on an audio CD, and every time it only made things worse, leaving the disc surface even more scratched and opaque and in at least two times making the discs totally unreadable. Maybe I did something wrong but I think it's bullshit invented and spread by some troll.

>>16558428

well i know for a fact these discs used to work. the console was having a problem where the lid switches were wearing out. i fixed them with tape but that didn't last forever so i just soldered the contacts together. now the sh discs don't work

>>16558436

Maybe the laser is dying, is your PS2 a fat model? Those were notorious for having faulty lasers, and the first slim revision was infamous for scratching discs with the ribbon cable, you pretty much need a 9XXX slim model if you wanna play off the disc, otherwise mod your fat PS2 and boot your games off the HDD.

>>16558422

It works, but you need to use the right toothpaste and the right polishing technique. Cheap baking soda based toothpaste is perfect, really gritty "whitening" toothpaste or any clear gel toothpastes won't work.

I tried it many times and it never did

>>16558428

had it happen to me with fable, I must've went through like six discs and never bought the lost chapters edition for some reason, stupid kid me

>>16558442

it's a slim.

>he fell for the toothpaste meme.

>>16558862

this

bought a copy of Splinter Cell 2 from a local vidya shop, and they always run every disc through one of these when you buy it. it was the most pristine disc I have ever seen in my life, bar none

>>16558862

Yeah, never had much luck with the toothpaste, but one of those disc restorers like that thing did the trick. Also you can get one of those discs with a soft brush on it to run in your console and clean the lens.

Just get it resurfaced and make an iso

All these methods to recover physical media are phony shit. Blowing into cartridges would leave spit particles on the contacts and make it oxidize faster. It only "worked" because it was placebo when it actually worked after reseating the cartridge enough times.

>>16559191

Actually, it's because saliva is a half decent transmission media for electricity and data.

It works, but not for the reason people think it does.

Honestly they only thing you're right about is the oxidation.

>>16558300

>>16558369

And/or the PS2 ROM too, using an emulator.

If you want to properly polish away scratches, go get some polishing compound from your local auto section of walmart.

>>16558862

>>16559024

>>16559161

You need to be careful with those. Some of the cheap ones are pieces of shit that will scratch it more. Do your research.

>not just cleaning the disc normally

>>16559191

This.

>>16559200

Are you really that stupid? Reinserting the cartrige without blowing on it does the exact same thing.

>saliva is a half decent transmission media for electricity

That's wrong.

>It works

No it doesn't do anything. I had a GBA and I know that from experience. It's just fucking randomness whether those cartriges work or not.

>>16559414

Who says I'm going to buy one of those cheap shoddy ones from China?

>>16559191

Just clean it with a cue tip and some cleaning solution.

>>16559452

Forgot to mention: You don't even have to reinsert them. Most of the time it's enough to restart the damn thing often enough.

I remember once I had a pirated cod blops for x360 which wouldn't work for shit, I washed it with literal water and it worked

>>16559508

I didn't get one scratch on mine. How do you get a non-touchscreen scratched?

>>16559516

Carrying it in your jeans back pocket in a sandy environment does that.

>>16559520

Can vouch for this, my 3DS has scratch streaks going up the top screen due to it being wider and sand being on the fucking bezel of the bottom screen.

>>16559508

>>16559520

>to this day I am unsure if it actually works with soft erasers

Let me ensure you: You can't fix screen scratches with an eraser.

>>16559537

Thank you for putting my mind at rest, anon.

Are you americans really that gullible?

>>16559549

Oh ram a plug in it Kraut

>>16559537

Actually you can.

>>16559556

It would hide them at most if it gets in the scratch line but it would come off sooner or later achieving nothing.

>>16559565

I bought displex afterwards. I just didn't want to spend money at first.

>>16559580

It works the same as CD cleaners do, you erase all the screen around the scratch so you get a smooth screen at the crack depth.

>>16559537

If it's a very surface level scratch then yes it can. The whole point of polish is to remove the very top layer of whatever substance you're polishing, that way you can remove whatever scratches/paint layer/gunk and expose the next layer. If you have a surface scratch on a disk or a glass screen then polishing it will help, if it's a severe gouge though polishing will do next to nothing because you need to polish until you remove all of the area around the gouge.

How do you retards think car/floor polish works?

>>16559589

>you erase all the screen around the scratch

>he thinks he can polish the screen with an eraser

>>16559598

>He;s never polished a screen with an eraser

Next you will be saying you can't polish a screen with sandpaper.

>>16558300

just emulate it lmao

>>16559616

No sandpaper works fine, actually. Guaranteed 100%-scratch free! Try it today!

>>16558329

PS3/PS4 discs don't have this problem at all. They're practically impossible to scratch.

>>16559648

>optical discs

>practically impossible to scratch

pick one

>>16559594

Polish fills gaps to create a smooth layer, it doesn't tear away material. That's what sanding is for.

>>16559648

Wii U disks as well. It's a matter of manufacturing costs. When CDs were new, the cost was already so high that investing in any sort of substantial protective layering and more durable materials was out of the question. Unfortunately, now that the technology is far better, the read speed and wear and tear on disk reading lasers makes them kind of pointless.

>>16559644

>>16558358

>He should not be using toothpaste on it.

Toothpaste is literally a very fine abrasive compound made for polishing the crap off your teeth without damaging them. If you know what you're doing, you can use toothpaste to polish things back to a factory gloss. But I'm guessing OP does not know the slightest thing about this subject or he wouldn't be asking.

>>16559695

>Toothpaste is literally a very fine abrasive compound made for polishing the crap off your teeth without damaging them.

And somehow this translates to discs? If you know anything about Mohs hardness scale you'd see why this is bad logic.

>>16559704

Plastic is less hard than tooth enamel, so when you polish a disc PROPERLY you are removing the layer of plastic containing the scratch, leaving behind a perfectly smooth finish. If you polish it improperly, you damage the disc further.

>>16559718

>Hardness fades away under pressure, pal.

So what are you saying? I have a feeling putting a lot of pressure on discs with toothpaste is also a bad idea.

>>16559721

You just made it sound even more ghetto rigged than it already is. In 99% of cases you can just use polish to avoid removing a layer. If it's really that bad you should use a disc buffer which has really really fine sand paper, but even a disc buffer with polish would most likely solve problems you can't fix by hand without removing layers. Even if you can't afford the disc buffer I would think something like Melamine foam (Mr. Cleans Magic Eraser is made of this stuff) would work better which is also extremely cheap (unless you buy Mr. Clean).

>>16559833

Well to be fair, that's why people think "Disk Rot" is an objective unavoidable thing.

>>16559734

You are really exposing how fucking stupid you are.

>Majority of ISPs will tank your proxies

What is that even supposed to mean? Do you know or are you just throwing words together? Do you mean they'll throttle my traffic when I have a proxy turned on? Because I have Charter (a pretty big ISP) and I torrent on a proxy literally every day, and I can utilize my full bandwidth with no problems.

>can you tell me why there are no sites for ROMs or games other the TPB?

TPB isn't the end-all-be-all of torrenting, you know. There are tons of torrent sites. You don't even need an actual website to host torrents; trackers can exist without www.helpmeimafuckingretard.com, and magnet links made torrent files obsolete. If you're looking for direct download sites where you can just click "download" and it happens in your browser window, there's a fucking reason they're disappearing. Because they rely on the file being hosted directly by the website owner, which puts him at great personal legal risk.

Educate yourself before you release more embarrassments upon this thread.

>>16559824

>You just made it sound even more ghetto rigged than it already is. In 99% of cases you can just use polish to avoid removing a layer.

Polishing ALWAYS removes a layer. What you're removing is microns thick, but you are still removing material. Scratches themselves cannot be removed. They can be filled in, or you can remove the material around the scratch to even out the surface. Fillers would be something like car wax or a ceramic coating and aren't applicable to compact discs.

>>16559839

I assume this is a thing because those fags got cheeto finger prints, or whatever shit they where eating, all over the disc surface and put it back in the case letting it sit for years. That being said. I wonder what can be done to reduce that. Is there an equivalent of the archival bags /mu/fags use for their records? Maybe having a dehumidifier in the room?

>>16559869

>Polishing ALWAYS removes a layer. What you're removing is microns thick, but you are still removing material. Scratches themselves cannot be removed. They can be filled in, or you can remove the material around the scratch to even out the surface. Fillers would be something like car wax or a ceramic coating and aren't applicable to compact discs.

That's not what this anon says >>16559655 (who also got dubs). I guess I just have to do more research. That being said. I would never trust toothpaste. One reason in particular is Fluoride, which is highly reactive and eats through any surface it touches. Vid related. Not to mention the flavoring, etc.

>>16559905

Disk Rot is just the name for a phenomena that poorly taken care of disks tend to be breeding grounds for molds and shit that eat the disk.

Disks themselves don't rot, but a disk that has become a viable surface for biological factors to continue to damage is a thing, and it's why Cleetus's copy of Gran Tourismo that he hasn't touched since he was a bab with greasy fingers suspiciously has gotten worse despite sitting still in a case.

**Hint, it's the fresh air, and food particles that were inside scratches in the disk, not the disk fairy magically obliterating parts of the disc for years.

I had a big ass scratch on my copy of The darkness for 360.

At first tried manually polish with a toothpaste and it didn't work then i came up with retarded idea to make it faster and more efficient, so i placed my disc in a angle grinder.

Somehow i manage to not injure myself in the process and further more after about 5 minutes or so disk was perfectly readable and looked almost like a new one.

So it definitely works, just a matter of time, effort and a toothpaste.

>>16559905

>I would never trust toothpaste. One reason in particular is Fluoride

>vid

Good that I buy toothpaste without it.

>>16560014

Flouride isn't the only chemical they put in that shit. Some have teeth whitening agents, and god knows what else. Even if you get one without all this shit you're left with is chalk in paste form. It seems like something that works now but will ruin your discs much MUCH faster than just having a disc buffer or using disc polish. All this shit is on a time bomb, even the hardware, but you can control how short the fuse is.

>>16559968

Poorly made discs will naturally decay as the glue fails and lets air in.

>>16560053

I'm buying German toothpaste because I'm German. https://www.zirkulin.de/produkt/propolis-zahnpasta/

Obviously I still wouldn't use toothpaste for cleaning discs.

>>16560107

No those are filled with flouride. And they even sell versions with extra much flouride.

>>16560083

>>16560100

>Obviously I still wouldn't use toothpaste for cleaning discs.

That's good. Also good you're not using the Fluoride chalk shit we have over here.

>>16560112

Got any bio-alternatives then?

I sound like a hippie, but I care about my health non-the-less.

>>16560130

I already posted a link to what I use >>16560083

but I'm not sure you can get it where you live.

>>16558369

Speaking of which, does anyone have the PC version of 2 with all the mods and fixes pre-installed?

>>16560130

There are lots of fluoride free toothpastes, and a wide variety of other options, like homemade toothpastes or alternative methods of oral hygiene. Look into it if you're interested, there are plenty of resources on the subject available freely online.

A library in my town has a disc fixing machine. Ask them

>>16560196

There's still one left in Oregon.

>>16558300

No need, I've never ruined any of my physical copies

>>16559666

wii u disks are actually very prone to scratching and are bizarrely prone to rot as well. Nintendo never could figure out optical disks.

>>16559508

You do know that the gameboy has a protective layer of plastic over the screen? Just replace that, you didn't actually scratch the screen.

Gamestop used to sell this tube of goo that would repair discs, some stores have a disc repair machine inside that you can pay a couple bucks for them to use. (this was over a decade ago and may not exist anymore) toothpaste cantains abrasives like silica and will fuck your disc up even worse. Everyone in the thread is a fucking retard. Do this right if you want to save your disc.

DON'T USE TOOTHEPASTE

>>16570725

if it fucks up your disc, the scratches are very shallow. it's not like you can't just get it resurfaced to fix it once and for all after trying the toothpaste thing.

>>16558329

Kill yourself jewell

>>16570753

Just buy the fucking disc fixer it costs the same as a tube of toothpaste. And if you are an enthusiast you probably already have that shit on hand or atleast you should, it works.

>>16570842

>Just buy the fucking disc fixer it costs the same as a tube of toothpaste

fine then, link me to this magical disc fixer that costs less than $5

Very briefly but your disc is fucked.

>>16558300

>HE ACTUALLY FELL FOR IT

>>16570914

>trusting anything from kikestop

i bet that thing melts the disc into a pile of plastic goop

>>16570951

Used it many times on my gamecube discs and ps2 discs, they even had a disc repair machine there that I would pay a couple dollars to fix used discs I bought. I fucking worked. I could visibly see the cracks in the disc filled in. Like i said earlier. Did you even live a couple decades ago?

>>16570965

the thing they used was a proper resurfacing machine, which removes material to bring the thickness down to match the depth of scratches, making them disappear. i'm not wasting a dollar on that filler shit, i'd rather just buy another copy of silent hill 2 and 3 instead.

>>>16570993

>>>16570914

>also yes, i did use that service. i've had games resurfaced at gamestop, game crazy (when they existed), and at greywhale.

>>16570993

Yes because silent hill 2 discs will still be produced in decades to come right. I took a disc that didn't work and used that shit on it and it worked. The tougher jobs with discs that booted terribly required the resurfacing machine. Things are good now just buy another disc right?

>>16571001

i'd rather just mail it into a resurfacing company.

>>16571005

That's good. Hope they still exist in the future. Also hope they send that shit back because xbox said they'd re[air my dead consoles, nike said they'd repair my broken shoes and I still havent't had 2 360's or my air maxs returned to me repaired after a decade.

>>16571010

the company who made the thing has a reason to not service your stuff, because they have billions of dollars and can shit down the throats of their customers with no negative repercussions. as far as i know, most resurfacing operations are just a dude who bought a machine and probably makes just enough money to keep the lights on. they actually rely on their customers good will so they can't afford to treat you like you're worthless.

>>16571010

also when i say it's just a guy who bought a machine, i'm referring to collectors and sellers who sell used games on ebay. they buy it to refurbish the stuff they sell and the stuff in their collection, but you can make money off of the service itself, so why not turn a profit. these guys are not millionaires.

>>16560023

Nice try, FBI.

>>16571455

Good attempt, central intelligence agency.

>>16558329

>fuck owning things that aren't tied to some kike's online service

>had a collection of about 20-30 PS2 games when I was a teenager

>PS2 is down in our unfinished basement, gritty concrete floor, exposed foundation, all that jazz

>older brother throws fits when he's mad at me for random shit

>he caught me copying music from his computer or something stupid like that

>while I'm at school the next day he throws all of my games on the ground, scraping them against the bare concrete

>90% of the games are unplayable from how scuffed they got

>read up on the toothpaste trick

>worked on maybe 1/4 of the games but would get a lot of disk read errors before it would read

>any time the disk needed to be read in game could just crash the game or put me in an endless load screen

Don't expect miracles but it does help.

Does disc resurfacing with fine sandpaper and toothpaste work on ps2 games? Would the disc be really vulnerable after the process or can you use it as usual? I recently took my old ps2 slim and my games out of the attic and four of them don't work at all and one of them works but barely. I cleaned all of them with a washing liquid. I'd hate to lose matrix path of neo , tekken 5 and 50 cent bulletproof

>>16558358

How about reading before ooh ooh ahh ahhing, you nigger? He didn't say shit sbout using sandpaper. Fuck, is reading hard for you? Do you understand the other dipshits on this board?

Actually, two good ways are rubbing a bit of banana on the disc, or liquid soap. I don't know which stupid fucking nigger decided toothpaste.

>>16583063

behold, the emulation "preservationists."

>>16583523

break all your physical media goyim

You're are all stupid, of course toothpaste doesn't work

You can't fix CDs with food

>>16580713

Then own everlasting DRM-free digital copies of games, faggot. Do I need to tell you how?

>>16583553

The silica they use isn't food, it's glass.

>>16558358

I've used fine sandpaper to fix discs, you use that and automotive plastic polish. it's the same shit they do for car scratches

>urgghh scratch=bad

you are smoothing the scratches with more even scratches then you fill it with the polish

>>16558329

Die Gabe

i knew a kid that swore that putting a disc in the toilet and flushing cleaned it better than anything else

>>16580681

how does that work?

>>16558329

>oy vey just use this virual loicense you can never share or trade :^)

Or try taking betting care of discs?

>>16623998

virtual* better*

Fug I'm tired.

>>16612763

Did you ever try it?

>toothpaste

>bananas

>erasers

>not using the right tool for the job

All you need is very fine sandpaper and a plastic polish for car plastics, wet sand it and polish with the plastic polish/fill.

>>16583013

you're brother sounds like a prick

>>16624045

holy fuck I can't into grammar

>>16580713

>not storing disc images with removed DRM on HDD