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That girl on the cover is exactly the reason I have a micro-bikini fetish.

Daggerfall is too big. They tried to make a realistic RPG but made one that's super repetitive environments wise. The game map is like 63,000 square miles. That said, I think Daggerfall is one of the best RPGs you can play if you want total freedom. There's also a port of Daggerfall to Unity that works well and is a bit nicer to play then original.

>>16470980

Daggerfall would be a whole lot better if there were more fantastical biomes and things like wandering armies of monsters or whatever. A grand scale RPG like that should actually be grand and not just a delivery boy simulator with really long roads.

>>16470980

Doesn't Arena have all of Cyrodil?

You'd think that one would be bigger.

These games get old fast, the auto generated dungeons are the same shit every time. Arena has some good hand designed dungeons, but there's only a few of them.

>>16470541

I forgot to note that Arena has shit controls. Where as Daggerfall improved it's controls significantly and allows for fully key rebinding. The latter game is more "fun" if you just want to mess around. Nether are great RPG's and you would be better off playing World of Xeen, Eye of the Beholder or Wizardry if you want a taste of old school crpg's.

>>16471232

>Nether are great RPG's

>you would be better off playing World of Xeen, Eye of the Beholder or Wizardry if you want a taste of old school crpg's.

Technically both are what RPG should be. Total freedom to roleplay as anyone you want and choose your own objective. Those old school RPGs may offer more coherent experience but can't facilitate this kind of thing.

>>16471418

Play Darklands and report if you still think so. :^)

Daggerfall is superior.

>>16470993

It does need more to do in the overworld. There is pretty much no reason to not quick travel.

>>16471071

Arena doesn't have real land.

>>16471139

>muh hand crafted dungeons

Daggerfall's dungeons are not the same shit every time. There is a variety of layouts, textures, objects, and enemies that differentiates them quite well.

>>16471223

You are vastly underselling what Daggerfall does or allows the player to do.

>>16471232

>World of Xeen

Might and Magic is overrated.

>Eye of the Beholder

Mediocre.

>Wizardry

As much of an RPG as a JRPG unless you are talking about VI, VII, and VII. VII and VIII fall into the territory of RPG worldbuilding that I hate where space and aliens are mixed in just like in Might and Magic which completely ruins the fantasy appeal.

You will never experience the Bethesda Game for the first time again

I preferred the main quest of Arena but I wouldn't play it without the shield spell. Daggerfall is fun for larping but ironically it's the handmade story dungeons in the main quest that I dislike, some of the later ones are lever hell. Overall I think Arena is the better game, but I'm more likely to replay Daggerfall, though not the main quest.

>>16471418

>implying computers can ever simulate real PnP RPG experiences that require other sentience humans with imagination.

Yes but therr is no real game, its just a big sandbox with no goals or conflict. Its just a big aimless larping simulator for men who want to pretend to be women.

>>16471722

>t. tranny

>>16471746

>>>/facebook/

>>16471722

>layouts, textures, objects, and enemies

All of which have the same chance of appearing in every random dungeon.

>>16471883

>random dungeon

They were generated once before the game was shipped. They are not random every time and the only time enemies change is when you are a higher level, but the theme of enemies generally depends on what the location is supposed to be.

>>16471874

>>Yes but therr is no real game, its just a big sandbox with no goals or conflict. Its just a big aimless larping simulator for men who want to pretend to be women.

>>t. tranny

I have only ever played male characters.

>inb4 lmao XD faggot

The only faggot here (with or without a gaping wound between their legs) is you with your weak bait.

>>16471722

>muh hand crafted dungeons

>Daggerfall's dungeons are not the same shit every time. There is a variety of layouts, textures, objects, and enemies that differentiates them quite well.

Have you even played the game? The algorithm is so simple that you get the same corridors, rooms and halls repeated tens of times in a single dungeon.

>>16471935

Yes I have played it and you are exaggerating considering the dungeons are made up of blocks that are interconnected together, not singular rooms or hallways that are interconnected together.

>>16471911

When I played, there was no apparent theming to the enemies.

>the only time enemies change is when you are a higher level

Level scaling is cancer.

>>16471874

>what is tabletop simulator

>>16471940

>Yes I have played it and you are exaggerating considering the dungeons are made up of blocks that are interconnected together, not singular rooms or hallways that are interconnected together.

How is this relevant? The algorithm comes up with simplistic layouts because it's limited, and they're repetitive because there is a small pool of elements to work with.

>>16472024

>freedom is bad

>>>/leftypol/

>>16472286

>no u

Leftypol confirmed

>>16471746

>tfw they never released daggerfalls soursecode

Bethesda admitted they lost it by accident when they changed offices during the development of Morrowind (they also laid off a HUGE amount of staff at the time). At the time devs had a devil may care attitude toward source code because the concept of "re-releasing" a game was science fiction. Outside of mega franchises like Mario with Nintendo.

The only real hope people have nowadays is with Daggerfall Unity.

>>16471071

Yes and no

While you do go to each nation of Tamriel, the land outside of each town is procedurally generated according to a seed as you go, so you can't actually walk from one town to the next

>>16472333

>if I keep mentioning trannies nobody will suspect!

Waste of trips.

>>16471854

>Daggerfall is fun for larping

>larping

>in a video game

You're a fucking retard.