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>>16365437

DMC: dmc

Zelda II. Though the bad rep mostly comes from no skill shitters who would rather have an inventory full of different looking keys than good combat and skill requirement.

Zelda 2 and Castlevania 2 come to mind. Zelda 2 was a fun direction for the series and Nintendo would do well to bring it back in spirit if nothing else. Castlevania 2 mostly got its hate way after-the-fact with idiots thinking the Angry Nintendo Nerd was serious and well-informed when he bashed it.

>>16365651

Zelda 2 was a bretty gud idea, it just needed more time to polish it.

>>16365783

Zelda 2 with a proper translation, clues, and maybe clean up some of the bullshit platform jumping elements would have been fantastic

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>Everytime you do significant stuff like shift into your dragon form you increase your D-ratio.

>When this hits 100% you get a game over.

>Your Dragon power overwhelmed you and killed you.

>So you restart the game.

That sounds fucking awesome. It's like a roguelike, but instead of perma-death, it's a working thing in-game, and forces you to git gud to see more of the game. Why the fuck didn't I get a PS2 when growing up, holy shit.

Is the whole series good? I need to play this shit.

>>16365969

Silent Hill 4's only major slight is backtracking. Beyond that its got a strange dreamlike quality that captures the tone of the first 3 but expresses it differently. 1 intents to scare, 2 intends to unnerve, 3 intents to panic and 4 intends to make you tense with disquiet.

Plus the character models hold up and the music is excellent as usual.

>>16365984

They are all good but 1-3 are generic early 90's jrpgs, 4 is good but very anime only 5 is this 'okay this time i know more, im stronger and will get further and see new secrets along the way' like this. Honestly theres little like it to this day.

>>16365651

Zelda 2 doesn't have good combat. The Wonder Boy/Monster World games do a far better job of realizing its game play style.

>>16365999

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>>16365659

using these trips to encourage you to play the dragon's trap, monster lair, monster world 4 and monster boy

>>16365999

Too slow.

>>16365984

Bof 1+2 suffer from a high encounter rate and bad translation but patches exist which alleviate the bad translation. Bof 3-v are worth it

>>16365984

BoF 3-4 are pretty amazing and have aged well. I'd recommend the PSP version for BoF3 emulation.

>>16365437

Resident Evil 6 has the best movement system of the 7th generation, including Vanquish. But millennial faggots learned from game reviewers that the series is supposed to be a walking simulator with jumpscares.

>>16378948

>people want to play resident evil for its movement system

>you can ignore everything else bad about a game because it supposedly has one good thing

Absolutely retarded.

>Zelda: Majora's Mask

Many people didn't give the game a fair chance and beat it when it came out because they'd get frustrated at the time limit and save system, kinda like Dragon Quarter in a way. But it's an artistic game that has a melancholy atmosphere and tone unlike any other game I can think of, and is my personal favorite Zelda.

>Quake IV

Sequel to Quake II but it's a slower-paced game without the advanced movement Quake is known for, and runs on Doom 3's engine. It's not as good as the older games but I still think it had good level design and weapons and was better than Doom 3 in just about every way. I think another reason it was bashed was because it launched around the same time as F.E.A.R. which overshadowed it and the shitty port on 360. Sad that the franchise has since died and we'll never get another single player Quake, but at-least the modding/mapping scene for Quake 1 is still going strong.

>>16365437

Fou-lu did nothing wrong.

>>16379914

The time limit is MM is so lenient and dungeons so baby tier I'm convinced only literal retards had a problem with it.

>>16388493

What's the reasoning behind skipping the first game? I've been interested in jumping into Breath of Fire but don't really know anything about the series.

>>16388787

It's just super mediocre. Skip it or not, but know that when going into it.

>>16388799

Ah I see, I'll at least give it a chance. Thanks anon.

Far Cry 2

>developers set out to create a realistic portrayal of Africa

>while also portraying a third world hellscape that hates you in every fiber of it's being

>while also making a pretty good videogame

>everything wants you dead, the weather, the insects, your people, their people, the FAL that just exploded in your arms, angry cars, the fire

>in the end the game plays well, and portrays the utter misery of africa through gameplay

>"there's like too much driving, and the uh guns break every two minutes, why wasn't this more like COD4? Why can't I just run forward and win? shit game"

to be honest, the driving is a bit much, and the guns degrade too quickly, but that's not enough to ruin the game completely

>>16388806

The first game is not bad by any means, just suffering from a godawful translation that no one ever bothered to fix unlike the sequel. The writing is tad generic overall but there are moments here and there where you shed a tear or two and ways that the plot surprises and makes you curious like the "stranger" NPC.

Unlike the sequels there is also an easily accessible way to completely negate all random encounters so you don't have to deal with them and you can easily finish the whole game at level 20-30 if you know what you are doing , the strategy in battle is not particularly deep however, since most debuffs don't work and after you buffed your team it's just a DPS race to the finish. The graphics are great and pleasant to look at with a nineties anime aesthetic, the sound design is excellent making fights satisfying and the music is great too.

Do not skip it if you plan to play the whole series you will miss out on tons of references and easter eggs later on.

>>16388920

Oh and the game also heavily rewards exploration as there is a ton of hidden items and loot all around the place all of which is useful one way or another since even some of the seemingly worthless gear can be used in battle to cast spells in in original final fantasy or DnD.

Oh and most importantly there is a jew simulator minigame once you get your (((merchant))) that Talon from DQ4 would eat his heart out for.

>>16388931

Consider the Maeson hack if you want to rebalance BoFII: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3272/

>>16389022

Used that for my retranslation playthrough. Was fun and made more characters viable but didn't really revolutionize the game.

>>16365659

Simon's Quest had overly cryptic "clues" even in Japanese and forced you to either choose between horrible load times (FDS) or horrible text speed (NES).

>>16365640

Nice bait, but DMC: dmc isn't experimental.

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>>16366184

I'm playing BoF IV right now and keeping a low level to get max gains from masters. Does anyone remember if there's a penalty for hitting every NPC with Ryu's sword to get free cash?

>>16365659

>They are all good but 1-3 are generic early 90's jrpgs

BoF 3 is one of the few, if not the only, JRPG that doesn't have a very melodramatic plot. The game is not about saving the future, but about learning the past.

I still think they should have explained how the hell did Teepo managed to get to Station Myria ALONE

>>16365437

>Breath of Fire 5 is set after the end of the world. Mankind lives deep, deep underground and the surface world is uninhabitable.

I liked it better when it was called Terranigma on the SNES.

>>16390455

Hitting NPCs lowers you score I think, which affects dragon transformations.

Super Paper Mario. I thought it was decent.

>>16365437

>>16365984

reminds me of the comic book "Spawn"

>>16390427

The marketing was though.

>>16390427

FUCK YOU

>>16391455

FUCK YOU TOO

>>16390471

Danke.

>>16388920

>>16388930

Yeah I was planning on playing through the whole series. I've (probably) soldiered through worse JRPGs so I'll definitely take the time to play through it to fully appreciate later games.

>>16388931

Thanks for posting this anon, I didn't even know about the translation being awful.

>>16397716

Most just hated "AN IDENTICAL MANSION HALF A MILE AWAY THAT BLEW UP BUT WASN'T NOTICED BY THE STARS THAT ARE RETCONNED TO SHOW UP MINUTES AFTERWARDS, AND THE ABLINO MONKEYS FROM CONGO!".

But i will say the Ecliptic Express section was rad, i wish we got more games involving trains. In real life i find them boring but in games they conjure up images of westerns and action movies and dont get enough play.

>>16398209

I never played the original PE, so for me PE2 was fantastic overall, it was great in many aspect, and despite it's flaws, I'd definitively put it above RE2 or 3 because it isn't just "everything is grey, destroyed and in flames, but at least it has a varied environment, the ARK was pretty nice, if terribly executed, and the whole "this is human's next step in evolution" is nice, bosses are really fucking good too, definitively contains my favorite boss battles in most gamesFuck that computer password puzzle, though

>>16403225

I remember how hyped I was about Maximo when I read about it years ago in a magazine, but being a poorfag I never could afford it. I managed to play it recently on emulators, and honestly, it is mediocre. It isn't bad, but the controls feel a bit janky, even for a PS2 game. The original GnG movement feels really fucking free, even floaty, specially compared to Castlevania, and I think that's what gives it a lto more potential as a game, Maximo felt way too stiff.

The mechanics are great, though, and I'm sure I would have loved it back then.

>>16388525

Time limits are antithesis to exploration. With only 4 dungeons, it was the the first to kill the series. A series so loved that people still have hopes for it more than 20 years after it died.

Oddly I love Breath of Fire 5. Most games have more and more depressing feeling as you play but this is the opposite. You have the dragon counter hanging over you sure, but you also have the depth meter telling you how close you are to escaping to the surface. The forced restart isn't that bad, I only did it my very first play. You get scored when you finish the game and there are extra scenes and rooms/loot you get access to for playing through again based on it. It's actually pretty short when you know exactly how it all works and can use your dragon power at the right times (apparently 54 minutes).

>>16403442

To my understanding, Maximo was originally supposed to be an N64 title so at least some of the platforming woes are a result of the times and technology for 3D platformers. Can't say I have much experience with the original GnG because I could never git good at those as a kid and haven't gone back to revisit them, although if Maldita Castilla is any indication I could do decently after learning the stages enough.

>>16406704

>Time limits are antithesis to exploration

Really depends on the game in question, and MM is a bad one to complain about. The time limit is there because many events are largely tied to specific time blocks and it might be necessary to complete prior events before unlocking new areas/changing existing areas so that new content is available. There is a lot to explore and find within Termina as opposed to Hyrule from OoT which is a lot more barren. Also the ability to freely rewind time just means that players will eventually start planning out each cycle in order to accomplish their goals and the only hard limit the time limit enforces is how much one can get done in a single cycle.

Having less dungeons also didn't kill the series here because it traded having a larger number of dungeons for having a denser world in terms of events and a decent amount of mini-dungeons in tow. All of the major dungeons are also moderately-to-fairly intricate in design relative to other zelda games so while the game still isn't brainbustingly hard, it will make you think 3 dimensionally and pause more than a couple times.

>>16366184

The world in 4 stands out for its unusual middle-eastern aesthetic, also reflected especially on Fou-Lu's tracks in the soundtrack. I still prefer BOF3 in general (especially because it has the best fishing system by far) but 4 has that aesthetic plus usually not seen in JRPGs.

>>16406678

The early puzzles were easy, but I got stuck for a while in the goddamn motel lobby with the cash register. My English (not mother tongue) as a 11yo got me through the game so far but some specific intricacies got over my head namely, the clue right behind the register that mentions you should check the "still". I had no idea that referred to a still photograph back then. My uncle helped me out though, and after checking the still with the two guys I remembered that each motel room had a frame with birth/death dates of people. It was a cinch afterwards. As for Aegis, it does explain things very well, that one wasn't so bad.

For Holy Water and Full Moon Gate I just had my uncle print me a list of codes at work. Fuck those.

>>16410503

The damage number boxes look really warped. Some weird filtering's going on in there… I used ePSXe via wine for PE2 before and it didn't look like that. Try toggling the different filtering options (FI) during gameplay. (hit del to open the options, pg up/down to select option, home/end to toggle them).

>>16378972

You can in this case, that's what mercenaries mode is for.

>>16410503

Have you tried using a good emulator?

>>16397716

What people really hated about that game was the inventory system, why the fuck was the item box gone and why is rebecca the only one that can crush herbs and mix them, when billy presumably has a lot more experience with improvised medicine since he's a war vet?

>>16398209

People didn't hate PE2, it just didn't sell as much as RE2 so square dropped it, didn't help that the author of the novel it's based on threw a shitfit and didn't let them use the name for anything else.

>It is unfortunately too easy on Normal, so people never get to explore the mechanical depth that is in there.

Agree with you, i wish bounty/nightmare mode was unlocked from the start, that way people would learn how fun and surprisingly strategic this game is, i love how you have to pick your fights and make do with whatever the game throws at you.

>You'll have to rely on a shitty pistol for a good chunk of the game due to a lack of other easily replenishable ammo, and thus will learn what critical hits, range and penetration truly means

>You WILL use weapons other than the M4A1 with underslung grenade launcher

>Actual grenades are rare drops, the only "grenades" you can buy are riots and they cost way too much

>All the parasite EXP you get is going to get invested into energy shot, pyrokinesis, necrosis and antibody, so healing has to be done with items/via the tactical vest that gives back a small amount of health after every fight, which means you can't afford to get hit

>You have to pick up the secret black keycard at the beginning of the game in order to get a free shotgun and access to unlimited shells and more powerful pistol ammo

>You'll have to consult a guide in order to find all the item pickups, you will need them

>Saving the dog is no longer a choice only subhumans let him die anyway, that calico you get is capable of mowing down golems with ease

>Saving pierce is a necessity, as he owns the best armor in the game and a trinket that reduces damage taken

>All those HP UP serums, tonic 3 and colas you get have to be spent wisely

>There's golems everywhere and they drop valuable items, so you can't just run from every fight

>Bosses hit so goddamn hard that killing them will actually feel rewarding

>Enemy variety is at its best

>Good ending path is a given, as you get access to unlimited grenades, unlimited rifle/machinegun ammo and the best weapons in the game

>>16398209

I still haven't finished Parasite Eve II yet. The first was amazingly comfy and fun to just go into combat. But the second isn't so comfy, a price paid by making it real time combat I suppose. Biggest complaint is not having the insane gun customization from the first game. I just want to blast monsters with exploding fire/ice bullets with an insane amount of ammo and damage.

>>16413023

So changing color is good, in fact it's expected, as long as I don't also change the shape?

In other words what is and isn't acceptable to change in a game is as ambiguous as that image.

Couldn't handle.majoras mask

>>16413085

The image is clear, faggot. Sequel should be like the first one but with different content, a sequel shouldn't be an exact copy of the first one or a complete deviation of it.

>>16413023

But what if green circle game is really fun in it's own right, independent of it being a sequel to another game and of a completely different genre? The gameplay, atmosphere, and style of Resident Evil 4 was vastly different to Resident Evil 1, 2, and 3, but it's an amazing game by it's own merits.

>>16413190

Resident Evil 4 is shit. It killed the franchise and inspired the worst remake of a game possible.

>>16413023

You probably think standalone expansions like Left 4 Dead 2 are good sequels.

>>16413569

>there's no way to avoid it

>no way to turn her back

>at some point you can't even use the fucking bird anymore

fite me IRL capcom!

>>16412441

Thanks, will give it a try.

>>16412824

>Biggest complaint is not having the insane gun customization from the first game. I just want to blast monsters with exploding fire/ice bullets with an insane amount of ammo and damage.

That made me salty too, because gun fuckery was what pulled me in. But when you figure out how well balanced the weapons in PE2 are, you can appreciate the thought that went into it and take advantage of them. Take the M93R, her starting pistol, for example.

Unlike every other non-melee weapon, damage is reduced when an ANMC is more than one meter away. Damage and critical hit rate reduction due to range doesn't kick in for other guns until the ANMC is more than two meters away. Each round fired has a default critical hit rate of 10%. It also has the highest fire rate in the game. The M93R takes pistol ammo, which is effectively unlimited. Put all this together and what does it add up to? This gun is specifically designed to be very powerful but only when a player is too close to an ANMC, which happens all the time. There's a reason you can take this thing through half the game. Other pistols like the PO8, P229, or Mongoose have 40% base critical rates and low fire rates with normal range attenuation. This specialization makes them worthless against enemies who are immune to criticals, but generally these guns do replace the M93R. You'll also have encountered an SMG and potentially a shotgun by the time you get the pistol the devs throw at you.

>>16413879

With Nuts & Bolts they teased a proper platforming sequel and gave us a game where the platforming takes a back seat and we get time trials instead. It didn't feel like you were on an adventure and the world didn't change or have much to explore. Everything was just a hub for time trials. Now we'll never get a traditional sequel to Banjo-Tooie outside of the mediocre Grunty's Revenge.

>>16414042

It's sad because the level design in some places as well as the fact that you do get all the platforming powers as a bonus after beating the game indicated that Nuts & Bolts really did start off in development as a proper Banjo-Threeie. Sure it probably wouldn't have been as good anyway given that key Rare people left but some good stuff was there.

>>16414087

>you do get all the platforming powers as a bonus after beating the game

Man I'm really starting to think that game can be saved by mods. Does it use any standardized engine?

>>16427386

I'm retarded, wikipedia lists Havok as the game engine but I totally forgot that game is Xbox only.

>>16413023

This, experimental sequels are fundamentally about developer narcissism. They think everything about the game is about them and disregard all the fans who actually play it.