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imo best RPG of all time but also tied with earthbound

tmw you get Ayla to such a high level that her normal fist actually takes on status effects.

>>16261973

if it's not for you, it's not for you, but for a lot of us (((Millenials))) it strikes a chord. And the soundtrack is phenomenal. Sony sound chip but then Nintendo and Sony got into a fist fight, and what was to be the SNES CD became the Playstation 1.

>>16261955

frog theme best theme

crono - magus - ayla best team

fuck that trex fight first playthrough playing blind. fucking bullshit.

>>16261973

Time travel for one. Go through the entire game and beat it, then under a new game plus you're bascially in a time loop, but also beyond time. Get Chrono to lvl 99 and gear him right and you can take the final boss solo.

Amazing soundtrack and visuals

Good story

The time travel is handled well actually

Mutliple endings based on when you decide to take down the final boss

A great supporting cast of characters

Good batttle system, etc.

>>16261955

>stories

The story is all pre-written. We all played the same story.

>>16261994

I think he means stories of you playing it, fond memories and the like

>>16261998

But it's always the same. This isn't the kind of game where unexpected things happen that you can tell stories about.

>>16261994

>>16261998

Yeah I meant personal stories / memories of playing the game. I recorded a cover of "Lab 16" in 2004, think I still have it. Although, to be fair, since there were multiple endings, some of us might have had different game experiences than others.

>>16262007

How many of us actually ground out the timeline to get the ending where you can meet all the devs on the team?

I remember playing the game. It was okay.

>>16262013

Fuck I never did but was always amazed by that.

>>16262022

I remember it, they all lines to say, were various monsters or characters from the game.

I never did get all the endings. Such as when the lizard men survive and kill out the humans, or when Chrono becames the dark lord, etc.

>>16261973

soundtrack, story, and visuals

gameplay is fairly meh

I personally think it's a solid "okay" or "good" but nothing worth gushing about

Phantasy Star IV is better

Super overrated game with shallow mechanics. Good for a playthrough to enjoy the story and music, but doesn't actually have much replayability beyond that (and no, in spite of inventing the new game+ idea, it didn't execute it in a way that actually facilitates replaying).

>>16261973

Time travel and seeing the differences between the eras did it for me. One of the best OST of the time as well. It was a next gen new classic JRPG of its day and anyone who played it then, was pleased with it.

The worst thing about Chrono Trigger is that it baits you into thinking that battles can be avoided due to the way the encounter system appears to work initially. But then, in fact, most areas of the game have a ton of "Gotcha!" zones where enemy encounters just show up out of nowhere and can't actually be walked around.

>>16261973

It does the all of the typical JRPG tropes very well. However you feel about those tropes is a good indicator for whether or not you'll like the game. If you like them you'll like the game, if you don't like them you probably won't like it very much. Also, there's no grinding necessary.

Does anyone else feel cheesed that this game tells you that "it monitors" your every action, but then does jackshit after the court trial is over? When that prosecutor was listing off all the shit I did wrong, I was like holy shit, this game really IS watching me. But then after the trial, the game stops "recording" you and doesn't have any more moments like that where it brings up your past choices.

Newfag here

what the fuck is an earthbound?

looks old

i really dont wanna bother with the emulation stuff

is it worth the trouble?

-UB IIV

>>16261973

A story about a galactic eldritch parasite that moves from planet to planet cultivating entire lifeforms and their culture from start to finish for scraps of genetic info to make it into a better and better god-like being until it transcends the 3rd dimension into a 4d lifeform isn't your cup of tea anon? It's admittedly a rather old sci-fi lovecraftian sort of story but it also has those warm fuzzy feels while still in reality being a really depressing game, hence it's sequel that everyone hated but was actually decent.

>>16262129

>Reminder that this will always be the closest we will ever get to an official Chrono Trigger 2.

You mean how Toriyama managed to co-opt both a Chrono sequel and Valkyrie Profile game to set up for his waifu's arrival to the real world.

Cross > Trigger

>>16261973

look at this babyfaggot

>>16261973

1.- Excellent pacing, never a dull moment

2.- Gameplay-centric, while interweaving gameplay and story perfectly

3.- Excellent soundtrack

4.- Excellent ATB system, ahead of its time (superior to FF6 in spritework, gameplay, you name it)

5.- 20+ endings, new game+, full of nice attention to detail and content

6.- A lot of room for variation in party members and formulating your own setups. Obviously Ayla/Robo/Chrono is the best combo but everything is viable.

7.- Great cast of characters

8.- Time travel theme handled very well, with repercussions, actions having consequences, little to no plotholes

9.- Good humor, Good action, good story that you wil enjoy without being tryhard, stale, pretentious, just organically and genuinely good .

all this in a SNES game ahead of its time in music, gameplay, story. This was agame done with effort for the sake of making a good game. Something that is very rare and pretty much extinct for triple A nowadays.

If you're into RPGs, this is one of the top 10 must plays if you wish to be considered an actual connoisseur of electronic entertainment.

>>16262122

True that most battles happen due to crossing invisible lines, a few of them can be avoided by walking past. Most people hold the run button all the time though so it's not obvious.

>>16262773

Where does it tell you it monitors your every action? You don't even find out that it was keeping track until the 2-3 hour mark on your first playthrough. The result is exactly the same even if you get a unanimous guilty or not guilty vote anyway. It's more or less another minigame like drinking soda or racing.

>>16261973

how's about playing it and finding out instead of being a shitposting cuckchanner

>>>/v/16263289

remember to crosspost to not give him any (You)s

like this

>>16261988

Stop posting this faggot cat.

>>16263355

DS translation is better apparently, but the SNES translation had an interesting style worth seeing.

People like to shit on Woolsey now, but an anon did some research into him and realized that he did his best for being in a bad situation and produced some unique shit as a result.

>>16263412

Could you be more specific?

>>16263412

Giga Gaia?

It has arms for a reason. Kill the arms. It's a very safe assumption that if a boss has multiple parts you should be killing all the parts.

If you mean the weird alien Lavos Core, IIRC the left pod is the actual last boss, the alien and right pod are decoys. Again, kill all of the parts.

>>16263533

>spoiling the trick to the final boss

y tho

>>16263533

>>16263458

I don't even fucking remember, it's after you go after the queen bitch in that palace place, I haven't played it in MONTHS

>>16263412

Alternate with different element magics so it can't counter your attacks.

>>16263627

It's a 25 year old game. That middle guy dies in 2 hits so it's not exactly a game-changing twist when the fight doesn't end after 30 seconds.

>>16263695

yeah it's THAT nigger but I think it's the second one, like it looks identical but it's a palette swap or some shit and it's x1000000000000000 stronger

>>16263533

>Giga Giga

I must have attempted that fight 30 times before I won it. I was underleveled and not using flame resistant-gear. The fist 40 seconds are fucking frantic.

>>16263731

If it's the twins, get some ruby vests and have Lucca spam fire attacks.

>>16263763

>get some ruby vests

I'll give it a go next time I boot it

>>16262013

I did. The NG+ method is easiest. Winning the first battle against Lavos (which you are blatantly supposed to lose) is the hardest way to achieve it. I'm pretty sure the NG+ route was added in so there was an easier way to get the ending.

>>16262084

There were a lot of different endings you could collect with New Game Plus so that was interesting. Chrono Cross actually has a lot of branching content to make NG+ more tempting.

>>16262122

Avoiding battles is not recommended but you can avoid combat like crazy if you try and then run away from the rest. This makes boss fights a pain in the ass against your underleveled party though. Some people do it as a challenge run.

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1740/

For those who love the game but think it's too easy, I'd recommend a hack I played a while ago called "Chrono Trigger: Lavos Awakening". It's basically a hard mode/rebalance hack in which you will actually need to change your party comp to make some fights doable. Also, Dual and Triple techs are actually stronger and worth using over just spamming Singles, so that's a plus.

Too bad the hack doesn't work with the Japanese version, guess I'll have to play vanilla to see the original script.

Cross has such a great OST.

>>16264589

I tried playing one of these hacks awhile ago. The person who made just increased all of the enemy numbers, including the amount of experience points they gave so the characters leveled up like crazy which ended up just making the game easier. The guy also increased seemingly random enemies' hp to around 40,000.

>>16261973

>Grindfest

There's almost no way to grind and the game is so easy that you could probably beat it with no trouble even if you skipped not only the skippable fights, but also some of the ones that you're not supposed to skip. Hell, this removes the most hated feature of anybody who doesn't know what they're talking about, random encounters. So it's perfect for you, you fucking retard.

>>16264589

The romhack's description links to a dead forum for further details, but it turns out the forum has been migrated, so here's the fixed link:

http://ngplus.net/InsaneDifficultyArchive/www.insanedifficulty.com/board/indexfd7b.html?/forum/130-chrono-trigger-lavos-awakening/

Despite being titled as an "archive" it seems the forum is still fully functional and semi-active.

>>16267860

Insane difficulty died and was turned into an archive inside ngplus. There's some interesting hacks in there.I didn't link to it to avoid being accused of shilling or something

>>16261955

This was one of the first RPGs I think I ever played on the Super Nintendo, I mostly checked it out because of all the hype, although once I started playing and I actually wasn't that impressed and didn't really like it until I reached Zeal. Once that song played I was pretty much hooked, along with the weird inter-family drama stuff.

I honestly can't think of a better tragic villain in vidya I have played than Magus.

>introduced as the dick who turned Frog into a frog

>midway through the game you learn that he is from an ancient and advanced civilization

>his mother went mad trying to control Lavos

>loses his sister to Lavos as well

>gets flung into the future and is raised by villains

>wants power but only wants it so he may destroy Lavos

>Chrono ruins his plans to summon and destroy Lavos

>>16268894

>Chrono ruins his plans to summon and destroy Lavos

To his own luck though, since he'd just get absolutely destroyed at that point

>>16268909

What's with all the blank images?

At least we can all agree that Marle is best girl, right?

>>16269442

No Schala is.

Very good and memorable game despite me only beating it once. I think I might prefer Final Fantasy VI though.

>>16262902

I still need to beat Cross but what I played of it, which was at least one disc, I can't say its better. In fact it disappointed me back then since it seemed to have almost zero relation to the original. These days though I don't think that was necessarily too bad of a move. I have no wish to see the series even comeback though. They will just butcher it with action RPG combat since almost no developers want to touch turn based or atb with lined up characters type combat anymore. That crap is going to be ruining the FFVII remake.

>>16268632

>Insane difficulty died and was turned into an archive inside ngplus.

Oh. Now that I look at it there's a new board for the hack too: http://ngplus.net/index.php?/forums/forum/30-chrono-trigger-lavos-awakening/

Also, let it be known that ID has a better forum layout than NG+.

>There's some interesting hacks in there.

Link 'em, faggot. I WANT TO KNOW.

>I didn't link to it to avoid being accused of shilling or something

Starting a ROM Hacks thread is a-okay, for the record. No one will accuse you of trying to sell IPS patches, you know.

>>16268881

>This was one of the first RPGs I think I ever played on the Super Nintendo, I mostly checked it out because of all the hype, although once I started playing and I actually wasn't that impressed and didn't really like it until I reached Zeal.

Kingdom of Zeal is usually the break-out moment of Chrono Trigger.

>Once that song played I was pretty much hooked, along with the weird inter-family drama stuff.

CT has one hell of a good soundtrack. So does Chrono Cross, for that matter (same composer). It's "intra-family" though, not "inter-family." Inter-family is "between families" Intra-famiily is "inside the family"

>>16269442

Fun fact: Marle is often considered one of the worst party members in CT.

>>16269749

Schala is AWOL though. Marle has the only clue to finding her.

>>16269787

>Link 'em, faggot

You just did it yourself, just go to the forums section

>>16269749

Doesn't Ayla hug you if you have a party with her as the only girl when you reach that scene?

>>16269712

>In fact it disappointed me back then since it seemed to have almost zero relation to the original

Once you get closer to the end of the game, you'll wish it had nothing to do with the original.

>>16269822

Isn't Ayla fucking the little twink caveman?

>>16269822

>"If Marle is in your party, Marle hugs Crono. If Lucca is present and Marle isn't, then Lucca hugs Crono. If neither Marle nor Lucca are present, nobody hugs Crono."

Ayla doesn't

>>16269833

>Implying Ayla wouldn't fuck everyone in the party given the chance

>>16269787

Also, Marle is the worst character because she's a support character in a game that's too easy for you to need anything beyond a party heal (which she can only do with a dual tech, ironically). To contrast that, in the hack you linked she's pretty much needed for many of the boss fights (you're gonna need that Haste)

>>16269787

I thought Marle was awful until I tried using Haste more during a DS playthrough. Hasting is OP at times.

>>16269822

Not that I've seen. The ones that act with the Egg scene is either Marle, Lucca, or Frog. Frog is actually the first version I saw. He doesn't hug you; merely nods and mentions how blessed Crono is for having friends willing to go so far to revive him.

>>16269853

You're right, I think the third one is Frog. I know that if you have all three in the party the priority is Marle>Lucca>Frog. What if you go in with a Magus/Robo/Ayla party though? I don't think I ever did that.

>>16269817

I mean link the ones you find interesting. Fuck if I know which ones are trash and which ones are gold.

>>16269851

IIRC she is considered worst character because she has trash magic damage, trash physical damage, weak stats, and no party heal. It also helps that ranged attacks don't care for Power (4/3 Power is added to damage) and just use Hit (at 2/3) for damage, but Marle has the worst hit gain in the game (tied with Chrono, who uses Power as his damage stat, not Hit). In the hack I'm betting Marle's double techs are a lot more potent than the norm.

Personally I think Marle has some uses with the Siren's Kiss bow (Stop status OP) and "Provoke" tech (Confuse also OP) when enemies are vulnerable. Crono+Marle+Robo also has the crazy triple tech Lifeline (auto-revive on death for the whole party). Siren's Kiss falls off if you use Ayla and Robo though, since they can just Boogie and put Stop on all enemies. I think the Poyozo Dance triple tech (Marla+Ayla+Lucca) also does Confuse on the whole enemy team.

>>16269853

Haste is indeed the best buff in the game but later on you can just stick Haste Helms on everyone's heads instead of spending Marle's turns applying and reapplying haste.

>>16270007

>link the ones you find interesting

Besides the CT one, the Seiken Densetsu 3 one is gold, and the FF6 Brave New World is the highlight (I've actually lurked the development for years), I'm waiting for the 2.0 patch to be released to play it. Megaman X hardtype was also pretty good. Can't say anything about the others but I've heard good things about Monster Tactics (FFT)

>>16262773

it just looks for a few event flags concerning your interactions at the fair

>>16270147

>Megaman X hardtype was also pretty good.

Hardcore Mega Man X fan here (beaten every X game with no tanks an zero/minimal upgrades). This hack is a piece of shit. Just another retarded frustration hack from autistic ROMhackers that don't understand the first thing about fair challenge and pacing.

>>16270446

Well yeah, I forgot to say it's one of those. It's not for everyone I guess, I had my fun but I guess I wouldn't replay it. Still waiting for Corruption.

>>16269864

>What if you go in with a Magus/Robo/Ayla party though? I don't think I ever did that.

Robo becomes the one to use the egg in that scenario, judging by a script dump. It's the least likely scenario given that Magus is optional. I can't find any footage or pic of the scene, but the script for Robo reads:

We have all been waiting for you!

Marle and Lucca and…

Well, all of us!

>>16264589

Huh. That mod doesn't let you run away from battles. Because of that, I've resorted to stealth running through the game avoiding as many enemies as possible to see if I can reach The End of Time before level 10. It's quite interesting, really. I know you can run through Guardia Forest (both eras) without triggering encounters and pick up the tabs and it turns out you can actually dodge the entire corridor of fights leading up to Yakra's room. If you haven't stealthed through Chrono Trigger yet it's worth trying out. It's pretty fun. You can actually sneak past damn near anything in chrono trigger. Even a lot of the encounters that are triggered by walking somewhere can be avoided by carefully walking around the edges of the map and shit.

>>16273463

You're right, I forgot no running was a feature. And sneaking around is pretty fun, the guy who said most battles are unavoidable doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>16261973

Its your typical SNES JRPG with the exception of the main character being a dumb cunt that keeps fucking shit up via time travel and there is a bad ass frog. Its quality.

>>16261973

>>Whats so special about this game?

It was the pinnacle of its genre in its era. There could be a case made for a very select few other games, but even Final Fantasy 6 lacked the overall polish and consistency that Chrono Trigger had. At the time, it was a perfect storm. Of course a lot of it has been surpassed by the standards of the modern day, but at the time:

1) Big, colorful and expressive sprites, completely unmatched in its generation. Animations for movement and attacks were top of the line at the time, and the fact that all battles happened on the same map screen you walked around on made it feel more immersive.

2) Memorable, distinct locations and environments. Magus' castle, despite being relatively early in the game, felt like a true endgame dungeon, and was spoopy af. When you first pop into 10,000BC and you just see a snowy hellscape suffering under a permanent blizzard, and you feel lost and helpless, and then ZOOOM you're in Zeal, you have no frame of reference and it's mindblowing.

3) To this day some of the best music that has ever existed in a JRPG.

4) The time travel mechanics as they related to side quests were an interesting, pseudo-puzzle element that rewarded you for problem solving. Once you got the pendant to unlock the magical locked chests, you could find the latest point in history that a given chest showed up, open it, then go back in time and open it before you opened it, fucking with time and getting multiple items. Bringing Robo to Fiona to help her plant the forest in 600AD because he was the only party member who could survive 400 years of labor necessary to turn a desert green. All sorts of cool examples.

5) The incredible sense of ever-widening scope, reinforced throughout the game in various ways. A simple adventure to rescue a princess gets one small twist (time travel), but then expands into an effort to save the world from a threat that the main characters otherwise would have lived and died never knowing about, since it wouldn't happen until a thousand years after the end of their natural lives. This scope widens even further as they discover other villains from long-lost, forgotten civilizations who aided or empowered the lovecraftian big bad throughout history. It expands even further in the far future when we discover that eldritch horror is capable of reproduction, and that its spawn might somehow continue on to other worlds and destroy them as well. Even the ending theme, To Far Away Times, illustrates these themes of ever broadening scope. The music begins heroically, climaxes dramatically to symbolize the end of our heroes' journey, and then pulls back in the end credits to show the stars in space and quietly remind us that there is an infinite vastness beyond us, and beyond the small story of these people living on this one singular rock in space.

>>16274120

What's wrong with Chaz's face?

>>16274120

I understand there is no force in this universe stronger than nostalgia, but if you pretend to be retarded long enough, you eventually wind up retarded for real.

>>16274070

Super Mario RPG > Chrono Trigger

>>16274343

>There could be a case made for a very select few other games

SMRPG is one of those select other games

>>16274343

>Super Mario RPG > Chrono Trigger

Super Mario RPG doesn't have any fuckable characters.

>>16274380

It does have Peach, but yeah CT is better overall

>>16274380

>prioritizing sexual arousal like a primate over gameplay quality

They're both great games but you're nigger-tier if you put a game higher than the other because you're a good fucking goy that falls for sex selling. fucking mindless masses.

>>16274120

except that game was mediocre at best and you're being a pretentious hipster faggot for thinking thats better

>>16273640

I have to grind up $$$ without combat though and I need to be geared enough that my underleveled ass can win the unavoidable battles. I managed to get a Lode Sword before leaving porre simply from repetitively grinding races for points which I converted into cash. With that cash I geared up and stacked up on some tonics and revives and a few shelters. In the cathedral run you want to avoid going out of your way to collect loot. This lets you skip more combat. After you rescue the queen, you can just backtrack to the cathedral and all the enemies are gone, making it easy pickings for loot. Then in the prison you can actually reset the execution guards by running all the way left to the room after the 4way room and then running back right where the guards are. Sneaking up on a guard lets you 1HKO them and loot a mid tonic off of them. Got 99 mid tonics off of them (make sure to loot the supervisor first for 5 mid tonics though). Going from the top makes it easier to grind 1HKO mid tonics.

Combat's definitely much better now. I find myself being careful about avoiding counterattacks and trying to match my attacks to the enemies' weaknesses. So far I rather like this mod. Chrono Trigger's a lot more fun than I remember it being.

And the stealth run is pretty surprising. There are very few points where you are actually forced into combat. It seems like during development at some point they decided to make enemies way the fuck easier or more rewarding to make it more kid-friendly because they went out of their way to make stealth runs an option, which suggests to me that originally gratuitous combat was meant to be somewhat undesirable.

Incidentally, early sewer run is suicide with mod now. You can grab a 600gp chest without entering combat but aside from that you are just forced into enemies that 1HKO you and you cannot run either so it's pretty much impossible (unless you either grind your levels up something absurd or save it for later). I know that originally sewer run was a total joke at the time you actually need to do it but I feel like something went awry in the design here now that the sewer is basically available but impassable.

BTW: Ribbit Spekkio (the one you get before level 10) is a complete joke. He does ridiculously weak damage and he dies in a couple of quick taps. Trash mobs in 2300AD are harder than him. I feel like he hasn't been re-tuned for the mod.

>>16274525

/pol/ language aside, this.

>>16274553

You were doing a stealth run just for the hell of it or was it for frog Spekkio? I'd wager they just ignored him since you won't ever see that form unless you specifically avoid leveling up. Also if you keep that up you're going to need to grind A LOT, since this mod expects you to be capped for lategame (the late game enemies will have something like 4x exp to compensate for this though).

Sewers were remade as a late-game area so yeah, it feels kinda awkward since I always go there the first chance to get the tab on Death peak, but that's really the only part I felt was strange with the mod.

>>16274669

>You were doing a stealth run just for the hell of it or was it for frog Spekkio?

For Frog Spekkio mostly. Not sure if I should continue going stealth route or not. It does seem fun.

>I'd wager they just ignored him since you won't ever see that form unless you specifically avoid leveling up.

For some reason he drops a PicoMagnum gun every time you beat him now, so the modder did do something to him. Those guns sell for 900gp each btw. With a bit of autistic Spekkio grinding I could probably start affording Medina village items. And Lucca is a surprisingly decent bruiser with a PicoMagnum.

The later Spekkio forms don't drop loot though.

>Also if you keep that up you're going to need to grind A LOT, since this mod expects you to be capped for lategame (the late game enemies will have something like 4x exp to compensate for this though).

That should make for some crazy cash if you use a Workman's Wallet. But you can't get those early in the SNES edition, sadly. By the time you have a Workman's Wallet I don't think there is any super loot you can splurge cash for left.

>>16274841

I'd say it won't be very fun since you pretty much would need to grind at every boss, so it'll get tiring quickly.

Also something I remembered, when you get the recharged pendant and can visit those Zeal ruins in Medina (1000 A.D I think, the blue pyramid), the weapon is actually a viable choice now since it got buffed, in vanilla there's no reason not to go for the helmet.

>>16274553

Forgot to mention this but if you're doing a stealth run it's better to wait for execution so Lucca bails you out and joins your party and then backtrack for everything. It makes the unavoidable combats easier, and the Omnicrone battle you get after looting the chest room to the right of Crono's cell will oneshot an underleveled Crono so if you're solo that's auto-lose. You could also just bust out solo with Crono, skip the room, go all the way to the supervisor where Lucca joins you, and then backtrack for the chest room now that you can beat the Omnicrone.

>>16274669

>Sewers were remade as a late-game area so yeah, it feels kinda awkward since I always go there the first chance to get the tab on Death peak, but that's really the only part I felt was strange with the mod.

The Nereids also drop 100gp each, so it's possible to grind Nereids for gold. I once wasted time fucking around in early sewers and when I reached Medina village I was surprised to notice that their merchant wares were actually affordable.

>>16275006

>I'd say it won't be very fun since you pretty much would need to grind at every boss, so it'll get tiring quickly.

I dunno. I've done a lot of crazy grinding. I'm not sure I've ever done a run before where I didn't grind the prehistoric Nu asap until I maxed out all techs on all my characters. Grinding doesn't appeal to me all that much, but breaking the game in half does. And sometimes a bit of grind is necessary to get a leg up. The mid tonic grind proved necessary for the boss fight that followed. And the early grind for a Lode Sword also made a difference against Yakra and the rest.

>Also something I remembered, when you get the recharged pendant and can visit those Zeal ruins in Medina (1000 A.D I think, the blue pyramid), the weapon is actually a viable choice now since it got buffed, in vanilla there's no reason not to go for the helmet.

What happened to the sword? Is it better than the rainbow now? It's damn shame that there isn't a list of changes the mod made from the original game.

Also: Been fucking around with status ailments. Goddamn a lot of shit is immune to Sleep and Chaos, but not everything, and usually not the same things, but Nereids are immune to both. I'm going to have to find out what's immune to Slow and Stop later. I don't think there's a guide on monster immunities to status effects. Seems no one really uses them, but they actually come in handy now that the monsters are harder, once you figure out which ones are vulnerable, that is.

>>16277236

Mods, when you delete that comment, please do not be so stupid as to delete all tor posts from the thread.

>>16274380

B'scuse me?

https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=geno

>>16261955

>>16261973

And that's what it is and faggots love that shit.

Fuck faggots.

Dragon Quest III for the snes is to this day the best jrpg ever made. Chrono Trigger is a "Cinematic Experience" compared to Dragon Quest III that has actual RPG elements in it.

>>16277414

Play the hardmode hack from >>16264589 It makes combat surprisingly decent and fun. The encounters are rebalanced in a way that actually makes you think about the enemies instead of needing to spam more damage.

>>16277456

A bit odd. Chrono Cross and Chrono Trigger are different games, really. I liked CC. It's fun, especially given the replayability and branching content it offers (and of course the soundtrack), but it was also a mess of bad writing and mismatched plot threads and story ambitions. I think the whole Leena vs Kid thing is just one case of egregiously bad writing where they didn't think through what the fuck they were doing. The end-game also goes fucking stupid in terms of narrative. I'm guessing they were rushed or shit. The game has a fuckhuge cast (which is cool) but underutilizes all of them except for Kid (who is a jarringly out of place spotlight hog showing up for the cutscenes if you decide to go through Chrono Cross without ever recruiting her into your party).

I think the soundtrack carries Chrono Cross a really long way. Otherwise it wouldn't be nearly as fun.

>>16277231

Man that Nu, I've abused that to hell and back as well. Nowadays I make a point to only kill him once for the accessory but I can never resist to farm at least a bit, it's so much ap.

The sword from the ruins isn't better than the rainbow no, but it's the best sword you'll get for a while if you get it (as opposed to being almost immediately replaced). Of course the helm isn't bad either, it'll make you think a little before you pick your choice.

And yeah status ailments are useful, always try them out.

>>16274263

>>16274533

Chrono Trigger & Phantasy Star IV were both carried by excellent stories. Anyone that wants to rave on the gameplay are massive idiots.

>>16261955

Some nigger ruined the ending for me, but I still feel like playing it, is it worth playing when you know the ending?

>>16278163

Why do you care about the ending of a SNES RPG with a big bad everyone knows about? Besides, it's not like the heroes wouldn't win over the villain you're introduced to in the first two hours of gameplay.

Chrono Trigger is fun because of all the neat environments you go through and the advancement of humanity you see over the centuries. Don't worry about the ending.

>>16278103

The prehistoric grind can also give you some solid loot and cash for the Medina shop iirc. You're told to get on with the main quest in a hurry but there's actually nothing stopping you from detouring for the prehistoric grind. It's a damn shame that there are no more super shops when you get the wallet in the SNES version. Also I'm wondering if I can do Sewers once I recruit Ayla. You can charm a ton of barriers off of the factory with her.

Side note: I just realized there is no triple tech for Marle + Ayla + Robo. More's the pity.

>The sword from the ruins isn't better than the rainbow no, but it's the best sword you'll get for a while if you get it (as opposed to being almost immediately replaced). Of course the helm isn't bad either, it'll make you think a little before you pick your choice.

Eh, I figure I'd still pick the helm in that case. I tend to put a premium on staying alive in this mod. He should put something like +10 magic on that sword I reckon.

>>16278157

The romhack listed in this thread (>>16264589) goes a surprising length towards remedying weak gameplay. Also stealth runs are surprisingly fun.

>>16278163

Chrono Trigger is definitely one of those games more about the journey than the ending. And the Chrono Trigger endboss is spoiled really early in the game, tbh. That's how he becomes the characters' main quest.

>>16278433

Well you can always savestate and check the states on both items before choosing

>>16278465

I was curious and went to check the weapon from the ruins (it's called the Swallow), it gives a juicy +3 speed and the attack is higher than the Shiva edge you get at the ruins (Frog's sidequest where you power up the Masamune), the Rainbow barely has an edge in attack (and has that crit boost), but no speed bonus which will be important until you can farm speed tabs at least. So yeah, its definitely something to consider, even though the safe helm is probably the safe bet no pun intended

>>16278433

>The romhack listed in this thread

That's cute. But it doesn't alter my point even slightly. "Users fix the game" doesn't change the base game.

>>16278781

Why so salty anon? He didn't argue against your point, just suggested the hack to you.

>>16278805

>Salty

Telling it like it is.

>>16262077

>>16274120

SJW Star is feminist schlock. The first ones are complete shit, and even the fourth was such a snorefest I never made it off the first planet. It doesn't even hold a candle to FFIV, let alone CT.

>>16262774

No. Go play your Galo and Cawadooky Xbox games zoomer faggot.

>>16269712

It actually has a terribly convoluted relation to the original running through the whole plot.

>>16274070

The real horror is humanity. Humans only evolved because of Lavos. They are just as much lavosspawn and just as potentially destructive. Reptites are the rightful rulers of the planet.

>>16278781

I guess the question is whether you are interested in playing decent games or whether you are just interested in shitting on things. If it's the latter, then yeah, grats, you've made your case. If it's the former, then modding should not be a problem to you.

>>16278716

The original raises speed by 3 too. So it's got what, around 200 attack and no crit? +3 speed is the exact amount to cap out Chrono's speed though. Otherwise you're looking at accessories or speed tabs. In the case of Lucca, the Taban armors raise her speed too. I think you can cap out speed either way though. You can get 28 speed tabs without doing ultimate spekkio, but that early in the game you won't get too many speed tabs. You can get the sword before you get your Wings of Time so that gives you a godly weapon to run through an arc or two (counting the rainbow mission), hm. If you spam shield consumables, the safe helm wouldn't matter anyway.

I guess it depends on how hard you want to go on the zeal run. Then again you can get safe helms off of the ocean palace anyway, although you'll probably be gearing haste helms at that point.

>>16274159

a mix of grim determination and being 15 or so

Rika's face is more disturbing. looking like it was poorly photoshopped on

>>16280642

>Phantasy Star

>SJW

>feminist schlock

damn, I feel trolled

>>16286974

He was trying to push that in another thread too.

>>16286938

Yup, crit also doesn't matter if you're only using techs, that's why it's so good. I read on a thread that the guy was worried he buffed the sword too much but figured it was a fair trade since you had to sacrifice a safe helm. Also I didn't remember the original also gave 3 speed.

By the way, the Slasher 2 you steal from Slash in the Ozzie fort sidequest is the highest attack weapon for Crono now IIRC (doesn't give speed though).

>>16290410

Frog and Magus were my least used characters. My main squadmates were usually

>max damage output team

>crono

>ayla

>robo

Or

>all female team

>marle

>lucca

>ayla

>>16261973

To be honest if it came out today it would be seen as only a somewhat above average indie RPG with an 8-bit style.

But it didn't come out today, it came out 25 years ago. And that's what makes it special. For its time it was an absolutely groundbreaking spectacular jRPG and one of the first games to showcase that a console game could have a story that is even better than what you normally see at the theater.

TL;DR Chrono trigger gets extra attention for being one of the original gangsters. There are many other jRPG titles out there now that arguably surpass it, BUT there is a solid chance that many of those titles would not even exist if Chrono Trigger didn't exist.

Classics earn a special pass simply for being influential.

>>16290259

By the time you can get Slasher 2 you can max out speed with tabs anyway. There are accessories that boost speed too, but if you can do it with tabs you can wear another accessory instead. Just how high is Slasher 2's damage and how are other characters keeping up?

>>16291636

Dunno, I'm just speaking from memory

>>16290934

>a console game could have a story that is even better than what you normally see at the theater.

Do you know why movies based on books, television series, games, and comics are worse than the source material? It's not because the medium is any less sophisticated or simply inferior. It's just that there's a huge wall of material that can't be covered in the one-to-three hours that a single movie has to work with. You have a chance to get to know the characters and appreciate the situations with all those other mediums.

>>16277231

>It makes the unavoidable combats easier, and the Omnicrone battle you get after looting the chest room to the right of Crono's cell will oneshot an underleveled Crono so if you're solo that's auto-lose.

Oddly enough you can actually sneak past the two shield guys by walking exactly between them.

>>16291822

Gotcha.