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File: af5b7fdc4c1c732⋯.jpg (238.81 KB, 1280x853, 1280:853, PS4.jpg)

File: fcfc386c8569f6d⋯.jpg (125.83 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, PS4 disc install time.jpg)

b94a31  No.16128509

Today just got a PS4 for free, my cousin got bored of it and give it to me for free with RDR2 and two controllers.

I haven't played a console since the PS3.

Boot it up, internet connection, system update, system update ok.

Now I put in the fucking disc, start it. Oh fucking wow, ONE HOUR (((COPYING DATA))) from disc. ONE FUCKING HOUR, around 36GB! Now I need to go to the storage, make some free space (only 400GB, and surprise, fucking Horizon: After Dawn, a shit game my cousin probably bought, is 60GB). FUCKING WOW. And guess what? After you (((copy data))), you still need the fucking disc to start it!

Turn it off, call the fucking cop, whoever sell this shit is a fucking criminal, how is this any different than a fucking gimped PC with the fucking disc as the DRM?

How can anyone faggot seriously pay for console and console games in the current year?

335020  No.16128519

>updating a console's firmware


5a3d07  No.16128532

File: 613e202a01ecec4⋯.jpg (192.93 KB, 700x394, 350:197, soylent.jpg)

um sweetie, everyone knows gaming PCs need to cost like 1000 dollars to be as strong as my $350 console :)

ugh, who even uses pc nowadays anyway??? they're big and bulky and just outdated… my mac laptop is faster and i can carry it everywhere!


b94a31  No.16128533

>>16128519

Who gives a shit?

inb4 not crackable

I'm not gonna play it.


f316b8  No.16128580

>>16128533

Because it's pretty insane what the modern jailbreaking communities manage to do and you should've allowed it that potential (PS4 scene isn't mature yet but it will likely get there). If it was over 5.05 though it was already ruined.


b94a31  No.16128655

>>16128580

It was 5.5.


f316b8  No.16128665

>>16128655

Then you're in the clear, sort of. It is still possible that some other vuln gets independently discovered by Sony and fixed before the hacking scene find it, but that's not common and they likely have bigger priorities than auditing their code.


b94a31  No.16128669

>>16128665

I don't care either ways, PS4 really has no game except maybe Bloodborne.

It's just a gimped PC.


8ec6b1  No.16128675

>bing bing wahoo only has like 32gb native storage, so the moment you go digital and factor in about over 100 games of updates, you're forced to get an sd card

>even with an sd card, install times are long and there's no way around it

>without the ethernet adapter, download times are even longer

even pirating all the games for the bing bing wahoo is almost not worth the time


b94a31  No.16128678

>>16128675

Man, the PS4 at least feels like a gimped PC, I imagine the Switch must feel like a fucking toy.


8ec6b1  No.16128683

>>16128678

yeah except my games aren't censored to hell, so there's that


b94a31  No.16128687

>>16128683

Uh, yes, they are.


f316b8  No.16128692

>>16128687

Sony is Hell, Nintendo is Purgatory. But it's also illustrative of what can be accomplished under restrictions, and it was only a few months ago Sony had borderline porn. Switch is looking to be the successor in that regard.


000000  No.16128699

>>16128509

Find people that can reverse engineer it and speed up a compatible emulator for it, just to spite Soyny.


b94a31  No.16128704

>>16128699

It's not needed since most PS4 games are on PC.

Consoles are dying.


7eb09a  No.16128715

>>16128704

>most PS4 games are on PC

all PS1, PS2, PSP and PS3 games are on PC tbh


51c3d5  No.16128717

>>16128509

>(((COPYING DATA)))

What? How is reducing loading times of optical disk storage units Jewish?


b0d15f  No.16128718

File: bbb3f404e900e32⋯.jpg (244.39 KB, 1060x1192, 265:298, 54f10aef30454588b03c356bbd….jpg)

>>16128509

>He fell for the Gaystation exclusive meme.

I try to warn people by shitposting in Sony threads but shit like this still happens.

OP probably sunk money into this thing and is only saying it was free to cover up the pain and regret


34bf52  No.16128726

Can cuckchan get more obvious than this?


b0d15f  No.16128728

File: 826b725dc8e7736⋯.jpg (1.14 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, Todd.jpg)

>ONE HOUR COPYING DATA from disc. ONE FUCKING HOUR, around 36GB!

This got me thinking, what if the next PlayStation or Xbox launches without a CD player?

Would be interesting see the console-war faggots doing mental gymnastics about it.


a615ab  No.16128734

>>16128580

>>16128533

>>16128655

>>16128665

Never update firmware. Hackers always have exploits they keep secret. With the Switch, a few were only released after Nintendo had patched them out on their own. As soon as an exploit is released to the public, it will be patched ASAP. There are still several exploits alluded to that they keep under wraps, hoping they carry over to the upcoming hardware.

Never ever update, unless you've already hacked it and it's confirmed multiple times that it's safe. You have no idea what exploits you might miss out on.


f316b8  No.16128739

>>16128734

If the hackers are keeping it secret then it's only getting broken if Sony independently re-discover it. Fusée Gelée was an exception only because of what devices were affected by it, that it needed responsible disclosure on principle.


7a8313  No.16128753

Its literally only rdr2 that does that. Enjoy your rockstar soytrash.


51c3d5  No.16128754

>>16128728

Correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik there is no better/cheaper alternative to BlueRay yet and you could technically just buy digital games on console too. Also, Red Dead Redemption 2 is 90GB. 20 minutes for 30GB isn't that much honestly.

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP1004-CUSA03041_00-REDEMPTION000002


8bd317  No.16128953

at least now you don't have to buy a new $1000 gpu every year just to be able to play few years late console ports, faggot

consoles > pc


3b2f18  No.16128977

File: cd13810cb7c49f0⋯.jpg (35.17 KB, 532x470, 266:235, cd13810cb7c49f0c8662641f1d….jpg)

Maybe not next generation but the one after it will definitely be exclusively on cloud.


5a3d07  No.16128986

>>16128953

>a new $1000 gpu every year

I bought a $300 GPU in 2013 and I won't have to upgrade for the next 4 years, anon.


09be95  No.16129007

>>16128986

Bought mine for 265.84$ after shipping back in '15. Only reason I'm thinking of upgrading is I'll have some spare money this year.


f919bc  No.16129074

File: 4d128ce0128fd18⋯.jpg (25.53 KB, 460x432, 115:108, 4d128ce0128fd1890de2a0349c….jpg)

sell it for money and get better hardware for your PC unless you really like bloodborne and god of soy


25c6de  No.16129121

File: e0fc62b794b0f6e⋯.jpg (180.43 KB, 850x1183, 850:1183, 8eda5a3e94b861006e572f6db4….jpg)

>>16128509

<Children and sports players (not like that can keep alive a whole console)

However those kids mostly play with their phones

Console market will crash, the question is only when


80640f  No.16129162

I was going to point out that on the Switch all you have to do is put the cart in and play, but people here hate nintendo with a passion, they might get their pants twisted.


04b7d5  No.16129195

Load times are already shitty, loading off of blu ray would suck.

>>16128754

nothing feasibly or readily available on the market. Some new stuff is coming around but the hurdle of blu ray speeds being addressed would be more valuable for consumers than retard amounts of storage.


b7d2dd  No.16129202

File: 8c1daeed12da0f9⋯.png (1.02 MB, 1396x785, 1396:785, miz.png)

>>16128509

>How can anyone faggot seriously pay for console and console games in the current year?

Ask your cousin.


4c1b84  No.16129221

File: 127ccf0d45043cf⋯.png (2.13 MB, 1400x1950, 28:39, __if_choujigen_game_neptun….png)

>>16129121

Take a higher res IF


f85ffe  No.16129312

>How can anyone faggot seriously pay for console and console games in the current year?

They're either over 30 years old or tech illiterate, sometimes both.


9467d4  No.16129334

File: 55910c0b7db3bb5⋯.jpg (35.11 KB, 400x346, 200:173, this-thread-again-Good-Gri….jpg)

>thinly veiled console/pc war thread


315e5f  No.16129854

File: 732490eea1cf717⋯.jpg (14 KB, 540x304, 135:76, tumblr_pjje1wCGQV1vq7926_5….jpg)

File: c99a7e0f176256f⋯.jpg (77.52 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, kXDesa1-asset-mezzanine-16….jpg)

>>16129074

>Posting soysauce


5b3957  No.16129864

If you want to be clear and fucking honest, OP, the PC is getting far too pricey for its own good. The only ones who deny this are H4RDC0R3 M45TER R4C3 faggots that still believe the PC can compete with dedicated hardware.

Yes, there are certain games such as the Redditcher 3, where the PC version is superior. But lets be real: playing games on PC is no where near what it was in the late '90s and early '00s. Mods are dead, matchmaking has replaced dedicated servers and hackers are still a big problem, even in games that claim to "not allow third-party programs to interfere with the .exe".

Let's not forget: DRM.

DRM is a huge fucking issue and anyone who says it isn't is either a child or a genuine fucking idiot. The core hivemind that supports it is on PC, primarily Steam.

And while digital distribution is easier and more convenient, it has thoroughly ruined the market.

So no, PC is not superior. Only manchildren and elitest faggots who have nothing to prove still cling to that mentality.


6c893b  No.16129957

>>16129864

You could argue from a social standpoint the most active multiplayer games for online connectivity over the internet with random people would be consoles.

But if you are suggesting buying a PS4/xbone so that you can play 7 generations of backlogged games via emulator is a good idea, you are wrong. That would be because it is better to be able to easily modify both the software and hardware of the pc/console for the specifc game system you are emulating both for saving money via the powerbill and pirating those emulated games without a hardware/software lockout like on disc DRM. Not only that but you can still play single player games better on the PC then on a console because even if there are no mods for it, you can make the mods and have fun by yourself.

But yes, if you are playing post 7th gen games for multiplayer then the best way outside of dedicated servers of private friends is to use a console to play with faggot nobodies or the A.I as there is more of that then dedicated servers with friends.


25c6de  No.16130068

>>16129221

^.^ Much appreciated

>>16129957

/thread/


b94a31  No.16130156

>>16128717

If you already copy data, why do you even need the disk?


b94a31  No.16130174

>>16129864

I have consoles and PC are superior.

Consoles are fucking DRM.


aa76d8  No.16130210

>>16128675

Just got a Switch, downloading updates is a bit slow but it's not slow enough to piss me off. I'm not a faggot who buys DLC or digital games like you so I don't have to worry about any of that.


7ade8e  No.16130216

>>16128509

I'm sure the Xbox 360 had long disc install times as well, and you still had to have the disc in the console to run the game.


3a1a26  No.16130250

File: 04eb588705ccae1⋯.jpg (77.83 KB, 1200x883, 1200:883, 1230660779.jpg)

>>16128509

>get free console with newest game

>come online to complain like a spoiled brat

>thinking this thread would end in your favor in any way

fuck you fag. give it to someone who will appreciate it


b94a31  No.16130277


ced6f7  No.16130294

>>16130216

the 360 didn't have install from disk. Without blu-ray this install everything bullshit was unnecessary, thanks Sony.


7ade8e  No.16130317

File: 8bd769927261288⋯.png (36.73 KB, 841x747, 841:747, Install_From_Disc.png)

>>16130294

You had me think twice.


0dcf59  No.16130356

>>16128509

>gimped PC

it's worse than that, anon. It's a fucking walled garden.


ced6f7  No.16130384

>>16130317

that wasn't very common, really became a thing when digital download on XbLive started, I have more than a dozen X360 games and I don't recall having to install anything. Shit I couldn't fit everything on the HDD; I bought one in '06 with the 20Gb drive and never upgraded.


f85ffe  No.16130402

>>16130356

More like a walled junkyard


7dfeca  No.16130539

because not everyone knows about (((them))) anon


5971f8  No.16130568

>>16130294

>>16130384

It always had it, it was just optional.


8ed550  No.16130580

>>16130317

Installing a game was optional on the 360 for faster load times and it wasn't even an option before a certain year.


4ddb7b  No.16130627

Console pros:

No requirement to install Windows 10 and a bunch of other horseshit on your computer.

No worries about having your game soundtracks gutted due to future jewery.

Games are still physical, and can be re-sold for a decent amount, so long as they're not Cowadoody or some other yearly-refresh pile of disposabullshit.

Consoles can normally be cracked to allow you to play games for free, but it's best if you get a system and keep it offline and do NOT install any updates that are on game discs, to make hacking easier when a method is released for a particular hardware or firmware revision.

Typically excellent gamepads

Console cons:

Completely under the thumb of MS, Sony, and Nintendo until the system is cracked open.

Low quality textures, low resolution, low framerate, and no way to upgrade the hardware or change the settings to improve the performance.

Still no mouse & keyboard support for most games, or even the goddamn web browsers in most cases.

Limited to mainly AAA bullshit.

Censorship is increasing with almost no way to circumvent it until this fucking war goes hot.

PC pros:

You're as free as you want to be, and not limited to video games and media player functions.

Modify damn near everything, not limited to the games you will play.

Source ports for the lucky few older games that autists loved so much that they either reverse engineered the source, or knew what to do with it when it was publicly released.

Absolutely any input device made in the past 30 years can be used, with a little effort.

Modular upgrade options, with secondhand parts available for those on a tight budget.

For the time being, cracking groups still exist to remove the intrusive DRM malware from popular (?) titles, so even if you prefer to pay for games, you can buy the game and install the cracked version for the best of both worlds.

PC cons:

Pretty much every processor and motherboard made since 2010 has MASSIVE hardware backdoors in them, and slightly older hardware only marginally less so.

Arbitrary OS restrictions on many games prevent you from running them without source ports, if you choose not to use Windows 10 (Linux is improving in game compatibility rapidly)

Significant learning curve for neophytes seeking to become proficient.

Constant revelations about some ideologue group putting malware in software, even if it's open source, requiring knowledge and time to scan the code of everything you're compiling from even trusted sources.

Almost no reason to build a beastly computer unless you like playing poorly-optimized AAA trash, not that this isn't the case on consoles.


d71cba  No.16130660

>>16128977

This is pretty much guaranteed at some point.


d71cba  No.16130670

>>16130627

You forgot the best and only truly important part of PC pro, while blows away everything on your entire list.

PC lets you emulate and play thousands of old games for free. This and gaming modding are the only reasons to get PC over consoles. And you didn't even mention gaming modding either…


a2785f  No.16130677

File: 31d6a3a557d2f4a⋯.jpg (33.02 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 51HR9WAH3AL.jpg)

>>16130568

>It always had it, it was just optional.

No, that was a feature added about half-way into the 360's lifespan when they launched Games on Demand (digital marketplace). The first batches of Xboxes didn't even have hard drives on some models, and even the ones that did have hard drives were utterly anemic. Like, 20gb total. It was so small, Microsoft had to put a hard limit on the size of Xbox Live Arcade titles to something like 200MB. It was kind of a big deal when Microsoft finally lifted that restriction. All of this was inexcusable since the mainline model with the HDD cost $100 more than the "core" system without a HDD, meanwhile years earlier Square-Enix had launched a FFXI/HDD bundle for $80 which included a 40GB HDD.


5971f8  No.16130695

>>16130677

I had one of the ones that came without a HDD, and didn't bother getting a HDD for it until much later, so I thought that installing games to the HDD was something that it always had that I just couldn't do because I didn't have a HDD at the time. Thanks for the correction.


d67750  No.16131156

>>16128509

Not gonna lie, it's pretty fucked up, OP. It's become so frustrating to me personally, that I kinda wanna just sell my Ps4 Pro & Switch atm and go buy a fucking DS lite & Gamecube so I don't have to deal with this garbage anymore lol. PC emulation is always too big a hassle for me, btw.


4ddb7b  No.16131293

>>16130670

>And you didn't even mention gaming modding either…

>>16130627

>Modify damn near everything, not limited to the games you will play.


ff81d7  No.16131304

>>16130156

So you can't just borrow the game from someone, and then play it for free forever?


d2a509  No.16131305

>>16130670

problem is emulation is inferior so there's no point unless you're a massive casual with no standards.


e47ebd  No.16131317

>>16128675

>so the moment you go digital

Your fault, pal, not the console's.


4ddb7b  No.16131335

File: a8e8c523476e269⋯.jpg (406.7 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, Check out my video game co….jpg)

>>16131305

Nothing wrong with emulation, and I say this with a twelve thousand dollar game collection spanning from the 2600 through the PS4. Game collecting is a fool's errand. Thankfully, I changed what I was collecting a while back, and only pick up the odd game that catches my eye anymore.


d2a509  No.16131339

>>16131335

That's cool, I'm talking about playing games not collecting them. Emulation is worse even with all the gimmicks and shit stapled on to it.


4ddb7b  No.16131360

>>16131339

Kinda' hard to play games without emulating if you aren't collecting at some level, now isn't it? Unless you buy one console and rent everything, then sell the system. Also all of that filter bullshit is entirely optional.


d2a509  No.16131363

>>16131360

Why is it every emunigger pretends flash carts and back up loading doesn't exist for pretty much every system? Pretending to be retarded isn't a good position to take.


05b0fb  No.16131404

File: b0cad85a9aef8bc⋯.gif (67.23 KB, 200x200, 1:1, beeinbluesquare.gif)

>>16131335

>hudsonsoft multitap


f85ffe  No.16131424

>>16130627

>No requirement to install Windows 10 and a bunch of other horseshit on your computer.

Stoppedreading right there


2ca9b8  No.16131427

File: 710de9852226474⋯.mp4 (589.5 KB, 220x400, 11:20, getting banned.mp4)

>>16128509

OP bought a ps4 and came up with the story so we don't bully him nearly as much.

He also has a PS3.

OP is a faggot and his thread is shit, same for anyone who didn't sage.


b9c690  No.16131443

>>16131363

>>16131339

>>16131305

Go scalp some hipsters


74d4f6  No.16131448

holy fuck, you're entitled

just go thank your cousin for the gift instead of acting like a spoiled brat and going "MUH COUSIN PLAYED SHIT GAMES"


d2a509  No.16131464

>>16131443

I am. Already got one scalp, yours is next.


f316b8  No.16131472

>>16131363

Sometimes. SD2SNES can't play all games and has to emulate all co-processors. Disc-based systems are just a pain. Even with digital systems their copying standards don't start out perfect. Emulators for older systems can also be used on portable devices. It's always about tradeoffs, not that one is strictly better than the other.


d2a509  No.16131482

>>16131472

> SD2SNES can't play all games

it can, your information is out of date. All co-processors are now emulated through FPGA ensuring cycle accuracy down to the very last hertz.

>Disc-based systems are just a pain

There's a handful of solutions for each system, more being made available in time. The PS1 has Unirom, a slew of inexpensive mod chips that require amateur soldering skills, PSIO, and other techniques. The Sega CD has no copy protection.

>It's always about tradeoffs

In one case it's do you want higher resolution that disregards the resolution the game was tailored for? Do you want it because your display can only resolve one resolution and just want to casually consume all types of media? Do you understand the losses and unpleasant qualities presented when images are stretched, 2D assets especially? Are the average load times of CD based consoles (5-30 seconds) a long time to wait? Is playing the game as it was shipped with the original controller on the correct display that presents the image with no artifacts a big enough benefit for the trade off of having to pop in a burned disc?

You decide, the benefits are clear as day between them, whichever is more convenient for you might be what you like, but some people don't like to settle for cheap results because it's easy.


f316b8  No.16131525

>>16131482

>it can

It's closer. SA1 was only added a few months back but there's still a couple unimplemented, and it's still based on emulation even if it's an FPGA. Mind, I STRONGLY prefer it to the alternative which is those flash cards that rip the co-processor out of a real cartridge.

>but some people don't like to settle for cheap results because it's easy

Cool your jets. For actually playing a game emulation usually does fine. I've also got enough clutter including several more recent consoles that I don't need more of them just for the 1:1 experience.

Also if there's one console that is really old and not emulateable, it's the Vectrex. No emulator can really capture the way vector displays look.


d2a509  No.16131561

File: 5d49aba28f96f2c⋯.png (37.78 KB, 703x745, 703:745, ClipboardImage.png)

File: c2cf15322d32190⋯.png (1.42 MB, 960x720, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16131525

It can't play all games, my mistake. This is all it can't play. Everything else is good. It's fascinating that your first example is the SNES, a system with almost as many games as it has co-processors that need to have support added for them, it's a complicated beast. Something the most iconic emutranny of all, Byuu, still hasn't gotten right in Higan and actually had to damage control over a FPGA based console outdoing him.

> For actually playing a game emulation usually does fine

nah

>No emulator can really capture the way vector displays look.

nope, but the good news is there's vector kits for CRTs being made that can convert standard raster CRTs to vector ones, it's cool stuff. Even with colors.


f85ffe  No.16131666

>>16131482

>In one case it's do you want higher resolution that disregards the resolution the game was tailored for?

What resolution was Resident Evil 2 SourceNext tailored for?

Answer me that


d2a509  No.16132570

>>16131666

>The BIOHAZARD 2 SOURCENEXT 2006 Port which includes high quality uncompressed FMVs and better compatibility support, but is known for lacking custom or higher resolution features while also lacking a settings fronted

whichever one it was locked at idiot


a53890  No.16132699

>>16128509

>I haven't played a console since the PS3

Seems like you didn't play the PS3 either. MGS4 required a long-ass disc download before playing, and it released 10 years ago. Other games do the same, only one I remember is Resident Evil 5.

This shit exists because a disc drive isn't fast enough to stream assets and things in real time. Older DVD and CD drives were also slow, but the assets were smaller (or compressed) so the transfer rate was fine.

>a fucking gimped PC with the fucking disc as the DRM?

The disc isn't the DRM here, the console itself is. You can only complain about DRM once you can run applications not licensed by Sony (aka once you escape the walled garden).


42b574  No.16132730

>>16130294

Blu-Rays can be just as fast, if not faster, then a DVD drive. The only reason this meme exists is because Sony used a slow 2x drive in the PS3.


f85ffe  No.16132739

>>16132570

My point is that it's the same as the Gamecube version which was higher than previous versions and that other versions all had their own higher resolutions than the PS1 version.

These games weren't tailored to a specific resolution and devs are human beings who fuck up massively many times.

>Playing as the devs intended

Is the most retarded thing you could possibly do.


16d822  No.16132848

File: 5da65bcfded444b⋯.jpg (268.93 KB, 925x1024, 925:1024, a8c0a9705cbf9256afb18b3f1c….jpg)

>>16131427

>OP bought a ps4 and came up with the story so we don't bully him

Why wouldn't he just say he bought it for Kat?


f85ffe  No.16132860

>>16132802

>finna

>>>/africa/

>>>/USA/

>>16132848

Why would he buy a PS4 for a shitskin?


591c2c  No.16132878

>>16132739

>My point is that it's the same as the Gamecube version which was higher than previous versions

All those versions are designed for the resolution they run at.

>Is the most retarded thing you could possibly do.

-t. underage nigger who only ever played on emulators.


5487fd  No.16132920

>>16128509

>RDR2

I've played like 3 hours of that shit and I can't be bothered to get back to it. Now playing comfy Arx Fatalis instead. Games are dead.


cc06c8  No.16132921

File: 03b562e30427bc6⋯.gif (2.34 MB, 1336x1358, 668:679, 03b562e30427bc62e7864741da….gif)

big lol

me wife literally bought a PS4Pro for KH3 and then returned it to walshart when she was done (34 hours)

it's just a slow computer with an AMD chip and cuckware


98d853  No.16132929

>>16132921

A dumb married faggot like you has nothing to be smug about. Fuck off.


e34ed4  No.16133255

>>16128509

>Today just got a PS4 for free

Get yourself some dynamite and kill yourself with it.


e29df6  No.16133498

>>16132699

Well if we want to get technical. Yes physical discs contain DRM too. Since they're signed to only work with that pressed copy. You can't just rip an iso from it to burn it to bluray-rw and stick it in the console.


d38a3f  No.16134731

>>16132929

seething


1d3d1b  No.16135178

File: b6c0a7834ef7f87⋯.jpg (27 KB, 398x361, 398:361, absolutely livid.jpg)

>>16132860

>Calling Kat a shitskin

I will skin you alive and bathe you in lemon juice and salt you irredeemable piece of shit.


9572f4  No.16135855

oh big fucking deal i used to wait literal days to download 30 megabyte shareware games




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