/v/ - Video Games

Who cares? The last game was shit, it was considered a mainline game, and they have done NOTHING to improve the series mechanically or clean up one-off mechanics in over a decade.

I think it's just gonna be a movie thing.

>pokemon

Only thing I'm ready for is seeing how bad this one is. I used to think they would just re-do the same shit over and over until the end of time, but it turns out they're actually making them worse now.

>>15939550

There must be a point where series like these just kind of stop adding anything to the table, right?

Only children should care

>>15939597

The only good designs are the starters, furbait, and maybe legendaries. The last good pokemon they made was Lucario and Eevee forms

>>15939598

They could have stopped making up garbage pokemon designs a couple generations ago if it were up to me and instead focus on writing some fun campaign stories that don't follow the same old basic formula.

>>15939597

>The only good thing that will come from it is the porn.

I just wish they would make a pokemon game focused on the top-tier waifus instead of the gay mons.

Why do companies always announce announcements now?

>>15939616

Pokemon Cyber Sluts when?

>>15939624

So their bots have time to build up fake hype

>>15939598

we are well past that point and now Gamefreak is working hard on removing features.

>>15939598

I wish. They keep trying to innovate in the most retarded ways, like introducing extremely powerful mons who have snowball mechanics where if they get a single KO their highest stat increases by 50% then keeps getting higher every time they get a KO, so getting a single KO can cause them to immediately snowball out of control and easily sweep an entire team. And before that, there was retarded shit like mega evolutions, which in concept could have made worthless shitmons viable, but instead they gave already extremely popular or extremely powerful mons megas, making them brokenly OP. Or Z-moves, which are effectively an "Instantly kill the one thing on the opponent's team that could counter my sweeper" button.

In Gen 6, Greninja was so brokenly OP and so hard to counter that the most popular competitive format, Smogon OU, had to ban him. In Gen 7, Greninja got a tonne of buffs, but compared to the rampant power creep introduced in a single release, he was no longer brokenly OP, and dropped back down to OU.

pokemon mestizo

pokemon muttlato

Pokemon Let's Go made some good changes (visible pokemon being one) and the pacing was good, the engine used in Let's go felt like a half-step from The 3ds games, but it made some good changes, namely in lighting; and the pokemon had more animations overall.

I am cautiously optimistic about the newest one.

>>15939560

>not caring about pokemon

The porn alone is worth it.

>>15939560

My sentiments exactly. But I suppose some anons like being enraged over every little shitty game not worth playing.

>>15940153

I hardly care for the porn of characters from games I don't play.

>A Pokemon thread on /v/

Oh great, a bunch of retards going "hurr da new games suk" while never actually explaining how they would improve the series in detail.

It'll probably be a sequel to Detective Pikachu game since the movie will be coming out soon.

>>15939624

video games have been a constant hype machine. Developers aren't making games that'll last for generations. They're making disposable entertainment so you'll keep spending money on the next disposable entertainment.

>>15940169

Then you have shit taste.

>>15940170

Make it a dating sim and shuffle the boring pokemon battling stuff to the sidelines.

>>15940177

Not an argument. There's no shortage of porn of characters from games I do play anyways.

>>15940184

I said improve the series not make it absolute shit

>>15940196

Enjoy the filter then.

>>15940188

Can Pokemon even work without the turn based mechanics?

>>15940188

What ideas do you have, and does it even matter when we all know none of them are going to happen? Not like gameplay is going to get better. If anything it'll somehow become more braindead easy.

>>15940200

Be cool if the battle system adopts aspects of the original Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, but not possible.

>Announcement on my birthday

Well, I wasn't looking forward to anything anyway.

>video from 2010

cool story bro

>>15940199

The core games? No, absolutely not. But you really don't need to ditch the turn based mechanics to even improve the games.

>>15940200

>What ideas do you have, and does it even matter when we all know none of them are going to happen?

Then what's the point of having these threads if our complaining doesn't matter?

As for my ideas I have a few that I've been thinking of for implementation in a fangame or romhack.

>Tweaking Mega Evolutions: The main issue with Mega Evolutions when they were introduced and even in Gen 7 is that there is no risk to using them aside from the loss of the item slot on the Pokemon, which is usually worth it. First, Mega Evolutions need a turn limit, 3 to 5 turns would suffice. This would prevent players from simply going Mega the first turn the Pokemon is out, since it would make doing it at the right time and circumstances important, and it would play into the lore of the Mega Evolutions being incredibly straining on the Pokemon. Perhaps even add in a mechanic that either requires a sacrifice of HP or PP before using Mega Evolutions.

>Speaking of, the entire PP system needs to be revised. Having individual PP counts for each move vs. a sort of "mana pool" means there's little to no consideration of how often to use your most effective and powerful attacks. Introducing a proper energy meter system would improve the game, and like HP the new energy system could be a stat that can be improved by EVs (or Awakening Values if they're going to replace them in more games like Let's Go did), and each Pokemon would have a different energy regen rate (either through a stat, or have it based on their nature, or something else).

>Z-Moves would mesh into this system by requiring large amounts of energy and Z-Moves should lock out the move used to carry out the move as if it burned out the ability to use the move, i.e. if you used Fire Blast as the Z-Move's base you would not be able to use Fire Blast for the rest of the battle.

>This is more of a single player issue but being able to use Z-Moves in one battle and then you're able to immediately jump to another battle, say in the wild, and use a Z-Move is rather silly and it would let the player steamroll NPCs with just Z-moves. Either require the player to go X amounts of steps or something else before Z-moves can be used in battle again

These are some of the changes I'd make.

>>15940275

Going by your solution, why not just have Z moves cost a fuckton of PP?

>>15940293

Because we're unironically at the absolute state of vidya where Nintendo would say something like it's "too complex" for their core audience to understand

>>15940293

>why not just have Z moves cost a fuckton of PP?

Because I don't like the PP system as it stands right now. Though just having the picked move drained of PP after a Z-Move would work too.

video from 9 fucking years ago

>>15940303

>it's almost been a decade since Black and White were announced and released

>you'll never live through that pre-release hype and shitposting again

>you'll never see Serebii Joe get caught using a pirated copy of the games ever again

>you'll never make N conspiracy posts ever again

>you'll never fall for fake "Grey" leaks ever again

I'd yiff that Lucario in the background

Something at this time is probably something not too major, could be wrong though.

>>15940170

>how they would improve the series in detail

Because going in detail often means changing fundamental aspects of the game, when Pokemon is a franchise with a charm that relies on simplicity, a concept that not even Gamefreak seems to get right

>>15940299

I can somewhat understand that, actually. Before I ever played a Pokemon game (which was very recently, I had always avoided the series), all I knew was through osmosis and basically amounted to

THERE'S LIKE 900 POKEMON, YOU HAVE TO PICK THE PERFECT SIX OUT OF ALL OF THEM, LOL ALSO IVS AND EVS, FUCK KNOWS WHAT THOSE ARE BUT THEY HAVE TO BE PERFECT, AND THIRTY TYPE ADVANTAGES, REMEMBER THEM ALL. GOOD LUCK, ASSHOLE

I sure as fuck didn't know that you don't really need any of that shit to play the damn games. I have no idea whether it's a common problem, probably not but I can see how it'd be overwhelming. It's why Let's Go exists, pretty much.

>>15940484

>THERE'S LIKE 900 POKEMON, YOU HAVE TO PICK THE PERFECT SIX OUT OF ALL OF THEM, LOL ALSO IVS AND EVS, FUCK KNOWS WHAT THOSE ARE BUT THEY HAVE TO BE PERFECT, AND THIRTY TYPE ADVANTAGES, REMEMBER THEM ALL. GOOD LUCK, ASSHOLE

Reminder that people who think pokemon should be played competitively in any capacity are not actually people.

>>15940484

>Because going in detail often means changing fundamental aspects of the game, when Pokemon is a franchise with a charm that relies on simplicity

You can change established mechanics while keeping the games simple. I'd like to think my suggestions in >>15940275 aren't too complex.

>>15940484

>I have no idea whether it's a common problem, probably not but I can see how it'd be overwhelming. It's why Let's Go exists, pretty much.

I'd argue that when the EV and IV systems aren't complex, it's just that they were never implemented in a user friendly manner and it took until Gen 7 to even get anything close to user friendly. Half the reason people used Pokegen and what not to hack Pokemon into their games was because getting perfect or optimized IV spreads was very difficult and EV training was tedious. Honestly I think Let's Go is a move in the right direction by replacing EVs with Awakening Values.

>>15940494

You're an idiot.

>>15940484

You forgot the

YOU NEED TO SPEND 6 TRILLION HOURS BREEDING POKEMON TO GET THE PERFECT ONE, THAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY LOSE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS DOING THE SAME

>>15940484

You should drop by fullderp sometime.

>>15940619

Yeah, probably. Since the video is from 9 years ago

Wait a minute OP, where's the source?

>>15940625

Well yeah, but I just realized OP has no source at all. That's what I get I guess. What a shit thread.

this will be the first time im excited for a pokemans game because maybe the change to switch will actually cause some sort of 'evolution' in the series, some sort of action rog

then they can have a separate 'GO' series for kiddies that carries on the shitty turnbased mechanics

>>15940781

I have way too many things to list that would drastically improve the series without changing its core gameplay.

I fucking hate Let's Go because people it made you all fucking retards. Let me count the ways.

>Seeing Pokemon on the overworld are good

They're fucking awful, and let me explain why. Instead of a random chance of finding a Pokemon while standing in the grass, firstly they have to spawn in the Pokemon (which knowing GF will lag the game), then if you don't want the Pokemon you'll have to go out of your way to avoid it which could be difficult depending on how narrow the space is, but spawning in a ton of common Pokemon causes a problem, if a rare one shows up you have to navigate through the shitmons or if they don't have a way to despawn Pokemon (which it's GF they're retartded) the rare ones just won't spawn. God forbid you accidentally hit a Pokemon, causing the spawning to reset (which it will because again GF doesn't know what they're doing) and the rare Pokemon you wanted is gone. The random system is much better, and there have been much better solutions to get the Pokemon you want (off the top of my head DexNav).

>The return of stat EXP

For those who don't know, awakening values are just the old Gen 1/2 Stat Experience system revamped into something much worse. There's a reason stat EXP was cut, because it was just another thing to max out. Instead of making meaningful build choices like with EVs, you just grind forever to get better stats on everything.

>It looks good

It looks worse than a 3DS game on fucking Citra

>Animations

I can't say for sure whether or not the animations are any better, but if they are that is good for every future Pokemon game since the Pokemon models are standardized now. Regardless, the walking animations from Let's Go might not even be new, Gen 7 had unused walking animations for every single Pokemon, probably just in case they ever wanted to use them since the chibi overworld models don't really exist anymore.

I've mentioned this before, but Pokemon doesn't even need to change that much to be a good engaging experience, mostly because I'm not the kind of person who gives a shit about balance in a single player RPG and that doesn't actually battle any actual humans. If you're playing with other people you're a fucking normalfag who interacts with people and you should get the fuck off this site.