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Also my opinion is that you should stop advertising games kwned by bugmen

>>15912937

Where?

>>15912925

don't miss forget accuracy and crit, survivability passives are good

Yes you should play on betrayal or whatever the current SC league is.

No you cannot play DW duelist because you don't have the money to make one work. Also Look up a build the game's called path of life nodes for a reason

>>15912939

>woah

oh man, raughed too hald

>>15913237

The betrayal mechanics themselves are wildly overtuned

>>15912925

>PoE is Diablo 2

is this a thinly veiled LOL thread?

>>15912925

Play Grim Dawn. It's better isn't P2W and isn't made by chinks.

>>15913391

For your first bit, following guides is not necessary to play, only necessary to learn what works and what doesn't. You can absolutely do 90% of the content with anything that isn't completely retarded. People whine about chasing the meta, but you certainly do not have to if you aren't trying to achieve something (race to 100 or some shit).

As for your second point, the endgame is a type of item called a map which can be crafted similarly to gear and when used creates a randomly generated location with a tileset depending on the map item you used. There's a chart you have to go through where maps are connected to each other and will only drop if you're adjacent or have cleared it previously. The guy you saw killing shit quickly is doing so because doing more maps > basically anything else. This is referred to as "clear speed meta", which as the name implies means that something that kills a lot of mobs quickly is almost always better than something that simply does a lot of damage.

If you do want to play what I suggest is either finding a build guide that sounds fun or going in blind and just completing the campaign. It will probably take 10-15 hours and will let you know if you'll like the game or not. If you hate the quests that's fine because you basically won't do anymore after the campaign is over. Do note that a lot of builds pretty much only start to work at the endgame (such as righteous fire, which you can only really sustain at level 65+ due to a unique that is pretty much mandatory and needing a lot of key areas on the tree) so be careful not to pick one of those.

If you go in blind your first character will be shit, so just accept that.

This Betrayal shit is obtuse and annoying as hell.

>>15913391

Honestly the game's not that great, it basically dies after you finish t5/6 of maps for a majority of people because it removes the illusion of build variety right then.

Yeah what you saw on that stream was endgame, you trade for maps, and then farm for currency on said maps to try to either min/max or progress. Endgame progression is pure RNG because it's determined by drops.

The skill tree is a joke, there's so many flat useless nodes on it that any non-gimmick build overlooks 90% of it. The issue with that is you need hp (or ES but that's just blue hp). Armor due to how it works is useless on large hits, and evasion isn't reliable in the slightest. So the game forces you to build characters in what's basically a very mandated way in order to have someone capable of clearing content without already being wealthy, and the only way to get currency is by having a high level character farm.

>>15912925

PATH OF LIFE: MERCHANT GUILD SIMULATOR

I've finally managed to get good at this game and will likely beat the shit out of Uberelder before the new year.

Starting out sucks when you have no clue how gems work, what items are good, how the skill tree works or how only +life matters, or that they expect you to have capped elemental resistances.

You can progress through the main story and 10 acts with acceptable difficulty, if a little slow, even if you only played other Diablo-like games before.

However there is a brick wall at maps for beginners, since things get noticeably harder and progression slows down a lot. Without knowing what you're doing with your character and build you won't progress.

Almost any skill can be used to complete the game and destroy the game, if you know what you're doing. However, some are better than others at certain tasks. A handful are flat out bad/underpowered.

Once you have a rudimentary understanding what is going on, or are following a build guide, gotten through the main story there are a few types of players:

>Beating/Finishing all content

Pretty difficult to do when it comes to the endgame, uberelder is pretty damn hard and you either have to follow a build-guide, or be very experienced to know how to put a character and build together and what works.

There are builds and characters that do that shit for very cheap, others are incredibly expensive to gear.

>Acquire currency

Getting rich in this game feels pretty good and is a game in of itself, cheating the goyim and watching your wealth grow is alright.

>Farm X

There are magic find farmers who spam specific maps for specific drops similar to Diablo for currency or super-endgame items like headhunter. People play these to fund their projects and acquire items they want.

There also dedicated builds for farming the labyrinth, which is a 'die and you get kicked out of the instance' thing with very solid and reliable income generation.

You can also have builds made for single target and kill the absolute endgame bosses, but those suck at clearing maps quickly. Generally what you do then is have other people pay you to murder said bosses for them when they get it unlocked.

There is other shit like delve farmers, hall of grandmaster farmers and so on, but those are even more specific.

>Crafter

One of the more fun things to do. Item crafting in Path of Exile is absolutely great and better than any other game. Reasonable RNG that can be manipulated in your favor. Knowing how to make a few items can make you a shitload of cash with very little effort. If you know how to craft even one itemslot for a popular skill/build, you'll make good money.

>Breaking the game

This requires a retarded amount of experience and theorycrafting, but the gist of it is that there are builds found basically every league that absolutely break the game. Wormblaster (which survived 6 iterations of nerfs before it died recently), immortal delve gluttony builds, cast on damage taken servercrashers

I would generally recommend starting with a class and skill combo that is good currently, not look up guides until you feel like you cannot progress.

Like a Marauder/Juggernaut with Tectonic slam, Witch/Elementalist with Winter Orb or Armageddon Brand, Templar/Hierophant with Arc Totems

>>15913588

>reasonable RNG on crafting

So reasonable it can only takes on average 1500 fusings at QL 20 to get a 6L! Other crafting involves it being so absurd to actually get a good base people pay exalts for something that's exalt ready with 2/3 max'd mods

Don't play this game. It is run by bugmen that want your money.

The game has serious flaws that will never be fixed because they divide the fanbase and cause arguments. All of this is solved by GGG having plenty of (((influencers))) to control the game's community. Only places you can actually discuss this game are leddit and their official forums, both of which are controlled by GGG.

I played the game up until this year (so 6 years) and I am not going back.

i don't know how to feel about this league, starting out felt like shit since the syndicate is way overtuned, and you constantly get deleted by the members specially in fortifications so you need to ignore them at the start and gear up.

currency now drops more often and exalted orbs are rising up in price, i think this is due to the new crafting system that has some really expensive crafting mods like your hits can't be evaded for 3 ex.

i haven't done shaper and elder due to how painful it is to farm xp on high tier maps with the syndicate fucking you in the ass in each one of them, atleast i got some kind of expensive items on their safehouses like a poet's pen.

I don't like what they did to statsticks and shaper items, they fucked over most of the melee build and if you don't have a retarded ammount of money playing them is suicide

>aren't any alternatives

Median XL.

>>15912925

Pick vitality and go meta on poeninja.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PAjWI4sO6Y

>>15913671

Most of the times that I died to the syndicate was due to me lagging out because they are repeatedly exploding the entire screen which tanks my frame rate and gets me killed when the game becomes less responsive.

Having played this game for 700 or so hours, I died yesterday trying to turn on Champs adrenaline using RF, while having bloodrage on.

Think im done for this league.

>>15913537

The thing I hate the most about PoE is how fast the gameplay is. D2 and early PoE were a lot slower which led to gameplay being more about decision and reaction time. Current PoE is more about mashing buttons as fast as possible and hoping you don't get 1 shot by a reflect mob or something off-screen. The screen gets so filled and cluttered with spell effects that trying to discern what the fuck is going on is futile.

If you like collecting loot and trading, PoE is excellent for that. But if you like gameplay and making builds, stay the fuck away from it.

>>15913366

>made by chinks

Made by New Zealanders, it was simply bought by them and not made by them.

>>15913927

Try something other than hardcore. If you want to impose a challenge on yourself, just go SSF instead of deleting your entire progress the moment you lag even the slightest.

>>15914379

>Current PoE is more about mashing buttons as fast as possible and hoping you don't get 1 shot by a reflect mob or something off-screen

Reflect was removed and if you get off-screened then usually it's because you didn't invest in more than one layer of defences. And there are plenty of builds that don't require more than one button, unless of course you rely on flasks as a crutch with something like Pathfinder.

>But if you like gameplay and making builds, stay the fuck away from it

It's neat for experimentation though, even now there are plenty of unexplored build options.

>>15914379

PoE is one of the best games if not the best for making builds, it just happens that gameplay is so dumb that you cannot expect supper awesome synergy between skills (Which ends up hurting build variety). Most builds just use one skill, and 99.99% use at most two without taking buffs into account.

Grim dawn is the complete opposite, you have good synergy between skills and gameplay is slower so you use more of them, but loot is generic titan quest trash. Builds are more about how you mix classes and which skills you pick up more than anything else.

I prefer PoE over GD to be honest. Path of Exile is very polished now that they got rid of old master mechanics.

>>15914711

>deleting your entire progress the moment you lag even the slightest.

Honestly I havent died to lag in past year. I think its mostly depends on your server/connection. But syndicate will rape your ass unless you play as 20k es guardian.

>>15914805

>Path of Exile is very polished now

Lol.

>>15914771

>Reflect was removed

Reflect aura and reflect invasion boss. Reflect still in game in other forms.

>unless of course you rely on flasks

Do you actually not using flasks? They can easily double or triple DPS and survivability.

You're not going to like this answer but it's correct. Follow a build. A meta build that's cheap. Search queries should be something like "path of exile 3.5 league starter". Pick one that interests you.

It's important to get an idea of how progression goes, what currency does, what's valuable, what's not, how to be efficient, and frankly you're not going to get all the first hand information you need playing a dumpy homegrown build that can't even get very far into maps.

This is 100% the best thing you can do as a newb. These threads will never properly convey the full amount of information you need to get into Path of Exile. Following a build won't suck the fun out for you like you're imagining, because while leveling you're probably going to be using whatever you can get your hands on, maybe doing a little small time trading and crafting, interacting with the current (and past) league mechanics, and all that shit is still exciting.

Then, once you've experienced all that shit, have yourself a little bit of currency (I'd recommend at least 2-3 exalts worth of chaos orbs. Save your orbs of fusing, chromas, jeweller orbs honestly), then maybe try planning your own build. Even then I'd still look at other builds to see what interesting combinations of gear and gems they have that may benefit what you want.

Also, always play the leagues unless it's a gimmick you really don't like. The markets are fucked in standard leagues, less so on HC.

t. also a recent PoE newb

This is just what worked for me. Maybe you wanna jump into hardcore and rip characters on your own builds until you get it but I'm not into that. Not with only so much time for vidya.

>>15913671

>>15915270

Syndicate was ridiculous (it was really cool not ever getting to finish transport while leveling because Haku had an item that devoured corpses but now it's very much doable. The issue is they do a lot of chaos and phys damage which is hard to mitigate for a lot of builds. I didn't bother with Fortification past T3 maps until I got CI. Currently it's kind of rocky for me to mess with Forts on T11 with 7k ES+CI.

>>15915333

As I said, I had around 70% chaos res and 7200hp and I was oneshotted by ailsing and I am not sure if she even has chaos damage. I think she probably shotgunned me with some bullshit projectiles stacking on the wall.

>>15915333

>A meta build that's cheap

I remember good old times of diablo 2. "cheap build, you only need eni and anih and 20 charms with hp and +1 to skills". But league starter build can work.

>The markets are fucked in standard leagues, less so on HC.

HC is better but by a small margin. And a lot of prices are set up by retards. "someone selling rise of pheonix for 10exalt, I better set the same price" while original 10ex RoP was a legacy version, now everyone set the same price for their nerfed versions. And its like 100 people playing there. There is no reason not to play on ladder. If you dont like gimmick just dont play at all. Instead of default leagues with fucked up trading you better off on soloselffound league.

>7k ES

Its fucking nothing. And you probably get stunned/frozen all the fucking time.

>>15915270

>Reflect still in game in other forms.

Old reflect through optional map mods and new reflect as projectile skills that all have a cooldown (except the bull in Racecourse). There's also items that reduce reflect damage, Pantheon powers that also reduce it and Ascendancy nodes that give you outright immunity.

>Do you actually not using flasks? They can easily double or triple DPS and survivability.

They do but if you build around it being a crutch then that is what it is going to be. They nicely supplement your build but people don't like to do anything that requires any thought. Unless you are playing a build with 4k life in T15, you don't actually need to spam flasks constantly, but everyone simply decides to spam flasks every 3 seconds when everything is going fine and every 2 seconds when in panic mode. And then they complain that their fingers hurt while playing Flaskfinder with 330% flask duration using Faminebind and self-curse because GGG doesn't allow using macros that type 12345.

>>15915444

>because GGG doesn't allow using macros that type 12345.

Do it anyway. I did it for an entire league and I never got in trouble for it. They can't even detect it.

>>15915270

>Lol.

Well compared to what it was years ago that is. I played closed beta, it was absolutely atrocious in comparison.

>Path of Tencent

>for an overrated trash game that people hype up as the next coming of Diablo 2

>>15915710

I played closed beta too and don't really think the game significantly improved much over the years.

So I get that I need to stack on HP and armor in order to not die later in the game. Right? Evasion is shit right?

Do I concentrate on HP leech or HP regen? I suspect that bottles will be fucking useless.

>>15915386

Aisling has something that is way upscaled and has that unavoidable snare, she's probably the most stealth rippy Syndie there is right now, I feel for your lots

but now you can finally reroll

they removed race seasons from the game, degenerated the gameplay while pandering to redd*t casuals and literally sold out.

I called all of this in 2013.

>>15915985

Armor is completely shit, evasion at least sometimes negates crits armor never will. Basically how armor works is that if a hit does a certain amount before armor (I forget the exact calculation but it's fairly low) armor does nothing. It's great against small hits, but those aren't what you rip to a majority of the time

>>15916023

That contradicts a lot of what I find online AND itt?

>>15916039

Which part that armor is basically useless for anything past like T2 maps?

>>15916045

I'm like in the first act, I dunno what T2 maps are.

But people say that evasion is chance based, and armor is percentage based, so it actually decreases damage of all hits. Is it wrong? How does it work?

How do you even survive if both armor and evasion are useless? Just stack more HP?

Also respond pls to

>Do I concentrate on HP leech or HP regen?

>>15916068

Armor works like I said it works, If a hit is below your armor threshhold before armor, armor blocks a % of that physical damage. If it's above (Crits are going to be the main offenders) you will take full damage and your armor will do nothing.

Neither, flat HP. Leech is very hard capped unless you build around it, and HP regen isn't enough to really counteract the damage unless you do specific builds.

that being said FOLLOW A GOD DAMN BUILD YOU MONGOLOID

>>15916073

What build?

>>15916085

Fucking what character are you playing, there's a small amount of builds that area cheap enough and easy enough that you can actually do, a couple for each dude.

>>15915444

>being a crutch

They are avaible tool. You use all the tools you have.

>people don't like to do anything that requires any thought

Using flasks is a muscle memory. BAsically whole gameplay is muscle memory. You dont need to think what to do, you just do. And you dont need to think, the only places where you need to burn the boss is a couple of endgame encounters. Outside of that you just use utility from flasks in most cases. Sayin that people get tired of pressing 1234 is like saying that people drop games because they have to left click too much.

Most of the game is pure reflex and prior knowledge.

>reflect

Also Atziri with mirror has 100% reflect and Atziry in general has 1% reflect.

>>15916017

>but now you can finally reroll

True. But snare does shit against me, I just use consecrated path, it removes it.

>>15916023

>Armor is completely shit

Hae you done any calculations, faggot?

>I dont know how it works but I believe in bullshit

Stop spreading it.

>>15915985

Evasion is useless, HP is the most important but you have to have something else as multiplier. Fortify goes without saying, Buttles are mostly useless, but you need one with instant heal and rest with utility. Bleed+curse+freeze removal combo is the usual.

>regen vs leech

That depends. How much damage you do with hits, how much hp you have, how much regen you can get "for free". Without any passives you can only leech 20% of your max XP per second and usually life leech applies only to physical attack damage. There are also life leech rate but usually its irrelevant. Its not about what is better, its about what is better for you.

Usually classes have some sort of their own damage mitigation/sustain. Juggernaut has 90% physical damage reduction VS hardest hits in game, guardian also but he is also super tanky with aura effectiveness, hierophant has MoM. Chieftan has life leech from totems (and he deals damage with totems so he takess less damage while he runs around), occultist has(had?) free ES and ES regen, etc.

>>15916068

Evasion is not chance based its entropy based. Basically you get hit sooner or later and its unreliable. Imagine playing russian roulette. That is how evasion works. You need to be prepared to survive few shots to the head if you want evasion build.

>>15916073

Pure bullshit, absolutely wrong.

>>15916091

I'm playing Duelist with two swords no I don't like SAO.

Also are sivler coins worth using right away on that undead woman, or should I save them for end game or something?

>>15916093

Juggernaut? Is that a subclass? I don't see any indications for main class subclasses. Are they just made up by community, or it's actually displayed somewhere?

What are Duelist subclasses?

Also can I run combined regen and leech skills then?

From what I understand you play duelist by just spamming one single melee AOE skill like Cleave.

Where am I supposed to get constant mana supply? Bottle? Should I spend points on mana leech or it's a waste?

>>15916093

>it's wrong because I say so

It took 6 seconds of google searching to show exactly what I said being that armor is useless against large hits https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Armour

Dumbass

>>15916103

Save them for when you actually have a good pool. And Duelist you could go spectral throw DW with claws? Duelist in general starts in a strange spot so a lot of people don't make good league starters for new players on him

>>15916103

Game has classes Marader with Juggernaut/berserk/chieftan subclasses, Templar - Hierophant/guardian/Inquisitor, etc. They all have some unique shit going for them. Download path of building and you can see what they have, they will have circles outside of main tree.

Duelist : slayer/gladiator/champion.

>mana

In most cases 0.3% manaleech is enough. Bottle works too for a while, but later you probably will use bloodmagic gem or get enought regen or reduce cost of skills or make melee attacks free.

>>15916116

>armor is useless against large hits

>it only mitigates 50% of highest hit in the game, therefore it does NOTHING

Ok, seems legit.

>>15916135

Ah yes the classic "30,000 armor and 11000 hp build" How could I be so blind as to forget the perfect build that has… nothing. Don't forget the mandatory brass dome so you don't get a crit that bypasses that.

Fucking retard

Also no-gold economy sounds interesting on paper, but how people trade end-game gear?

What is the metric of shit's worth?

Is there some universal trading item that you can use as one?

Like this sword costs XX shits and this armor costs XXX shits.

>>15916166

Mitigation balance generally never changes, and no you need HP, fortify is nice, but you need HP more than anything else.

Universal trading item is a chaos orb, and most people trade through poe.trade. You need a premium stash tab to have a decent chance to sell items, but buying them is super easy using it.

>>15916175

What about that particular node? Do I take it?

>>15916166

You're not required to do that by any means, but it's a good way to not die. As long as you have high effective hp (5k or so), capped resists, some form of mitigation and don't stand in obvious death circles you should be fine.

>>15916173

Smaller to average things are valued in chaos orbs, while more valuble shit is valued in exalted. A decent yellow item with life and resists might be about 5 chaos, a somewhat rare unique might be 40-50 chaos, a very sought after unique or damn near perfect jewel might be 2-3 exalted (1ex is about 120c right now), and the stupidly expensive super high end stuff like headhunter is 50-60ex. A decent starting build might cost 10c max, and that's if you go out of your way for better stuff.

>>15916181

It depends entirely on what you're going for. If you were to run unwavering stance (can't be stunned but can't evade) your evasion rating has 0 effect but it's still there, at which point iron reflexes converts it into armor. Generally though since keystones come with a drawback, you shouldn't just grab them at random.

>>15916181

Once again, just go to the forums and look up a starter build, because I am willing to bet you are not getting the right nodes no matter how much me and the other guy talk you through it

>>15916225

I don't know how you're having trouble with the forum, but just say what main skill you want to use and I'll find a build that's cheap for you to follow.

>>15916242

They make you run faster, can be rolled to give even more move speed and this all stacks with move speed on boots or other gear. There's no secret, there just a not terribly common drop that you're going to want 1 or 2 of.

>>15916242

Going fast is great and you should always have at least two on your bar.

>>15916225

>At least this game has large and varied endgame right?

No not really, it's running maps and as most builds usually have "attack skill" and then "mitigation (CODT Immortal Call usually)/movement skills". The endgame is generally just clearing screens of mooks at once with no real danger until you get one shotted by something. You repeat this until either through RNG or trading you advance through the delve/syndicate/atlas all of which play basically the exact same with "cast ability move to next pack, etc"

>>15916271

>I have never made it past yellow maps

>shaper guardians/elder/atziri are just a myth

>>15916283

>boss fights that are a massively slim minority are the endgame

>>15916290

If you get good enough you can easily do nothing but shaper guardians/shaper himself with just the profits you get from doing them. And considering this is some of the highest end content in the game, it is what you want to be aiming for endgame. Don't act like this is something only 1% of players will only ever get to do once because it's not.

>>15916302

Right I forgot about the wide wide world of trading.

>farming the same 6 bosses to get currency to trade for more boss runs is varied content

And yeah, I'm willing to go out on a limb and say 5% or less of players actually have done Uber Elder and probably less than 15% have done shaper.

>>15916327

>And yeah, I'm willing to go out on a limb and say 5% or less of players actually have done Uber Elder and probably less than 15% have done shaper.

>this game is bad because I'm not good enough to beat it

>>15916337

I don't even know where you got that from, 30% of people who have played it don't get past fucking act 1

>>15916195

>effective hp (5k or so), capped resists, some form of mitigation and don't stand in obvious death circles you should be fine

Unless you fight syndicate.

>>15916302

>If you get good enough you can easily do nothing but shaper guardians/shaper himself with just the profits you get from doing them

Not sure if true. Guardians are profitable, but not sure if shaper worth it. Doing red elder seems totally fucking worth it thou. Guardian maps pay for itself all the time, but shaper might drop fucking gloves. Granted they cost like 30x more than before, but its still a fucking 30c. You cant really do shaper without being reall fucking rich otherwise you will burn all your currency on fragments. it used to be 5% chance for sword+5% for flask but I heard they buffed it. So its probably between 15% and 20% for good loot. So you will need to make at least 5 runs to have a chance at profit. But red elder is fucking good, just use icewall+spell cascade to save shaper in event to get jewel and other good shit.

I did calculated profits from doing some random shit and in incursion league temple was the best way to make currency while playing solo. The rest was exactly the same profit/time invested/currency invested rate. Between running maps, doing uberlab, doing atziri, guardians. The only difference is that while doing maps you always get currency no matter what, but you need invest more into rolling map, using fragments, prophesy and sextans, than on shaper/atziri runs and you need to know what you doing with maps.

>>15916340

>a lot of people will try a f2p game even if they suspect it won't appeal to them

>>15916340

>moving the goalposts this hard

You said there was no endgame and it eventually become mindless grinding. I pointed out that there are endgame bosses, and for whatever reason you bring up people who installed the game but never bothered to play it.

>>15916363

Dealing with syndicate faggotry comes down to having burst damage that you can manually direct (minion builds are not good for this) and not getting instagibbed by whatever the fuck janus does.

>Not sure if true

3/5 items shaper drops are worth a bit more than 1 ex. It costs about 57c total for one of each guardian map, or 40c for one of each fragment. As long as you're not getting really unlucky and you can actually sell off the starforges and dying suns you get, you should be more than able to sustain this. And this isn't even taking into account the possibility of getting a scourge from chimera and other misc drops.

>red elder

As long as you actually have the maps you need to spawn him, sure. Sometimes he can be a huge cunt and fuck you around for a while before you get the 20 elder maps needed.

>>15916378

>mindlessly grinding bosses isn't mindless grinding

Holy shit

>>15916385

>bosses that can easily instakill you if you're not paying attention is mindless grinding

>>15916392

Yeah it really is, when you farm them 50+ times that becomes mindless grinding. Especially super easy bosses like Normal Atziri who can easily be done at level 60 but you'll see her far more often than you want until you get the currency to sustain buying all the uber frags if you're farming for a disfavor

>>15916399

If you get bored of doing one boss over and over, farm one of the other 8 billion profitable bosses the game has from previous leagues. And if you want something like disfavor, you don't need to just farm normal atziri forever. Either buy the fragments you need or just buy the fucking axe outright with currency you got from doing other shit.

>>15916399

>you get good at doing something you've repeated 50 times

no shit?

>>15916408

>8 billion

or you know 9, but hey who wants to split hairs. Not to mention actually profiting off a run requires more time spent selling shit than the run takes.

>>15916363

PS. To profit from shaper from the start you need to start selling completions but making a group is a bit slower but you make currency just by doing him. But you need fucking social interactions.

>>15916378

The point is not that doing shaper is not profitable, the point that its expensive to do compared to everything else.

You will need few runs to make a profit from him. 40c is slightly more expensive than red/guardian map (on average) and but it might give nothing in return. And these days you have scarabs which can probably boost profits from mapping a lot, but than again it does mean that maps will be somewhat cheaper, but pure currency is easy to generate this league(aka inflation) so who the fuck knows, I am not going to calculate profit rates for this. But in the end doing shaper is bigger investiment than doing everything else. I say that doing guardians is the safest way to grind if you can do them. If you are poor as fuck and cant do guardians than doing uberlab on juggernaut is a good alternative and I personally think its quite fun thing to do. If you are fast(or if you doing lab for someone else) than just rush to izaro without most of side objectives, if you are slow or if you enjoy doing side objectives than just do them. The only downside to this is bad lab days. Just do the math, what is better for you, doing one lab with 6 keys in 10 minutes or doing 2labs with 3 keys in 4 minutes (as an example). I never sold any good enchants so you can ignore them for profit calculations.

>red elder

Its much cheaper but its slower. I said profit/currency invested/time. Red elder cost more time to do. You might also spend time trading for maps, even if they are cheap.

>>15915768

>I played closed beta too and don't really think the game significantly improved much over the years.

Come on anon. I agree with you that the game has HUGE flaws but the game is on another level in comparison to closed beta. Just the fact they fixed desync is enough to make a difference, but graphically and content wise it also improved a ton, a FUCK lot of quality of life was also added through the game. There is a lot more to loot than what it was in CB, you can get some crazy items now and with the addition of ascendancies (aka, actual classes) the game has a little bit more build variety.

But like I said, the game still has some huge core flaws that are deal breakers to me currently, and the reason I don't want to play anymore:

First and foremost gameplay never got interesting, the game is boring as fuck to play even for a hack and slash and powercreep made it worse (Most skills feel the same, monsters die instantly).

Related to the previous point, the game branched off way too far from the customizing skills gimmick. They added way to many supports that are essentially more damage multipliers which combined with their addiction to bloat the game with new shitty skills makes it so the best course of action is to pick the best skill that is playable unsupported and add five more damage supports to it. Looking at poe.ninja, the top 10 skills make up 70% of the playerbase between level 94 and 100.

Gating progression behind RNG, which combined with the repetitive gameplay make an interesting mix of fuck that shit.

The economy of the game is trash. Out of 100 uniques you drop maybe one may be valuable more than 5c, that is insane. The best way to make currency is to NOT PLAY THE FUCKING GAME and flip items, buy good rares with open affixes from people then craft and resell, or just flip currency. That's when you know there are problems.

<TL;DR: The game is definitely much better, but still has huge flaws.

>>15913671

>Yes, GGG sends their shills everywhere to control the opposition. With their PR disasters and all of that. Like how bestiality league sucked ass a year ago(or so)? And no one talks about it! A proof that GGG controls it all.

But Bestiary league was the best league?

>>15916494

>Dual weilding is shit

When you played last time? Leveling as melee is easy as fuck and DW is free 21% more damage. Vendor 60% increased damage weapons are good enough to carry you trough most of premaps and than you can get good 1c weapon. Wings are fucking great for leveling. While its true that spells are scale directly with your level, weapons usually gave better scaling these days since most of melee skills can cover whole screen with aoe. DW is good premaps, but later you have to decide what you want, DW requires 2 weapons and usually top end 1hander is fucking expensive, while 2hander with best dps is only a fucking 17% better than 10c weapons(without cost of 6l ofc).

Tabula cost 12c and leveling weapon cost 1fus. Leveling as DW is perfectly fine, but endgame weapons cost too much. Casters/2h are indeed much cheaper.

The real worst mistake is not knowing that CI/es builds require stun and freeze immunity. You get stunned all the time without immunity. And while average ES gear is craftable by yourself, its still harder to do than HP gear.

>>15916578

>what if you get hit three times in a row

Its now "if" its "when". But layers of defence is indeed right way to do it.

>>15916590

>branched off way too far from the customizing skills gimmick

While its somewhat true it also is not. Support gems are really bad these days, true. A choice between "50% more elemental damage" and "50% more spell damage" is not a fucking choice. But they still have new cool shit here and there.

>The best way to make currency is to NOT PLAY THE FUCKING GAME and flip items, buy good rares with open affixes from people then craft and resell, or just flip currency. That's when you know there are problems.

I did the calculations and time invested comes out about the same profit as playing the game regular way.

>Out of 100 uniques you drop maybe one may be valuable more than 5c

And out of billion of items dropped. But no one fucking forces you to pick them up or even see them.

>>15916594

>But Bestiary league was the best league?

Even if it was true, it was terrible at the start.

>>15916594

It was fairly decent, it is just that it was also heavily flawed, like how if you wanted a particular recipe you would have to grind specific areas because the particular mob only spawns in those areas. The absolute best thing to come from it was that it made yellow mobs actually strong again.

>>15916596

>Support gems are really bad these days, true. A choice between "50% more elemental damage" and "50% more spell damage" is not a fucking choice.

It has a lot less more multiplier gems now though. Something like Decay, Phantasms, Chance to Bleed or even Onslaught. It started being that way with 2.0 but began transitioning away from it after 3.0 .

>And out of billion of items dropped. But no one fucking forces you to pick them up or even see them.

Also there are loads of uniques that have their uses even in end-game but aren't used because people need to have a build guide made by their favourite streamer before they try it.

>>15916668

Helping oak is probably best option for melee. And alira if you are really fucking bad and cant even get needed resists and manaregen. Changing your mind cost like 20c or so. I would have picked Oak if I were you, but alire is also viable. Doesnt matter much at this point.

>>15916668

I'm also fairly new and I feel this choice is probably easier if you know what your final build will be and whether those 2 extra points get you a major node that is better than what they give.

>>15916676

You're saying those two skill point won't either give me 20% damage or 15% resists no matter what I do with them?

Also there are no lawful good in this game. You release small satan, than you kill not-nazi ruler and a bunch of not-nazis who were oppressing poor dindus. 10 second after you kill head not-nazi dindus starts eating and raping each other, and without not-nazis super satan is free to eat everyone.

>>15916710

At higher levels 1% regen and 2% physical resistance is quite hard to get. 20% inc damage is also good for 2 points. You can get something even better with jewels and jewel socket cost is 2 points. But you dont have good jewels, right? There are also +15% allres near mara but +30% is better than +15%. The less time you spend fucking around with gear while leveling the better. So I think alira will be better and later you can switch to 2 points when you can afford cool jewels and you might even keep alira, since its pleasant and you can switch to oak if you gat a lof of physical resistance elsewhere. 2% is shit by itself, but each % is better than the previous one.

Short answer : Pick alira.

>>15916722

I'll pick alira then, since I read that elemental resistances are very important later in the game.

>>15913366

PoE isn't made by chinks, just owned by them.

Grim Dawn costs money straight up, PoE costs money after ~30 hours when you need more stash space (which is the only thing you can buy to influence the game, the rest is cosmetics), so both of them cost about the same.

Also Grim Dawn isn't better.

>>15913671

>Like how bestiality league sucked ass a year ago(or so)? And no one talks about it!

People were shitting on bestiary league for its entire duration, what are you talking about?

And now that it's over people stopped shitting on it because it's over, they reworked the mechanic and removed the annoyances from the mechanic that made the league bad.

>>15916742

>elemental resistances

Easy to get them elsewhere later. But you actually need 43(?) overres. And 15allres 5regen for 2 points is cheap and it takes a lot of farming to make alira bonus obsolete.

>>15916744

>Also Grim Dawn isn't better.

Its smaller and skills and itemization are worse but the rest is better. GGG is fucking incompetent compared to Crate ent. And GD is a bit "tame" in terms of what you can do and it does not allow any creativity, but its not like poe allows many nonmeta builds these days so I consider this to be part of "GD is smaller than poe". And mods cant fix it because modders are lamer than devs. And poe has crafting and target farming. If you start thinking about it, poe might be better but GD was never a buggy mess and it does not load and look like shit half the time. You dont have to make a choice between game looking like a nes game in 240p and having more than 20 fps.

>cost

Poe costed a little bit more for me, because I got GD on sale.

GS is small, but good but lame. Poe is good and big but broken in many places and no one will ever fix it it seems that the guy who fixed desync and load time cant fix the rest of the problems and the rest of GGG are fucking useless..

>>15916749

It was sarcasm. The guy was saying that GGG sends trained shills everywhere so its only a positive coverage of the game and no one is allowed to complain about the game.

>>15916761

>Easy to get them elsewhere later

> it takes a lot of farming to make alira bonus obsolete

Which one is it?

>using Noob unironically

reported for extreme newfaggotry, lurk more please

>>15916781

If you like typing as if you're on reddit, you should do it there.

>>15916775

Res is found on every piece of gear and its common. But you need 205 in every res for the cap. -60% from difficulty and -40% from curses in maps. To make 15%allres+5manaregen obsolete you need a better than that jewel (assuming you dont need 20% critM). Its the same with stats, its easy to get 30dex elsewhere but sometimes you just have to pick up that node over 4% hp node because you just dont have anywhere else to get more dex. Its easy to get 205 allres but 205 is harder to get than 190. Usually I use oak since 1% regen and 2% phys res cant be found elsewhere, but I usually respec from +15% allres near marader after lvl 90, usually near lvl 95. 15% allres is just too fucking convenient to skip. At that time I have like 6-7 jewels in the tree. As I said, jewels can be better but only a great jewels. +10% allres is not that rare on jewels and you can get some HP with that, but its 30+c and at the start of the league you probably better off with just leveling 2 more levels than spending 30c. But at that point you might start respecking point from scion wheel because jewels give you more HP than that. I mean, fucking goldrim cost like 10 chaos with 40 allres and nothing else.

>>15916828

So I just stick to 15% until I'll be like 90 level.

Got it.

>PoE

Isn't it owned by the Chinese now?

Say it with me

CLICK AND LOOT GENRE IS COMPLETE AND UTTER SHIT, IT IS THE FORTNITE GAME OF PAST GENERATIONS AND YOU'RE JUST NOSTALGIAFAGGING OVER A GARBAGE LOOT SIMULATOR WITH SWALLOW GAMEPLAY

CLICK AND LOOT GENRE IS COMPLETE AND UTTER SHIT, IT IS THE FORTNITE GAME OF PAST GENERATIONS AND YOU'RE JUST NOSTALGIAFAGGING OVER A GARBAGE LOOT SIMULATOR WITH SWALLOW GAMEPLAY

>>15917146

>>15917293

Can confirm. Each time I rip in game I wish I was dead in real life.

>>15917105

Only 90% of it.

>>15917105

The difference between PoE china and PoE are staggering. iirc they have some really jewy things over there in MTX whereas over here you just have giant fx on your mtx

It looks like they haven't touched much with GGG's doing, but remember that could all change.

I'm new, but this game would be boring if there was no risk involved so I'm playing on hardcore. My last character died on the act 3 boss because I didn't understand how it's AOE worked. All I saw was my screen filling up with red and my life bar going down. After looking it up there was something about a safe spot next to him that you can stand in and I'm sure I'll figure it out next time.

Is there any other enemies like that I should know about or is everything after this still just dodging projectiles and melee?

>>15918562

Playing hardcore on an online only game is just asking for your time to be wasted. If you want additional challenges just play solo self-found and set your goal as reaching level 100.

>>15918743

>lack of knowledge really isn't the biggest issue although it does contribute

I feel like that would be the biggest time cost if anything. Knowing what side quests you can skip and having a good idea where the doors to the next area are go a long way towards saving time. I find my self spending a lot of time just backtracking while trying to figure out where to go next.

Reminder that speedrunners aren't people.

>>15918721

>righteous fire build

I made RF templar with ThickQuangDuc name(or something similar).

>>15919463

>I feel like that would be the biggest time cost if anything.

That is because you don't know what exactly those inefficiencies are.

>Knowing what side quests you can skip

All skippable sidequests have (Optional) written next to them.

>get a lootfilter, doesn't matter which one but you can always start out with Neversink set to semi-strict

>don't pick up every single item on the planet that drops, the lootfilter isn't just there to make your drops have pretty effects

>never pick up blue items unless the base or the links are good enough to justify it

>largely focus on currency rather tham items, even if you are playing solo self-found you are still going to be doing this

This is the largest timesink you could ever fall into, which almost everyone does when they start out until they either quit or stop doing it. More than everything else combined, this single-handedly is the thing that makes inefficiencies a larger time cost than lack of knowledge. For everything else, just look shit up on Youtube, I highly recommend watching the entire guide series by Engineering Eternity since the game has so many mechanics that it is impossible for me to explain everything you need to know without writing a 500 page manual. The guides are old, as shown by the fact that EE still talks about difficulties, but the vast majority of it still applies.

>>15919539

Especially streamers

>"haha, the race to 100 is too easy, please make it harder for us, Chris"

>>15920143

Yeah. Didn't you watch red versus blue?

>>15918743

What kind of animals are those and did they die?

>>15921383

I think I'm doing fine, since I basically facetanked the entire thing and winged skeleton boss, but I also burned all my refunds on it, so I want to know if it's going into the right direction.

>>15921383

You can farm any lab for loot but usually you want to farm lab between merciless and uber lab, not normal lab. Normal gives glove enchants. Cruel gives glove and boot enchants. Merciless gives glove, boot and helmet enchants. Gloves are a neat little bonus, boot enchants are usually worthwhile and helmets are incredibly powerful but don't bother with it.

>that passive tree

Remove the mana leech nodes, the life/mana leech node is more than enough to sustain mana. I would also argue against Iron Reflexes, since the +1000 armour and evasion node does not become +2000 armour from IR. Either way, for a beginner that is actually a surprisingly good tree to the point where I am starting to think you are following a build guide. Also you haven't shown what your ascendancy points went into, what did you pick?

>>15921779

Also the level of lab you get the enchant from determines how strong they are, so normal enchanted gloves will be weaker than cruel enchanted gloves.

>>15912925

>plays the game after a long break

>tencent owns it now

>can't be too bad I guess

>opens the game up

>all my old characters are pretty autistic so I delete them

>make a new character

>"connection lost" or some shit

>try again and manage to get to the next screen

>connection lost

>this time I manage to get to the loading screen

>connection lost

>I finally get into the game

>no audio

>check the settings

>no audio driver detected

>restart game

>connection lost 10 times in a row

and just like that I decided to never touch it again, it wasn't that great last time I tried it but I thought it'd at least be playable.

>>15921848

How early into the release of Betrayal did you do it?

>>15921865

>when they went to several GDC in commiefornia

I feel like i felt it coming years ago

>>15921857

Literally just last night. Was there some big server issue yesterday or something?

>>15921865

>censored

They haven't censored anything.

>>15921874

Wasn't playing yesterday but there shouldn't be anything to cause issues THAT bad.

>>15921910

Maybe it was issues on my side, I'll give it another try a bit later.

>>15921928

It's probably to do with the setting that loads shit without textures and without particles to cut down on loading times. I am guessing that, due to the number of textures being loaded on the screen at the same time, you keep freezing. Try starting the game with "-noasync", it will make loading times longer but that might fix it for you.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Launch_options

>>15921957

>"-noasync"

–noasync

>>15921957

>>15921960

Have two "-" instead of one before "async"

>>15921968

They brought the orb girls back(kinda).

Theres still tons of nudity in the game, especially in the roman themed areas.

Hell, the fascist guys with the not-nazi-symbolism are technically the good guys.

>>15921848

>>15921857

>>15921874

>>15921910

I have this issue too. It takes me like 3-4 attempts to login to the game while it crashes/disconnects constantly. I think it has something to do with hard-disk usage because I am loading it off a USB drive.

>>15921968

Skull and lion looks better anyway.

>>15921957

I'll try that then, not sure why that happens but hopefully it works.

>>15921987

Maybe, I'll put it on my ssd if the other issue doesn't work.

>>15921968

>still being butthurt over the orbs

Almost five years and you still don't have any other proof, only that singular image.

>>15921987

Then try it too and post the results in the thread.

>>15922047

>asking for evidence makes you a chink enabler

FIVE YEARS

>>15922047

I haven't even played the game in all it's chink glory yet, all I said was it looks cooler you flamboyant homosexual.

>>15922149

FIVE YEARS

>>15922149

He's asking for evidence that there are any censorship loving SJWs in GGG, you double baka. Considering there are orb sluts again and there have never been any other changes to things like naked statues of women or Atziri's loading screen with her titties out.

>>15921968

Skulls and skeletons aren't allowed in Chinese video games. Explain.

>>15922356

bex thought the original orb girls were sexist so her brother chris wilson got rid of them and thats why we had the skull and lion for a while until we got the new solaris and lunaris orb girls that look fucking horrible.

>>15922384

Is there evidence of Bex being responsible? Because all I have ever seen ever since Act 4 was released was comparisons between the orb girls and the orbs representing Daresso/Kaom. Always only the orbs themselves get posted. The most convincing thing I have seen was some threads by some random SJWs complaining about the orbs on the forums, but that in of itself isn't sufficient without anything connecting the threads to the decision.

>>15922412

Before the orb autist gets butthurt

>Because all I have ever seen ever since Act 4 was released

all I have ever seen posted threads*

>The most convincing thing I have seen

The most convincing thing I have seen in general*

>>15916166

There is a aura called grace that grants you a huge amount of evasion rating when you use it, about 3000 or so when it is fully leveled. When you take iron reflexes that becomes armor and is affected by all the %increased armor from your tree which ends up to be more than 10000 by itself sometimes. That being said, there are other methods of mitigating physical damage that are just as good. Don't believe the "estimated physical damage reduction" stat in the menu, it lies. You should take a basalt flask which gives 15%, fortify which gives 20%, and if you choose to go endurance charges, that is another 12% assuming you get the default three; for a total of 47% physical mitigation without any armor. 6k life is pretty much standard and what you should be aiming for if you don't want to die a bunch. Some people run much lower life than that but you have to know what you are doing.

>>15922367

>You will never stick your face in between those four titties

Orb girl removal as a sign of SJWism were an easily attackable distraction from the fact that the Scion was turned from a woman with second sight touched by the nightmare into an angry feminist man-hater. Not to mention the depiction of a religious empire subjugating native tribes and outcasts into some cartoonish from of charnel house S&M nazi slavery.

>>15922543

Scion's changes were pretty fucking bad.

>Why did Wraeclast love you so, gutter witch?

<Women like you give the rest of us a bad name.

>Curse you, Brutus! Curse your symbols and curse your bloody murdered empire! I would have listened… I would have understood!

<You remind me of my husband.

>>15922580

Dont remind me. Did they remove Lioneyes Watch flavor noticeboard that said Hillock was a r*pist?

>>15922543

>that the Scion was turned from a woman with second sight touched by the nightmare into an angry feminist man-hater.

This part is absolutely correct

>Not to mention the depiction of a religious empire subjugating native tribes and outcasts into some cartoonish from of charnel house S&M nazi slavery

This part however is more of a first impression that is intentionally put there to distract from the foreshadowing. In Act 3 Maramoa talks of an "undead underground in Oriath" which "does not make for easy sleeping". Then in the pens there are a shitload of marks of Kitava on the ground. Then the natives summon literally Satan in Oriath and then you start murdering the Karui and their god the very second you step foot on Wraeclast again.

>>15922594

No, it is still there, but I think that did retcon Grigor being raped by Kole.

>>15916744

Does Grim Dawn have a demo? I am getting bored of path of exile.

>>15918562

He was using a debuff on you called corrupted blood. It is a bitch of an ailment that you will have to mitigate against if you want to survive later in the game. Use a flask which removes bleeding on use, you can craft one by spamming orbs of alteration on a flask.

>>15920262

Some optional quests give you skill books though.

farm is pain, I hate

save me from the torment of Oni

>>15922911

>If anything I'd expect tencent

I doubt they will fuck with their money cows. Chinks in tencent understand how "core audience" work unlike western (((companies))). They usually dont fuck with core audience and just keep doing what they were doing before. I expect new currency which require few more stash tabs/new special stash tab. For their censorshit and dystopian monetization reasons they just have chinese servers with their version of the game. And there is no way in hell they make currency into a bigger stacks. On the other hand GGG is so fucking incompetent it took them some time to make map tab work and they were proud of it. Also unique item tab is coming whenever ggg finally make it work or need a money injection. Although they did introduced private leagues with expire timer so in a way you are 100% correct.

>>15922922

You can write /passives in chat to see what you are missing.

>go to act two.

>get Silk to turn around.

>find out why they call him "Silk".

>>15922911

>How hard it is to farm orbs of resec? Are they farmable at all? At what level/difficulty they become farmable if yes?

They start dropping the moment you leave Twilight Strand. They aren't super common but you're going to get them slowly by simply playing the game. Respecing sommething like three or four points is incredibly cheap, just do some of the optional quests since the ones that don't give skill points tend to give respec points.

>I noticed that the bigger the mana pool the faster it recovers, especially since active skills don't spend more mana while leveling.

Base mana regen rate is based on your maximum mana and mana leech rate caps at 25% of your maximum mana per second. The amount you leech is dependent on both the damage you deal and how many hits you deal.

>Is bleed good at high levels? Are bleed builds a thing?

Bleed builds are a thing and they are good at high levels. I would not recommend doing one on your first playthrough.

>Should I aim for more damage or more survivabilty nodes?

Both. Just look at what big node you want to go to next and then see what else you can grab along the way. In general, you only want life, damage and speed. Things like resistances and defences, although still good, should not be your priority.

>>15923024

>I would not recommend doing one on your first playthrough

Why? Too gear dependent?

>tfw playing that tri curse herald of agony build

I didn't like the SRS, skeliies or totems but for some reason having a giant invincible chaos scorpion rolling around with me feels alright.

ALRIGHT NIGGERS SINCE OLD GUILD DEED STARTING A NEW ONE

I'll goy out for the tabs if we actually have more than five members on at any one time, hit up HH_PoE if you're in

>>15923854

Old guild is not dead we have 2 players.

>>15923205

>Why? Too gear dependent?

Well, not really. I mean, if you really want to do it, consult the wiki. Just know that you will probably not make it to late end-game.

>>15924206

Well ok, do the bleed build, since you're probably not going to fight Uber Elder anyway.

>>15924206

>>15924254

Hol up, if it's not end-game viable why did you say that it's end-game viable?

I mean I don't exactly want to make bleed build, it just kinda werks for me now.

>>15924548

There are difference between "you cant do it" and "build cant do it". Also bleed sucks ass and no one should play it as their 1st build. Also some bosses are just immune to some random things because fuck you.

Usually there are difference betwee endgame and endgame bosses. By endgame usually mean red maps and by bosses mean uber elder, shaper and uber atiziri. Fighting them reuires different set of flasks, skills and other shit like maxed auras for extra resist. While bosskiller can do everything they still need to change setup. And most endgame builds are not very well suited to fight these bosses, while they still can do it.

>>15924548

That is based on how far you consider end-game to start. Some define it as the end of Act 10, others define it as yellow maps and others only consider bosses like Pale Council and Uber Atziri as end-game. It's viable but, considering the lack of game knowledge, you will probably struggle in situations which experienced players would consider incredibly easy and obvious. So I have to leave a bit of room for lack of experience. Bleed is incredibly good for mobs, which is why I chose to say to do it anyway in the end, but it isn't that good for higher tier bosses, which is why I was hesitant. But in the end, you can still do the end-game content (in this case meaning Uber Atziri and Pale Council) perfectly fine with bleed but it will be difficult because you need to stay alive longer on top of the issues from inexperience.

>>15924589

>Also bleed sucks ass and no one should play it as their 1st build

Bleed doesn't suck ass, it is actually really good, especially if you go Haemophilia bleedsplosion Gladiator. It simply struggles with bossing.

>Also some bosses are just immune to some random things because fuck you.

Almost all immunities are gone now. The only ones left are freeze and stun immunities so that you can't simply trivialise content.

Also is blind any good?

Can it be used as replacement/supplement for evasion?

Does it affect enemy spells?

>>15924655

Champion is still good, it simply isn't made for clearing with bleeds, but it does have nodes that will help a lot for bleed single-target. You can do the following instead: taunt nodes for normal and cruel, then the adrenaline node for merciless. But, if you haven't allocated ascendancy points yet, then just do normal lab again and just take Gladiator instead this time. For Gladiator just go with the bleed nodes and then whatever else you may want for merciless and uber. As nice as the single-target with bleed is with Champion, bleed is still for killing trash and not killing bosses so trying to make it a single-target skill will simply make it below average for both instead of making it really good for one thing.

>>15924687

Blind is incredibly good, it instantly reduces enemy hit chance with attacks by 50%. BUT you need to remove Iron Reflexes then, since otherwise that only gives you an extra 2.5% chance to evade attacks.

>Can it be used as replacement/supplement for evasion?

Not an outright replacement but even if you have no evasion nodes, it still provides you with a bonus. Goes without saying but evasion helps make it really good.

>Does it affect enemy spells?

No, spells always hit meaning that evasion doesn't reduce their crit chance.

>>15924697

What's the alternative to bleed if I want champ? Crits? Are there good support gems for crits?

Also how does melee character resists spells? Just by capping elemental resistances? Is there some other mechanic on top of that?

>>15924697

Forgot to mention one thing, if you aren't going Champion then you need to invest into accuracy. Not necessarily on the tree (although it does help) but on your gear at least. Alternatively get Resolute Technique (keystone on left side of the passive tree) and never have to worry about accuracy ever again.

>>15924710

Champion is very good for crits. Enemies not being able to evade means that the crit chance indicated by your character screen is actually what your crit chance is. Also don't take Fortify as a melee character, there are better ways to have that 20% less damage taken.

>Also how does melee character resists spells? Just by capping elemental resistances? Is there some other mechanic on top of that?

Block, spell dodge and simply facetanking. Gladiator is built for block but if you take those bleed nodes then you won't have enough ascendancy passives to cap block and spell block. Don't go block Gladiator as your first character. Spell dodge usually isn't worth it unless you are on the far right side of the passive tree where you can get Phase Acrobatics. And if you facetank you DEFINITELY need capped resists: since the game is balanced around 75-75-75-0 having only 50% elemental resist means you are taking 200% the amount of elemental damage you would when capped.

>Are there good support gems for crits?

I usually don't go crit but there's two crit gems. One for crit multiplier (ie. damage) and one for crit chance. I'm sure another Anon will be able to help you there

>>15924736

And on crits, get a Diamond Flask as soon as possible if you do crit. It is by far the strongest thing for crit builds. The wording says chance is lucky, which simply means that it rolls twice and picks the one best roll. Since it is crit CHANCE being lucky and not crit damage, best roll simply means rolling twice and if one of them crits then you crit. If you remember math class from school, the way to calculate your effective chance during a Diamond Flask is to simply calculate the chance to not crit and subtract that from 100%.

(1 - (chance to not crit)^2) = effective crit chance

>>15924753

You will be able to buy any gem you want (except Added Chaos Damage support , Empower/Enhance/Enlighten, Portal, Detonate Mines and Vaal gems) in Act 6 and Act 10. But Blood Magic is useful.

>using life for auras

Don't do that unless you are a Guardian.

>>15924753

If you want to do that just get the blood magic keystone on the tree, it has a 50 reduced mana reserved and doesnt come with a huge mana multiplier

>>15924765

No I mean using 2 auras so I have 0 mana and using health for attack skill.

>>15924770

How would that work with auras? Will my health be reserved instead?

>>15924822

Is this bait? Somehow I don't think it's not uncommon for people to think they can reasonably and reliably make a profit by six linking t1 items.

>>15924655

Champion has free 95% chance to hit aura and its fucking amazing for crit/coc builds. And just any attack build, its fucking great.

>>15924866

People use that ring a lot for clear mind though

>>15924866

you can run auras with HP if you have a LL build and you tank hits with ES

>>15924876

With the blood magic node though?

>>15924882

yes, you use it to reserve HP and that triggers the LL node for massive damage on top of your auras

>>15924885

I know people do it with the gem, but the question he had was with the node, not the support gem.

>>15924885

Feel free to prove me wrong, but you should never run the blood magic node when doing a low life Shav's build. You can get down to the percent running two auras with the blood magic gem then have your mana free for more auras or Indigon shenanigans.

>>15924858

>95% chance to hit aura

The taunt node gives 100% chance to hit because it says "cannot evade attacks" and not "ignores evasion rating". Unless, of course, you mean running War Banner with a shitload of aura effectiveness. That is one of the benefits of Champion taunt and Resolute Technique: even if you have unlimited accuracy you still have a 5% more multiplier.

>>15924892

Mortal Conviction behind the Blood Magic keystone gives you 50% less mana reserved, that means you can move all the auras on your mana onto your life. But unless you were using prism guardian (And even then, since 3 auras are probably not enough to cover your life), you can also have more auras since the blood magic gem doubles the cost of the auras.

>>15925262

You can use banner.

>cape without paying

Do the challenge, get the mediocre yellow cape.

All retro inspired gaming is trash. It's a big game of pretend, like a hipster's.

If you want Diablo 2, play Diablo 2 and its mods. When you feel you've had enough, be happy because that's important. It means you've grown. You don't have to play a Diablo 2 clone to keep having fun, for it would be impossible to, you are now a bigger guy on an adventure to find something new.

>>15925162

It is still not worth it. Even in the absolute best case it is still not worth it over simply reserving more mana. That less modifier is worthless because you are losing 50% of your reservation pool in exchange for a 50% less reservation modifier and a small amount of life. If it were reduction or 51% less, you might have a case supporting using the Blood Magic keystone for auras but at 50% less it is unjustifiable. Literally the only thing that it could work for is Hierophant's ascendancy node that would give you 100% reduced mana cost.

>you can also have more auras since the blood magic gem doubles the cost of the auras.

You CAN'T have more auras with the keystone, that is the whole point. With the gem, yes you can have more auras, but with the keystone you can't.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Stat#Less

>>15925417

What the fuck are you talking about? If you are using shavs, picking that keystone is extremely good.

>>15925417

>Even in the absolute best case it is still not worth it

It depends on setup. Blood magic is good with staforge pure physical damage builds.

>>15925917

>If you are using shavs, picking that keystone is extremely good.

And how you will use skills without HP regeneration, you retard? Or you plan to keep HP regeneration without zealot oath so you will die on 1st pack without ES regen.

>>15926043

Are you fucking retarded? Occultist + marauder curse + ghost reaver you fucking nigger, there are tons of reduced mana reserve on the way to those 2, and you use vitality + kizarazu

>>15926273

You haven't read my post at all, the blood magic gem DOUBLES THE COST OF YOUR AURAS, IT HAS A MULTIPLIER.

For fucks sake.

>>15912925

That picture is fake and gay

>>15928182

Resistances don't really matter that much while leveling unless you're on hardcore. Just buy an aurumvorax and run purity of elements and you shouldn't have any issue. Outside of hardcore, dying doesn't really matter until you're around 90 when dying loses you hours worth of exp, or if you're in a shaper guardian map and number of portals left actually matters.

>>15928182

You don't need to be overcapped while levelling, in fact you don't need to be overcapped at all, it is just a situational benefit.

The Syndicate did nothing wrong. Jun is a bitch.

>>15924916

Later on you kill that mouthy bitch

An even mouthier, more GURL POWER bitch with a lisp replaces her

You can choose to give the title of chieftan to the dude to fucking spite her

This is one of the few choices, if not the only real story choice you ever make in PoE

>>15930213

Probably. Half of them just people who cant make friends in any other way and other half are just jobless and bored.

>we captured you, your final words?!

>how about you let me go? I have a dinner appointment, making a new friend, I am.

>You can go.

Also she sound like a child, she might not know how world works at all. She might not know what a "friend" means.

And compared to players they are saints.

>>15930267

>this nigga reads dialogue

What a nerd.

>>15930432

>pain

Nope. Even if it worked it makes no sense to use with crown and having lowlife melee bloodmagic. That is a shitty idea for no fucking gain at all. Just forget Crown exist at all, its never worth it. You might think "but what if I have suped weapon with crazy crit and dps and attack speed so I can make hybrid CoC build?" If you have it, than do regular melee build, dont fucking bother making abomination. If you want silly build make a scourge summoner.

>Clearmind

Works great with blood magic. But I am not sure if its worth it, these days. You can easily get 30% increased damage +some good stats on jewel easily.

>>15930460

If you run an essence worm, it's pretty worth it for single aura builds

>Have the urge to play PoE again

>Disconnected from the patching server before patch could be completed

>look online for fixes

>this is a 5 year old problem

>uninstalling/reinstalling does nothing

>running as admin does nothing

>adding some line of text to the end of the Target line of Properties does nothing

>can't even patch the fucking game

Holy shit how poorly made is this thing.

>>15930432

It used to say "Modifers to spell damage also apply to attacks" or something like that, but everyone used RF + PA to pretty much double their attack damage so it got nerfed to the ground. The answer is no.

>>15932784

If you solve installing problem you will have to deal with myriad of other problems, so its for the best.

Remember when this crap was falsely sold as a spiritual sequel to Diablo 2? When it's everything bad in modern indies embodied.

Meanwhile actual Diablo 2 continues just fine through mods, and the buffoons who fells for this crap are now as battered housewives as blizzdrones.

>>15934957

>learn self-restraint

What?

>>15934972

From what I have understood, Anon is playing poe.trade more than he is playing the actual game. If poe.trade demands a particular item, all of a sudden he has to go get it. Unless he means that he intends to get a Headhunter by farming Spider Forest, which is even more sad.