/v/ - Video Games

>>15853768

Self regulation never achieves anything. The free market fixes nothing.

>>15853805

Correct. It's the last throw of the dice.

>>15853768

Shareholders will probably push publishers into making even more cashgrabs as hard as possible until they can just sell stock and poof from the world into some fiscal heaven while everything burns, wait for a few years and repeat the cycle when videogames becomes a somewhat respectable hobby again

>>15853768

It took EA and DICE fucking up this big to directly threaten the entire industry's greed. Don't give a shit about them flopping off, just gonna play the real Battlefront 2.

>>15853876

Fucking horse armor man.

>>15853876

Too long.

>>15853768

>self-regulate

This doesn't fucking work when it comes to money. When the fuck are people going to learn that? Loot boxes are done because they make money, and no company is going to willingly stop making money. The fact is that loot boxes are just gambling, which is illegal for those under 18, and illegal in most places in the US. It's just a way to get people hooked on spending on stupid shit. Kill it now.

>>15853919

>There will be no microtransactions and lootboxes in Battlefield Sexism!

>This new Open World update after 3 months has them!

They can't, they just fucking can't stop.

How isn't loot boxes gambling? With micro-transactions you actual get to know what you're getting, even if the prices are outrageous at times. Loot boxes uses rng to determine what you'll get. Sometimes it's good and you get a little more than what you put in, but most of the time, you'll get junk no matter how much you put in. I'd rather go back to game expansions since there is more substantial content in them than what we get in DLC that can also be prepackaged with a season pass.

>>15853940

Famous last words.

>>15853919

Of course it doesn't work that's why they want it.

>>15853971

Post merula lewds please.

>>15853949

It's 100% gambling. It's a relatively new concept though so legislation hasn't caught up.

>>15853984

Thanks.

>>15853984

Didn't even realize that was shadman for a second. I just thought it was generic deviant art.

>>15853876

You know how long.

The industry refuses to regulate loot boxes. Why else would the government reach this point?

>>15854614

They've used the ESRB, and their self regulation, as a way to harm competitors rather than actually do what it was intended to do. So naturally, it is going to bite them in the ass.

>>15853805

True, but to be more accurate, self-regulation only leads to the actors seeing what they can get away with. If the invisible hand worked, and let it be clear it only would do so if every actor was completely rational, ie. only bought the best product at the best quality/price ratio, then cutting corners and shafting customers would logically lead to punishment. Since it doesn't and anti-consumer practices are allowed to exist at all, let alone thrive, the invisible hand idea is clearly out the window in our current economic climate. It's not even an argument at this point, it's putting two and two together.

At the moment, the equilibrium point the free market can ever hope to achieve is not the best of both worlds but juuuust below Battlefront II.

This is why, when the consumer is not willing to punish bad practices, some measure of government intervention is simply needed. Proponents of the true free market forget (or maybe conveniently ignore because they mostly roll for corporate) that the consumer would still be too much of an irrational dumbass to regulate anything. That would not change, and neither would be the inherent imbalance.

>if the industry didn't take steps to self-regulation, Government legislation would be like a "sledgehammer"

That doesn't even matter at this point, since they already have self-regulation. The ESRB gives games AO ratings if it allows gambling with real money. They just decided that lootboxes don't fall under that, and that it's up to the gambling authorities to decide if it is.

The fact that the ESRB, PEGI and other organizations like it haven't even given the vaguest of hints that lootboxes might need to be classified as gambling shows that the self-regulating authority doesn't give a shit.

>>15854944

The government has been meddling and been involved with the economy for so long, there hasn't really been a free market for quite some time. About 100-120 years. The "free market" doesn't work because companies will make use of government regulation, tax breaks (I ain't for most taxes myself), and general incentives that the government provides in order to get a leg up on other companies/corporations.

So really, this is a continuation of getting government more involved which will have negative consequences in the future (I don't think state or federal government should regulate gambling either, btw). But this possible regulation may happen because of people shouting there "ought to be a law" and the state could make more money by regulating it.

But regulations are bad. All they do is stifle the industries and hurt the economy. The free market will fix this issue like every other issue.

>>15853876

Not sure about an exact date for the first microtansaction but loot boxes started on the 30th of September 2010, that's when valve introduced their cancerous crate system and everyone else copied them after idiots gave Valve billions though it.

What i'm wondering is how this will effect TCGs.

>>15854964

>He actually thinks business owners will stop being greedy fucks if you remove all regulations

How are you even able to breathe when you're this braindead?

>>15853805

>Self regulation never achieves anything. The free market fixes nothing.

It does, its just that it only works when aryan people do it, the problem with western nations right now is they are low trust societies full of scum who have no concept of things like dignity or honor. We live in a society where success is dictated solely by the size of your bank account rather than the content of your character and your actions, and this is merely one manifestation of the consequences.

Lolberts like in a magical reality where political power is magically generated by governments. Presumably back in the day when first settlements became large enough to form coherent interfamily polities, a group of leading shamans came together to summon an evil spirit that grants ability to suppress others to legimate governments and only legimate governments. If this spirit was finally succesfully exorcised, nobody would be able to force anyone else to do anything ever again.

>>15853768

Good.

Regulate everything.

Never give freedom to corporations.

>>15853805

>>15853919

This.

>>15853864

Video games becoming (((respected))) was what started the decline.

>>15855646

Around 2007 western companies started dumping crazy money into commercial timeslots on tv for COD4, Gears of War, and Asscreed.

>>15855686

>2007

It's always that year.

>>15854979

>being a lolbertarian

>still

M-m-muh free market.

Tfw your greed is to much even for the government regulators

>>15853768

OY VEY LITERALLY ANOTHA SHOAH