/v/ - Video Games

I dream of a day Squarenix goes ok we're sorry have every Dragon Quest Monsters Super Compilation in nonpozzed english translation

it will never happen

>>15821875

Probably mystery dungeon or rocket slime

Somebody please tell me my favorite spin off

>54

Game Journos need to fucking hang on ropes

Crisis Core is the best Final Fantasy game since X tbh.

>>15822070

I think the low rating came from being the exact same game released a dozen times. Now, if they could do that consistently, they wouldn't qualify for free helicopter rides.

>>15822085

>I think the low rating came from being the exact same game released a dozen times.

Explorers of Time was rated 60 ( https://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/pokemon-mystery-dungeon-explorers-of-time ) and Blue Rescue Team was rated 62 ( https://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/pokemon-mystery-dungeon-blue-rescue-team ) so no.

Probably Pokemon mystery dungeon:blue rescue team.

Only somewhat related but remember in 7th gen how everything got rebooted as a dark and gritty third/first person shooter? Most people I saw hated that but I wonder if it would have gone down better if they had been marketed as "Spin-offs".

Dragon Quest Monsters series

And that FF12 spin off where you used monster dquads to fight other monster squads

Unironically Dirge of Cerberus

>>15822294

Atlus usually gives series/subseries one or two tries to catch on at best, especially when they're third party that they're picking up (see Luminous Arc being dropped by them after the second game, or them not bothering with Endless Frontier EXCEED).

Not sure if it's actually good, but another spin off, Summon Night X, has been fan-translated. Meanwhile, apparently EarthDarkness vanished in the ether once again, thus stalling SCS3's patch again.

Persona. It's a good spinoff of smt.

>>15821875

Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion.

>>15822288 (Checked)

That you Clemps?

>>15822305

Weird that a spinoff is more true to the games lore than the actual series. Has this been the case with any other series?

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>>15821875

I'm legit fucking reeeeing

If you unironically like pokemon mystery dungeon, kill yourself.

>>15823014

Nice bait faggot

>>15822265

Recommended it to a friend, and played for a while to show him some stuff.

>hurr, is not serious like MGS, where is the drama?

>Raiden never dies, he is a god or something.

>Where is muh stealth? (kind of valid)

>A robot dog? that's silly!

>What are those ball thingies!? they look silly! (didn't play MGS4 or even watched it)

>hurr, he is throwing helicopters and tanks at you and you just slice them, that looks silly!

>why do you keep ripping those blue things? is the game that easy?

Different people different tastes, but man, I hate when people completely miss the point of a spin-off, specially when they are the same people who wanted to play as Gray Fox or liked Ninja Gaiden.

mystery dungeon is boring and repetitive

>>15823007

The creature in the second pic already gives me a raging boner.

The Mario RPGs are almost all top tier.

>>15823152

Those kind of people don't want to have fun in the first place. I've noticed that retards who complain that spin offs aren't like the main game usually play games "for the story." What the fuck is the point of playing the game then? Read a book if you want a story, you dumb niggers.

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>>15823014

The problem with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is that there's better Mystery Dungeon games.

>>15824191

In terms of story, characters and world are there?

A lot of mystery dungeon games tend to be pure dungeon crawler, with very little elements that you're in an RPG besides the leveling and skill system

>>15824191

>The problem with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is that there's better Mystery Dungeon games.

The other Mystery Dungeon games didn't make me cry so no.

>>15824191

but most of them aren't released in EU so i cant fucking play them.

I really wanted to try Etrian mystery dungeon.

>>15824294

They're console Rogue clones, I guess you just prefer the Pokemon rpg parts.

Gameplay wise these games are all mostly the same but PMD Rescue Team/Explorers have the best stories and soundtracks in the genre so they are objectively the best games in the genre.

>>15821875

>posting the spinoff of a spinoff

go play actual mystery dungeon

>>15824983

Just emulate it, citra's working right now. There's also SNES, PS1, PS2, and DS releases.

>>15824857

Dipshit professional reviewers who expected a pokemon game, got disappointed, and made no effort to appreciate the game for its own merits.

If you look at the metacritic review ratings, all of the negative ones boil down to idiots who don't know what the genre is. A few lambast it (ridiculously so) for not adding enough extra content, but the majority are like this:

>Explorers of Sky is just another lousy spin-off barely worth playing at all. That is, unless you have a thing for dungeon crawlers and outdated gameplay mechanics.

>The story isn't interesting enough to keep you involved, and the gameplay doesn't elevate past mashing attacks for combat.

> Weak, tiresome and devoid of almost any excitement whatsoever.

>Explorers of the Sky proves one thing: Pokemon's a fantastic classic RPG, but it still doesn't work as a dungeon crawler.

>Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky suffers from one-sided characters, an annoying mission structure, and the often-confusing menus.

tl;dr game reviewers never played a roguelike in their life prior to it and hated it.

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>>15825032

Kind of funny that even RPG focused sites gave them low ratings. RPGamer gave BRT a 1.5 (out of five), Darkness a 2.5, Time didn't get reviewed, and Sky got a 2. RPGfan gave BRT a 68%, Darkness and Time a 75%, and didn't even bother with giving Sky a go. For comparison, the former gave Shiren DS and Wii a 1.5 and 2.5 respectively, while the latter gave them an 87% and 91% (though, it's not like the Shiren fan was the guy reviewing Pokemon).

World of Warcraft is the worst spin-off of all times. There aren't many games you could claim they managed to kill an entire genre, but WoW is certainly one of them.

Thanks to this game all current MMORPGs have hubs where players stay all the time and only leave to do instanced shit, have barely any commerce since items get bound to accounts/characters, have barely any interaction between players because everything is automated with shit like party finders and auction houses, have shit like daily quests and so on. MMORPGs aren't designed to feel like living worlds anymore and the MMORPGs that were (e.g. Ultima Online and Ragnarok Online) were either ruined by updates to make those games similar to WoW or simply are too old and don't have enough players to make a MMORPG work well.

Fuck this game.

>>15825370

That's really fucking disappointing out of RPGamer and RPGFan. I expected a lot better of them; I'll try to chalk it up to fluke, but goddamn that's IGN God Hand tier

>>15821875

Final Fantasy spinoffs are almost always superior to the actual games.

>>15822363

This is genuinely quite sad. Especially when there aren't really similar games.

I fucking loved the idea of jRPG with 2D-fighting game combat instead of turn-based battles. Instead of more of this shit that progressively gets more polished with each entry, we are stuck with 2 entries of pretty mediocre games.

>>15822642

Most of Final Fantasy spin-offs.

Other than that it can get hard. It requires long running series so it would have a chance to change from the original.

>>15829539

>Especially when there aren't really similar games. I fucking loved the idea of jRPG with 2D-fighting game combat instead of turn-based battles.

Isn't the "Tales of" series exactly that?

>>15828876

Might be just my own limited experiences, but I usually found (are rather, used to find), RPGamer to be a lot more harsh on things than RPGfan was, for better or worse. At the same time, while there's overlap with roguelikes and dungeon crawlers to be had within the more broad RPG spectrum, clearly they ought to be having fans of those particular subsets being the ones reviewing them for other fans, to better know what people want out of them, what to look for, what to complain about, etc. And if one wants to do a more general review, state as such that it's being aimed at those perhaps not fans yet by someone that is themselves not big on it (as there is still merit to such, it just needs to be disclosed and/or have multiple reviews). However, I assume it's a case of who's free on hand at a given time, and a notion that people are interchangeable for making reviews despite differences in tastes, rather than using the right person for the right jobs.

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>>15829576

Swordcraft Story's combat handles similarly to the 2D Tales combat, but the latter has more emphasis on arte combos and party usage, as opposed to solo combat and needing to strategically use limited abilities and items.

>>15828876

Not really

http://archive.is/qMmim

>No Pokemon Snap

I don't even know this board anymore.

>>15829695

Unless it's Fatal Frame I can't imagine a game about taking photos being any fun.

>>15829629

Is this person friends with John? This review is literally nothing but drivel, what the fuck happened.

Thanks for letting me know about this anon, it seems like they aren't worth trusting period.

>>15829617

I know they're harsher on Japanese RPGs, but its annoying to see them seeming to have a preference for western RPGs that aren't even all that good. I remember them giving dragon age cisquisition, Skyrim, and ME3 all a 4.5/5 while the dragon quest games never get higher than a 4/5 and usually got even less.

>>15821875

You posted it, so much better than the mainline games it's ridiculous how it's glossed over.

>>15829770

Agreed.

>>15821992

Some of the 3DS ones have been translated already, Terry and Joker 3 I think

I’ll say Ace Attorney Investigations 2.

>>15821875

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>>15825011

Lots of excellent taste in this thread.

>>15821875

I can see Dragon Quest monsters becoming a mobile goldmine for them

Chocobo tales was honestly the most fun i've had with a Final Fantasy game since Tactics Advanced. I feel like not banking on making actual cards was a missed opportunity

>>15829734

You can run it on a phone at this point and the game is about 3 hours long, try it before you judge it.

>>15829760

RPGfan usually seemed more balanced, if not outright eastern friendly, in my past readings of it (to the point that occasionally they'd be some of the few people encouraging giving particular games a chance, like GoHV, which didn't fare all that well with other outlets). These days though I'm not so sure; there's more prevalence of western triple A and indie games getting the Editor's Choice status, even VNs are getting it over actual JRPGs, and if you look closely enough you can see there's holes in their review rosters of games no one's deemed worth reviewing, which hampers overall usefulness. Not sure if that's indicative of change in industry quality or something to do with the site's staff/interests, but it's certainly noticeable compared to prior generations. I honestly don't go there that much anymore anyhow.

Also, simply because I had the page open, the Vita Shiren was also apparently quite well liked by the guy jew (name pings the j-dar) that did it. Strikes me that maybe Pokemon just has a stigma that leads to spinoffs like Mystery Dungeon being handled by more traditional fans not expecting the gameplay change (despite it being apparent in the title), rather than the entire outlet disliking roguelikes.

>>15829854

Why not just emulate it with PPSSPP? Shit is smooth as butter, allows you to upscale models and textures, and has fully functional netplay.

MHP3rd worked like a charm with two of my buddies.

>>15829862

>Chocobo tales was honestly the most fun i've had with a Final Fantasy game since Tactics Advanced.

I loved Chocobo Tales too, too bad the sequel never got localized.

>any good PSP games to emulate? i only have PW, PW and ac!d

I liked MGS Portable Ops more than Peace Walker, you really should give it a go. I recommend Crisis Core, Patapon, Jeanne D'Arc and Loco Roco too.

>>15830317 I meant to quote >>15830210

>>15830210

7th dragon 2020 was pretty fun

>>15830210

Unfortunately I don't know of any sites like that for the Metal Gear games.

As far as games, I liked Digimon World Re:Digitize, the Monster Hunter titles, Dracula Chronicles X and Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai. Most people I talk to swear by Lumines but I found it to be pretty boring.

>>15829965

It's been awhile since I used RPGfan but I remember they gave Mass Effect 3 something like 95% and said that it raised storytelling in video games to a new level. That's around the time I stopped using that website.

>>15830336

Reminder that 2020-II has had an English patch released if you want more.

>>15830441

Cisquisition and life is strange are currently in their top tier of PS4 RPGs (though that meaning's always been loose with them, considering they cover Zelda and the like), and as an aside, it seems like whoever they've got reviewing Gust games these days don't exactly like them much (Ayesha Plus hasn't even been given a review).

>>15830210

If you're big on Final Fantasy, Dissidia Duodecim is a must. Mega Man Powered Up is an interesting remake of the first MM game. I honestly haven't played a lot of psp titles, though.

The Ranger games were pretty neat.

>>15831129

I can see someone considering Zelda a RPG, but Life is Strange? RPGfan is a joke.

Nier

Metal Gear Rising

>>15822265

>Revengeance

Muh bland enviroments

Muh wacky japanese gaems

Muh shitty music

Muh how do I evade

Muh NOT A REAL METAL GOURD

The normalfags absolutely remember it like this.

>>15845720

This looks like fun

>only had an EU release

darn

>>15829854

Elitism makes you stupid.

1. The bosses of Peace Walker are the lowest point in the series: they're normal enemies with 100X health and respawns. It's already a gimped stealth game, why brutalize it like this

2. Fultoning which trivializes stealth and poisoned TPP, actually started here. In MG you had to care about sentries waking up and eventually corpse placement, here you just spirit them away.

Peace Walker is just a glorified mobile game, which wastes a good story on mediocre mechanics.

>>15846707

You do realize DS games aren’t region locked, right?

>>15824286

No, if there is not a core series of games, that doesn't count.

>>15846731

I'm aware, it would just make it more of a pain and more expensive to buy a physical copy for is what I meant by that

>>15847062

I'm very confused by your post

8chan

also >>15849664