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>Spent two weeks on Mega Man and the X Legacy Collections

>Megaman 11 was okayish

Well now if only Crapcom would goddamn release a Duology for Mega Man Legends. MML3 NEVER EVER!

>>15764610

It was better this way, they would have found a way to butcher it.

Best megaman are 2-4

The modern megaman force you to jump/dash/fire which means pressing down like three or four buttons at once, continuously, over and over, trying to spam your fire as you platform, I don't like that.

I like the precision and simplicity of classic megaman. Are there other platformers like classic megaman?

>>15764853

I like the RPGs

>>15764596

MMX1, MMX, X, Armored Armadillo, Magma Dragoon, MMX2 Upgraded X-Buster, X-Hunter Stage 1 and 2, Roll.exe, haven't played it, not interested, I'd rather let it die.

Megaman Zero is the best megaman.

>>15764891

Is a shame the first two were kind of clunky in their mechanics, I really hated the grind in the first, not to mention penalizing you for using upgrades, basically making it pointless to collect them.

>>15764610

Legends was fucking trash. Stop pretending you liked it.

>>15764853

You're beyond wrong.

>>15765056

>>15765053

The best part of you slid down your mother's ass.

>>15765053

Are you talking about Rayman?

>>15764793

I actually really like the vocal theme.

>>15764853

>Implying

X2 was bland as shit. Of all the games, X2 was the only one that did nothing new. Not better than X1, not better than the later sequels.

>>15765881

X2 improved on X1's controls, particularly for dash-jumping off walls. Plus it starts you off with the dash, making different-boss playthroughs more interesting than X1.

>>15766154

>X2 improved on X1's controls

Source.

All X2 did was add gimmicks to gameplay like the bike stages.

>Plus it starts you off with the dash

X1 gives you the dash boots as a mandatory thing in Chill Penguin for you to use throughout the whole game anyway.

X2 was the most forgettable game of the whole series. Even X3 had more character to it.

>>15766255

>Source.

Play the games. X1 requires a tightly-timed dash-button press just before a jump to dash-jump off walls. X2 and beyond allow you to simply hold the dash button and jump, a definite improvement.

Sometimes I don't like doing Chill Penguin first and want to mix the boss order up more. Playing without the dash is pretty boring.

>>15766283

>X1 requires a tightly-timed dash-button press just before a jump to dash-jump off walls

Mate, X1 is my favorite X game and I'm sure this is not true.

>Sometimes I don't like doing Chill Penguin first and want to mix the boss order up more

You don't have to. Quit once you get the boots.

>>15766404

I've finished it countless of times, and used that exact same move without a problem, so I guess I either got used to it to the point I forgot or it isn't like that. And I think it's the last one since I'm thinking about Flame Mammoth's wall climb to reach the arms.

>Gee, that sounds fun.

It's doable, though.

>>15765834

It always bugged me how situational and unfun the pseudodroid forms were in ZXA

really the only good forms were the ones taken from ZX and even then they felt watered down compared to the originals

>>15766404

>>15766377

>>15766283

As far as I remember in X1 I can dash jump by holding the dash button.

>>15766446

Pretty much. The concept of playing as the bosses was half-assed and even by itself it doesn't sound interesting at all. The original ZX forms were a lot more versatile and it was fun to play with them the best being model H.

In ZXA you never used the biometals yourself but you copied other people using them.

My idea of having different characters using different biometals is to have 5 or so variety of movesets per character, it would be nice.

>>15766283

>X1 requires a tightly-timed dash-button press just before a jump to dash-jump off walls.

How about you play the games?

You literally only have to press both dash and jump at the same time for a dash jump.

>Sometimes I don't like doing Chill Penguin first and want to mix the boss order up more.

Then do. It's not stopping you. Unless the bosses are too hard for you then, in which case git gud.

>>15766424

>>15766487

>>15766541

Jesus Christ, is spending 5 minutes to fire up an emulator and get the dash boots and then compare it to X2 games and beyond really that hard?

>hurr durr git gud

Okay faggot, I've beaten X1 without using any enemy weapons, no heart or sub tanks, and no equipment upgrades besides the buster upgrade Zero forces on you at Vile, including entirely without the dash boots using a password that starts off with Chill Penguin beaten but the boots missed. That gud enough for you? I know exactly how to handle every stage and boss without dashing. It was an interesting challenge one time but I have no desire to do it again because dashing is just plain what makes the X series really fun. Don't throw around appeals to skill when you're the one actually unskilled enough to have noticed something before, I'm embarrassed as fuck for you.

>>15766595

oh yeah well i've beaten x1 blindfolded with both my hands up my ass solely by ejaculating on the buttons, get on my level before you brag

>>15766595

The dash is the same on both games, you lying turd.

>Okay faggot, I've beaten X1 without using any enemy weapons, no heart or sub tanks, and no equipment upgrades besides the buster upgrade Zero forces on you at Vile, including entirely without the dash boots using a password that starts off with Chill Penguin beaten but the boots missed.

And I beat X1 backwards through telekinesis while impaling your mum with my dick and helicopter-cocking with her still on it. See how valid you sound?

>>15767693

Seriously, all you have to do in order to stop making yourself look like an imbecile is fire up an emulator and check. Heck, you can even grab a password to load up with the dash boots immediately. Is that really so hard for you infantile ego to deal with?

>>15767721

You're getting baited hard, retard.

>>15767721

Post the proof of your own claim yourself, niggerman. It's your burden.

>>Favorite Mega Man Game

Probably 2 or X.

>>Favorite Series

X.

>>Favorite Mega Man Protag

Mega Man.

>>Favorite Level

Good question.

>>Favorite Boss

See above.

>>Favorite Weapon

Metal Man, because it's funny being able to one shot a boss with it's own power.

>>Favorite OST

Good question

>>Favorite Mega Man Girl

See above.

>>Did you enjoy MM11?

Haven't played it. Can't say I have much faith in capcom to not fuck up anything they touch beyond repair.

>>Would you like to see a new Mega Man game?

See above.

>Favorite Mega Man Game

Mega Man 11

>Favorite Series

Classic

>Favorite Mega Man Protag

Mega Man

>Favorite Level

Star Man

>Favorite Boss

Shade Man

>Favorite Weapon

Mtal Bade

>Favorite OST

Bubble Man

>Favorite Mega Man Girl

Roll

>Did you enjoy MM11?

of course

>Would you like to see a new Mega Man game?

yes

>>15773216

>X gets a remix of Central Highway

>Zero gets a GBA rip of Zero's theme

>SF gets a rip of the main theme from 1, not even the best version

>BN, Legends and ZX get nothing

The remixes being so good makes up for it, but it would've been nice

>>15765053

Nu-uh

Legends 1

>Insanely charming world, graphics, everything

>Decent gameplay elevated by a great selection of weapons and level design that worked to have the controls as part of the gameplay instead of part of the bullshit

>completely interconnected world

<pretty much everything can be circlestrafed to death

Legends 2

>Faster

>Better

>Harder

>Stronger

>bosses are really good and can no longer be circlestrafed, final boss was a treat

<levels aren't as well connected as the first game

<that fucking water dungeon

Legends feel like the return of actually giving a shit about the games instead of churning out sequels like with X5 and onwards and Classic 7 and onwards.

>>15764793

The instrumental soundtrack is absolutely genius.

The jazzy vibes do Megaman a lot of good.

>>15764596

>Favorite Mega Man Game

X4

>Favorite Series

The original NES games since they are all great.

>Favorite Mega Man Protag

X

>Favorite Level

This is way too hard for me to answer.

>Favorite Boss

Sigma and his various forms/fights.

>Favorite Weapon

Probably plasma shot from X4. The one that lingers and damages.

>Favorite OST

Blaze Heatnix

>Favorite Mega Man Girl

Tron Bonne I guess.

>Did you enjoy MM11?

Haven't played it yet.

>Would you like to see a new Mega Man game?

Would love to see X9 if it were done as well as X 1-4 but I get the feeling that wouldn't happen.

Don't forget to play the component mega man fan games:

Mega Man Rock Force

Mega Man SFR

Mega Man Maker

Rockman 7FC

Rockman 8FC

Street Fighter X Mega Man

Rockman 4 Minus Infinity

Fan Games that may never ever forever but where updated a week ago:

MegaMan X: Corrupted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTgEnznMdKA

>>15774551

classic song but you could have picked a better cover.

competent*

>>15779337

Go roleplay someplace else faggot.

why is mega man 9 so damn hard? And why are there people who genuinely don't understand that it's actually harder than all the classic MM games combined? It's it just kiddo's who fell for the "Nintendo hard" meme and think anything that is that resembles IWTBTG is acceptably game design? I've played Kaizo levels in Mega Man maker that are more forgiving then MM9. The only level that is even remotely fair is Gravity Man. I even finally broke down and started using save states just to tank through the game and it's still too damn frustrating to enjoy.

I sware to got this video is not me, pls don't bully

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>>15781653

>why is mega man 9 so damn hard?

according to the official press statement, it's because Inafune has a decanter of crushed gamer souls that keeps him perpetually youthful.

seriously, someone asked Capcom's guy at a convention or press release or something and that was the answer

trial and error*

>>15781709

it's honestly more meaningful without the error. Like if it's just a slog

although, most mega man games are, in fact, trial and error. You make your mistakes and observe until you learn the pattern. Or in the case of 5's power muscler, you slide past and hope for the best because that fucker never knows when he's going to do a short hop

>>15781864

>MM9

>demands perfect execution

>way more unforgiving than other games

Anon, MM9 was my first classic Mega Man game. I found it pretty damn easy, and I've since played through 1 - 8, and I'm currently in the process of playing 11. I do not understand how you can find 9 all that difficult.

>>15781653

It's not that hard you faggot. Holy shit, don't play Rockman 4 Minute Infinity or any other rom hacks.

You could probably get through 9 pretty easily with some Spike guards and the special weapons (Jewel Satellite completely nullifies small enemies and their projectiles)

>>15781670

>MM9 came out a decade ago

>tfw X4 is 21 years old

>at juno on legends

>kills me when we are both at the last bits of health on the second part of the fight

Thank fuck they were nice enough to put a save spot right outside the door.

so this megaman is like a murder unit?

>>15786177

In the original Japanese version, Juno calls Volnutt the same thing Maverick Hunters are called in Japan. Presumably, he had a similar job to X.

>>15782110

>>15783297

Dude I just played through MM1, 2 and 3 today. There is no way MM9 is easy. Your just talking shit. Rockman 4 Minute Infinity isn't that hard ether it just introduces gimmicks but that shit doesn't compare to the trash design that went into MM9.

>>15786604

>I have no idea how to search for memes on google

>>15786604

What's /trs/?

>>15786647

trs is "alt-right", which is not right at all.

>>15786647

is a forum full of left wing homosexuals,feds and Jews to larp as right wing extremist and tries to shill their shit here on 8ch. They are basically Daily Stormer 2.0 but not as funny and much more gay.

>>15786635

>i get "meme" from google

time to go back >>>/cuckchan/

>>15786647

Trans Rights Shills, a group run by a fat autist who overdosed on prednisone to cure his adult acne then got left by his jewish wife and disowned by his liberal family because he was more embarrassing in public than their adopted niglet

>>15786558

I agree that MM9 is hard, but I beat it when it came out on PS3. If I can beat it without save states, so can you y'faggot.

I'd say 1, 2, and 3 are harder than 9, but it has been a long time since I've played those.

>>15786558

Look, just because your brain is somehow hardwired to turn your fingers into flailing sausage tentacles whenever you play MM9 doesn't mean it's difficult. Think about what you've previously said. Most people don't think it's as difficult as you say. You're the only person I've ever seen complain about the difficulty like this. Maybe you should face the facts and consider the problem might not be the game, but you. If the game is genuinely as bullshit as you claim, then you can post examples. Show places where it's unfair. Record yourself playing through a level so we can see if your claims are legitimate or you're just a retard.

Think Capcom will use X's voice actor from MvCI or Maverick Hunter/Day of Sigma. Are they the same?

>>15787368

Shit, for X9 I mean.

also:

the slow to kill enemies also is a big deal because it takes the iteration time to get back to the mini boss or one hit kill kaizo trap or Yoku Blocks even more frustrating. Plus the game is design to discourage farming so trying to re-spawn enemies for energy is a wast of time. This makes the Item shop even more of a core then a benefit because if you want to exploit the goodies then you need to do stupid boring suicide runs just to pick up the bolts around the levels. No other Mega Man game is designed like this one. Maybe if it was your first mega man game and you just assumed the games where meant to be a series of traps then I could understand not being bothered. But no other Mega man game is designed like 9. That also doesn't take into consideration how much damage you take in the game. Nothing does a single bar of health, ever hit takes at lest 1/4 or 1/5th of your health bar with means you need to make it through levels with little to no damage. Its a frustrating game.

chore*

>>15765185

yfw the opening animation of MMX directly states a lot of X's nonessential components were outsourced to corporations, including his eyes and voice synthesis.

X is voiced by a fucking Vocaloid.

>>15787919

>tfw my first exposure to internet fandom culture was an awesome group of people that wrote Megaman X fiction about a mercenary group based in the Mojave desert with a Shadowrun-esque map of a theoretical Balkanized future America between X4 and X5

>tfw one of the most prominent members/leaders was the secret final creation of Dr. Cossack, a parallel to X and Zero, and his name was Axel.

>his gimmick was that he could fly and transform through armor sets/forms rapidly to suit the situation

>this was in the early/mid 00s.

If they ever release X9 and go that route with Axl I'm going to lose my shit.

>>15766446

But suddenly model ZX has all of the Z skills from Zero and you can chain them all into a combos that deals enough damage to 2 shot the final boss.

It's like they genuinely were scared you'd be stuck on the final boss so they just allowed you to blender every fight with ZX now.

>>15787919

The "creators of the robots" were obviously the kids that submitted the designs in the IRL contest that Capcom pulled the designs from.

>>15788370

Cubit Foxtar is a dude

>>15788398

I know.

Megaman x corrupted looking amazing but will it ever be finished?

>>15788319

I know that, but I'm talking about the in cannon game universe. That also depends on if you consider Archie Comics canon (which I don't).

>>15787958

As for the connections from Classic to X. I stopped caring around the time the series clearly grew too edgy to ever fit with the classic aesthetic. The first few games still were tame enough to be plausible but it was round X4 where it started to jumped the shark. I also can't be bothered to try to connect Legends in with X or the Classic series.

>>15787919

>DWN. means it was designed by Dr. Wily

It really doesn't. The MM3 robots were joint-created by Light and Wily, and the MM4 robots were made by Cossack, yet all of them have the DWN designation. So do the MM11 robots, despite clearly being simply stolen and reprogrammed by Wily.

>>15788606

I still don't think MMXC is real, until a playable demo comes out it is nothing but a very well animated fan video as far as I'm concerned.

>>15788666

You do realize your second link still lists them as DWN, right?

>>15788685

Yet the second link still state that DWN = Doctor Wily Number corroborating my claim.

>>15788698

I'm not arguing that. I never meant to argue that it wasn't supposed to mean Dr. Wily Number, just that it effectively didn't, because the Mega Man devs never bothered to keep to that definition.

>>15788685

>The Robot Masters from Mega Man 4 were created by Dr. Cossack, but are listed as part of the DWN series because Wily remodeled them. They are listed under a DCN (Doctor Cossack Number) serial number in the Mega Man Megamix manga.

this should answer your question

http://www.sprites-inc.co.uk/mediawiki/index.php?title=List_of_Official_Robot_Masters#025-032_.28Mega_Man_4.29

its also

>The Robot Masters from Mega Man 4 were created by Dr. Cossack, but are listed as part of the DWN series because Wily remodeled them. They are listed under a DCN (Doctor Cossack Number) serial number in the Mega Man Megamix manga.

>The Robot Masters from Mega Man 4 were created by Dr. Cossack, but are listed as part of the DWN series because Wily remodeled them, making them his own robots.[6] They are listed under a DCN (Doctor Cossack Numbers) serial number in the Mega Man Megamix manga, as they are still Cossack's robots.

>In early versions of the manga Mega Man Megamix, these robots are known as DRWN series (Doctor Right and Wily Numbers). In the Archie comic, Ra Moon serves as the initial creator of these Robot Masters, who are based on the designs of Dr. Wily and Dr. Light instead of being built by them, the exception being Shadow Man who was found in the ruins and reactivated. However, it was stated that Wily redesigned Shadow Man before having Ra Moon restore him, so his upgraded form may also have been conceived by both doctors

https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Robot_Master

>>15788700

DLN and DWN is supposed to mean Dr. Light and Dr. Wily Numbers

>>15788704

Supposed and actual are two different things, though. All I'm saying is that you can't use the DWN designation as an indicator of Wily creating the robots, because it's used for lots of robots that Wily didn't create. Also, I fail to see how AU spin-off comics have any bearing on the official canon of the games.

>>15788666

>* = First Name

>Doctor Light Thomas

>Doctor Wily W. Albert

>>15788790

you know what I meant

>>15788710

The Mega Man Megamix manga was made by Capcom, not Archie Comics and the Robot Numbers is referenced in-game and in the Mega Man & Bass CD Database. But I guess you have a point regarding the Robot No.not essentially indicating the original creator. It seems the system of labeling the robot number came with MM5 and the "DWN." robots. Before that, they were all just labeled as NO.00-32.

>>15789037

I rented this game all the time as a kid. My only regret is that I never saved up enough allowance to buy it.

>>15789042

Out-of-universe, it's probably to draw in the fans of the MMZ series by assuring them that this new series is similar to that one. Like what was done with X's design way back when the MMX series started.

In-universe it's probably because the user is mostly accessing the power of Model Z using Model X as a base. But now that you mention it, for some reason, the X fusion forms look more like the characters they are based on than the other models used by themselves. Like how Model Z doesn't get a helmet, but gets shades instead, something Zero has never worn.

The ZX form does have some very subtle nods to X and Model X, though. Some of the secondary colors are taken from Model X and the design of the helmet looks like a fusion between MMZ Zero and Copy X's helmets.

Wowie, I just beat megaman legends for the first time ever! I can't wait to see what amazing things happen in the second one!