/v/ - Video Games

>>15652298

Elona requires autism and isn't what I'd call "comfy".

>>15652313

>>15652352

I guess that 'god i wish that were me guy' needs something with a bit more innocence than corruption of champions to get off.

>>15652409

>SJW Valley

The trade-off to the shitty "for western audiences" pixel art is a solid mod framework. It's not a bad game mostly from a "mods will fix it" standpoint, and it includes multiplayer.

>>15652474

>race mixing is bad

>but species mixing is not

>>>/zoo/

>>15652474

Not a furry, but this looks much better than the original artwork. At least you have to admire the furries' dedication. If only we were that dedicated in making DOTR happen.

>>15652522

That's actually kind of impressive how it she goes through, what - 20 iterations - and somehow manages to get worse with each and every one until the final approved design.

How do Rune Factory and Harvest Moon games compare to Stardew Valley? What are the differences?

Never played those and I'm not keen on investing the time to shift trough over 20 different console games from those series.

>no one posted Animal Crossing yet

I miss spending hours playing it on Gamecube over winter break. You can't get cozier than playing a game on the couch while wrapped in a blanket

>>15652634

Harvest Moon is about farming and town/village life, whereas Rune Factory takes that and adds Action RPG dungeon crawling too.

Rune Factory is better than Stardew because Stardew's combat is dogshit and the farming becomes laughable after one year.

>>15652698

Animal Crossing is pretty damned comfy, it's true. Even comfier if you've got friends who can come over and visit.

>>15652138

Try something less cutesy and braindead, like the SimFarm of old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimFarm

>>15652634

Harvest moon is pure farming and relationship building

Rune Factory is harvest moon but with monsters you can capture/kill and dungeons to beat.

Stardew valley stole all the ideas and made a pozzed version with a Harvest Moon setting with a little bit of rune factory mixed in.

>>15652783

>survival kids

Interesting I’ve heard about the sequels lost in blue. But the low scores scared me away. How would you rate this game.

>>15652819

It's definitely a good game, but how great it is depends on your preferences. It doesn't hold your hand at all, and there's trial and error involved, but there are also a multiple endings depending on how quickly you get rescued and the method used.

If I had to rate it back in the day it easily would have been an 8 or 9 out of 10, on a proper review scale where 5 is average.

>RF5 fucking never

I want to die.

>>15652835

That’s high prize bo reason not give it a shot I guess.

>>15652840

Doesn’t marvelous own the rune factory title? I thought it was just harvest moon title they didn’t own.

>>15652522

>>15652763

I honestly think the first or 6th design is most on the right track if you changed expression. 2nd is more beautiful, but she isn't a "beauty" kind of character, she's the kind who'd rather be handling a sword than a hair brush. The main problem with most of the top row is that it's very girly and her expressions make her look timid/weak, that's Penny's personality.

Dark souls

Re4

>>15653419

How far are you into your Atelier homework anon?

>>15652275

This one is great, but the Runey autism literally killed the game.

Thankfully I heared that the emulated version comes with a Runey cheat that just lets you skip that whole part.

Never got my fingers on the emulated game myself tho.

>>15652298

I can't find the face down in a field meme, surely someone has it on hand. t. 20gb meme folder Anon, formerly known as 10gb meme folder Anon

>>15652385

FUCK

Polite sage for double post

>>15652522

p r o g r e s s i v e

>>15652312

>Amber is cutest girl.

How can you even spell Forte this wrong?

>>15652312

Time passes just as fine in that game as in the other RFs, and pretty much any farming sim I can remember since it uses the standard 1 second = 1 minute ingame. The only difference compared to early RFs is that time doesn't stop indoors, but you don't spent a lot of time indoors and all the other things that speed the game up more than make up for it.

>>15653878

Who even cares about Forte? The only girl less interesting than her is Margaret, the dullest female around. That Forte keeps acting like a wannabe boy doesn't really help her case.

>>15653885

>yfw you discover he changed her to be his waifu

micoo' from rooster teeths wife who got fat

>>15653895

At what point in the game are you? If you're at the endgame, buy high level golden crops from the stores and cook the most expensive food with it. If you can be bothered, sell them in your shop for a massive profit. By the way, if you tame one of the elephants in (I think) the sechs empire, the ones that have a sucking move, you can suck people to your shop when they would normally have walked past. Not the boss mammoth, it's too big and will make you exit the store.

>>15653910

Yeah quite past endgame. Should be almost 200 hours in.

>>15653914

Thanks for the advice, both of you. I'll try to get back into the rhythm when I have the time.

>>15653898

I care, she's prime bully waifu material.

>>15653884

That just means you are a true patrician.

>>15654182

You have way too many game objects per carrot there buddy. You are going to run into performance issues when you try to upscale it. Use as few gameobjects as you can.

Was thinking of buying a Wii next month during Cyber Monday

What are some good comfy lifesim Gamecube and Wii games?

>>15654211

Why? Looks fine. Like Ann.

>>15652522

I like the last four in the top row the best, particularly number six, because her head isn't as wide and her lips are smaller.

>>15652313

Considering you can just throw some sulfuric acid in her face to cause an abortion and then heal her, I'd say it's pretty comfy.

>>15652313

I also watch Sseth.

>>15654446

Why do people like you come here

Skyrim with the proper mods is the best lifesim you virgins will ever get

those 90s japanese dating sims like tokimeki memorial where you actually improve your character through daily activities rather than just being a visual novel

>>15652474

>furry character design has more effort put into it than the actual character design

if given the choice between bad human character design and furry I'd pick furry any day. Better animals than muh diversity.

>>15654182

Nigga just post the librarian, that'll get everyone's interest much easier considering the average /v/irgin's fetishes.

>>15652442

Mods do literally nothing of interest besides minor QoL changes and bleaching the niggers.

"Little Computer People" on C64. Damn, that's some hot new gaym o)

>>15655680

Why are her eyes shaded so much lighter than everything else? It looks very unsettling to me, for some reason.

>>15655904

It's probably the glasses doing something weird. Notice her hair in the third image.

>>15654182

>>15655680

Keep at it, comfybros.

After playing Rune Factory 4 for an evening, it seems like it's your typical JRPG with a farming mini feature tacked on to it, while Stardew Valley is a sandboxy game about owning/building a farm. It makes me a little annoyed that people even compare these two and say one is better than the other when they're barely alike at all. There's similar surface features but the core focus and gameplay seems to be on a completely different place.

There's typical JRPG tiers of text text text text text text text text text text text text text text, protagonist is a faggy shotabait from /cuteboys/, voice acting as cringeworthy as you'd expect from english speaking people mimicking japanese dialogue and it seems you can't disable it until after the tutorial phase finally lets you enter your inventory screen after 7 hours of dialogue and cutscenes, the item text has a bunch of shit in it that I don't understand (what is "unshipped" supposed to mean? what are the different "value"s) and who knows when/how you'll find out despite the fact that the tutorial tries to teach you much simpler things as if you're a 4 year old, the world seems very rigid (Stardew is more sanboxy with how you can cut down almost any tree anywhere and place furniture in town and there's plants you can collect and debris you clear etc), thanks to being japanese consoleshit the UI is trash (you have to open a menu, press buttons to navigate the item slots, press button to open an item dialogue, then click another button to equip it… vs moving the scroll wheel in Stardew to switch between items in the hotbar)

One of my biggest gripes with Stardew Valley was that the NPCs were (on top of unlikeable as characters) a shitty afterthought, they start giving the same dialogue constantly right from the start and you can't even talk to them more than once per day, so if you meet them again when they're in a special activity or something you can't even start up dialogue. I don't doubt that Rune Factory blows Stardew out of the water in that regard, it kind of already did, but that's if you care enough to sit though a book's worth of text.

Of course that's with only several hours of experinece with Rune Factory, but I'm having hard time retaining my interest because I'm not a big fan of JRPGs which it seems to be more of than a game about farming or owning something.

>>15656277

>Elona is a mostly broken shitshow that requires you to know moonrunes in order to play properly.

>not knowing moon runes

lmao'ing at your life

>>15656277

>Elona

>requires you to know moonrunes in order to play properly.

Elona+ Custom

>>15656717

Unshipped means that you haven't shipped the item through your shipping bin. Value refers to the value of the crops it grows, and that one you should have been able to figure out yourself from the fact that only seeds have that particular stat. You are making mountains out of molehills. Even if the UI isn't perfect, it sure as fuck isn't as bad as you act like.

Actually, that it says "unshipped" should have clued you in to that it probably refers to shipping it out through your shipping bin. If you pay close attention you should be able to notice a connection between "shipping" and "shipping bin".

>>15652474

Just mod Demetrius and Maru white, it's not that hard.

>>15652488

Autists obsessing over cartoon animals is better than the slow destruction of individual races and cultures? A real no-brainer there, yeah.

>>15652522

Top row is so much better overall that it hurts.

>>15657633

This, why doesn't someone who actually gives a shit about this game just fucking mod out the poz? It isn't that hard. It's basically the equivalent of editing bitmap images, hell you can just color swap/shift the niggers white, and remove the problem hair from Abigail, the current goth mod for her is superior anyway.

>>15657633

>>15658221

So now you're not allowed to complain whenever SJW cum is dripping off a game, because "lol just mod it away!"

>>15656185

>>15656277

Fuck RF3, I can't continue playing it because I don't know who to marry.

Even girls I wasn't interesed at first have a great arc that makes them become really cute.

All these great options and no harem route is killing me.

Also not being able to get some of the aras is evil

>>15656717

Holy shit, I think you may have brain problems.

>>15658221

>>15657633

Because even if you mod out the poz, Stardew Valley isn't that good a game anyway.

>>15658572

I have the exact same problem. Almost all the girls have something cute going for them, it's really hard to pick one. I emulated it months ago but left off because I couldn't decide. The Asian/Jew girl is tempting but she sucks at cooking and will give you nothing but burnt shit for breakfast every day. Karina is a lazy bum but she's cute. Colette is kind of stupid but cute. Hell pretty much every girl is "X but cute."

>>15658340

When did I say that? I'm just saying someone should un-poz the game.

>>15658572

>>15658942

RF3 really has the best girls.

I never got to finishing it because something important happens irl and I end up losing interest.

But I always remember its girls are better when I'm playing other games with marriage options.

>>15658986

Starjew Valley is still a shit game even if you mod it.

Rune Factory 3 > 4

>>15659996

I agree but they're both good

>>15660101

I like the characters of 3 better, but the gameplay of 4. 2 a shit, and 1 is obviously a first attempt at a genre

>>15652275

I regret trading in my wii and this game, it was pretty damn comfy

I've never played any of the Rune Factory games, but I'm trying to install Tides of Destiny on my Wii U at the moment, the setting appeals to me.

>>15659996

>>15660756

The only thing i hate about Rune factory is unlike harvest moon you don't upgrade the houses or buy beds.

Using harvest moon/stardew valley style gameplay as a base, what changes/additions would you want in a completely new game?

>>15654182

will there be a dateable anthro or animal? that's all that matters.

still mad to this day that i cant date the dragon in rune factory 4. AS HER DRAGON FORM AND NOT HER SHITTY HUMAN FORM BTW, transforming them into humans doesnt count

>>15688352

Numbers don't render quite right but otherwise works fine.

>>15681561

In the first RF you do have to upgrade your house. It's also a really bad game in general though. In RF4 you also have to buy a double bed and can, optionally, expand your living area with more rooms.

>>15688328

Make friendships less silly. Greatly reduce the importance of gifts. As they are, you just hand them the easiest to get of their favorite gifts each day and that's it. It gets really repetitive and isn't a good simulation of human interaction to begin with. Ideally they should have much more in-depth conversations too.

Don't make it all about the farming. We've planted and watered plants a whole lot of times now, the novelty has worn off. Rune Factory 4 proved that you can make the farming fast and efficient and only be better for it. Actually, make the game fast in general. RF4 is a very fast game for a "Harvest Moonlike". Farming animations aren't tediously long like in previous games in the series, the escape spell makes a fucking gigantic difference in how efficient you can be and once you unlock the airship license early on you can essentially teleport between most save points. It's much more fast paced than any other HM-style game I've played and it makes the game much better. You can often have all your fields watered and harvested and be back home before the daily items are shipped at 8. Then you have the rest of the day to go dungeon exploring, or crafting or any other activity. Give the game more to do than just farming and make it fast. Trio of Towns has put me to sleep more than once because of how horribly slow it is.

>>15688376

So basically you prefer rune factory gameplay.

>>15688482

Basically, yes. I was going to say that but forgot. RF still has the problem with bad friendship building, though.

>>15688376

>Make friendships less silly. Greatly reduce the importance of gifts.

I always say in these threads that the current gameplay loop of "indentify favorite gift, adquire it, gift it, repeat until max friendship" is boring and doesn't lend itself well to world building.

I get the point that these games are about resource aquisition and management and therefore gifts are a natural follow up and a sink for what you find\produce.

However these games end up being more about your relationship with the characters and the world and this should be further explored.

The Main Character should have a reputation in town, with different titles being granted for doing different things and up to 3-5 active at any time. Some of them are easy to adquire but have little effect while others are hard to get and you have to maintain said reputation.

Whenever you talk with someone, your reputation titles would decide the reaction of that person, some positive and others negative.

Additionnaly, you'd have a reputation with every character, a single Title that says how that person in particular thinks about you and changes based around your actions with them.

Finnaly, Talking and Gifting should only ever help to a point, after which they become maintenance only and the rest must be done by actually doing things together.

In terms of relationship levels, you could talk your way up to 3 but you'd need some good reputation to reach 6 and after that, it's going out on adventures together, working on something together, festivals and the like that build the remaining 4 hearts. But you still have to ocasionally talk just to maintain the reputation\relationship

Here's an example of how this would work:

Performing farming actions (hoeing, watering, picking crops) counts up on your Hard Worker and Farmer reputation titles, giving you those titles and even upgrading them depending on how much you do them.

Taking care of your animals and shipping animal products counts up for your Hard Worker and Rancher reputation titles instead.

Simply performing farm work will easily net you the Hard Worker title but you can also specialize in either of the other 2.

If you prefer to mine and craft materials, there's a title for those as well, adventuring and monster slaying too or even fishing or completing errands.

When you talk with a girl that loves animals your Rancher reputation would have a positive effect while the Monster Slayer reputation would have a negative effect.

When you talk with a lazy girl like Karina from RF3, your Hard Working reputation that normally has a positive effect for everyone actually has a negative with her!

After you've reached RL6 with anyone, the rest of the relationship comes from festivals, hanging out or doing errands with and for them. Talking simply helps to maintain your reputation which makes those events more successfull.

You can offset this by giving gifts that will set your reputation with that particular individual. This would usually be something like "Friendly" for talking with them a lot, but it can go to Generous if you give a lot of gifts, "Adventure Partner" if you go out with them a lot or even an item-specific one like "Great Cook" if you gift them good food.

Whatever that character prefers will obviously have a bigger impact when interacting with them, so Forte (RF4) would see the biggest bonus from Adventure Partner while Colette (RF3) would think better if you were known to her as "Great Cook".

This is actually a very simple system to reinforces your gameplay choices and rewards specialization but is flexible enough that it can adapt to you and you can change easily to whatever else you want, with a wide margin of error too. It can accomodate many different kinds of Titles, characters and gameplay choices.

It also helps somewhat with mid or late game. Having many different Titles of reputation means you'd easily kick-start relationships with everyone else around you that were lagging behind.

There's dialogue variety too since every different title can have a proper response to you as well.

>>15688376

Unfortunately harvest moon fans are mostly comprised of women and comfy fags who prefer grinding and slow game play over having to make good decisions about how to manage your time and ways to maximize it. Rune factory was the bastion for people that wanted the evolved form of the harvest moon style of RPG but unfortunately it seems we won't be getting another.

>>15688376

>>15688614

>I prefer to hack and slash and grind XP in an RPG dungeon than get /comfy/ and build a farm

I really hate that these two games are lumped together.

>>15688667

To be fair, farming can get more monotunous than grinding XP after a while, and going on adventures with your waifu is the high point of hack and slash in those games.

Rune Factory does a decent balance with this since you can have your monsters tending the farm for the cash but you can also tell them not to sow Seeds, which lets you do the whole planning which is half the fun in farming.

>>15688341

No furries, there will be cargirls and foxgirls

And a werewolfgirl, woflgirl that is loli by day, adult duing at night

>>15688736

fuck i mean catgirls, just woke up

>>15688736

>cargirls

oh dear

>>15688736

>cargirls

Let's make this happen.

>>15689005

>girls with their top down

>gay

>>15689007

>(((engineered))) contraptions mimicking proper roofs

<not abominations against god

Pick one, heathen scum.

So the Rune Factory games that are worth playing are 3, 4 and Frontier, right?

>>15689569

>So the Rune Factory games that are worth playing are 3, 4 and Frontier, right?

Yes.

Just remember to get AR codes for Runey System if you want to play Frontier.

>>15655228

Careful not to fall for it.

>>15688778

They rely of QOL features because it makes the gameplay easier not because it makes it better, that's the difference. You'll notice that the latest games all have incredibly grindy goals that require months to get to and are locked behind timed events that mean you have to play hours to get all the content.

>>15653885

I made a sort of 'huragh!' noise upon seeing that, well done.

we need some weeb dev to make a proper rune factory clone

>>15654391

Seeing a woman fuck a dog makes me feel less disgusted than seeing a nigger do it or looking at faggots going at it, so he has a point.

>>15693987

Both niggerfucking and dogfucking are interspecies sex, which is disgusting, but the nigger has the added danger of pregnancy. It makes sense for it to disgust you more, disgust is a natural reaction to dangerous things.

>>15652474

>>15658221

>>15652442

There's a very popular mod that turns the nigger and the halfbreed white.

Which good lifesim to play so I can marry an ara?

So anons which Rune Factory game should I play if I want to try the series out ? All I played before was Elona btw.

>>15702566

If you care how it looked before, play them in order: 1>2>3>4.

Otherwise just play 3 and then 4.

Just remember that 1 and 2 will be harder to get into if you do that.

RF3 had best waifus, but RF4 the best gameplay.

RF1 was complete grindfest and RF2 was most disliked one for few reasons.

>>15702566

>>15702633

Nah, just play 4 since it's an improvement on 3.

>>15702566

3, it has a lot of waifus and honestly they're all great.

>>15702566

Release order is perfectly fine and each game has significant gameplay improvements over its predecessor so you might have trouble going back later. 3 & 4 are regarded as the best and what you'll probably end up playing the most. The other anons saying to skip games I'm not sure I understand because you'd be missing out on all of the cute girls from the ones you haven't tried out.

>>15702873

Rune factory is grindy as fuck, not everyone wants to play through 4 of them, especially since a large portion of the gameplay is the SAME grindy shit in every one (harvesting plants/rocks/whatever).

Thank you dear annons, I've decided to go for Rune Factory 3. Mainly seeing as there is no good 3DS emulator to emulate the 4th one with. As far as I know anyway.

I'll make sure to give the previous ones a try someday as well.

>>15703172

>Mainly seeing as there is no good 3DS emulator to emulate the 4th one with

RF4 works perfectly fine on Citra as long you use canary version though.

>>15703346

Didn't Citrus need decrypted game files, which you could only get through some special program ? That's what I remember back from when I tried to emulate Rhythm Heaven Megamix, that it would not wrk with just an ISO

>>15702633

What about Frontier and Oceans?

>>15688736

>cargirls

I'm okay with this

>>15652522

I think this is a good example of not knowing when to quit. Start with something basic, add some flourishes then slam on the brakes you're finished. There are easily 3 different potential characters in this. They could have been sisters, that way there wouldn't be any wasted effort. It's just distressing to me to see those go unused.

>>15703379

Citra needs decrypted .3ds rom and original system files dump from 3DS.

They actually were autistic enough to make open-source system files and it ended up breaking fonts in some games recently.

I don't remember on which canary version it started though.

>>15703462

I am unable to say, because I never played these.

>>15704563

>original system files dump from 3DS

I forgot to mention it only depends on game. Sometimes it isn't needed.

>>15653898

>Forte is worst compared to Margaret

While she's my favorite character, Clorica is super one note. Then there's also the issue of her marriage event which makes legitimately no sense to her character.

>>15688946

>>15703462

Frontier is pretty good, definitely worth a play except for the runey system. You can slog through the runey system or just ignore it for the most part but it'd probably be recommended for most people to just emulate it and get a cheat to disable it.

>>15705246

Pretty much all the waifu's in 4 are kinda bland. Adding in a female protag just means they have to dilute dating content by adding the dude love interests.

>>15703462

I played Frontier and Oceans

this guy >>15705907 is spot on about frontier

Oceans is dungeon crawl focused and most of the farming is done by mobs, it's grindy so I gae up before I got to the 3rd dungeon I think, not bad just really different, like the farming especially.

>>15653898

>That Forte keeps acting like a wannabe boy doesn't really help her case.

>doesnt like tomboys

>>15705978

I took one look at her and dismissed her as a knock off brand saber.

>>15706001

Saber and fate in general is just normalfag tier. People that waifu her are probably the same people that enjoy shit shows like Attack on titan and SaO.

>>15706001

Saber is the first girl they wave in your face and because of that she doesn't get a whole lot of characterization and the reveal about her makes her personality and motivation seem weak. It doesn't help that in the same game the other two routes progressively get heavier on the drama side of things. Also saber doesn't stay with the hero in her route ending. Automatic F.

>>15706015

Doesn't stop it from being shit.

Why the sage?

>>15706024

It really is. Strawberry chocolate loli is too much. Jack also especially rustles the normalfags and SJWs something fierce in the gacha game.

>>15706019

Because I'm off topic you dumb faggot.

>>15706009

>Saber doesn't stay with the hero in her ending

Have you even finished Realta Nua?

>>15706004

>Fate is normalfag tier

Really nigga?

>>15706024

>events

You might be right but unfortunately those are tied to the RNG and I don't have the time or interest to play this game for 8 hours a day hoping to get something interesting.

>>15706043

>>Fate is normalfag tier

>Really nigga?

Are you implying it isn't? Because I can assure you it is.

>>15706055

Then you obviously don't know what you're talking about. If it was at all as normalfag tier as you say I would see more merchandise here in the States from the Fate series or more people referencing it here and there.

>>15652783

1st and 3rd in bottom are OK

>>15705933

Forte isn't even much of a tomboy. She keeps claiming she is, but nothing about her appearance or behavior is tomboyish. She's just horribly dull and never stops talking about not being feminine despite actually being that.

>>15706049

Events being RNG is actually a good thing, with the exception of the ones needed to unlock the last part of the fucking game or ones tied to marriage. It makes the world feel much more alive than "character is at X hearts, now event happens" and then nothing past that. Though more effort should be put in so that characters aren't unavailable for anything for the entire event time unless it's actually needed.

>>15706080

Normalfag tier doesn't mean it's normalfag friendly or on the same level as game of thrones or some other equally garbage shit, it means it's insanely entry level like say, Katawa Shoujo. Of course you don't see it widespread in the west because japanese media isn't as widespread in the west as it is in japan, aside from stuff like soulsborne. Almost every single entry level fag I've EVER met tried to tell me fate is amazing when it's garbage.

>>15706080

Anime is niche in the west. Do you see references to AoT or SaO, no right? And they're pretty much the normal faggiest tier you can get. It's basc entry level shit like index that gets lapped up.

Basically what this guy says:

>>15706108

>>15705978

Fate is trash

Zero is the only good thing about it.

Iskandar, Gil and GARcher best characters, all the gender-swpas and lolis are shit.

>>15706122

>Iskandar, Gil and GARcher best characters

>lolis are shit

Greetings, faggot. I know Stardew Valley is in the OP, but this doesn't seem to be the thread for you. I'll give you that at least Iskandar was entertaining, but Gil in particular is just a prettyboy faggot.

>>15706104

>when watching fate

Well I figured out your problem.

>>15706108

Shall I assume you are talking about the anime and not the VN and/or LN? Because I'll tell you right now, the anime is not a good reference to go by.

>>15706118

>Do you see references to AoT or SaO, no right?

Actually yes I do, have you been living under a rock? I see AoT shirts at the very least weekly, hell I've gone to quite a few yard sales with AoT or SAO merchandise. Quite a few game shops I check out once in awhile carry merchandise like that.

>>15706142

>Shall I assume you are talking about the anime and not the VN and/or LN?

No, I'm talking about all three and the general pervasiveness of fate garbage.

>>15706159

So you've read them? Then explain why its garbage

>>15706142

You're changing it to merch? Then yes I used to see fate merch all the time, regardless fate's popularity has long since passed and it's still in niche stores. Merch /= reference.

The VN and anime are inseparable when referring to the series as a whole and has no bearing on whether or not your special series is totally not for normalfags when the series has spawned shit tons of spin offs and games, you as a VN reader are in the minority and the series has long since left you behind.

>>15706161

I'd prefer not to do this in the lifesim thread but here we go

>pacing is complete dogshit, go 2 hours with next to nothing happening to 3 minutes of intense action and around and around we go

>protagonist is s completely unlikeable mary sue, acts like a retard constantly (BUT YOU'RE A GIRL SABER) and obtains powers he never earns

>all the girls are shit in their own personal but deep ways, Rin is generic garbage who's only defining feature is knowing how to use magic, sakura is essentially a worm onahole with no personality, saber is just a pseudo-coodere with even less personality than sakura

I kinda liked Ilya because she was the only one that had a defining personality but then she just became another part of Literal Sword's harem

>plot has no focus, keeps changing directions from character drama to chuunishit with no substance

Could go on, but I think this is enough. My gripe isn't even really with the original fate though, it's with all the stuff that has spawned off of it, like the mobage that is single-handedly withering away the japanese VN industry.

>>15706167

>You're changing it to merch?

How else would you "see" a reference? Unless you meant read/heard a reference, then yes that still applies. When SAO was at its height of its popularity I heard many people who were into web shit mention it, same as AoT which I began to watch myself until it devolved into "everyone is Titans!"

>>15706187

>pacing is complete dogshit, go 2 hours with next to nothing happening to 3 minutes of intense action and around and around we go

Then VNs aren't for you, or books for that matter it seems.

>protagonist is a completely unlikeable mary sue

This is where I stopped taking your argument seriously. If you think Shirou is a Mary Sue then you probably didn't read it or you just barely glanced over it.

>>15706225

Great arguments, really showed me

>>15706187

You forgot the "masters fight masters, servants fight servants" idea which got subverted very early on.

I've had a few problems with it too, like Gil's sudden appearance and Avalon being conveniently in the shed. I haven't read the VN in a while, so I could be forgetting how those events made sense.

Wormslut getting a route over Illya was unforgivable.

>>15706231

Not much of an argument to begin with, your opinion on Shirou tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>15706246

>master vs master, servant vs servant

The summoning ritual for the Holy Grail wasn't event meant to be a free for all battle to begin with, it just turned out that way after people wanted to take it for themselves

>Avalon in shed

It was inside Shirou, it was implanted in him to save his life.

>Gil suddenly appearing

Grail mud is the answer for that one, he had real flesh and blood body but was fucked in the head I believe because of it.

>>15706293

>it's not an argument because I disagree

Honestly he's not really a mary sue, just really unlikeable, which is subjective. Doesn't change the fact you just ignored my other argument because you don't like them.

>>15706318

Can't have an argument with a guy who has no idea what they are talking about famalam.

Runefactory 3 & 4

Weapons vs magic?

>>15652138

Uncharted Waters: New Horizons is comfier than any of those games especially (((Starjew Valley)))

Is it just me or is Stardew Valley legit just boring after the first year?

The combat is shit, the tool/weapon variety is nonexistant and the dungeons are shit too.

The farming is so bland… It isn't really much worse than Rune Factory, but it feels so much more boring.

The waifu aren't hot enough.

>>15707636

Magic in 4 is extremely overpowered with the right upgrades, an accessory made with a magic ring and a rainbow watering can upgraded onto your staff for lightning fast charge rates. There are many boss items that allow you to alter the spells released after charging up your staff which lead to some very broken methods of erasing anything off the map.

To be fair though any weapon type with the right upgrades can break combat but I like spells since you can avoid being hit altogether.

>>15706142

Are fate anime actually worth watching, or is reading the source material superior in every way?

Bought my sister runefactory 4

Expecting to see her and find out she has 200 hours lmao

So anons, does anyone have a guide on how to set up stardew valley multiplayer games with pirated copies?

>>15707718

Only bother watching the anime series if you really liked reading Stay Night and Hollow Ataraxia.

Most of them are pretty bad, with the exception of Prisma Illya which barely has anything to do with the VNs and is loli fanservice.

Carnival Phantasm is supposedly good too, but I haven't seen it yet.

Some people like Zero (I hate it), but consider watching that as well after reading the main stuff.

You might like it.

I just started playing Rune Factory (1). It's nice, but I find the balance a little awkward.

The dungeons having the same seasons all year round kind of takes away from the charm (and makes them an objectively superior location for planting regrowing crops than your cosier farm). Coupled with some crops like Strawberries being completely OP, it almost feels like I'm cheesing the game.

Time/stamina management also feels a bit off. It's too easy to quickly burn through your RP and HP in a few in-game hours, and then you have to idle to wait for the bathhouse to open. The village is very compact, and you can't forage outside of it (unlike e.g. HM:FoMT or AWL, which each had forests with re-growing plants, logs, etc.), so there is little to do once you run out of RP & HP—other than fishing, I guess, that works.

The village being very compact is convenient, but works against the social aspect of the game. In the HM games I've played, it was enjoyable seeing villagers leave their houses, walk here and there, stop to chat with each other, etc.. This isn't the case here: NPCs do move around, but since their routes are so short, they disappear quickly, and never really liven up the outdoors scenery (which, in the village, looks pretty ugly too).

Finally, the music is also lacking.

>>15707742

I like it but I'm still waiting on an episode starring Bazett or Angry Man Jew (who I assume is possessing Emiya here)

>>15712282

>I just started playing Rune Factory

Oh man you chose wisely, I started on Frontier and hated so much about 1 when I tried to play it after.

>>15712282

>It's nice, but I find the balance a little awkward.

That's because RF1 is very grindy and stiff.

>The dungeons having the same seasons all year round kind of takes away from the charm

Just remember to clear volcano dungeon(you will know which one is it), before first Winter starts. Mainly because one story dungeon is only accessible during winter.

>Time/stamina management also feels a bit off. It's too easy to quickly burn through your RP and HP in a few in-game hours, and then you have to idle to wait for the bathhouse to open.

It's main reason why some people recommend starting with RF1 or RF2, because further installments completely overhauled that stiff system.

>The village being very compact is convenient, but works against the social aspect of the game. In the HM games I've played, it was enjoyable seeing villagers leave their houses, walk here and there, stop to chat with each other, etc.. This isn't the case here: NPCs do move around, but since their routes are so short, they disappear quickly, and never really liven up the outdoors scenery (which, in the village, looks pretty ugly too).

It was somewhat fixed in RF2 and completely fixed in RF3.

>the music is also lacking

It got better in sequels, not by much though.

>>15712293

Can't remember any Bazett chapters and Angry Manjew is strictly FHA only.

>>15657126

>siberian fox experiment

>search that up

>go to kikepedia link

>soviets were experimenting on foxes to study the relation of genetics to domestication

>they tried to alter the animals hormone and neurochemical production by selectively breeding based on lack of aggression

>started in 1959 and has been in continuous operation since

I wonder (((why))) a country that could barely feed its citizens would be interested in spending money on that particular research.

Sorry for going so far off topic.

>>15713645

there's videos anon

They originally did it to harvest the foxes for their fur and then they noticed the colors were tied to aggression

>>15713645

better vid

>>15714638

ayyyyy

>>15707715

I haven't played 3 yet, but I was inspired by this thread to get my 3ds set up to play it though. With that said, I played with mostly magic in 4. There are some interesting reactions between a few of the spells. For example, water laser and its variants all combo together. You can shoot a double laser to start with which has the properties of quick turning and shorter duration, and then you can follow up with a single laser which is characterized by a long lasting beam with slow turn speeds immediately after. The original cast, twin lasers, will have its properties set to the second casts, single laser, so you end up with 3 long lasting lasers that have poor turning. That is a pretty deadly combo that carried me through a lot of the game. Other magic is also pretty good when it is needed. You can stay more mobile if you switch to fire and start casting explosions that you interrupt with a dodge. If I remember right, dark sphere has good knockback (particularly good if you slot it twice and combo one off the other), it can hit through walls, and it is good against enemies that resist a lot of your other spells too. You've also got decent buffing and healing. Crafting gear for yourself is also a lot of fun. You can customize what charge spell your staff holds by mixing different animal parts into it. I remember using the one that would summon a bunch of crystal minions that shot a laser at targets on screen with a short cast, and the longer charge version summoned 2 long term crystal minions to shoot alongside you. You can also change your staffs shot type and element in the same way. There are also a bunch of interesting magic related accessories that you can combine different effects on too.

The chances are probably one in a million but it won't hurt to ask.

Any anon have/have a link to the dump files for RF4 ? I'd like to play it but I have no idea where I could get the files to set up the 4th one on the Citrus

Anons I need help. In RF3 I can't decide between Raven or Pia. Flower girls is also there but my love with her is not as high as with the others.

>>15720491

>that font

Now THAT's some quality weaponized autism.

>>15720651

Welcome to the RF3 dilemma. It felled the greatest minds of our time anon.

>>15722637

>spoiler

For real? I've been waiting for a good clone of Ginormo Sword for years, turns out there's been one in my backlog this entire time.

>>15652138

Is there one without the anime diarrhea?

>>15722735

Farming Simulator {Insert year here}.

>>15722637

I remember when I made arrow elemental staff by upgrading staff in RF3 on accident.

It was fun to use, even if its power was slightly low.

>>15722735

Cus anime art style makes a game bad reeeee

Unless its tales of berseria cancer

>>15707673

This is an objectively wrong statement

>>15723282

I just started this today it's like wrapping myself in a warm blanket. Especially if you have nostalgia for early Dragon Quest it's fantastic.

Is Stardew any good? Is it grindy?

>>15727897

Stardew is alright, especially when you consider it was done by one dude. It's entertaining enough and I was hoping it would get a lot better over the years with modding, but it's still merely "decent" in my book. That being said I say that with Rune Factory as the gold standard for that kind of title so perhaps I'm a bit unfair. RF3 and RF4 you can both play for hundreds upon hundreds of hours and still have a lot of things to do, but in Stardew you feel the content limitation much faster, especially in regards to character dialogue and events, and insofar as the genre is concerned RF4 is far above ALL the competition in that regard.

>>15728957

Everything about RF1 is poorly designed, not just the money making. I'm surprised to hear that you're actually enjoying it, because it's a genuinely bad game. So is RF2, despite some improvements (and new flaws). Your waifu turns into a piece of furniture with very limited dialogue as soon as you marry and never leaves the house. You have far less interaction with your wife than anyone else. That problem carries over to RF2, by the way.

Do you like it when fathers leave their families, by the way? Because both main characters in RF1 and RF2 do that. Frontier is a story sequel to RF1 with the same protagonist, and he just runs off because Mist goes missing for a day and then you can marry again (but not all the girls return so you can't necessarily marry the same girl). Kyle in RF2 abandons his family without even saying a word to his wife. I think the fags making these games have a fetish for this kind of thing.

>>15729017

>not 100% shipped rate

Step it up.

>>15729025

Oh I just realized you're playing RF1 well I've never played that so ignore me.

>>15729127

>100% shipped rate

I'm not enough of a masochist OR autistic enough to attempt that but I did have ~90% on my physical copy which got stolen along with my 3DS. I've only been playing this save a couple week so I might get there eventually.

>>15729127

>Do you like it when fathers leave their families, by the way? Because both main characters in RF1 and RF2 do that. Frontier is a story sequel to RF1 with the same protagonist, and he just runs off because Mist goes missing for a day and then you can marry again (but not all the girls return so you can't necessarily marry the same girl).

I read about that when I first looked into the series, that's pretty dumb. I guess Mist is sort-of-canon, going by RF's animated opening, in which case it makes sense—but it's pretty shitty of the developers to, either way, invalidate your choice of a wife in RF1. Given how RF1 was on DS and RF:F was on the Wii, they could at least have allowed you to link the two games to carry over some data.

Seeing the pace at which I'm going, I figured I was going to beat the main dungeons before the end of the 1st year, and before I could marry any of the girls (much less have a child), anyway, so I was going to quit at that point and move on to RF:F without creating that awkward situation where the MC leaves behind his home and family all of a sudden. Still pretty dissatisfying.

>>15729144

>Oh I just realized you're playing RF1 well I've never played that so ignore me.

I was also “w-what”ing at everything in those screenshots. Looks like RF:F completely overhauls RF1's cooking mechanics.

>>15729964

That's RF4, not RFF. But RFF is a bit different in and of itself, yes.

>>15729964

Yeah in RF4 cooking is pretty much the only way to make a decent amount of cash since they made most of the monster drops and minerals ludicrously expensive to buy and not that great to sell. Not to mention a full third or more of all weapons and accessories are resource and RP gated until late late late game.

RF devs seem to have the habit of fixing several things in each new game but breaking just as many that were working fine in the old game. Honestly if it weren't for some of the mechanical improvements such as batch crafting and the much more in depth forging system I'd be replaying RF3 for the 12th time instead of RF4.

>>15729127

If you married someone in RF1 Raguna obviously stays in Kardia. RFF is just a what if sequel, so he hasn't settled down yet. It's not that hard.

Kyle was sent to that port town to become a living seal to stop fire dragon from waking up. He was supposed to become attached to the town and willingly offer himself once his amnesia cleared up. You could say him having a family gave him even more of a reason to leave, to protect them.

>>15732145

>Yeah in RF4 cooking is pretty much the only way to make a decent amount of cash since they made most of the monster drops and minerals ludicrously expensive to buy and not that great to sell.

Nerfing minerals doesn't sound so bad. I'm hesitant to complain about mining in HM/RF games, because trade in minerals is an ancient means of primary production, after all, so its inclusion and prominent role is justified. On the other hand, I don't play these games to hammer rocks in a cave, but to plant crops and brush cows, so I'd rather that rock-crushing doesn't obsolete the other activities.

Is breeding, growing, and selling high-level crops lucrative in RF4?

>Not to mention a full third or more of all weapons and accessories are resource and RP gated until late late late game.

This is the same in RF1, so far. Need to mindlessly try and fail forging attempts (fortunately the resources aren't consumed) to level up my skill enough to actually make the things I want, but better stuff requires monster drops from yet-inaccessible caves.

>RF devs seem to have the habit of fixing several things in each new game but breaking just as many that were working fine in the old game.

Can't be as bad as Pokémon.

>PSS replaced with Festival Plaza

>>15652138

>Only the comfiest Lifesims

Why'd you post Stardeew Valley then? that's the least comfiest of these games I've ever played.

>>15732738

I've never played it is it really that bad? What specifically makes it garbage?

>>15732764

firstly visually, it's visuals are generic, and the pixel art is in general quite shit, nothing in the game world is interesting to look at.

Secondly it's combat system and dungeons, dungeons are just a time sink, a mandatory timesink to acquire resources to advance, they aren't well designed levels, I think they are procedural, but many levels are the same, the combat is ultra simple, and enemy design leaves a lot to be desired.

Thirdly the world building, the characters are boring, not a single fucking one of them is standout, or even comparable to the worst you'd find in Harvest Moon, and the town itself is unintersting to look at and explore.

Lastly the game doesn't break out, it sort of just safely glides on Harvest Moons formula just lathering on detail and systems, many of which exist in Harvest Moon already and it's spinoffs.

I could probably say a lot more but I don't want to have to play that fucking game again and discuss faggoty minutia about the overworld level design.

>>15722767

Where is the table from? I can't find it.

>>15732764

It's not anime.

>>15732145

at least you can't make millions within the first month in RF4 like you can in RF3.

>>15733264

That scene in HA was heartwarming

I think overall RF:F would probably be my favorite if it weren't for the fact that it's just a bit too slow. It feels like it takes forever to do my daily chores in that game, especially if you're doing a significant amount of farming in the dungeons. Hell, just picking your crops on your field and shipping them out can take the whole day. That aside, it has my favorite aesthetics, music, and town in the series.

RF3 probably has my favorite heroine designs overall but I find the town quite polarizing. Very entertaining at first but their insanity kind of gets annoying after a point since everyone's tropes are turned up to 11 in that game.

RF4 feels like it's the most boring in regards to the design of everything – from the town, to the heroines – but the actual game itself is so polished and you can get lost in the crafting alone for quite some time. And while the heroines are initially more boring, thanks to their abundance of dialogue and events they grow on you a lot more than ones from previous games, which are compartively more limited.

>>15652138

Do you have to be an incel to enjoy these games?

>>15733595

>>>/reddit/

>>15657163

sauce?

>>15733711

A little late to ask now, it's been nearly half a month.

>>15733587

RF4 is the best since you can use RFF's music with it

I love the snow music, so comfy

>>15732781

I disagree

>>15734092

>>15733587

RFF has stacks that go up to 99

>beat Mt. Gigant

>at the start of Autumn

Yeah, this was not a good design decision.

I guess I will spend the season grinding my forging, decoration, and pharmacy skills?

(That, and planting the Level 10 Sweet Potatoes I've bred in a cave all summer.)

Are these games you play in long or short bursts?

>>15739264

Don't forget to get some monsters too. These will be needed after that winter only dungeon. That and last in-game tilled soil requirement.

>>15742232

>Are these games you play in long or short bursts?

You easily can do both as long you are able to get into nearby save point in short bursts.

>>15742353

I've got four Not!Cows, four Not!Sheep, four Not!Chicken, and another barn with some monsters to help me water and harvest my crops. Will that be enough?

>>15742825

Yes. Because you only need to have 10 or more monsters.

>>15742353

>You easily can do both as long you are able to get into nearby save point in short bursts.

But which is more enjoyable?

>>15743120

Depends on personal preference.

>>15743708

Nothing, actually, but that sounds pretty fun. I might try that sometime.

>>15743271

What's yours?

Do these count as lifesims? I wish they did have some more Harvest Moon or Animal Crossing mechanics to them, specifically actually going into town, but otherwise its by far one of the comfiest game series I have ever played.