/v/ - Video Games

>>15632411

my dick

>>15632419

I'm waiting for it to be finished before I try playing it again.

>>15632422

Are you thinking of Dead Cells? That came out of early access a couple of months ago.

>>15632411

Night of Revenge, though its still in early access.

>>15632425

Death's Gambit is out of Early Acces but it's clearly not fucking done, and even the relatively large patch that just dropped doesn't finish it.

Just look at the dev update:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/356650/allnews/

>"""Later"""

>Improving hit reactions

>Improving movement mechanics

>Improving dodge mechanics and cancel windows

>Improving combat feel

This kind of shit should have been worked out before it was published on the store, and sure as shit should be worked out by the first major patch (which it still isn't)

>>15632535

have you heard of this? might scratch that itch.

>>15632419

>before it was patched you can get a gun, get a certain skill in your skill tree thing and get INFINITE AMMO

>game becomes a shooter

holy xd the game is bad

>>15633163

garbage

>>15633163

>eroge platformer/action

>shit animations

>shit physics

>shit gameplay

>porn as failure state

Every fucking time.

>>15633163

Whats the game called again? I remember the /hgg/ thread on it

>>15632426

>>15633384

see here

>>15633163

>>15633377

I don't know why they aren't just called Metroid-likes. The -vania suffix adds nothing, and is misleading, since it only started with SOTN which blatantly ripped of Super Metroid and did a worse job of it.

>>15633163

>getting molested by a scarecrow

I guess that was the last straw.

>>15633435

Keep in mind that SOTN added fast travel, light rpg mechanics and more complex combat system, most of which are found in almost every modern metroidvania.

While I agree that metroid-like would be sufficient to describe the level design and exploration by backtracking with new abilities, "metroidvania" implies, in my view, varied weapon types, melee combat, fantasy elements, some sort of currency to shop/level up. Teleportation is more of a quality of life thing, so I wouldn't mind it in pure metroid-like.

I think making a distinction between metroid-like and metroidvania would be a good thing though. There are quite a few games which fall into the former category, with fewer weapons, collectible powerups instead of XP etc.

>>15633435

>>15633377 (checked)

This really. It's like calling Rougue-likes Roguehacks: It's pretty redundant and doesn't really add that much information since Nethack is already a Rouge-like game. Plus, There are Castlevanias that aren't remotely Metroid-like (basically the NES trilogy, Super Castlevania 4, the N64 Castlevania games, the Gameboy games, Castlevania Chronicles, Castlevania: Lament of Innocence, the Lords of Shadow games and Castlevania Bloodlines), so the whole "vania" part of Metroidvania is pretty fucking moot since more than half of the games aren't even remotely like Metroid. Hell, even as >>15633603 explained, there are plenty of differences between the SOTN-type Castlevania games and Metroid in that the SOTN-type games are ARPGs first and foremost, whereas the Metroid games are varying flavors of pure action-adventure (whether that be a sidescrolling one or an FPS like the Metroid Prime games). They also are WAYY more varied in terms of items compared to Metroid (where you always have to collect essentially the same group of items to progress to the end of the game) and is more exploration focused than Metroid. I'm not really shitting on Metroid or Castlevania at all. I just don't see why people clump them together because of a small subset of Castlevania games having somewhat similar mechanics to Metroid, which already had established it years before and was popularized because of it in the first place.

>>15633402

Would you have the latest 0.18 version by any chance?

>>15633781

#!Lx1HWYya!_hBpqO7ORvSwngH_HKmQF5ryXXE0WqCpUp2oH0q6W3U

>>15633786

My man

I could have sworn I've seen this same thread a few months ago, complete with this same exact >>15633603 post.

The sense of deja vu is killing me. Do agree with the sentiment though, A lot of these "metroidvania" games have the absolute bare minimum when it comes to bonus content, items or exploration.

>>15634142

I post something like that whenever a thread like this one comes. Usually Castlevania threads or retarded "Metroidvania thread".

>>15633435

The -vania suffix implies there are RPG mechanics. But often people abuse the term.

>>15634211

> some numbers go up

> this is RPG mechanics

This will never not make me mad.

>>15636094

>builds are not RPG mechanic

You're mad as in mentally not healthy.

>>15637926

Builds do not make a game have RPG mechanics anon.

RPG does not mean you change some numbers now and then. RPG used to have a deeper meaning where the player could define a role and then play said role within a world and have it affect the world and the story, and action resolution within the world was dependent on the character skill, not player skill.

What you're describing is not role-playing, it's choosing one weapon over another. It's no more an RPG than choosing which upgrades to buy in Gradius.

>>15637973

a mechanic can be merely a single component part, a modular unit that left to its own device serves a fiction towards a system that when united as a whole is something else entirely. Like how Voltron is built of five lions. To say for the sake of illustration that one lion is a mechanism that is apart of Voltron is true even if all the other lions are not present. Therefore a mechanic that is utilized in RPG's may not be an RPG in and of itself. It is still true to say it is a "RPG mechanic". Simple categorical imperative. QED.

>categorical imperative

>immanuel kant bla bla bla

ok wrong terminology, I'm a dummy but you know what I meant.

>>15633201

hey I like some of those

>>15632551

Were they too lazy to make models for… everything?

>>15632551

Any game with a playable glaive is alright in my book. Thanks anon.

>>15636020

The idea is that you get good and then do a run through the entire game. It's a challenge and not some autistic grindfest.

>>15633163

much better artstyle than salt and sanctuary at least. not that that's an accomplishment.

>>15648619

Have you played the dev's other games?

>>15648775

shit didn't notice the facecam

>>15648936

The Messenger was excellent though, and the time travel element switches from NES to much higher bit coloration in the "future." It's pretty obvious when pixelshit is there just because the dev is a hack who wants to get away with easier creation of visual assets and animations with less time, but that's not the case with The Messenger. It's pretty clearly the intention of the game to incorporate that look and it wouldn't be the game it is without it.

>>15648778

>facecam

>>15648775

Not really, and this looks pretty good too. I'll check it out. Thanks

>>15648775

That game was pretty good, but way too short. I beat it in a couple of short play sessions in a single day.

>>15649040

The Messenger was indeed good, but holy shit, just how fucking many retro games can there be? I feel like it's a pointless gimmick, a marketing buzzword, where the stylistic is rarely ever properly followed or actually meaningful. Remember nostalgia? Well, here's some!

>>15648619

This one is pretty good, but it's not finished, just follow it until it is and have a blast.

>>15648775

This one(Synchronicity) and PharaohRebirth are both great games, you all should try it while wating on Luna Nights.

852a4b is a mega faggot for spoiling the final boss like a retard, though. With a facecam as the cherry on top.

>>15649130

It's because it was just a free promotional bonus for another game with unrelated gameplay.

>>15649852

>muh spoilers

>>15648832

>Letting some faggot ruin a game for you because he shilled it

I hope you anons just pirated the game and played it yourselves. Aside from the horrid character artstyle its actually well made might shit the bed later on, I only played it up to the castle with the invisible mobs so far

>>15649819

>but holy shit, just how fucking many retro games can there be?

There's literally nothing wrong with that, specially when you can ask the same question about photo realistic shit that AAA loves. I'd rather pixels than realist shit, specially when done right.

>>15646851

>Forcing you to replay the game

That's bulllshit.

>>15638021

no it fucking isn't, it's a ripoff of Muramasa: The Demon Blade with deviantart garbage graphics and shitty references to other, better games. And an incredibly shit story. And a broken combat system. Just play Muramasa.

>>15633435

>did a worse job of it

Super Metroid is extremely overrated. So is SoTN, but fuck am I sick of the Super Metroid dick sucking.

>>15648619

>ball-less tanuki

dropped

>>15660319

Hey, just because you don't consort with beasts doesn't mean you have to be so bitter.

>>15660312

I'm pretty sure the goal with Valdis was to be a mix of DMC and Metroidvania. Any weapon you unlock on a character will remain unlocked for future play throughs with that character. That is the only way to max out weapons, iirc, since you don't get enough of the rarest material to do that and get a weapon. It doesn't exactly work out because the point of DMC's style of unlocking things was to force you to learn and master the basics with a relatively short game and then get new techniques and move up in difficulty as you get better at it. It doesn't work nearly as well because the game can take some time if you don't know where everything is and are just exploring, and when you add in RPG mechanics, especially the bonuses granted by beating bosses with an S-rank, and it becomes a lot less fun to replay.

You get stuck back at square one, instead of having all the tools and a harder difficulty to match your mastery of the tools you have.

>>15633163

best porn game ever unless you count meme shit like artificial academy 2 and illusion stuff

But i feel like ive played the betas so much that by the time the final game comes out its not gonna do anything for me, same shit happened with guilty hell, which somehow the final game had less content than the betas

>>15660312

>I'm a newfag who doesn't want to replay a game ever and deserves everything just handed to them on a plate

Then you will whine all modern games suck and it should be like the old days. Where you had multiple endings and rewards depending on how well you did.

>>15650026

it doesn't, unless you count the fact that the ending is a complete anticlimax in terms of story and the final boss doesn't seem to be all that important in the grand scheme of things. Also the game has two endings but you probably won't even know about one of them because you have to find some douchebag a bunch of times before you fight certain bosses and there's a 99% chance you won't. But that's the "bad" ending anyway, and both endings are basically the same so what the hell ever, the gameplay is what you're there for and it's good gameplay. Unless you go with a mage, because magic, much like in DS, is completely overpowered and completely trivializes every challenge the game has for you.

>Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight

GOTY contender from 2016. Lots of Bloodborne influence in the art style, but there are many types of areas to explore and the story is thankfully minimalist. Combat is weighty and ranged weapons are OP, but the plethora of enemies keeps things interesting throughout the game. Make sure you play on normal mode because the higher difficulties just increase enemy damage and reduce healing items' effectiveness.

>Momodora 3

It's all of $3 or something on Playism and you can beat it in an afternoon. More level-based and arcadey, but still fun due to being able to replay it for a couple of hidden bosses and alternate endings.

>Momodora 1 and 2

Available for free. They'll take a couple hours, if that, and are fun distractions.

>Pharaoh Rebirth Plus

Great level-based action platformer which encourages you to replay levels once unlocking new abilities. Many levels have fun gimmicks that don't overstay their welcome. Play it on normal first, since hard mode is genuinely very fun and challenging, but will make lesser difficulties seem weaksauce in comparison.

I still never figured out how to get to the hidden old man boss beneath that one level.

>Millia Wars DX

H-game with tonnes of yuri and soft vore. If you disable the animations it's actually a pretty solid level-based action platformer with four characters, a scoring system, and hidden rooms but you wouldn't disable the animations, would you?

There was one game I recall from a previous thread like this, but I forget their titles. Help an anon out? It was some kirby-like game that allowed you to copy and potentially combine abilities. I remember it having screen-clearing attacks.

One other game I have forgotten used drills/cables to dart around the environment and connect things. I recall the trailer having a lot of pillars crashing down, but little else.

>>15660909

More like I'm a pirate with too many games to play to replay the same game over and over instead of doing perfectly so in my first playthrough, replayability is only a thing for paycucks to justify their purchase.

>Where you had multiple endings and rewards depending on how well you did.

The thing with Valdis is that forces you to replay the game instead of giving you an S rank if you doing it right for the first time even if it takes a couple of tries, because it keep tracks of your retries. That's shit and you're a faggot.

>>15668450

>replayability is only a thing for paycucks to justify their purchase

This is one of the dumber things I've seen on this board, and that's saying a lot.

>valdis ranking system

It seems flawed, but I can understand why the developers would implement it in that way. Stop getting buttblasted.

>>15668833

>This is one of the dumber things I've seen on this board

Nice no argument.

>It's shit but I can justify it

Stop being an apologist, faggot. It's shit and it forces you to replay for literally no reason. You should be able to get S from the get go. I'm not saying it should be handed to you, but outside of weapon damage and the such, you should be able to learn how to get good from the beginning, just like DMC even with fewer combos.

>>15660343

Are you retarded, as well as a faggot? You can see their balls are right there.

>>15648619

Best shit I've played in years.

the vagrant

bumping for interest.