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0b7940 No.15587982
GOG is officially shilling for this
The trailer is tryhard, but the game looks pretty good.
It's not a fucking roguelite and there's no checkpoint system so that's all I need to enjoy it, hopefully the levels don't suck shit.
325e62 No.15587991
c95107 No.15587999
>>15587982
The least you shitty shills could do is make a fucking webm.
0b7940 No.15588066
>>15587991
>>15587999
I was going to link an invidio.us link but I fucked up
620758 No.15588088
>>15588066
>upgrades
>one-liners done to death in movies
The rest I need to play but those are two huge red flags
c95107 No.15588101
>>15588066
Looks like disingenuous hypsters trying to make a "retro" shooter. The gameplay looks fine, everything else, not so much.
Might be worth a pirate but I wouldn't bet on it.
62e9f6 No.15588104
>>15588088
Pirate DUSK instead.
299b99 No.15588112
>>15588066
So it's retro Doom clone with Duke Nukem one-liners and possibly rogue-like. When it put up that no save point thing, I immediately thought they possibly added rogue-like elements to it, being how modern retro they were going for.
0b7940 No.15588129
399ed7 No.15588135
>>15588129
>It doesn't have Rogue inspired level design
That doesn't mean that it isn't rogue-like.
62e9f6 No.15588153
>>15588129
>https://www.gog.com/game/project_warlock
>Oh. And John Romero thinks “it looks cool”.
This does not instill confidence.
0b7940 No.15588159
>>15588135
>It's not roguelite
>That doesn't mean it's not roguelite
0b7940 No.15588179
>>15588153
Fuck you faggot
405291 No.15588186
>>15588135
>fixed pre-designed levels
>no permadeath
>persistent perks
>rogue-like
Are you retarded?
f49594 No.15588192
>>15588066
>another cheap retro fps with everything but good level design
it's all so tiresome
9d4f18 No.15588202
>quotes are nothing but parody of other media
Gee I sure love this fucking trash style of writing.
0b7940 No.15588204
>>15588192
>but good level design
That's why I'm still on the fence about this shit, it looks decent but if they fuck up the level design it goes straight to the trash.
21ff5d No.15588213
Yet another generic throwback shooter with forgettable enemy designs, clashing effects that make the game impossible to play, tryhard ironic protagonist, and very bland level designs. It'll be shilled here by the resident mustards, then forgotten about in a week.
>>15588179
I'm more concerned what John Romero's Wife's Son will think of it
399ed7 No.15588221
>>15588186
>>15588159
Level design=/=game mechanics. Learn to read.
0b7940 No.15588222
>>15588213
>It'll be shilled here by the resident mustards
At least it isn't 20 garbage generic JRPGs shilled daily.
>I'm more concerned what John Romero's Wife's Son will think of it
Where da tiddie at?
Muh dick
0b7940 No.15588228
>>15588221
Roguelite game mechanics are directly linked to level design you idiot.
0b7940 No.15588234
>>15588227
>Why the fuck would I shell out money to play this when I could get DOOM for free, download a sourceport and get thousands of hours of gameplay out of the absurd amount of mods that have been made for it?
Good point, you can play those, plus Quake and UT mods forever.
21ff5d No.15588238
>>15588222
>At least it isn't 20 garbage generic JRPGs shilled daily.
Get lost or something?
399ed7 No.15588240
>>15588228
So? I could have a game with the level design of a rogue-like but not its core mechanics and it would not be a rogue-like.
0b7940 No.15588266
>>15588240
>I could have a game with the level design of a rogue-like but not its core mechanics and it would not be a rogue-like.
Except the garbage designation ´roguelite is directly associated with procedural randomized levels you idiot.
Most modern roguelites aren't even turn based
>>15588238
>Can't criticize massively shilled and casualized garbage JRPGs, many of which designed and focused on Western audiences.
Your next line will be
GOON
21ff5d No.15588290
>>15588266
My next line is list the 20 because I only remember one jrpg being talked about the past week. I always appreciated an OP retarded enough to derail his own thread.
3361a2 No.15588295
>>15588153
How long before the devs starts to paint their nails ?
399ed7 No.15588307
>>15588266
So you are only proving my point?
>Nudev sees all the roguelike overexposure
>"Fuck, just when I was going to launch my own one"
>"What is Rogue anyway?"
>"Holy molly, it has nothing to do with all those roge-like games people do"
>The dev says this game doesn't have the level design of Rogue
d72a1d No.15588374
>>15588227
It's just fucking sad how the only remotely promising upcoming first-person shooters (Ion Maiden, Amid Evil, DUSK) are all fucking Doom clones. Overload was released this year, which was a spiritual successor to Descent (which in turn was a zero gravity Doom clone), but also happened to be the best FPS released in the past fucking decade (since SS3 if you try to think harder about it) not just because everything else sucked in the past decade but also because it's that fucking good.
It's so unspeakably depressing how the only way modern indie developers can think of making a good FPS after finally realizing roguelites are shit, is to clone Doom again.
FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS AND NOBODY CAN THINK OF ANYTHING BETTER THAN COPYING DOOM AGAIN.
I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES THEM BAD, BUT THERE'S WAY MORE POTENTIAL TO BE HAD IN THE GENRE. I'M STILL WAITING FOR MY FIRST PERSON VANQUISH, AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR AN FPS TO HAVE GOOD FUCKING BOSS FIGHTS FOR ONCE. IT'D BE LIKE IF THE ONLY PLATFORMERS GETTING MADE NOWADAYS WERE ALL STRAIGHT MARIO CLONES
THE ONLY OTHER EXCEPTIONS I CAN THINK OF ARE DEVIL DAGGERS WHICH ONLY APPEALS TO A NICHE OF SCORECHASING AUTISTS AND DESYNC WHICH WAS RATHER IFFILY REALIZED, HOPEFULLY THE REDUX PATCH WILL CHANGE THINGS UP
EVEN DOOM ETERNAL IS STARTING TO LOOK APPEALING AT THIS POINT, AT LEAST IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'LL BE ANY WORSE THAN NUDOOM
0b7940 No.15588389
>>15588374
Witchfire is also looking decent
f49594 No.15588398
>>15588374
Ion Maiden is literally a duke 3D clone tbh
9d4f18 No.15588404
>>15588374
This reminds me, whatever happened to Spire, that game by the dustforce devs?
0b7940 No.15588418
>>15588398
It's actually better in some ways
d72a1d No.15588431
>>15588398
>implying Duke 3D then wasn't a Doom clone to begin with
>>15588404
Stiiiill in development. Their development blog hasn't seen an update for a year, but at least their twitter account retweeted something last August. Spire looks like it's going to be the only good FPS with procedurally generated levels, I hope it doesn't die.
>>15588389
Mite be cool, I hope they can show something new about it soon.
0b7940 No.15588433
>>15588404
No news since December last year
They'll probably come out with details in a while.
same with Routine
86aec7 No.15588687
>le retro game with quirky parodies of retro movies
0b7940 No.15589919
ef9af2 No.15589968
>>15587982
>GOG
Yeah after GOG drew it's line in the political sand it was only a matter of time.
0b43b2 No.15590377
>>15587982
There is something really off about the game. I can't quite put my finger on it, but the low ceiling, the shader effects, the smooth animations and the look of the sprites is just wrong. Old games like Doom or Heretic tried to be as "real" working with the limitations of their hardware.
I think it's part of the programming. In the old days the engine did not let you do more, so you did as much as you could with what you had. Modern engines can do so much, but people decide to use only a subset of the features in some areas, resulting in the inconsistent feeling. It would be interesting to start with an engine that's limited from the start and then try to get as much out of it as possible.
I have had recently the idea for an engine that works like a retro video game console: a set number of layers, fixed-size sprites, limited color palette and so on. The programmer could set the exact limitations when initializing the engine, but once they were set you wouldn't be able to change them. So if you decide to go with NES limitations you couldn't just all of the sudden throw in an object that has a higher resolution or shader effects or any other out of place crap.
b0cd08 No.15590417
>>15588266
Can you please list what gameplay mechanics OPs game has that makes it a roguelite?
e30962 No.15590420
>>15587982
>Not a Roguelike
Not interested unless it has the equivalent of Hideous Destructor and Oblige.
55ed4c No.15590429
>>15588066
Disgusting, this is an insult to the original doom and duke nukem 3d by blatantly aping them.
000000 No.15590436
>>15588088
>complaining about upgrades in a single player campaign
They're a better way to scale difficulty than simply throwing 10x trash mobs at the player while placing 10x ammo items in the level, like olddoom did.
e99094 No.15590444
>>15588374
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797d7b No.15590461
>>15588192
guarantee level design goes right over your head in every single game until 10+ years later when youre gushing an analysis that isnt even yours about how much of a masterpiece it is
6b1a3b No.15590478
>>15590444
Demonic presence at unsafe levels - lockdown in effect!
Fortnite burger!
Ligma!
e891b3 No.15590485
>GOG is shilling for this
So it's more low-effort nostalgia bait garbage just like everything else they shill, gotcha
reminder to never buy anything from (((GOG)))
b0cd08 No.15590491
>>15590485
> the one store left with curation
> the one store left that sells shit without DRM
It's the only decent place to spend shekels if you're going to spend them, although I admit it's not a very high bar to clear.
e891b3 No.15590496
>>15590491
>he gives his shekels to (((GOG)))
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e891b3 No.15590602
0b43b2 No.15594108
>>15590496
> One PR faggot who is basically just a glorified forum moderator is representative of the entire company
Come on, you might as well complain about the janitor saying something. Call me when the higher-ups become faggots.
0d8e17 No.15594118
>>15594108
He's getting paid to spread the leftist cancer by his bosses.
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a49f32 No.15594275
>his voice
lmao
even i could do that better
2165cd No.15594281
>>15588389
There hasn't even been any new info about that since the teaser, what is wrong with you?>>15590377
Most of these shitty things never have respectable weapon animation, there's no punch to anything and makes it all seem that much more like cardboard cutouts. From what I could tell, I don't think they even bothered to have more than front-facing sprite for enemies, either.
2165cd No.15594283
084da4 No.15594288
>>15588374
AMID EVIL isn't a doomclone at all. It's more of a quake clone except heretic-themed. The levels are really good and having played all three (Ion, Amid, Dusk) I can easily say it's the best one, the purest and with the most love put into it. Level design is also sublime, with lots of verticality. Dusk sucks compared to it.
0b01b5 No.15594382
>>15588066
>I never asked for this, oh wait I did
Haha epic
ae57ec No.15594450
>>15594275
Do it. Vocaroo now.
ddd187 No.15594473
>>15588192
Anon I don't go on /v/ to see the face of this retarded nigger.
a49f32 No.15594495
>>15594450
https://temp word filter, please report the faggot who spams this with mario pictures/i/s0UNYcNGnOb5
the groovy is cringe tier
a49f32 No.15594497
>>15594450
>>15594495
what?
https:// vocaroo . com /i/s0UNYcNGnOb5
465fc0 No.15594512
>>15594495
Oh cool Mark you made a temporary thing from 3 years ago a permanent thing. good work, have some cake.
c7e435 No.15594524
>>15594270
/thread. The thing is about Doom clones in the 90s is that Doom wasn't open source and it wasn't free if you were a normalfag , so the concept of a Doom clone which improved upon Doom's gameplay made sense. Now, you just wonder why these faggots aren't just modding theDoom and making their own TCs instead of doing all this shit to get the same result. At least you can build a resume that way and it doesn't even have to be free. The Plutonia Experiment is proof positive of that. These retards have no business sense or sense of economizing/educing labor when the work's already done for you.
d91481 No.15594531
>>15588374
It's all about the level design you tard. Amid Evil is actually good because it is 3D instead and has good levels. This game doesn't seem promising because it looks like they had a checklist that said "Levels based on Doom" which is a fucking retarded idea because DOOM DOES NOT HAVE HEIGHT and therefore you cannot put one room on top of another. You don't make good games by following a checklist of things that were in old games.
I've played a few retroclones but Amid Evil is the only one that has earned my love so far. It's loosely inspired by Quake but the level design is very different while still being good.
89d74c No.15594550
I wish indie devs started making FPS games with skill based movement instead of all this "lol remember Doom guys xDDD" pixelshit, Quake clones basically. But I guess that'd be a bit too demanding for your average indie dev.
325e62 No.15594615
>>15588101
>Might be worth a pirate but I wouldn't bet on it.
no one would
5d26dd No.15594619
>>15594550
Doom mods are really fun and easy to make. I have to imagine that's why they made the game the way that they did. Also level design is a totally lost art and 3D levels are intimidating to the timid soyboy.
e89dc0 No.15594760
>>15594550
How do you feel about Deadcore, SEUM Speedrunners from Hell and Valley?
89d74c No.15594811
>>15594760
Deadcore is a cool game, but it's not what I had in mind. It is specifically tailored towards FPS platforming. Quake is the perfect balance between an arcade shooter, great map design, and a level of mechanical depth that can be completely ignored if you so wish, but rewards players that do put in the time to learn it.
5e5275 No.15594880
>>15588066
Looks like shit but ok
000000 No.15594891
ad8226 No.15596098
>tryhard
So it tries…hard? Isn't that better than half assed?
12bd5f No.15596127
the game's aesthetic looks so fucking awful it's laughable, like it tries to be a doom game but then has this really awful pixelshit artstyle that wants to copy the NES, this is just pandering to doomfags and then just got lazy wolfestein 64x64 tile level design in most of the places.
5d26dd No.15596388
>>15596127
This. The levels are all in right angles, even the Doom engine was capable of other angles. It just screams laziness.
d72a1d No.15596514
>>15594288
>it's not a doom clone
>but it's a quake clone
I get what you're saying, I prefer Quake over Doom myself, but perhaps I should have been more specific.
Basically, in the early 90's you had all these Apogee-style platformers (among which id's own Commander Keen, Turrican, and Jazz Jackrabbit), which were more about exploring huge levels and finding all the secrets in them, instead of Japanese console platformers where levels were more tightly designed linear gauntlets made to test every single ability available to you, like CV/NG/Rockman/etc. It's rather obvious what influence the former had over Doom.
When I look at the FPS genre, the only design philosophy that really succeeded (in terms of quality anyways) is that Apogee-esque exploration-focused secret-filled resource management-oriented colored key-gated school of FPS design, or Doom clones as most call them for obvious reasons. It's so successful that it has de facto become that Golden Standard, largely because no alternative ever sprung up to challenge the idea of what can make a GOOD FPS, at least not without delving into subgenres.
When you try coming up with good first-person shooters, you often begin to fall back to the old-school. Some good exceptions have frequently popped up, like Serious Sam, F.E.A.R., Devil Daggers, Bulletstorm, 6DoF shooters, even nuDoom had the potential, it's just that nobody tried to take and refine them or put their own spin on them. Instead we still have people putting their spin on Quake/Doom as part of this retro throwback wave because it takes confidence to try something new. But when you think of what makes a good platformer, you don't only think of Mario. There's other schools of platformer design too (which aren't total shit).
What I'm really missing from the FPS genre is the Japanese take on it. Which makes sense since FPS games used to be mostly a PC thing while nips kept to consoles and arcades, so they never really bothered with this genre. Yet Vanquish, although a TPS, showed us a glimpse of what could be. Who knows what we'd have now if someone made the FPS-equivalent of DMC in the past.
Shooters doesn't have to go the nip route in particular to be fresh again, but something that deviates from the genre's obsession with the aforementioned pillars of the Golden Standard would go on to shake things up a lot.
0d5fbb No.15596801
>>15588066
It might be not that cringy in-game a la Blood Dragon?
And the gameplay might be good?
I know I'm wrong for hoping in 2018 that a FPS might be good, let me dream.
5b3db6 No.15599231
>>15596514
I couldn't agree more as an old school id grognard. I love Quake and Doom but the genre hasn't done anything truly interesting since Tribes, Half Life and Unreal. And people liked Half Life for the wrong reasons (setpieces instead of the good AI and such). These games create small cult followings compared to the gaming market of today, because the type of consumer who played FPSes in 1999 is the minority now. So nobody makes games unless it's an indie project and all the retard college kids want to be like Todd Howard or whatever; they want glory, not truly a good game, or they're so naive that they think working for the biggest will allow them to make the best games and get burnt out. The conditions we're in are just not good for the technical advancement of game design because why do that when you can just market to <demographic>? Dumbfuck marketers think they can market a magic game that appeals to literally everyone if they just get enough budget.
5b3db6 No.15599242
>>15599231
>So nobody makes games
Meant to write "nobody makes innovative games."
62e9f6 No.15604753
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This is probably the most visually noisy/cluttered FPS I've ever seen.
46f8ad No.15605076
>>15594497
>>15594495
why the word filter anyway?
46f8ad No.15605084
>warlock
>spells and magic
Anyone know the name of the game that made a doom clone, but with magic and shit? i bet is way better than this shit.
d72a1d No.15605085
>>15605076
I kind of want my Jamaican ganja mon warrior sci-fi FPS now
62e9f6 No.15605100
0bf055 No.15605103
That trailer gave me a headache.
46f8ad No.15605270
>>15605100
>Heretic/Hexen?
can you level up and buy shit in those? i think you could do that in the game im talking about.
a430c3 No.15605277
>the trailer is tryhard
???
62e9f6 No.15605289
>>15605270
I don't remember being able to buy anything or level up in either of them. Strife, maybe?
>>15605277
OP is retarded, don't mind him.
d24d6b No.15605398
>>15587982
>store selling a product
>shilling
<making a thread about it, "looks pretty good"
<not shilling
current state of /v
8606c5 No.15605687
>game starts with some power metal vibes
>expect to get full blast drum melodic metal while slaughtering hordes of undead and shit
>whole game is in 90s techno retro shit
>got cheated last time
Overall this game is 8/10. Like it. But as i said they made huge mistake to add cuck retro.
b995ba No.15605706
No game in the 90s look like this, this is as "90s" as Minecraft. I hate how it became a pseudo-style made by people who don't understand how old games worked.
e6e633 No.15605759
The thick black outlines and style of shading give it a comic book kind of look. I don't know why they went for pixel art on top of that though. It looks fine, but more of a hand drawn look probably would have been prettier.
bc1b01 No.15605983
So far it's better than I expected. The game could use some more polishing though.
f4d63e No.15605995
>>15605983
>free exp for no reason
LOL
beea61 No.15606015
>>15605983
>perspective from camera pitch
>water reflections
>8-bit alpha
>in something trying to look like Doom/Duke3D's software rendering
>don't flag secrets as found/used
Inept faggots/10.
80fb3c No.15606055
>>15588066
LAL so phukin cringe my niggas
f4d63e No.15606241
>"legally" get the game
>tablet, controllers, etc. messes with the menu and scrolling
>have to disconnect all of them
>have to make sure sharpness is at negative 0 not positive 0 because it sharpens the pixels and makes them look really bad
>no one liners being spat out
>secrets have no rhyme or reason, literally humping a wall
>not smooth elevator compared to dn3d and doom
>sewer levels
WHY
964c7f No.15606298
where's the torrent nigger ?
500d7c No.15606318
>>15605687
>pepe
That's a cuckchan meme you fucking retard stop posting here.
40f3ab No.15606330
>>15587982
Basically it's nudoom but not awful?
I'd rather just play a wad tbh, that's free.
465fc0 No.15606336
>>15606330
>not awful?
well about that
0b5510 No.15606436
>Call your game a spiritual successor to Wolfenstein instead of Doom, because otherwise everyone would be super critical of your level design.
>Everyone is critical anyway
Haha, get fucked, nerd.
Its better than any of the "RPG" doom wads that are out there (not saying much), so if you really want to shoot demons and then assign stat points, this game does that better than the rest but it'll """""cost""""" you. It's pretty fun, all of the guns are fun to use, and overall the game looks better than your typical "retro" dreck.
On the other hand, levels are all super cramped so far (1 act in) and the architecture is boring as fuck (Just like Wolfenstein, though, so I guess they really nailed that part). That shit is tentative, though, because I've seen screenshots of nicer looking areas that apparently show up later on? The music is not great, nor is the main character. Secrets are all about wall humping, zero logic in their placement and hints are either blatantly obvious (this wall section is notably darker than the rest) or nonexistent. There were a couple threatening ambushes on the first level, but its been piss-baby easy ever since. Finally, you don't get the shotgun early enough.
6/10, fucking FPS of the year I guess.
ed8ba2 No.15607047
the level design is dogshit
82098b No.15613549
>>15587982
Use invidio.us next time
62e9f6 No.15613565
>>15613549
>still loads thumbnails from google and creates a google tracking cookie
placebo-tier at best
6a5800 No.15613584
>>15588066
I hate this shaded pixelart bullshit so much. When did this begin and why do all "retro shooter" developers decide to use it?
62e9f6 No.15613603
>>15613584
>and why do all "retro shooter" developers decide to use it?
can you name 6?