c5e90b No.15514619
I love the 'what might have been' scenarios with videogames. Sometimes its a sad revelation that a game was monstrously cut down in scale and story before release. But other times its a far more interesting total shift in genre or tone.
For example the pdf attached is the original pitch treatment for Bioshock. No a 1st year philosophy students thesis statement on randyan politics but a game set on a tropical island where a deprogrammer goes to fight crab men and save a girl from a cult.
Could have been better, could have been worse but its fascinating to thing what another timeline could have lead to.
What alternate builds springs to mind for you? The far more supernatural build of RE4 that turned into Haunting Ground? Deadly Premonition when it was an even more egregious Twin Peaks rip off?
What do you wonder about like this?
2bc2ff No.15514631
d5039d No.15514651
Shock my Biohole Infinitely
Juke Flukem: FOREVER
Half-Baked 2
60bbf2 No.15514659
Spore comes to mind, but Bioshock Infinite is a game I hoped it would play like the trailers.
c0dfd2 No.15514738
Either I'm conflating a creepypasta with real life, but wasn't Zelda 64 (as it was known then before becoming OoT/MM) supposed to feature a game map that went on for miles, including an endless desert?
da2977 No.15514775
98cc76 No.15514852
Weren't Dungeon Travelers 1 and 2 very different?
bfd644 No.15514898
GTA IV was supposed to have a whole Liberty State. References to its locations still exist within the game files as well as road signs that point to places that don't exist, and The Carraways (Long Island equivalent) is mentioned by a few characters, even later in GTA V.
cde81c No.15514924
>>15514738
>including an endless desert?
It does have that, doesn't it? Though it's just a desert area that puts you back in one place if you go in the wrong direction. On the other hand, if you mean a desert that is actually endless, there really couldn't have been any other way to handle it.
2aed5e No.15515090
>>15514738
>>15514924
IIRC, it was also supposed to be like Phantasy Star Online and have an online component, several more dungeons (which required the use of the N64DD, which it was originally developed for) and it also was supposed to have a persistent world, so if you chopped down a tree or left footprints somewhere, they would be there after you rebooted the game. For a game from 1996, that was REALLY fucking ambitious. No wonder they had to scale back so much.
b44673 No.15515108
>>15514738
Nintendo Power was putting up articles about how Hyrule Field would take literal days to traverse, which was obviously a lie to sell the game, same way with how they lied when Skyward Sword was coming out saying it would have the most open overworld yet.
cea0d4 No.15515122
The original SSB was for the NES and had a roster that included characters named Kinopio, Yossy and Nokonoko as well as the standard fare Mario, Kupa, Donkey, Luigi and Peach. It wasn't until Mr. HAL decided that the NES was outdated that they ported it to N64 and removed the silly characters.
bda871 No.15515130
>>15515122
That's bullshit, man.
6b1492 No.15515133
Quake was originally going to be a first person action RPG(?). This is why the medieval Gothic Lovecraft theme is so strong and why the last resort weapon is an axe. In fact, it was mostly Romero's idea and he left id after the rest of the team told him it should be a shooter. Romero is still an egotistical faggot, but I want to see what his Quake might have been like, even if it just ends up being a Hexen clone.
cea0d4 No.15515140
>>15515130
Yeah, his name wasn't Mario in the game. It was Mari.
0d790d No.15515148
[Muffled "You're hurting me, baby" playing in the background]
a5816c No.15515151
>>15515122
bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Kart_Fighter
6f3e70 No.15515152
>>15514619
>Haunting Ground was supposed to be RE4
>Devil May Cry was supposed to be RE4
God damn, what wasn't an early build of RE4?
3bcaa7 No.15515156
>>15515122
>kupa
isnt that a japanese onomatopoeia for a pussy being opened?
67d4d6 No.15515160
Fire Emblem the Binding Blade. When the creator of FE left Nintendo, they took an unreleased N64 game they were working on at the time, stripped it of almost everything, then stuck what was left on a game boy advance game.
cea0d4 No.15515165
>>15515151
The Chinese managed to liquidate a former HAL office, and spread copies of the original SSB around, passing them off as a different game entirely. Mr. HAL even said so to my uncle, the one who works for NES.
507228 No.15515230
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I still want to play Dinosaur Planet. Younger Krystal was a qt.
11ab46 No.15515587
Ratchet & Clank was originally going to be a game about a girl with a stick with dark religious overtones.
Insomniac cited this fact as an example of how games change in production as part of justifying the changes between Overstrike and Fuse. It didn't fly
0fcb86 No.15515631
>>15515108
>Hyrule Field would take literal days to traverse
That doesnt sound fun at all.
301233 No.15515637
>>15515631
It's technically true, it's just literal days in-game.
bfd644 No.15515657
>>15515156
It's Polish for poop
>>15515108
>same way with how they lied when Skyward Sword was coming out saying it would have the most open overworld yet
That's another clever half-truth, you traverse the sky, what's more open than that?
dc15d0 No.15515707
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
IIRC Conker was changed into the crude pop-culture reference filled form late in its development after they got some market stats or something
507228 No.15515739
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>>15515707
That late in the N64's life cycle, they figured people didn't need another cutesy platformer.
Kind of a shame we never got 12 Tales though, It looked like a good game. Maybe superior to Bad Fur Day in some respects.
b5702c No.15515762
>>15515707
Is that why the end of the game is just three different pop culture references?
3ba783 No.15515779
>>15514619
Halo was announced as an open world coop shooter for the PC.
Then bungee sold out to microshit and it became an xbox exclusive utterly linear forgettable corridor shooter, and 2 years after when it was PORTED to pc, they had stripped out coop on microshit's orders.
Fucking faggots.
11ab46 No.15515786
>>15515739
>>15515707
The original Conker's Quest/Conker's 12 Tales was completely cancelled. Bad Fur Day was less a reworking of the title than a completely new game that they could recycle assets for and with which they could vent their frustrations
b44673 No.15515799
>>15515779
It was originally a RTS actually.
65a1ab No.15515825
>>15514619
earthbound 64 to mother 3 comes to mind, do heavily fucked games during developing also count? for example blood 2 or VtM:B
ea9b70 No.15515904
Definitely Earthbound 64, I'm still waiting for that Spaceworld demo leak
ea9b70 No.15515922
>>15515825
>>15515904
Earthbound mind.
pray for a N64 mini release of the demo
With a mostly completed game dummied out ready to be put back together by modders
a646bb No.15515924
>>15515799
Bullshit, it was always a marathon-style FPS.
d244bd No.15515934
>>15515825
>Do heavily fucked games during developing also count? for example blood 2 or VtM:B
They shouldn't, if they did pretty much every game released in the last two decades could be added to this list.
b44673 No.15515935
d244bd No.15515939
>>15515924
You're too young to be here.
f31a01 No.15515971
>>15515230
Anita please go.
11ab46 No.15515983
>>15515825
I can't really say that VtMB changed between concept and release. Planned content that wasn't implemented, sure, but not a radical change
I have heard that you were supposed to be able to join the Sabbat
a646bb No.15515999
>>15515935
>previous project envisioned as an RTS means the game it originally turned out to be was originally meant to be an arts
okay, kid. I don't think you know how development works. If it was meant to be an RTS it would have been an RTS, just cause they were throwing darts on the board at some point and it landed on RTS doesn't mean that's what it was supposed to be.
b44673 No.15516008
>>15515999
So you admit it wasn't always a Marathon style FPS?
393883 No.15516064
>>15515779
>for the PC
It was originally announced for Macs.
38baef No.15516426
>>15515957
Got a sauce proving this shit?
dc6359 No.15516478
>>15515999
>If it was meant to be an RTS it would have been an RTS
Are you retarded that only happens in indie titles because there is an extreme bias of their target audience expecting the game to be exactly as it is presented. Behind closed doors a game can go through multiple changes in the middle of development. While they're getting shit done on the technical side or even throw everything out and restart from scratch because they can't recycle the engine they already have.
The AI was pretty much mostly done when they decided to just make it an FPS and didn't really bother to try and drastically change what they got because they didn't have the time.
cf2daf No.15516578
>>15515935
gurl myth aint no rts
5b552c No.15516902
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Twilight Princess beta footage. There was stuff cut out. There is no giant spider chase sequence anymore. Midna also doesn't have sexy long hair with blue streaks either.
5b552c No.15516904
Wind Waker also had islands cut out. Especially Hyrule Castle, which was suppose to be its own dungeon at the end. But Nintendo ran out of time.
c5e90b No.15516905
>>15516563
I think FF8 is the only game in the series that didn't go through a rebuild -rumour being that it was largely rejiggered parasite eve assetts and half the xenogears budget on the sly- but every other one has had a massive rebuild at some point.
89b964 No.15520144
507228 No.15520184
>>15515971
I don't have to be a gypsy whore to like cute cats, anon.
ffbf3e No.15520202
I forgot if it was an infographic or a webpage, but can someone post the original ideas for Mass Effect? The only preproduction idea I remember is Tali's concept art. Because she was my eaifu
ab735e No.15520248
>>15520229
>while fans of Final Fantasy almost universally hate FF8
faggots like you don't speak for everyone
f315aa No.15520476
>>15520248
FF8 is one of those games that was complete garbage back when it came out, but now people say it's great because it's better than the trash current year Square Enix shits out. You can sing the praises of it until your face turns blue, but the broken as fuck magic/GF system and clusterfuck storyline are objectively shit.
ab735e No.15520551
>>15520476
>was complete garbage when it came out
You mean to faggots like you crying because it wasn't FFVI or FFVII?
>broken as fuck magic/GF system
Yeah fuck all those options at your disposal, just be OP, it isn't like you can't be fucking OP in every Final Fantasy. Oh, wait.
>clusterfuck storyline
brainlet, please
41dae0 No.15523089
>>15523071
>FF8 is hated by almost everyone. If you like it, you have shit taste, and that is it.
Someone using Tor shouldn't be saying stuff like that.
10f966 No.15523171
>>15516905
Hoooleee shit that FF6 makes me cum. See, what I wanted to happen is for the Saturn to become the next SNES. So you wouldn't see much change in the genres, but the graphics would be everything the SNES couldn't do. Imagine how much cooler CT would've been if all the sprites had extremely good animation.
Regarding FF8
>Oh shit, it's the new FF. Gotta get it because every FF game is amazing, right guys?
>Oh…it's teenagers.
>Oh…high school romance.
>I think I'm supposed to think Seifer is a badass, but I don't get it.
>Oh…this combat is weird.
>So does the story start making sense or…
>Hey, I can trade this game in towards something I'd probably enjoy.
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102a3b No.15523302
>>15520229
Everyplace i go thats not 8ch praises ff8 even though i personally hate it because of its terrible story and broken game mechanics.
>>15520551
>You mean to faggots like you crying because it wasn't FFVI or FFVII?
At the time i was on a final fantasy binge. FF1-7
were all played in rapid succession, 8 was coming out and i was hyped for what i thought at the time was going to be a very good game.
Bare in mind that i even forgave the horrendous gun blades because lets be honest Cloud wasn't exactly carrying a sword.so much as it was a slab of metal
>Yeah fuck all those options at your disposal, just be OP, it isn't like you can't be fucking OP in every Final Fantasy. Oh, wait.
Those other options weren't exactly great either.
>clusterfuck storyline
More like suspension of disbelief to levels where im no longer willing to swallow a lie.
82a98e No.15523333
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>>15515779
>>15515799
>>15515924
>>15516064
Halo was first imagined as a strategy game, but it had changed into a third-person shooter when it was presented at the 1999 Macworld. It was planned for Windows and Mac, and was supposed to have an open online world. But then, Microsoft bought Bungie and they had to neuter everything to make it playable with a gamepad.
98ae4f No.15524544
>>15515133 (nice)
>"… but I want to see what his Quake might have been like, even if it just ends up being a Hexen clone."
Medieval Daikatana, prabably.
8c98fe No.15524603
>>15514898
That makes a lot of sense, always found it weird how GTA IV felt like a step backwards in terms of ambition.
e4899c No.15524618
>mfw people STILL outwardly hate FFVIII
I've never understood the hate I loved it the first time I played it and I still replay it every so often now. Then again I like every numbered FF except XIII for different reasons.
XII IZJS > VI = IV = III = XII > V = VIII = IX > X > VII = I = II >>>>>>>>>> Mystic Quest >>> XIII
e4cdb5 No.15524984
>>15524618
>4, the game with absolutely no customization of the party rendering it essentially a walking simulator with grinding barriers, over 5
>1 only equal to 2 (this is particularly bad given how horrific and inept a mess the Famicom release of 2 was. The remakes have spoiled everyone.)
84089b No.15525052
>>15514619
Half-Baked ONE as of being prospero and quiver. two different games from the start. But if being honest prospero is it's own thing and only some story bits got into Half-Life.
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5c6edb No.15525163
>>15516902
I remember seeing yet another version of the final trailer but must have been even closer to release cause I don't remember it beeing quite same, only that it had the same music, but the wolf transformation I think looks better/more disturbing in this last trailer.
158e74 No.15525244
>>15516904
Phantom hourglass did have an island shaped like the console you were playing it on so that idea did eventually get used in a zelda game
5c7f2b No.15525678
Sonic Adventure 1 was suppose to be more psychic momentum like the classic Sonic games until they added the stupid homing attack. Beta Windy Valley had many curves and steeps this evidence they experimented with the psychic.
000000 No.15526531
Impotents can't silence me.
>>15523089
The game is still shit, as your taste.
>>15523171
Never forget "time travel is dangerous, but the power of friendship will make it safe".
>>15523302
Other places are run by leftist journos/child rapists. Of course they would praise shit.
>>15524618
Simple answer: the game is shit.
597e72 No.15526659
Deep Down ended up becoming MHW. I'm pissed.
ab735e No.15526679
Samus was intended to be a man, but was changed to a woman late in development as a joke that has been played off as serious ever since.
329a6e No.15526730
>>15525678
>psychic
You mean physic, right?
75f88e No.15526813
>>15523333
This
How did you fucking retards mistake halo for something else???
It was an RTS for macs
597e72 No.15526857
>>15515825
First I've ever seen of this. I am thoroughly upset.