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Most of the fanbase moved onto dark souls 3, and then became completely uninterested in the series afterwards. I have not played DS in years despite having a lot of fun invading people in places like sen's fortress.

>tfw had a friend stuck in the undead burg for 3 hours

>Never was able to meet me at the boss or even get to the burg’s fire place

It’s hard to imagine being that bad at the game. DaS is pretty darn easy. I actually want to see how a person who finds it hard plays it.

>>15493446

>invading people

Invasions are associated with griefing, which became known as a bad offensive thing as of recent, you probably won't see invasions in any upcoming from software games.

>>15493460

I know a person who stuck in undead paris for 12 hours.

>>15493460

I've noticed that they don't learn to dodge or parry. They always just try to block through everything and tank with poise and healing. Even worse was the update that let you block and parry at the same time, it was better when you had to choose one or the other.

>>15493476

>I know a person who stuck in undead paris for 12 hours.

I tried to get through new londo first on my first play through because I the only thing I could remember the depressed guy say is down.

>>15493488

I remember parrying a player being unusually difficult a few months ago. I can do it to most enemies, but I could barely parry at all when being attacked by a player.

You can just summon solaire or whoever it is and the fight is easy.

Wot? I'm not particularly good at DaS and that was about the least stressful boss fight.

When I was a total scrub ruined by modern gaming, these guys killed my second attempt at Dark Souls. First was Taurus. They are no problem now and if you build right you can demolish them. Battle Axe and gold pine resin ends them quick.

>>15493488

But blocking everything worked just fine in dark soul 1, in fact I think I bothered rolling only a handful of times in total. If they could actually block they would be breezing through the game, people that are stuck either play like its devil may cry or fail to keep their surroundings in mind. or one of the many other reasons, I am sure stupidity knows no bounds

>>15493750

Lautrec can also be summoned for the fight after talking to him at the Firelink Shrine

Bell Gargoyles are hard now? What? The only bosses in DaS that gave me asspain are Manus and Artorias. People just don't know how to build a character I guess.

You fucking what? Bell Gargoyles are the second easiest boss. It's a simple task of moving around and not just waiting for them to check your fucking skull or fire resistance. Poor bait.

>>15494538

Not blocking isn't a feat. I've never bothered blocking in a Souls games, aside from getting past those archer cunts in Anor Londo. Using your i-frames is so much more effective.

They were hard at first but once you beat them once you'll almost never lose to them again

>>15494584

KEK

maybe you shouldn't have bullied her so hard though anon, maybe you could've taught her to git gud and had something nice; at least she tried for 3 hours instead of giving up after half an hour

>>15494584

I actually got stuck at Gundyr for about the same amount of time

I forgot rolling had iframes, and thought he couldn't be parried, and I was playing as depraved

>>15494610

Sounds like most girls.

Isn't gargoyles literally the only boss you don't have to fight, you can let lautrec and sunbro kill them for you?

>>15494627

The iron golem can be beaten by tarkus no problem.

>>15494627

Iron Tarkus can kill Iron Golem for you.

>>15494627

Yep. I don't know how people can be this retarded.

>>15493434

Remember when sonyggers and neoFAG tried to put Demon's Souls on a pedestal as "the only good one"? Remember when they did the same with Bloodborne?

Bell Gargoyles in DS2 were harder, but not particularly hard in any of those games.

>>15493520

Yeah parrying players is much more difficult because of network latencies. My post was more directed for the pve portion of the game.

>>15493981

If you were overleveled then yeah you could block through everything. By this I mean during boss fights where I would see these players just walk right up to the boss, tank as much of their hits as possible and then attack a few times once the boss left an opening and retreat and repeat. Hold block, attack a few times, and walk back. Barely any active input or strategy. A lot of these bad players do this by just blocking through everything, usually with heavy armor and/or high poise, if they're real shitters then add in a great shield too. It's an incredibly boring to play because it just becomes "hold down blocking while you wait for the opening". I can't see how that low amount of interactivity is any fun. And as >>15494575 says dodging is even more effective, but you need just a little extra amount of interactivity and reaction speed/hand-eye coordination. Something too much for many of these bad players.

>>15494556

Artorias was so fun the first time around. Gave me the most trouble, but on NG+ I got him on my second try since once you have the pattern it's very straight forward. I wish I could fight him for the first time again.

>>15495029

Bell Gargoyles in DS2 were dumb, they do so little stamina damage when you block their attacks that you can just poke them to death with any weapon that can attack behind a shield.

>>15496166

Is it really ripping off if it's using the same source material?

>>15496166

That's a pretty okay bait

Is Dark Souls 3 any good for pvp and co-op? I got it on ps4 and remember hating it but I was depressed then due to some irl stuff. Should I give it a replay? Also am I the only one who thought Dark Souls 2 had the best community?

>>15495006

Soul Sacrifice had a nice creepy bleak vibe with interesting lore behind every monster

>>15495029

Bell Gargoyles in 2 were only hard because they tripled the amount you had to face. That was pretty much the whole game's gimmick

>>15496223

I dont know how I manged to beat them and the ancient dragon.

>>15496207

No, DS is a single player game first, the game was hindered by forced multiplayer PvP and ultimately its shit in both but mostly in PvP., its good for CoOp though, but only if you don't know the bosses tricky shit, otherwise two players can make short work of all bosses

I made it harder my first time because I wanted to chop off their tails and get the Axe.

>>15496223

Beating them for the Gold Serpent ring+3 at level 120 was incredibly hard, even in full upgraded Max armor, the fuckers where killing me in a few blows, and also i was doing fuck all damage to them. Tried them like 40 times until i could beat their ganking ass.

>>15496229

Well, is it worth replaying for the single player experience? I only have really dull boring memories with it.

>>15496216

>kalameets tail

Oh fuck that.

>>15496322

Broken one's that are unfinishable. There's hard and then there's poorly programmed hard. Vice City's PC port quintessentially did not let you finish the game unless you had a PS2 controller to connect to your pc, any vehicle that isn't on air or sea is the hardest thing to control, it would be easier to fly a real helicopter without any prior knowledge in real life than it would be to try over and over again in Vice City. After that I gave up. Say what you will, Dark Souls lets you win.

>>15496298

I got close a few times just focusing on the tail when I found some players to be bait, but that place is pretty fucking barren for sunbros/white phantoms.

>>15496298

>Not just using cheat engine to put it in your inventory

>>15493476

>you probably won't see invasions in any upcoming from software games.

Hopefully because they learned they can't into multiplayer.

>not parrying everything that can be parried

>especially ornstein

>>15497212

Parrying is usually inefficient. The animation takes so long that you do less DPS than if you just mashed light attack constantly. It's only good for spike damage in PvP.

>>15497222

>dps

>not feeling like a god by parrying giants

Dark souls is a power fantasy to me

What? I bought the first Dark Souls game friday and the gargoyles were not hard at all. The red douchebags that pop up all the time are harder. Every time they invade when you try to fight they always parry and OHKO you unless you spam fireballs at the faggots.

>>15493434

That's a bit sad. Last time I played Dark Souls they went down pretty swiftly.

I guess we can expect the return of "This is artificial difficulty!"

>>15497338

This. He is a faggot but he has 100% beat more games than just about everyone here.

>>15497338

>implying

He's just persistent. He would have stopped Dark Souls at Blighttown if his fans didn't baby him and give him a full set of gear. And on top of that playing games is his full time job, he shouldn't need anyone's help.

>>15497412

That's just a puzzle boss. Demons Souls had those too.

Defeated them while using a mouse and key board.

>>15497483

It's a physics puzzle-boss. Dragon God's retarded stealth bullshit is still at least easily consistently done, even if it's not fun and shit.

>>15493460

a friend of mine couldnt beat the very first boss… gave up thinking he had to do some weird/obscure thing to beat the boss.

>>15497828

There is no physics invovled aside from your jump to the branch. The floor pieces always collapse in the same pattern.

>>15498043

Every single time you get hit by the arms there's physics involved in where you end up. Sure, if you brought a bow or firebombs you're never going to get hit by those arms, but

>>15498670

That's called being moved by their hitbox, no physics calcs involved, retard. I bet you think steam installs apps.

I'm not really sure what happened with me and the Souls series. It took me so long to beat Phalanx and after that, I just felt tired playing the game. I bought DaS on PC and again, got as far as the first boss in the Undead Parish and just gave up on it. Then I had DaS2 as a present, and while I got stuck at first, in Heide's Tower of Flame because I thought that was the first area you're meant to go to I managed to beat Dragonrider and gradually made my way through the game, without summoning too many times.

After that, I went back to DeS and DaS and I fared so much better and really enjoyed the games. I hit a few brick walls in both games but I managed to beat them solo. By the time I got back round to playing them, the playerbase was pretty low (or there was an issue with my connection), so summoning wasn't an option unless I would wait around for 15+ minutes, which was just annoying. The Bell Gargoyles, aren't difficult at all. If you can make it to that point in the game, you can deal with these guys, even with non-upgraded equipment which I did on my first attempt, died twice but figured out the boss pattern. I didn't really get parrying down until I played DaS3 and even then I'm shit at it. Reality is, as long as you manage stamina and go light with your equipment, you don't need a lot of the stuff the game gives you. Sure, upgraded equipment speeds up how long it takes to kill something but it doesn't really stop you.

Dark Souls was a mistake.

I played DaS 1-3 with sword and shield and loved it. I neve even thought about not having a shield on, since most regular starting characters have a shield or you find one soon enough. Only after BB I realised you could just dodge, and while some places of the game became more difficult, it also became less fun. Shields seem to be a large part of the gameplay, and dodging erratically sometimes just feels a bit wrong, even if it does take a bit more skill especially in DaS3 bosses with tons of attacks such as Demon Prince.

>>15496289

Not really.

>>15497120

Seathe's is tricky, but a lot more doable. You get him to come to blow up his own immortality crystal and while he's reeling you run behind him. Can't tell you how many times he's moved his tail out of the way just as I was about to cut it though.

>>15497171

I actually remember reading a prototype of the Giant Dad build that had you pumping Resistance and using a Chaos infused Pike. Obviously that didn't become the meme, but it would still probably be an okay build.

>>15497835

I talked with someone who couldn't beat the Asylum Demon either. I told him you have to run away to a door on the side. He said he did that. I told him it helps to go for the plunging attack. He said he did that and still couldn't beat him. I still have no fucking clue how bad you have to be at videogames for this. This man also argued with me at length about why FF13 was a good game.

I’ll give you a bone and admit a multi enemy boss can be hard for a first timer. But you have no excuse with two npc summons to have not beaten it at all

i beat them but it took me a combined 5 hours or so, and after all the running back to them i really got sick of things

quit after i rang the bell since i didn't know where i was supposed to go next. the crypts only looked harder with all those reviving skeletons

>>15499201

It still dumbfounds me to this day. Were I to guess he was drastically overthinking the fight and thought to keep his distance. I really should have asked him more questions, but it was a friend's birthday and we had already argued about FF13 at length.

For my first run, I followed /v/'s advice and didn't use any magic. I basically went to 40 STR with club and tried to 1HKO (or 3 hit) most enemies. This basically made me a glass cannon. I got through the Bell Gargoyles and Capra Demon no problem, and Blight Town gave me zero problems. I stopped playing around Biggiesmalls like many others, though.

I do have some trouble with the gargoyles, mostly in trying to find an opening and eventually getting whittled down, it's not like I try to tank them, I'm just careless/aggressive.

>>15499614

Not gonna lie, using magic is DaS is the big gay

The first time I tried DaS I got to Oreo and Smalls easily enough but then got bored after a few hours of not beating them and moved on to other things. Came back a couple years later and breezed through the game after doing some reading on how stats work and finally figuring out that 90% of gitting gud means avoiding taking shots.

dude just use the pine resin lmao

Gargoyles are weird. Sometimes I fight them and they're pathetically easy but other times they're a pain in the ass.

I still enjoy Dark Souls a lot

>>15499367

D E E P E S T

L O R E

>>15506134

>roll through dogs

>charge up stairs

>get to the far right corner of stage and guard or attack as dogs come

>take care of them

>the rest is a cake walk

The initial roll is very important.

>>15506134

1) Have poise

2) Press attack until dogs die

3) Beat a really easy 'big guy with big weapon' boss

>>15493434

It's a reasonable boss encounter. That means it's ten thousand times difficult than any modern game. You might have to actually wipe a few times to get the fight down. Imagine that.

>>15506134

POISE POISE POISE POISE POISE POISE

>>15494556

Manus was EZPZ. Just shoot him from the cliff.

>>15493434

Dark Souls 1 was the only great Dark Souls game.

>>15506134

Get the Ring of Fog by trading a skull lantern to Snuggly the Crow as it makes the dogs aggro range smaller letting you run to the staircase with more ease

>>15497338

I don't know why but he has the face of a genuine, nice guy. Unfortunately, he's cursed with his shit attitude towards video games.

>>15499367

That's absolute horseshit

>>15494584

I remember hanging out with a girl that loved Dark Souls. Fucking adored everything about it. The aesthetics, characters and gameplay. She used a trainer 99% of the time to make herself invincible and she never played online.

>>15493434

Blame (((journalists))).

>>15493434

That proves most of them never got past Anal Rodeo.

4 kings was one of the most difficult bosses in the game.

>Have to kill them quickly or more spawn

>Completely black hard to judge distance of attacks

>Quick attacks with high damage

>Homing missile attacks that persist for 30 seconds or more.

Captcha: Cuneay

>>15493434

Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls are fun games. Too bad thee series was taken over by retards who have to circklejerk about how cool they are for liking these games.

>>15493434

>Nowadays everyone suddenly became just as bad as DSP

They never "became" that bad, they always were. A lot of people played videogames during the 90s and 00s, but that doesn't mean they beat many of them or were any good at them. I didn't beat many games as a kid but I went back to them in recent years. I think most people are in a similar boat, but instead of going back and finishing these games they gave up on them and carried on playing newer and easier ones.

That also explains why the Water Temple in Ocarina of Time is considered to be hard by casuals.

>>15506134

Make your way to Andre in the Parish. Grind out 20k souls farming Titanite shards on Bauldr Knights. Buy Artys seal. Run past Titanite demon, ents, and all the way down to the door with the shiny symbol. To the left is an illusory wall with a bonfire. Now open the seal. In the woods are a bunch of enemies the drop 2k souls. Farm up enough souls to reach SL100. That should get you to about blight town. By then you will need to come back and grind up to about SL150 which should carry you to Sen's fortress.

>>15518926

Its because that one key is hidden in a room below a floating block in the central column and you run around the whole place looking for a door or path you didn't go into and you feel like a fucking retard when you finally figure it out.

>>15519297

If you haven't beaten Dark Souls on level 1 with only a club you can't really say you've beaten Dark Souls.

>>15519347

club is easy mode, scales great with strength and almost everything is weak to crush.

>>15519297

Now do it without power within, the red tearstone ring, and a chaos club with 10 humanity. In fact, why don't you just use your fists or a broken straight sword.

So has everyone flocked to to the remaster of the first dark souls or is there still some life in the original PC version? Had a hankering to play again so curious

>>15519436

I made an all melee fighter that was a int build but with no spells.

It abused bleed as all my two weapons were barbed short sword and painting guardian sword, and barbed shield.

Painting Sword scales S rank with Int when enchanted so I could shit out 400 damage a swipe with dagger moveset with bleeding to boot.

>>15519436

>tried the remaster network test on the switch

>graphics are insanely ugly now for whatever reason

>textures are worse

>30fps

>doesn’t even look to be in 1080p

>dodging feels off

It makes me sad just how much they phoned the remaster in and all it’ll manage to do is kill the online for the old game and split the community.

Wait till you get to ceaseless discharge.

>>15525091

personally i found the capra demon to be easier, probably because I was more used to the systems by then.

>>15519297

>power within

I did that fight without pyromancy. The only bosses I killed with pyromancy was Gwen and Manus. In fact, I didn't even know pyromancy was a viable strategy until I got stuck in the DLC.

>>15525037

god, damn it.

i beat the bell gargoyles on my first try, what does that say about me? granted i watched a video of it beforehand to learn about the tail weapon, but other than that it's the same as souls combat in general: time attacks and roll like there's no tomorrow. i thought the ds2 gargoyles were more difficult since there were more to dodge.

yeah but I used a summon

>>15519436

>Dark Souls Mods

Don't forget "Rekindled Edition" which changes and rebalances a lot of weapons.

>>15525091

I beat the crapracorn man first try. gargoyles took me a while

>>15493434

i beat them on my first try, same as capra demon, not even joking, took me less than 10 tries to kill Ornstein and Smough tho

>>15494554

Some idiots like to cut themselves off from gameplay features.

I guess it makes them feel more accomplished.

>>15525091

that hydra's face pisses me off.

I dont get dark souls, ive played and gotten decent at it but its so boring. It feels like a niche game sorta like a jrpg or rts niche. I just never found it any fun

>>15493434

>literally one of the most easiest bosses in the entire series

>>15493446

>invading people

ok

>in sens fortress

You're one sick motherfucker and I hope you fucking burn to death

>>15518142

>4 kings was the hardest

I beat them easy, in fact I died more often from falling to my death when the game glitched out.

not a difficult game at all when you play as a sorcerer and just spam homing crystals with sunlight spear

>>15532150

i had a level 7 giant dad i camped out the undead church with even if they had some fuckery on their side i just used "firestream?" whatever the spammy as fuck pyromancy was but you cant really do anything pre gargole that can get damage threw giants armor and the zwihander, o god the zwihander in tight spaces could just fug an entire party but hot shit you only need 16 strength to 2 hand and they just give it to you right away, i felt justified as i thought people should just play the game single player rather than begging for help, kinda felt like a dick but then trying to invade in DS 3 broke me of that pretty fucking quickly with their level 120 babysitters that drug their fat asses threw the game, the countless disconnects or the fucking fight club wannabes that got pissed the moment someone used an estus flask and had their hacked bouncer "take out the trash"

>>15519404

Original is pretty quiet. I've seen a few summon signs and got some help with O&S, no invasions though.

>>15493434

First couple times through, they are kind of surprising and hard to keep track of.. but once you figure out their very limited moveset, they're pretty easy to just rush down and end them without a lot of overcomplicated slow and methodical bullshit.

>>15519332

This tbh. To this day every consecutive run I often forget this room but honestly that is not enough for me to think the Water Temple was hard

>>15533505

I had a dude invade me in Sen's Fortress just to do the Greatsword gravelord dance in a hallway. It was both funny and awful