f01329 No.15486858
Remember in the 90's and 00's when "replayability" was a big buzzword among devs and game critics? It was one of the harshest standards games were held against. Action games often included multiple endings or branching stories. RPGs used to provide tons of skills that accommodate different approaches. I just remember "replayability" being the big thing games strived for and marketing often revolved around emphasizing "replayability." But now you never hear that word and games are being deliberately streamlined to be good for only one playthrough. Now excessive skills in an RPG are considered "bloat" and "superfluous" because people can no longer wrap their heads around the concept of approaching a game with more than one playstyle. It seems that all discussion surrounding big single player releases wraps up within a month and the only "replayable" games, anymore, are the multiplayer ones that can continually put out microtransactions.
eaf238 No.15486882
>>15486858
well yeah, they actually had to sell games back in the day. nowadays reddit will just buy anything flashy, but back in the day you had to actually work
8af3eb No.15486885
>>15486858
New game plus used to be more then just being a bit more powerful, the game was completely reworked to match NG+, with new enemies and bosses have unique phases to reflect this.
614c1d No.15486892
Cheap games killed a lot of the necessity of replayability. A game just doesn't need to last 100 hours, when you picked up 50 more for the price one game in the 90's in a Steam sale last week.
f01329 No.15486902
>>15486892
That's a good point and it would explain games like Hearthstone, Fallout Shelter and all these cheesy mini-installments of big franchises.
98d1f8 No.15486952
there was a brief period in time when vidya was an anti social activity where complexities and depth were necessary to keep someone engaged. now vidya is more of a social thing where too much depth and complexities can get in the way of the actual purpose which is playing with your bros, dude!
f1964e No.15486986
Ratchet and Clank had the best NG+.
>harder enemies
>but you get stronger weaponry and more bolts/XP modifiers
>all skill points are no longer hidden and can unlock some sweet shit like the Deadlocked ninja mode
>Insomniac museum
302f93 No.15487081
>>15486885
The Ratchet and Clank games had great NG+ modes. You got new weapon mods and everything. Then they started getting lazy.
In Quest for Booty there wasn't even a NG+ mode whatsoever. That game is easily the worst of the main series.
>>15486984
That image has a lot of truth to it, a lot of the annoying fucks on old 4chan turned into annoying fuck adults.
68307f No.15487121
>>15486984
>at first I was an underaged newfag
<now I am a Greater Faggot
<The kids will ascend just as I have.
abdf6e No.15487156
>>15487121
There is a saying: "if you aren't a liberal by 25 you don't have a heart, if you aren't a conservative by 30 you don't have a brain"
Don't worry, he'll actually grow up one day
ecae40 No.15487297
>>15486858
With so many games out there, you can always just play a different one instead of replaying an old one. Few games these days ever end up being good enough to be worth replaying anyways, that's the bigger problem to be honest.
614c1d No.15487331
>>15486984
That's funny. I was a liberal in 2007.
614c1d No.15487340
>>15487081
If you were the kind of sadist who got off on torturing Chrischan, you probably get off on feeling powerful as you destroy the West too. Kind of glad we're growing past those people.
a4a5a8 No.15487354
>>15486858
99% of devs don't design games with the people who actually play games in mind anymore, they all want to appeal to the widest possible audience
a7e669 No.15487373
>>15487340
To be fair, there was a point where Chris had to realize that if he just went dark for a while everything would have blown over, autism or no. But he kept feeding the trolls. I’m not saying the goons were justified in hounding him for years, but you have to admit that after a while he was bringing it on himself.
dfaa96 No.15487394
>>15487156
Lmao, I knew I will see a retard like you one day misunderstanding Churchill's quote.
0315f2 No.15487403
>>15486885
The original New Game+ was the exact opposite, Chrono Trigger had you go on to do the game over, and you kept everything that made you too strong. I guess the idea was to make it easy to experience all the endings faster. But it wasn't until later on that New Game+ actually changed the difficulty of the game.
5b9ced No.15487404
>>15486858
I remember reading a game magazine back in the day where they just straight up said if a game is not worth full price. Also called out some garbage games for being movies. Nowadays almost none of those guys are left and its infested with SJWs.
>>15487373
Also helps that Chris is a terrible human being, the way he thinks the world owes him shit, the cat he killed etc.
614c1d No.15487414
>>15487373
Chris is borderline retarded. He actually believed a stock image of some guido and a man in a pickle suit were his mortal enemies. I don't think you can make the assumption he understood anything that was happening.
614c1d No.15487437
>>15487404
Back in the day people used to argue he deserved it for being a racist(and he was obviously just absorbing those views from his elderly father who was one of his only windows onto the world). It's all hot air. Sadists want something weak to beat on. No one actually thinks they're bringing a bad man to justice, when they make him shove things up his ass, or turn him into a tranny.
314936 No.15487493
>>15486858
You're not the costumer for games anymore. Shareholders are. You're just a revenue stream. They work under the mantra "the least amount of effort to achieve the maximum amount of revenue". This business model doesn't leave breathing room for any form of creativity. Furthermore all this doesn't even contain all the illegal rackets they pull to corrupt the process of making it, the product itself and the future landscape for it.
f0f604 No.15487508
Replayability is actually one of the single most important characteristics of a good game. Unfortunately, hack reviewers have a habit of conflating replayability with "extra content". For instance, does a game have a lot of side quests, items to collect, things to do after being the final boss? Those are all examples of extra content, but they are not replayability.
Replayability is quite literally whether or not a game is fun to play all over again. Some of the most replayable games are short, arcade-like experiences, particularly those with a lot of mechanical depth or deep scoring systems.
What is not replayable? A 100 hour-long cinematic experience.
0e2179 No.15487539
>>15486858
Modern games aren't designed to be replayable, because the industry is designed to endlessly churn out incremental entries of the most popular game series every year.
So if you're satisfied just replaying the older game, there's less incentive to buy the newest one.
8e5653 No.15487540
any game has "high replayability" if you think it's fun enough
the end
b7c7b0 No.15487545
>>15487331
Same. To my great shame I even voted for Obama. I didn't a complete 180 and slingshot to the other end of the scale now. Liberalism is a disease that's incubated by diseased people. Diseased of the body and mind and soul, every one of them.
If only I could figure out what it was that made me change, I could give it to them too.
e2bcbe No.15487548
Very few games have true replayability, that is mechanics and design that are so intricate they can be engaged with meaningfully to create different experiences that truly play differently, as in how you engage with them, each time. Super mario bros and half life ultimately have very similar replayabilty. Either you squash the goomba or not, either the vortigauny kills the HECU or not, the impact on you negligible. something like umihara kawase or ikaruga or melty blood will be significantly different each time you play, replaying them will grant you a heightened understanding of the game on a mechanical level which can be applied in meaningful ways and checked against the games internal systems which encourage better play and experimentation.
I find that most people who praise or seek replayability truly want sedation instead of a new experience. They want a familiar and regurgitated experience they know, not something that challenges them or engages with them. After all, when replaying deus ex sure you can use the assault rifle or auto shotgun, but you are definitely not doing it to engage or understand new mechanics. Fundamentally you'll gain nothing from it and treat it more as a check list as you fall back to your default style of play.
f0f604 No.15487564
>>15487548
Ikaruga is a pretty bad example among scrolling shooters actually; the game is a robotic puzzle memorizer. The bosses are scripted exactly the same every time and the stages themselves only expand predictably as you kill enemies faster. All the enemies and bosses attack you in exactly the same predictable manner every time. A far better example of replayability is the semi-random aspects of enemies and their item drops and the quite heavily randomized boss behavior in Raizing shooters.
e0b3cd No.15487580
>>15487493
tbh it's for the best because devs are fucking lazy asses that constantly get off on their 'creative proof of concept' that is forever in early access. case in point: adgd or any EA game
f0f604 No.15487582
>>15487548
>>15487564
In fact I might even argue that Super Mario Bros. is a more varied replay experience than Ikaruga because Super Mario Bros. at least has some stochastic variation in enemy behavior for Hammer Bros. and Bowser.
314936 No.15487583
>>15487548
I play Doom wads for over two decades on regular basis. Still fun, still challenging, still see new stuff every once in a while.
You guys are wasting time arguing about replay ability, which can be found few and far between. The question you should be arguing is "why is today's market so over flooded with one and done experiences"?
e2bcbe No.15487588
>>15487564
Ikaruga is still a game which as you replay it you will understand more and more about it, your first time playing will be a world apart from your 20th. It will also improve as you increase the difficulty. A replayable game doesn't need to be infinitely replayable.
f0f604 No.15487591
>>15487583
Doom wads are not an example of replayability. You're playing a different game every time you play a new Doom wad.
e2bcbe No.15487599
>>15487583
>"why is today's market so over flooded with one and done experiences"?
Maybe because it's all you pay attention to is those games or think you are making some grand and sweeping revelation.
314936 No.15487616
>>15487580
Those devs you're talking about came from the recent indie scene. This scene was directly attacked and assimilated by capitalism. Creativity was sucked out and only greed was left. Meanwhile the traditional devs are handcuffed by more and more laws and regulations. The ones on top are holding the talent close and imprisoned for their revenue model, while the future of gaming (the indies) were forced into a lifestyle movement that only operates on quick cash.
f01329 No.15487639
>>15487508
True, but I was saying you don't see the word "replayability" at all anymore. Newer buzzwords seem to be "accessible" and "immersive" and it isn't just that games are no longer judged by replayability, it also seems to have become commonplace to spend upwards of $60 on a single player game only ever planning to play it once. And, to be fair, most of the "cinematic experiences" coming out these days last around 12 hours and they're still one-and-done games.
>>15487548
>I find that most people who praise or seek replayability truly want sedation instead of a new experience. They want a familiar and regurgitated experience they know, not something that challenges them or engages with them.
Imagine making this comment about people who take out their chess board on more than one occasion. If you're thinking along the lines of platformers and action-adventure games, then of course you can't see how games can continue to offer challenge with future playthroughs. But what about cRPGs, turn-based and real-time strategies (especially those with map editors), and, in general, all those games that require multiple full playthroughs to master?
6f5701 No.15487640
>>15486952
Depth and complexity only exist in strategy games. Every other genre is about fun, except for RPGs, because all pure RPGs are fucking garbage.
d15d8d No.15487687
8af3eb No.15487728
>>15487081
>The Ratchet and Clank games had great NG+
They did.
>>15487540
This is one of the most reddit things I've seen in a while.
314936 No.15487729
>>15487591
Well I do replay vanilla too, since most of the wads are rather shitty.
>>15487599
Nah, I'm still cruising all over the genres. Triple A I can't even touch without a trainer to circumvent all the time wasting bullshit mechanics, then non interactivity movie game fiasco, the forced political propaganda, the serialization of everything, the recent garbage dump of full price retro remakes…
Then we have the indies…90% unfinished, bare bones, just a hasty concept slapped together and called a game, procedural generated boredom, Patreon scams, all the VR mini games, VN non games, walking simulator non games etc.
Japanese games…once the backbone of gaming now more and more westernized. Many of the RPGs are all flashy with no substance, even Musous dropped in quality, the fighting games lost any attractiveness for single players, shoot em ups and rhythm games are just a trickle here and there.
What's left…phone games are gambling, modern multiplayer equals youtube indoctrination, sports games are the same shit I played decades ago, racing games are mostly awfully boring, all the creative middle budget games are dead.
If I'm being honest the only game I look forward to is the PC port of EDF 5.
8af3eb No.15487743
>>15487729
Most modern Jap games are still way better then western AAA for the sole fact they at least try to be a game still and not a move or leftist speaking point.
314936 No.15487763
>>15487743
>are still
As someone who saw it all unfolding since the beginning…they won't be for much longer. Also FF15 was unplayable shit. Absolute ridiculous that they got away with such a clusterfuck of a game. Killed any further interaction with the series for me.
8af3eb No.15487772
>>15487763
I gave the fuck up on FF long ago, but I'll give 15 this one thing. It was pretty cozy to just chill with your mates, while on a road trip.
bf34b2 No.15487797
replay value is extraordinarily important for any non-linear shooter i.e. half-life/quake and games have zero excuse not to be replayable for infinite amounts of time with custom matches
see counter-strike source, a person could play this for until death because of bots, it has infinite replay value.
8787d3 No.15487809
Because there's no point when every singleplayer game gets insta-datamined these days. Why put so much work making multiple endings or a NG+ when some jewtuber like Prosafia will just dance all over your efforts and leak everything on the internet? They will consume your game at a millionth of the time it took you to create it. It's like feeding piranhas gourmet food.
And even if you don't care about that shit, most gamers nowadays "have no time" for playing SP games and would rather just watch someone beat the game how they please. Videogames have become all about the destination and not at all about the ride.
314936 No.15487841
>>15487772
You watch a car drive by itself, in an empty MMO over world, filled with random enemy spawns, which you fight in a two button movie sequence. The whole story is more linear than 13, the MMO stuff is just filler content, there is no item management, there is no exploring, you get nothing out of leveling up, there is no interesting loot, the photography and cooking is just a no gameplay menu, story is utter nonsense and barely stitched together, bosses suck ass, endgame content is a boring joke, and nothing in this game has anything to do with Final Fantasy…like the original soundtracks and FF retro monster encounters feel entirely out of place.
The whole thing is just a graphically polished demo of different concepts. Feels like leftovers from the cutting table.
69b47c No.15487845
>>15487729
If you can still find a modern videogame that you like such as EDF5 then you can definitely find more elsewhere. Even then you can always look backwards and emulate old titles since they were at least competent to their audience. A handful of games back then did not have an "Easy Difficulty" or just had a set difficulty which implies that they were not pandering to casuals like most modern games now do. Nice spacing by the way.
8af3eb No.15487848
>>15487841
FF15 also had no fucking idea what type of game it wanted to be at fucking all. It was a mashup of incoherent trash.
05a716 No.15487855
>>15487331
I used to think I was left-ish back when the people espousing the idea weren't insufferable little shits like the guy in pic >>15486984
that smug turd is in for a surprise when he actually grows up and realises what a misguided dupe he is and what unrealistic trash his opinions are. Funny how tiny dweebs like that are perspective blind to their own place in their political timeline and can never imagine a future where they could look back and think themselves wrong. Heaven forbid that genuine reflection on their own thought processes ever hit them, that their own hubris doesn't catch up and actually make them learn for once rather than Dunning/Kruger-ing through life.
In a generation an influx of premier tier retarded youth and vociferous trannyfaggots have utterly poisoned any passable ideas the left had by association, as every sensible idea gets blown into the realm of fucking lubricious fantasy, active obnoxious agenda pushing and promoting personal/social/generational/racial and economic suicide. The lot of them are cunts, the nulibfags are just fucking dumb and on their 'babbas first political opinion' high, a decade will shake that shit out of them as life gets its claws in but the fucking old libtards are way beyond help now, how anyone could still identify as a liberal after seeing the shitshow it has descended into world-wide is a fucking mook.
20040e No.15487857
8af3eb No.15487864
>>15487857
NG+ is fun when done right.
20040e No.15487975
>>15487864
it's a replayability gimmick. period.
314936 No.15488000
>>15487845
>Nice spacing by the way.
In my defense, I never posted on reddit.
>>15487848
It's like they wasted all those years on a bunch of loose concepts and at one point the publisher said fuck it, slap it all together and we polish all the holes with graphics and marketing. Literally organized crime making video games.
4012f7 No.15488045
>But now you never hear that word and games are being deliberately streamlined to be good for only one playthrough.
Casual consumers don't play games more than once, they shelf the game once the credits stop rolling. Journalists reviewing these games between being incompetent and not having the time to replay the game never take it into consideration anymore either. So now every studio uses really hamfisted exposition techniques like walky-talkies that directly worsen replay value because they don't think anyone is going to play the game twice anyway
8af3eb No.15488080
>>15487975
I'm guessing you don't replay games?
20040e No.15488125
>>15488080
>I'm guessing you don't replay games?
I'm guessing you're retarded and desperately trying to avoid the reality that NG+ is a replayability gimmick.
f01329 No.15488134
>>15487545
For me it was when I stopped paying for cable.
f01329 No.15488190
>>15488045
It's funny because that long walk through a hallway, where two characters unload exposition, has always been the mark of a really bad writer. But now the low standards in movies and TV have made hamfisted exposition such a staple of entertainment that now we have audiences that delight at being able to experience the expository hallway walk in their video games.
4012f7 No.15488198
>>15488190
I can understand why journalists would like that method because they are so desperate to feel mature for playing a game that any conversation between characters that even remotely resembles a real conversation is high art to them, what I don't get is how the fuck casuals can enjoy it, casuals were the guys that would just skip cutscenes because "it's boring" but now buy games with massive amounts of unskippable exposition. Does it only take one or two set pieces to impress the casuals so much they forget how much of the game was just holding forward or other means of padding?
f01329 No.15488213
>>15488198
I know it's ironic but I think casuals enjoy it because they watch shit like Law and Order and Avengers that always include a scene in the beginning where two people walk and describe exposition. So normalfags get to that part of a video game and think "whoa, it really is like being inside one of my TV shows!"
470682 No.15488226
You ever played way of the samurai 4? its super short but there is like 12 different endings based on who you want to support and who you kill. I wish more games were structured like that, just have short games with a lot of re-playability.
699d4d No.15488234
>>15488226
You might like Age of Decadence then
bf823a No.15488715
>replayability
>Buzzword
Nigger learn what words are before you click clack your fucking disgusting fingers on your keyboard.
As for what happened
Replayability was canned for disposability which is better for the migratory hipster faggots that are in charge of most Western AAA development and actually fucking hate videogames because it allows them to easier control the greater "narrative" concerning videogames because the faster people drop games the faster you take eyes off any narrative they tried to craft.
This is also why once it got a hold on it, NOBODY should have entertained efforts to push people away from undertale because it almost immediately became propaganda fodder
614c1d No.15488756
>>15487545
Open mindedness, as ironic as it sounds. The liberals these days are just the masses who refuse to step outside of their pen. You had curiosity.
dc234b No.15488757
>>15488226
The whole series is like that. Age of Decadence is indeed one of the few other games to do that though.
f01329 No.15489136
>>15488715
It was a buzzword by the way it was parroted by every game reviewer and marketing campaign for years without regard to what replayabilty actually means. And other anons here are correct that gimmicks were often tacked onto games just so devs could advertise replayability.
32ae9b No.15489272
>>15488715
At least Undertale brought us Genesis posting
a7e669 No.15490183
>>15487437
But that’s the thing, no one “made” him do anything.
No troll “made” his mom attempt vehicular manslaughter against a man because he banned her retarded kid from his place of business.
No one “made” him mace a gamestop employee because Sonic’s arms weren’t the right color.
Chris didn’t deserve all the shit he got, but don’t make him out to be an innocent victim.
ecd148 No.15490526
>>15487404
>Chris is a terrible human being
He's just a retard that was funny to laugh at. Many of his trolls, and the majority of his hatedom, are way worse than he is.
bbd1c9 No.15490574
>>15487545
>>15488756
>Calling the modern Democrats "Liberal"
Liberal values are all about the rights of the individual. The modern Democrats want to ban guns, arrest you for thought crime, restrict what you can say and publish, and raise taxes for mandatory systems that have been proven to fail. They are the opposite of liberals.
386396 No.15490576
It's much easier to surmise when vidya industry became overtaken by faggots and tranner SJWs: 2007. Replayability itself was expected to be about 3 playthroughs or more and standard even for the shittiest of games (or AAA and AA/A titles).
f884e3 No.15490606
>>15486984
>JK_Rowling
wat?
ecd148 No.15490625
>>15490183
Chris was always at his funniest when he was acting on his own, without prodding from trolls.
142f90 No.15490627
>>15490610
>>15490576
I should've done this long ago, but I made a folder just for 2007 shite. Got any more like these?
04b245 No.15490679
you don't want to replay shit that takes 100 hours to finish, which is what niggas want nowadays, feeling scammed when the game just lasts 15-20h
c9f614 No.15490688
>>15487545
GamerGate and "Feminism" did it for me.
5e99da No.15490746
>>15490610
>second pic related
I remember hearing that the infamous "our son doesn't want to be raised furry, what do we do?" post was a shitpost all along. I would not be surprised if that was too.
000000 No.15490841
>>15486858
Replayability is expensive, so now game journos are paid to pretend it doen't exist.
Thanks to the magic of padding, most consumers won't complete your game anyways, so why bother addimg more content?
The opposite can be equally cancerous, with indie devs realizing how procedural progression and rogue-like progression can produce hours of gameplay at minuscule costs.
3d9e30 No.15491345
c0a739 No.15491419
>>15487545
>If only I could figure out what it was that made me change, I could give it to them too.
Internet memes, probably.
33f189 No.15491488
>>15490610
>TTGL bringing newfags to /a/
>Lucky Star making moeblob popular
>not Naruto and Haruhi
a6967c No.15491498
>>15487545
I know this is off topic but what the hell. The thing that got me into the redpill rabbit hole was HWNDU. I kept wondering why "those pesky 4chan trolls" won't ever leave "poor" Shia. I took the courage to do research, learnt about Gamergate, and the next thing you know, I learnt about why the jews are assholes. I am glad to say I can withstand the truth with no fear now.
f01329 No.15491510
>>15490574
>Liberal values are all about the rights of the individual.
No. You're thinking of "individualism" or "humanism." "Liberalism" is an economic philosophy that gets conflated with social issues in the commie so certain authoritarian commies can pass themselves off as humanitarians. If you equate liberalism with civil rights, then you fell for the psyop.
415387 No.15491729
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90's and early 00's, the vidya market was smaller and only children and enthusiasts bought games. Selling a million copies was an achievement. Kids don't have money and they only get a few games a year for birthdays and christmas, and adult enthusiasts are picky and only want to spend their time on the best stuff. Replayability or length was important because adults got more value for their money, and kids could enjoy the same game for months.
Now, the vidya market includes literally everyone on earth, and normalfags will buy anything their marketing gods tell them to buy, and then drop it three days later and buy the next thing in an endless effort to fill the purposeless void inside them that their normalfaggotry creates. There's a reason marketing budgets are the same size as the development budget for AAA trash.
f01329 No.15491782
>>15491729
>There's a reason marketing budgets are the same size as the development budget for AAA trash.
Yeah, in those rare cases when marketing budget doesn't completely dwarf development budget.
547db0 No.15491795
>>15491510
This is almost no true scotsman tier. The only people who drank the coolaid are the "real" liberals and the people making excuse for them since they're nowhere to be seen and let commies speak for them.
03ea4c No.15491819
>>15490574
Nope, they're communists. They're the most perfect liberals to ever exist.
>>15491795
What?
d12ef5 No.15491824
>game with highest replayabilty bar none
>100% free
How can AAA trash compete?
4012f7 No.15491871
>>15490610
what if we all died in 2007 and this is just some kind of hell we're in? I don't recall sinning so greatly though
522db6 No.15491876
>>15487545
Witnessing the mental gymnastics of the left is what changed me. No one's feelings should interfere with objective truth.
f01329 No.15491908
>>15491795
No, I'm sorry. Conservative vs. liberal politics in America fall better under the category of celebrity gossip than actual political debate. They are two bastardized, neutered political factions created to distract. There is no such thing as a "liberal" outside the American hype machine. Nations you describe as "conservative" because they restrict their citizens' rights, everyone else refers to them as "authoritarian" because "liberal" and "conservative" have nothing to do with social or civil rights. They are economic philosophies.
7ed25b No.15491920
>>15487545
Trauma, something has to shake you out of it.
77b93e No.15491987
>>15487545
>If only I could figure out what it was that made me change
It was probably whatever made you a liberal in the first place.
You were probably thinking conservatism was the "disease" then.
0c06ad No.15492030
>>15491824
>nonsensical grinding
>lewd doesn't even exist anymore because of fucking retarded moon kid plot tat made all the artists fucking quit because of allegations of "retroactive pedo" bullshit
there is no possible way warframe is any good as the whole game is to just to get to a maxed level end game frame so that the game is "balanced" and then do the same three fucking missions over and over again. Following the open world meme is just further proof of it being trash.
d12ef5 No.15492035
>>15492030
Gameplay is fun.
Content is planty.
If you want to jerk off just watch porn or something.
Also
>warcucks
>relevent
0c06ad No.15492046
>>15492035
>If you want to jerk off just watch porn or something.
YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER, THERE IS NO MORE PORN YOU FUCKING RETARD
99% of the artists QUIT doing warframe porn, or did you not fucking read the two points I made in my last post?
d12ef5 No.15492062
>>15492046
>faggots stopped making degenerate gay porn
Should I even care? I mean it's good so, thanks for heads up? I guess?
03ea4c No.15492066
>>15492046
You seem ass blasted by something that you've invented out of thin air.
>>15491824
So what is this game? What's the genre? I keep seeing it and there's that one song in it that I think is decent.
d12ef5 No.15492082
>>15492066
Short version is it's an action RPG.
You have firearms, you have melee weapons, exotic and standard, you have super powers from generic like teleporting and invisibilty and up to overly complex shit I don't think I can properly explain.
But it has A LOT of weapons, movesets and magic powers. Like a huge fucking amount.
If you like shooters you should try it.
If you like melee action games you should try it.
If you like super hero games you should try it.
If you like parkour games you should try it.
If you like space fantasy you should try it.
If you're salty warcuck that got banned for cheating, you shouldn't try it.
d747a2 No.15492083
A lot of mainstream games are expensive as fuck even when making a single path. Multiplayer games are easier to make multiple paths out of simply because one player’s experience could be completely different than another just because of how players interact with one another.
dc0a64 No.15492111
>>15487394
Like the fact that he never said it :^)
d12ef5 No.15492116
>>15492082
Oh and yes in-story you actually play as a super powered space teenager that controls one of those space ninjas with different magic powers.
Some people got triggered over it for some reason even though 90% of the time you control the ninja and 10% the teenager.
0c06ad No.15492137
>>15492062
>it's good
you don't belong here.
>>15492066
so you're supposed to be part of a clan of space ninjas and assassinate people while having these biomechanical bodies and cool super powers while stopping total shitface assholes from destroying everything.
A RANDOM MOONCHILD PLOT APPEARS
>Lol, you thought you were all smart and cool?
>lol no you're just a robot controlled by an ugly as shit kid who lives forever inside of some moon
>nevermind those tons of plotlines that has to do with frames suffering and dying lol they are just robots who don't have any brains
>oh and the grineer are just trying to not die and the frames and their retard leader keep killing them, meaning the grineer are justified in their goal of blitzing the frames
>but lol open world because you fall for that trash every time!
>buy another copy of skyrim, goy
f01329 No.15492143
>>15492082
I'm none of those things so I'm not sure if I should try it or not. But I'm leaning towards no.
0c06ad No.15492148
d12ef5 No.15492154
>>15492143
>I'm none of those things
Just what kinds of video games do you like then?
Turn-based? Warframe is fast paced real time combat game, so if you only like turn-based games then yes, you shouldn't play it. That's perfectly fine.
0c06ad No.15492263
>>15487508
>>15487639
"Replayability" became a bad keyword for companies, because it meant that if a game was "replayable", the goy were less likely to buy a new game. So to cater to the ADHD crowd and the people who want to get 100% in a single run, all AAA games are just bigass stories that go down a railroad, have no unlockable content and tote "sidequests" as a big thing which is little more than irritating fluff.
051d80 No.15492357
>>15486858
Steam showed devs that 80% of people who buy games don't even finish them. I'm all for "the truth shall set you free" but goddamn, that was one truth devs and publishers could not handle properly.
48bfac No.15492388
Is the skill tree a good or bad example of replayability? Does saying, "being a wizard was fun but now I want to bash skulls as a knight," constitute good replayability?
5437c4 No.15492501
>shitty game but with branching choices or pathes that require me to play through the same common areas for most of the game in the same way
Shit example of forced "replayability"
>A good game that is still fun to replay years later
Good replayability
>A good game that is still fun to replay years later with enough depth in it's mechanics that my experience can feel quite different as I am now better at games and can use more of the mechanics properly
The best kind of replayability. You don't need different pathes for decent replayability, just good gameplay that's fun to go through again.
f01329 No.15493003
>>15492154
I'm fine with real time games as long as they require some thought. Shooters, melee action, super hero, parkour: none of these genres fall under the category of "games that require thought." Space fantasy is ok, I guess. But that's more of a setting than a type of game.
3d9e30 No.15493444
>>15491871
I think you might be right. It'd certainly explain him making good on this threat.
f01329 No.15493473
>>15491871
>I don't recall sinning so greatly though
Life isn't about getting what you deserve, so why should the afterlife be? Take the shit you've been dealt in stride for, surely, even Lady Fortuna's wheel spins in Hell.
614c1d No.15493860
>>15490183
Okay. They just coerced a retarded man into showing them his dick, and sticking things up his ass.
7d61cf No.15493894
>>15492137
>A RANDOM MOONCHILD PLOT APPEARS
Not to mention the devs are retards that went full "muh cinematic story" so they have to cram in horrible parts where you have to play the faggot moonchild instead of the blender of death you spend so much time gearing up and modding to perfection. Wish they would just admit their mistakes and remove archwing and childmode instead of doubling down.
142f90 No.15494120
>>15493473
>surely, even Lady Fortuna's wheel spins in Hell.
This is some of the best motivation I've seen on this site.
08b285 No.15500969
>>15488198
This right here >>15488213
There was a disconnect before because the normalfag brain couldn't relate to early CG and wonky real-time animation, but now that games are just like their TV shows and movies but "interactive", they're eating that shit up no matter what.
A few normalfags hate it though, because they actually want to play something and not just see games imitating the cinematic medium.
>>15489136
Man, I wish they tried nowadays to sell me on replayability instead of just telling me to shut up and buy their trash. At least back then there was some good standard they had to recognize in hopes of convincing people.
9d0b61 No.15502261
>>15486858
Because if they are just playing one game over and over, you won't be able to sell the consumers a new one.
b370b4 No.15502325
>>15486882
dont forget releasing unfinished games and streamer bait
2c92e1 No.15510589
>>15487545
>(1)
nice try, faggot.