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bef498  No.15486618

Is TDM worth playing? How does it compare to the main games?

d8af23  No.15486838

It is, there's a decent amount of missions that aren't terrible. There's some differences in terms of more guard variety in TDM and the fact that the two engines are different, but overall it tries to stay faithful to the first few games.


58d07b  No.15486862

>>15486618

It's at least worth trying out the tutorial and recommended missions. It's a very impressive piece of work for what started out as a mod for DOOM 3


e9b9f7  No.15487155

>>15486618

>Is TDM worth playing?

It's less a question of worth playing and more a question of how much do you want to risk a bug that might permanently lock you out of your OS? Don't get any enhanced textures just bugfixes, the new textures clashes together.


d8af23  No.15487196

>>15487155

OP is talking about the mod for doom 3, not the HD packs for the first thief games. Unless you mean TDM has a bug like that.


bef498  No.15487345

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>>15487155

>It's less a question of worth playing and more a question of how much do you want to risk a bug that might permanently lock you out of your OS?

TDM can lock you out of your OS?


c613be  No.15487631

>>15487155

The default textures already looked pretty fucking bad.


c613be  No.15487723

>>15487345

I never heard of that. Personally I couldn't play the Dark Mod too much for 2 reasons: It has jarring textures coupled with bump maps (which I always thought looked awful), and It feels clunky as fuck. I don't really play any newer games for the same reasons so you might have a higher tolerance to this shit than I do.


7e462b  No.15487872

>>15487723

I don't play it because it doesn't have a gamma+ and gamma- keybind option. That shit is essential in T1/2 for me.


ab755c  No.15487887

I applaud their efforts and it can be really good, but there's telepathic guards so it's can be very frustrating to play. If you're in full light the enemies can see you even if you're standing straight behind them. Sneaking still works mostly, but apparently you reflect light very loudly.

I would recommend you try it, but last I tried it it was also quite unstable.

Only map I can remember the name of (which also happens to be good) in addition to the one level that comes with the game (Chapel of St Lucia or something) is Knighton Manor.


c613be  No.15487940

>>15487872

Why don't you just hack it in since you're cheating anyways?


e664d0  No.15487992

>>15487155

>bug that might permanently lock you out of your OS

What? Unless you downloaded some type of ransomware along the way or are just legitimately retarded I really doubt what you are claiming.


7e462b  No.15488092

>>15487940

>Cheating

As opposed to opening the menu every time and changing the gamma option from there? The keybinds were put in T1 and T2 by Looking Glass not by mistake.


c613be  No.15488145

File: 412d9b04d6962cc⋯.jpg (137.56 KB, 404x428, 101:107, 412d9b04d6962ccc34b1422e1e….jpg)

>>15488092

Yes. Light was never an intended gameplay element in FUCKING THIEF. Those 25 GP flares in Thief 2 that could relight lamps where not intended to be bought or used at all. They where never intended to give temporary illumination at the price of risking detection.

The devs clearly intended for you to abuse the gamma settings to give yourself magical night vision powers.


e9b9f7  No.15488158

>>15487196

>>15487345

No Thief gold has a bug like that, it's rare but it's not fun. It's not like Wizardry 8 though where the game itself can replace your OS on boot up.


c613be  No.15488170

>>15488158

The infamous bug nobody has heard of.


7e462b  No.15488197

>>15488145

There are no flares in T1 and in TDM what light sources you are given is up to the FM creator. The options were coded in deliberately, Looking Glass did not deliberately add in gamma keybinds by mistake. In fanmissions in general light levels are not always applied correctly or consistently. Maybe on your trashy LCD screen where you can see everything in wonderful shades of grey it isn't a problem, but for non retarded people on CRT's and OLED's it's nice not to blind yourself via eyestrain by using the gamma shortcuts that Looking Glass very deliberately thought were necessary.

I need you to run this over your smooth, smooth brain several times.

>Looking glass deliberately added keyboard shortcuts for gamma, something which no other game does.

>Looking glass deliberately added keyboard shortcuts for gamma, something which no other game does.

>Looking glass deliberately added keyboard shortcuts for gamma, something which no other game does.

I await your bitter and pedantic reply with no interest.


e9b9f7  No.15488211

>>15488170

I never said it was infamous, I quite clearly remember compatibility bugs and one of them would lock your PC and if you got a power outtage you'd be kinda screwed. Since those types of bugs happen to me a lot because I live in a stormy area with shitty powerlines that's the kind of thing I have to look out for.


c613be  No.15488298

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>>15488197

>The devs clearly wanted me to abuse the gamma in T1 because they intentionally did not add the flare yet

>The devs clearly wanted me to be able to see everything always because of how limited the flare in T2 was

>Gamma was clearly added for night vision because NO OTHER GAME has this option available

>It is completely 100% impossible that the devs added this for debugging purposes, map making, or just an after thought since their game depended so heavily on darkness

>The only logical conclusion is that the devs intentionally added this in so I could abuse it to see in the dark like I'm Sam Fisher, with absolutely no explanation at all (unlike Garrets telescope eye in T2), when they easily could have just put a stylized night vision goggles into the game

>It wouldn't be cheating if I abuse the gamma in TDM because you might not get the lamp

>It is completely 100% impossible that you play Thief on a CRT monitor, so you it is 100% completely impossible that you see the game how the LGS intended the game to look and it is completely 100% not possible at all that you notice how heavily darkness effects the gameplay, which by the way is unintentional in a game about darkness

>It is 100% completely impossible that I am insecure about my cheating. I really don't care that you're laughing at me

I knew you where a fucking retard when you said a shortcut to something in the fucking options menu was an intended gameplay element but god damn.


ab755c  No.15488308

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>>15488145

>Those 25 GP flares in Thief 2 that could relight lamps

hot beans!


798559  No.15490161

No matter how you spin it changing gamma always amounts to cheating


f4834f  No.15490168

>>15490161

playing the game on anything but a CRT is pretty much cheating.


c613be  No.15490185

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>>15490168

This. CRT is a massive game changer, because it makes enemies blend into the darkness.

Suddenly Garrets stealth abilities make sense, and darkness is a more potent gameplay element. If there are any retards who say CRT is just a meme simply point to Thief.


798559  No.15490186

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>>15490168

>muh CRT


c613be  No.15490206

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f4834f  No.15490225

File: e4539c0b6ed3cc6⋯.jpg (504.82 KB, 2000x2033, 2000:2033, LCD black levels.jpg)

>>15490186

>what will improve my game about being in the pitch black darkness

>oh massive light bleed, perfect


305572  No.15490236

>>15490225

Why buy a shitty LCD? That's as bad as buying a CRT tbh.


f4834f  No.15490241

>>15490236

because a good LCD costs 40,000 dollars, anything else isn't good


305572  No.15490254

>>15490241

A high quality LCD is about 1500 dollars.


c613be  No.15490274

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>>15490254

I hear good things about OLED, but even then I'd have to see it. Even before I used CRT I always wondered why older 3d games had such ugly grey lighting. Until I decided to test out a CRT and noticed just how much better it looks in all games, but ESPECIALLY for Thief. I never had situations where guards blended into the environment until I played on a CRT, because the darkness works as intended. Another reason CRT beats out LCD for older games is simply its pixel shape. Jagged edges of polygons aren't nearly as obvious and it changes how the picture is rendered.

You could pick up a CRT for free and test it out yourself, otherwise you're just being a envious bitter faggot.


305572  No.15490286

>>15490274

>You could pick up a CRT for free and test it out yourself

Why would I? I've owned CRTs in the past, from the bad old days before LCDs were around (and before they became good). I use a PG279Q now so no real reason to downgrade back to CRT.

>until I played on a CRT

This means you're an underaged faggot. If you weren't, a CRT would have been the first thing you played on.


f4834f  No.15490329

>>15490286

>This means you're an underaged faggot. If you weren't, a CRT would have been the first thing you played on.

you aren't very smart based on this alone


e9b9f7  No.15490342

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>>15490286

>downgrade

Are you fucking blind old 3D games look like dog shit on a flat screen most of the time, if CRTs weren't so heavy and awkward to work with I'd get myself another one. Weight and being easy to carry around is about the only real positive things to say about it. Plus that annoying whine if your ears are sensitive to higher pitches when the CRT is on.


f4834f  No.15490346

>>15490342

>Plus that annoying whine if your ears are sensitive to higher pitches when the CRT is on.

that's only 15khz ones which aren't PC crts. if they're making other noises it's vibration


bc5b4c  No.15490351

>>15490274

OLED displays will never become mainstream because they have shit durability. Except on smartphones because people replace them every couple of years anyway.


60fffb  No.15490361

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Yes. I am a TDM eggspert and here are my recommended missions.

Crucible of Omens: Behind Closed Doors

William Steele series

Penny Dreadful series

Thomas Porter series

Ulysses series

The Accountant series

Volta 1 and 2

Briarwood Manor

Down by the Riverside

Shadows of Northdale haven't actually played this one yet, but the author of it is just too good, vid related is the intro that he made


e9b9f7  No.15490375

>>15490346

I grew up with TV CRTs so that's my only experience, those old TVs make a whine which is very distinct. Another thing is that they all have a natural bloom like effect on every border with color and black, especially pronounced when it's dark and the TV is the only light source.


f4834f  No.15490386

>>15490375

always had bad ears and never heard 15khz whine in my life, let alone now that I'm older.




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