5770dc No.15478352
I know I am late but
>Just recently start playing the old Tomb raider games
>They are actually pretty fun with nice platforming and puzzles
>Decide to look into the reboot
>No "Annoying" platforming or "annoying" puzzles (from IGN review) anymore
>It's just a generic 3rd person shooter
>Worst of all can't even fap to R34 of old Lara because the shitty reboot Lara has the same name
What's even the fucking point?
07d565 No.15478654
>>15478352
>What's even the fucking point?
Feminism, duh. It's not about making good games, it's about making political statements and activism that makes cunts feel good about them.
74bce4 No.15478667
>It's just a generic 3rd person shooter
Somewhat related.
a8f858 No.15478752
>>15478352
You should try the first reboot, Legends, Anniversary and Underworld.
1ca83e No.15478848
>>15478352
Devs just got really lazy. If you're the type of person who can design puzzles, you have to be pretty intelligent. It's hard work too. Valve was kind enough to include developer commentary on their Portal games and they play audio from the devs while you play the stages and a whole lot of work goes into designing these large puzzles, not just from a puzzle standpoint but they also want to make sure these things look nice and they won't make dunderheads feel too stupid. It's a whole science involved.
So in modern day TR games, they just can't be fucked. There's a lot of female devs and male feminists and they just can't do what an all male dev team can do. They're not genetically equipped to be able to.
13def2 No.15478857
Puzzles and platforming challenges aren't instant gratification enough for the plebe.
79a043 No.15478903
>>15478848
That statement makes Croteam seem like geniuses or Valve devs dumb since Talos Principle is not only much richer in puzzles and puzzle mechanics, good difficulty progression and design than Portal, but it also apparently didn't take them that much effort to design them since many of the puzzles were just Serious Sam rejected ideas and they're so much more numerous.
851130 No.15478911
>>15478848
>Devs just got really lazy.
Has nothing to do with it. The industry leader have systematically destroyed and transformed interactive media into a revenue source. The product doesn't matter anymore, as long as the look of it can be sold to the masses, while any form of shortcomings are getting buried under marketing lies.
213d5b No.15478954
The reboot brings to mind the kind of person whom I like to call failed movie director, the same type of fuck who decides cutscenes and story are really important and the player has to sit his ass down and sit through minutes or hours of pace breaking, boring as shit drivel about whatever said fuck wants to "direct", but was probably turned down by hollywood for sucking massive dick even by hollywood standards not having any relatives or friends in the industry.
How else would you explain a game that takes nearly 2 hours to actually start and when it does it's complete ass and is barely a fraction in terms of quality to the original whose name it adapts, games made decades ago.
>>15478903
Talos was pretty nice
1ca83e No.15478970
>>15478903
I liked TTP but none of the puzzles were particularly challenging. There was only ONE puzzle that genuinely made me scratch my head and I remember the name of it to this day (Bichromatic Entanglement) because it took me so long to figure out.
The rest of the game's puzzles though didn't seem to want players to have to think too much and were very straight-forward.
79a043 No.15478983
>>15478970
The star puzzles and late area DLC puzzles were genuinely challenging, and the normal puzzles were harder than Portal's.
213d5b No.15479007
>>15478970
Do the star puzzles or go for the DLCs, I forget the name.
The DLC is excellent and I liked the story more than the vanilla one.
69c30e No.15479045
>>15478954
>The reboot brings to mind the kind of person whom I like to call failed movie director
Not like actual film directors are any better considering all Hollywood seems able to shit out are pozzed reboots of popular franchise and increasingly hollow comic book adaptations.
>who decides cutscenes and story are really important
Well, they are, depending on what game you're trying to make. However, that's no excuse to rip out the gameplay, a developer should be more than capable to weave a narrative into the gameplay proper, but since most developers are leftists one can't expect them to reach the lofty heights of an actual human being.
>not having any relatives or friends in the industry.
You can just say he's not Jewish.
>and is barely a fraction in terms of quality to the original whose name it adapts
It's not even the fact that it doesn't play like the old Tomb Raider games, but that it feels completely and utterly soulless. It's just Uncharted without everything that make the first two Uncharted games charming (if shallow). What's worse, they rebooted the franchise a second time because Lara was "problematic", yet ended up with a whiny, incompetent cunt that has no wish to even go into fucking tombs, on top of massive dissonance between how she acts in cutscenes and how she's a killing machine during normal gameplay.
Also, the death animations are creepy as fuck and it's clear that someone, or many, on the dev team are hardcore guro fans.
d5ca96 No.15479116
TR1 still has really strong atmosphere, the remake was shit.
8fb3ee No.15479179
>>15479045
Any games that have good cutscenes and gameplay? I feel like too often they're mutually exclusive. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is the original R&C games. The characters were so whacky you were pretty much guaranteed a laugh every time.
69c30e No.15479228
>>15479179
I think Ace Combat games always had a good grasp of how to approach the cinematic "experience" without compromising gameplay. It also helps that all three PS2 games handle the storytelling differently. In 4 the cutscenes tell the story of your antagonist, in 5 it's a traditional, linear narrative while 0 uses the documentary approach, where the various aces that survive the encounter with the player tell the journalist about you (and the cutscenes change depending on what you did).
Legacy of Kain don't have the best gameplay, but cutscenes are obviously treated by the devs as rewards to the player considering how well paced, voiced and written they are. They probably feature some of the best written and voiced dialogue in gaming.
I guess Half Life 1 and 2 should also be mentioned for never breaking PoV and making the cutscenes interactive. And yes, I'm fully aware it's a slog to sit through them on repeated playthroughs, but the first time you experience them and get to poke around while events unfold it's pretty neat, and almost no other game lets you do this.
I guess Max Payne 1 and 2 also count, if only because the gameplay is pretty good and the comicbook feel of the cutscenes makes them very unique.
2be7a7 No.15479243
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15478903
What I liked about The Talos Principle was how you could cheat. I beat many of the puzzles the wrong way (not the "wrong" way as intended, but actually balancing myself on some weird path that took several attempts to jump to and moving just right)
I also liked the "wrong" solutions that were intended. And the easter eggs. But other than that the game is a long fedora post.
Here's a great play through of the tower climb by Markus Persson.
1af9b4 No.15480181
>>15478667
Come to think of it the only third-person shooter that is not complete shit that I know of is warframe, and mostly because it's a slasher at this point.
d01a55 No.15480203
>>15478352
It is what happens when devs know they cannot make good games like Tomb Raider so compensate by making "narrative" focused crap and saying it is because times are different. Also gotta love the irony that nu-Lara Croft is more of a failure as an "empowered" woman then the old one ever was.
175e8c No.15480499
>>15478752
I'm playing Underworld right now and it's tits
although I have to admit that I was playing Anniversary earlier and I got stuck a few times
3e72b9 No.15480514
>>15478352
>Worst of all can't even fap to R34 of old Lara because the shitty reboot Lara has the same name
>letting the reboot getting in the way of your faps
what a fucking pleb.
2c466f No.15480605
>>15480514
I think he means the various porn sites will be front loaded with new lara material
66c4e7 No.15480845
>>15478352
>No "Annoying" platforming
did we play the same games? i recall the platforming being horrendous in the ps1 game i played
320ecb No.15480956
>>15480845
>ps1
Found the problem
b082da No.15481078
>>15478352
I pick back up on my TR II playthrough in your honor anon.
And also probably uninstall Shadow in an hour or less once it's cracked
566378 No.15481816
The only thing I don't like about the new raider games is the fact that they removed a lot of the player agency. Hold up to jump, hold left to watch lara do amazing feats of wall climbing and so and so. The old games didn't play themselves and I loved that about them. Aside from that, I prefer fapping to the new one. She looks like a person and seeing her get fucked by a horse is kinda hot. Doesn't she also have a vid of her eating out Clementine?
e4d7b9 No.15482037
>>15481078
>uninstall Shadow in an hour
To this day I couldn't stomach finishing Rise of the Tomb Raider. One thing that it turned my PC into an oven, but it was also just a plain 3D platformer that also happened to be an arcade shooter…
>>15481816
>her get fucked by a horse is kinda hot
I know you're serious, but thanks for the chuckle.
a48a65 No.15482063
I just want this to be clear
LARA WAS FUCKING HOT.
I MEAN SMOKIN.
DID YOU SEE THE SIZE OF HER HOOTERS?
WEW
458bec No.15482753
>>15482707
I think I understand muscle fetishists a bit more now.
91df28 No.15482846
>>15482753
Yeah, a lot of people equate the terms muscle girl or even fit girl with women who have huge muscles they can only get through massive amounts of steroids. The truth is that most of the time you hear a guy say he likes women with muscles, he's talking about women like the second pic in that post or like Real XXIII's brown girls.
b082da No.15484042
>>15482037
Playing it made me feel like I had gone into an alternate reality. I was playing an imitation of Uncharted, which is a dumbed downed for the casual tardgamer Tomb Raider, except I was playing a game called Tomb Raider.
4d76d5 No.15484046
Just let it be known that Angelina is an ugly horse faced cunt and anyone who thought of her as sexy is disgusting let alone thinking that she was the ideal character for this series.
922e0f No.15484168
>>15484046
At least the Angelina Jolie movies got what the franchise was supposed to be about: Fun, slightly ridiculous Indy Jones dungeons.
The recent games AND the new movie forgot all the fun stuff.
1ca83e No.15484180
>>15484046
The series existed LONG before she was ever cast in the film.
224797 No.15484215
>>15479036
This is the real Lara Croft.
2c576f No.15484854
>>15478352
>Decide to look into the reboot
It's funny how many people don't know that the recent titles are actually the second Tomb Raider reboot.
2c466f No.15484924
>>15484854
>the recent titles are actually the second Tomb Raider reboot.
isn't this the third time she's BECOMING THE LEGENDARY TOMB RAIDER EPIC ORIGIN STORY?
5f990a No.15484993
>>15479045
>Also, the death animations are creepy as fuck and it's clear that someone, or many, on the dev team are hardcore guro fans.
Saw some Anons over on Gurochan even stating that the death scenes are weak and soulless, and that you might as well watch them on YouTube rather than waste your time playing the damn thing.
How much of a failure do you have to be to where even the most "degenerate" of fetish consumers calls your product low-effort trash?
>>15484924
Yes, the third game is about how she's "Now becoming the TOMB RAIDER…again". Also, apparently Shadow of My Former Self is another game in the long line of recent games where the villain did nothing wrong because Lara screwed everything up and caused EXACTLY what the guy was trying to prevent. Here's a summary of the game's plot provided by OAG:
>Dr. Pedro Dominguez grew up in a secret, ancient village known as Paititi. It was cut off from the rest of the world. There were prophecies that the village would one day be destroyed. After venturing around the world as he got older, Dominguez worried that one day colonizers, natural disasters, or invaders would destroy Paititi, so he felt compelled to fulfill another prophecy about reshaping the world to protect Paititi and his people from the outside world. In order to do so it requires a special box and a mythical dagger. Lara Croft attempts to stop Dominguez because she doesn’t want to him to reshape the world, and she works with two tribal queens to take down his men, kill Dominguez and complete the ritual herself. The game ends with Lara enjoying life back at her mansion after causing massive destruction and death to Paititi.
8db51c No.15485161
>>15484993
>Loli Croft
Never enough of this in existence.
458bec No.15485381
>>15482707
>3rd
What was her name again? Was she a mocap actress or a voice actress?
0b4758 No.15485402
>>15478352
The first series ending with Chronicles was a good start and end, and because the team was tired of Lara and were getting burnt out, just a shame that the team died and went their way to make shit like Rogue Warrior. Now Legends, Anniversary and Underworld was a good revive, but fucking god, fucking Leafs and Rhianna Pratchett butchered her, she fucking whines and cries in all three games, little to no character development, a fucking whiny teenager.
822bca No.15485516
Here's how to play the PC versions of 1, 2, and 3. This is my personal readme file and method.
Tomb Raider 1
Install GOG release. (v1.0)
Run "TR_Multi-Patcher_v1.1" (not needed if using GOG v2.0)
Run "Tomb Raider Automated Fix 1.1.exe" to remove depedency on DOSBox
Tomb Raider 2
Install CD release.
Run "trupdate.exe".
Run the game once, then exit. (This seems to keep the sound intact after using Peixoto)
Install "Remastered_TR2_FMVs".
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Create a shortcut for ease of use.
Tomb Raider 2 Gold
Install CD release.
Run "tr2goldsetup.exe".
Run the game once, then exit. (This seems to keep the sound intact after using Peixoto)
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Create a shortcut for ease of use.
Tomb Raider 3
Install CD release.
Run "trupdate.exe".
Run the game once, then exit. (This seems to keep the sound intact after using Peixoto)
Install "Tomb_Raider_3_fmvs_by_Ronnie".
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Create a shortcut for ease of use.
Tomb Raider 3 Gold
Install CD release.
Run "trupdate.exe".
Make a copy of the installation directory.
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Sound will not work. Exit game.
Replace directory with the copied directory.
Run game, select highest available 4:3 resolution.
The game does not seem to work at all with Peixoto, but it's required to get access to higher resolutions.
Links
TR_Multi-Patcher_v1.1.exe
http://bhemuhelp.co.nf/other/tomb.html
TombRaider-AutomatedFix-release
https://github.com/Carlmundo/TombRaider-AutomatedFix/releases/tag/release
TOMB RAIDER II MULTIPATCH (trupdate.exe) (Applies to 2, 3, 4)
http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr2/fixes.html
Remastered_TR2_FMVs
http://www.core-desplease use archive.ism/community_remasteredtr2fmvs.html
tr2goldsetup
http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/vista/tr2g_demo.html
Tomb_Raider_3_fmvs_by_Ronnie
http://www.core-desplease use archive.ism/community_remasteredtr3fmvs.html
Peixoto
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=53121
822bca No.15485529
7e9c8b No.15485536
original Tomb Raider was fine for its time for 3-4 first entries
then it got real annoying and clunky real fast as games became better
Legend and Anniversary are newer Tomb Raiders and even those are hard to control
imagine actually trying to make a single fucking jump be fucking geometrically right so you could do this one tricks, its borderline autistic design
8c7464 No.15486779
>>15484046
Vidrelated is perfect girl to play classic Lara.
8cbdf0 No.15486886
>>15478352
Play TR Anniversary, Legend and Underworld if you want something modern but not shit. The Croft manor is particularly comfy in Anniversary and Legend.
8914d9 No.15486891
>>15478752
Only play Anniversary, Legend starts out fun but shits its bed in the last half and Underworld is just straight out terrible.
e389e7 No.15486927
>>15484046
I feel the same way about Scarlett Johansen now too. What the fuck is wrong with everybody why do people fine these women attractive?
458bec No.15486975
>>15486779
Which one?
Is this porn?
ea9c99 No.15487009
>>15486927
ScarJo not only already shat out a kid, she's like 40 years old or something. Definitely not top shelf pussy anymore.
8cbdf0 No.15487016
>>15487009
She's a womanlet too.
e389e7 No.15487021
>>15487009
She NEVER looked good though. Go look at pictures of her when she was still young and in her 20's. You can't hide the jewnose and the huge lips.
The fuck is with women and huge lips anyways, Angelina Jolee had those massive puffed up niggerlips too.
767510 No.15487084
>>15486975
No
Indiana Jones comes in and interrupts them shortly after that webm ends
I'm not even joking
1b6481 No.15487098
>>15487021
>huge lips
They seem to indicate severe mental illness
458bec No.15487726
817578 No.15487765
>>15487021
>Dick sucking lips
Maybe everyone had a fetish for bimbos and didn't want to admit it.
817578 No.15488255
>>15487869
Thumbnail reminds me of this chick.
3c93fb No.15488342
>>15478352
>>15478667
Nah. There used to be considerably better third person shooters that did no involve cover shooting.
>max payne
>hitman
>blood rayne
And similar did not involve cover shooting at all.
There are just too few of them nowadays.it's usually shit like the gears of war/mass effect cover system where you hug chest high cover all the time.
I'd prefer a good third person game to another first person snorefest with linear corridors.
2c466f No.15488371
>>15488342
3rd person shooter isn't an inherently terrible genre, it just matters how it's used. to warrant being third person you need part of the game to depend on keeping track on your entire character model, so adding an aspect of movement with say, jumping around on platforms while shooting would translate over better into third person better than first person but Rich is right how it's just a slapped in choice of big developers, it's probably considered either easier to make, or more cinematic to make a third person game include aspects like walkie talkies
c84e0d No.15489140
>All sfm made with nuLara
>Not with TombRaider Legend/Anniversary/Underworld Lara
WHY???
c2afc8 No.15489236
>>15484993
The reboot games are only entertaining because nuLara is portrayed as a bloodthirsty maniac who is A-OK with mass murdering everyone between her and whatever local shit she's trying to accidentally destroy. She never once has any personal conflict regarding killing hundreds of people, and shows more remorse for killing a fucking panther than she does for stabbing a man multiple times in the chest because his broken leg kept him from crawling away. It's great.
be48f2 No.15495064
>>15489140
SFM has become absolute shit the past couple years. Theres maybe two decent animators left even bothering with it and they release shit once every 6 months.
8851d6 No.15495788
>>15484215
I jerked off while playing that game so many times.
d15a79 No.15495828
>>15482753
I don't think it's fair to call liking physically fit women a fetish.
>>15482846
This. I don't want a male bodybuilder with a woman's head, I want a woman in prime physical form. Fit women are still pretty and feminine unless they use unnatural means. But deep down, I know I'll never deserve one until I've attained the male equivalent.
0bf2d9 No.15495854
>>15489171
Excuse me, general.
a7b49a No.15495924
>>15478352
Just play Dagger of Xian. It looks nice.
133e2b No.15496633
>>15480845
> i recall the platforming being horrendous in the ps1 game i played
The platforming was great in TR1, but it was very slow and deliberate, but gave you a lot of precision and, once you understood how the game was designed to be played, you could fly through the levels. Calling it a 3D Platformer would put it in the same vein as Mario 64, which it isn't, it's more like a Prince of Persia (the original game which had similarly slow and deliberate platforming) game stretched into a third dimension.
>>15482063
A++ WOULD AGREE 100% AGAIN
>>15484215
>This is the real Lara Croft.
Not quite. The real Lara is even less believable than this one. TR1-5 Lara or nothing!
Fucking nice modeling and animation though
>>15486779
>Vidrelated is perfect girl to play classic Lara.
I think you mean Hayley Atwell
8d61ca No.15497231
>>15489236
This is the reason why I love classic Lara so much, despite being an over the top 90s action babe she actually ages as a character.
She learned how dangerous the world of adventuring can be by getting fucked over by Werner von Croy and her other adventures that happened before the first Game, hence why she has later no problems shooting in self defense and why she became more merciless after Chronicles.
Meanwhile Nulara just got bad touched by an evil guy once and automatically turned into the fucking Predator ripping peoples spines out.
4f3d67 No.15497241
>>15478667
I miss Pre-Rec, AIDSMoby was annoying but Rich made it worthwhile.
94546a No.15505379
>>15497108
her ass and breasts get smaller every game. Thank god even normalfags are lukewarm to this final entry
39830b No.15505384
>>15505379
I heard her breasts got larger this time around.
94546a No.15505759
>>15505384
look smaller to me, hopefully someone provides comparisons though to double check.