/v/ - Video Games

The only reason to even get a Switch is for Breath of the Wild 2.

>>15468540

or mhgu, if you dont have pirated 3ds that is

>>15468542

I just play it on an emulator with upscaled textures, looks better than the switch version.

>>15468546

how's online, could i play it with friend?

>>15468527

Normalfags will pay for it, so Nintendo will get away with it learning nothing.

Is it fortnite itself that's bad, or is it just the retards that have latched onto it that are the problem. There are plenty of games/shows that are fine on their own, but the 'community' is trash.

>>15468560

>game is played by millions of normalfags lacking vidya culture

well what do you think?

>>15468540

>>>/cuckchan/

>bundling a FREE multiplatform game, an irredeemably shitty game at that, with your console

>throw a ticket worth $10 in lootboxes with it just so your drones are able to justify the $120 price bump from a retail switch with no games or a used switch with 3-4 games

Soytendo finally surpassed the talladega nights PS3 bundle.

so, why is the online so bad?

>>15468527

>Nintendo is trying to damage control

>by releasing a bundle to sell more consoles

>by relasing a bundle with a game that is massively popular and justifies (for normalfags) the paid online

Come on, man. That's not damage control, that's just companies doing what they are supposed to do: money.

You can dislike the game and even the console but this is a very simple and powerfull move by Nintendo.

If they get it working, it's Fornite on an handheld console that normalfags can take everywhere, and due to the casual nature of the game, play everywhere, shilling their console for everyone else.

It will also bring in quite a lot of subscribers for the paid online, giving it weight as a good decision for them as well.

>>15468527

>Bundling to save face

Yeah popular games have never been bundled with consoles before, this is a truly unprecedented event that could only be because they're being raked over the coals.

>>15468739

Its only ok when Sony charges for online

>>15468756

I mean, I'm mad Nintendo is charging for it, but is that the only reason? I haven't looked into it, it was a genuine question.

What's wrong with the online? I genuinely don't know I haven't been following it and this is the first thread I see on it. Did it kill Spla2n?

>>15468758

>>15468760

Its the same shitty money grabbing service the others provide, charging for P2P.

>>15468760

>Did it kill Spla2n?

yes, it did. Also, Nintendo was the only company to do free online when the trend started. Now only PC gamers have free online.

>>15468739

Because it offers so little that it may as well be free. It also screws up a ton of stuff like the phone app and potentially cloud saves and the NES/SNES thing. It's just a bad service that's used to make a quick buck. I can see this improving in the future, but right now it's shit.

>>15468775

I agree with you, there's also the issue of the retro content. Like no one cares for NES games, and SNES games aren't even as multiplayer focused as the N64 and GCN. Hell they didn't even add support for consoles like the Gameboy, Color, Advance and DS. Hell I think they can even do 2DS emulation, but they still wanna sell 3DS hardware.

>>15468709

>talladega nights PS3 bundle

wew, I forgot about that disaster

>>15468739

They remove your saves if you don't renew also can't the nes titles have drm and more importantly it's paid. I already paid for game no need to pay for online.

>>15468770

So nobody wants to buy their bullshit? Surprising because Nintendo fans usually fall in line. Sonyggers gladly took it in the ass. Either way I don't know why Nintendo thought this was a good idea, server costs can't be that expensive this is just Nintendo being jewish.

>>15468772

How can one really tell?

>>15468775

That's incredibly shitty.

>>15468796

With this new generation of retards who willing throw money around like a bunch of blithering idiots, you bet your yarmulke they will.

>bundling an f2p game will solve our paid online fiasco

topkek

>>15468809

>Either way I don't know why Nintendo thought this was a good idea

As you said people gladly bent over and spread their ass for Sony and MS. Hell people actually cheered when Sony announced it.

>>15468816

Normal fags like this game. It has nothing to do with online fiasco.

>>15468778

>the phone app

Reminder that they are a japanese company. It makes perfect sense to use a phone for communication instead of strapping phones to the console. It's their main demographic after all.

>>15468789

I personnaly would rather have backwards compatibility. I missed the entire WiiU library and there's a few titles there I wanted to try (Xenoblade Chronicles X) or some of the Wii titles.

Now all I can wait for is that they make sequels or ports, which thankfully happened for Splatoon, Bayonetta, etc.

The state of emulators is currently good enough that I have no idea why they'd even try to compete against them. It's pretty hard to make a better deal than free programs with nice tech support and dedication.

>>15468796

you forgot Wii, Genesis, DS, 3DS, Game Gear, Saturn, Dreamcast,TurboGrafx, MSX, Neo Geo, Commodore 64, and a few others. Hell if they wanted too, we could probably get PSX, PS2, PSP, Xbox Classic, and even Playstation Vita games

>>15468825

>backwards compatibility

I don't even think that could work between the WiiU and the Switch. Like the architecture is too different or some shit. Hell the Switch runs on an ARM chip instead of an 86x CPU. I'm sure Nintendo could make it work, but they've already had too much success with Mario Kart. There was no stopping the Deluxe train.

wouldnt you be playing on fortnite servers though? do you really need the nintendo online to play it online? i dont think its for every game.

>>15468739

this >>15468778

it wouldnt bug me if it were a bit more fleshed out. if it at least came with better servers. and i know it wont because if it came with dedicated servers they would advertise it to us proudly. p2p connections were always pretty lame but it was free so how much could i really complain?

the piddly amount of nes games theyre including is cute at best. not a bad idea but not worth the insult.

>>15468843

monhun

>>15468823

In a society where bending over and spreading your asshole is considered normal male bonding, are you really surprised that it's considered normal consumer behavior?

>>15468843

The FighterZ port is coming at the end of the month.

>>15468824

Its an online-only game though, I can see this being related to this to cushion the blow

>>15468843

Not really, probably why they delayed the service.

>>15468872

Online only games just like with sony aren't included in paid online I think.

>>15468825

>It makes perfect sense to use a phone for communication instead of strapping phones to the console

They've been strapping microphones to their consoles since the NES

>>15468898

I think they said it's an opt-out service, so devs can opt out of it if they want to.

>>15468900

>why would they bother giving anything more?

There's a very sizeable indie library on the Switch and I'm sure it doesn't sell as well as mainstream titles. It'd be easy enough to pick one at random every month and give it for free with online.

If it's something they can't sell much anyway, it's just more subscriptions they get.

>Every sale of that game is a sale of the online.

Speak for yourself, faggot. I'm buying it and I ain't gonna get online for that. Smash is to be enjoyed in singleplayer or with friends in the same room. Going online for competition against random faggots is taking the game too seriously.

>>15468843

Probably the one in the OP

>>15468900

smash online is always so laggy that i dont really enjoy it.

>>15468756

No one defends the Sony here

>>15468560

Both. The game is shit and the people who like it are shit. The map has vast distances you're forced to cross with no cover, and they justify the lack of environmental features with a building system where you can erect walls yourself, but the walls just get shot out of existence as fast as you can build them, so long-distance engagements are only wars of attrition. The gunplay is extremely unsatisfying, and PC players who use a gamepad actually have an advantage over KBM players, because gamepad usage gets them auto-aim which can be abused for easy headshots at distances a KBM player would struggle with.

But guys, you can talk to your friends, on your phone!

>>15468756

they are literally forcing you to pay for the ability to back up your saves. And those saves go poof if you miss a payment. Remember, the switch has no way to move your save data to an external device.

>>15469009

What the fuck? Even the 3DS had a way of extracting the saves from the carts even without CFW.

>>15469000 (checked)

Why talk to your friends on a phone, when you could do the same thing by setting up a group call?

>>15468906

what incentive is there to have nintendo online associated with your game?

>>15469009

"Forcing" is the wrong word since you can opt out of using that.

>>15469017

I'd assume it's because this isn't strictly for playing with friends but rather to setup voice chat with whoever you're currently playing with.

As in, you'd start a Splatoon match and a group call would be setup automatically with everyone playing the game and using the app.

Advantages are obviously less of an hassle setting up the communication, you get to talk with complete strangers instead of just your friends, and once the match is over everyone goes their merry ways without you having given your cellphone number to complete strangers.

Assuming, of course, that this is how it will work.

>>15469053

You don't have to have your own server and related infrastructure? Probably you'd even get that for free since it's the fans paying for it in the end, which is probably better than devs being the ones forking up the cash for servers.

>>15468796

It gets worse, apparently the games saves are stored in their service as long as you continue to pay for the online. If you cancel the subscription (even for a month) everything is deleted.

>>15469141

>Nintendo's online ass raping of its player base.

>Same as Sony's online raping as its player base a few years back.

>Both copied Microsoft's ass original raping of its player base.

…except that Nintendo doesn't have the same infrastructure. There's no in-game chat or lobbies, the players have to use a smartphone.

How could they expect people to pay for the online service when they can't even provide the same services as the 2 other companies?

Also it's ok to criticize Nintendo, it's not a console war thread, enough with that paranoia.

>>15469157

Not to split hairs, but it seems more like you can't access cloud saves without a subscription rather than they're outright deleted if you cancel it at any time.

>>15469182

They are proving the same service, the infrastructure is there they just tied it to a mobile app for some reason.

>>15469201

The switch is a handheld.

:^)

>>15469157

They don't say they will delete your saves, only that you can't access them if you don't have an active menbership. They'll likely be stored on a server until you pay up (but probably they'll only be kept for a few months at best).

Specifically the part about the classic games in the NES, they specify that those aren't deleted because they are stored in the console itself, not their servers (but you still need a menbership to play them)

There's nothing here about deleting data once the menbership ends.

>>15469157

Its why the concept of "The Cloud" is a load of horseshit. There is no cloud, only someone else's computer. Keep your saves local, free or not.

>This shitty meme game is now so popular that it's being included in console bundles

The items you get that are listed on the box don't even seem to be exclusive. What's the point?

Online is supposed to go live today but when?

>>15468996

>PC players who use a gamepad actually have an advantage over KBM players

Objectively false. Gamepads build and edit structures slower.

>the walls just get shot out of existence as fast as you can build them

If you've never played the game, don't pretend as if you have.

>>15469338

Thanks mate

>>15468775

>still clinging to NES after all these years

I would like to interject for a moment that nerdy people that were into emulators are the sole reason why 8bit is still cool trend right now.

>>15469348

I'm a female who wants you to have sex with you.

>>15469427

>wants you to have sex with you.

>you to have sex with you

fucking asexuals

>>15469468

Ok.

>Bundle your system with a free-to-play game.

Now that's just sad. Almost as sad as the tens of thousands of dumb schmucks who are going to buy it as if it was some kind of bargain. Even Sony Computer Picture Studios managed to at least put their feature film Uncharted into their bundle (then claim it was a huge success because it sold at a 1:1 ratio with every console sold over it's first year on market).

>>15469696

Take it to the erp board please.

>>15468742

The Nintendo Online Paywall is for Nintendo games only. Fortnite gets free online forever.

>>15470071

>Nintendo is the least worst

It doesn't matter if it's a penny or a grand. It's still soft-extortion. None of these schemes have anything to do with online… it's all to just guarantee monthly game sales. Most people who buy consoles only ever buy a couple of games over the consoles entire lifespan, and royalties on game sales is where hardware manufacturers make most of their cash. Hell, it used to be primary back in the day reasonably powerful custom hardware was sold at a loss. Sony started this shit with PSPlus, giving people a discount not really, they just marked everything up by 5% unless you subscribed as well as a selection of monthly game offerings. The problem was, nobody signed up for it because nobody wants to spend money monthly on a bunch of bargain bin indie trash they never asked for in the first place. But the idea of "free" (not really) games each month was a powerful marketing cludgel - and Microsoft copied it and tied it to their multiplayer paywall. Suddenly, everybody wanted in on it because now something they actually wanted was contingent upon their subscription to the game of the month club. Rates go up to cover the costs, monthly game sales (which it counts as) go up, and subscription rates go through the roof.

Now Nintendo wants in on this scheme, and they don't even have the fucking decency to leverage their 30+ years in the gaming business to offer some decent legacy titles. Just a handful of NES roms they've been overpricing for years and which you already have if you ever played Animal Crossing. That's what keeps their costs down, because they don't have the overhead of having to secure third party shitware to hock at you. They have their own pile of free (to them) bones to throw out for the rats to gnaw on. Meanwhile, they just pocket the $20 for doing absolutely nothing.

>>15470088

>The Nintendo Online Paywall is for Nintendo games only. Fortnite gets free online forever.

It's not for Nintendo games only, it's for all multiplayer games. Free-To-Play games get an exemption, like they do on Playstation, because they support themselves on lootboxes and microtransactions. Since only a minority of players will ever spend an appreciable amount of money on lootboxes - they need to lower the bar of entry as much as possible so that it's exposed to the largest segment of potential customers. It's a concession to F2P developers (plus, I'm pretty sure Sony/Nintendo gets a cut of the sales of the currency bundles sold on their storefronts - so it benefits them too)

Microsoft is the only company that makes you pay a monthly subscription fee to play free-to-play games online.

>>15470114

I am just a PC player looking at all this bullshit from the outside and wondering why console players on all systems put up with this?

>>15468527

>next the fucking YouTube video is being downvoted by normalfags like crazy

Which one?

>>15470155

Because they don't have a choice. They'd rather just pay out for everything to just work out of the box, even if the only reason why it's not working is because the company you're dealing with broke it so that you would pay for them to fix it.

Playing on PC would require an average intelligence on par with a jar of warm mayonnaise, and a modicum of will to google an answer to a question if something goes wrong. They don't have that.

>>15468527

Nintendo is simply getting what they so richly deserve for making such a greedy, shortsighted decision. That doesn't count as console wars, as far as I'm concerned.

>Bundle that costs nothing to make

>not even a rip off of a digital game that should be physical

Y'know, if I didn't have literally 2 games I want on the thing, and both have tons of single player, I'd probably be pissed.

Nintoddlers are like 0.1% of the market who cares

>>15470977

>0.1% of the market

They have the fastest selling console in the history of the USA. You really need to back to school.

>>15471002

>usa

Who the fuck cares? Again they are such a small percentage of the market and that garbage console can't even run last gen games at 1080p 60fps

Anon I was home schooled

>>15471002

It's like with the Wii, massive hardware sales to retards who only buy the first party annualized mario/zelda/pokemon/smash to hold onto that childhood one more year. Every one of them will pay the $20 subscription so people saying that's a failure are also retarded.

>>15471062

Don't forget the indieshit that apparently sells better on Switch than it does on PC and other consoles.

The reasons for that always interested me, though. Is it a lack of shit to play on Switch leading to more people seeking games, or a less bloated marketbase letting games be discovered easier? Maybe both? Something else?

I also wish there were more third party sales numbers for Switch games.

Wait, disregard that, apparently sega made it a bundle now.

>>15470141

Mario Kart and SSB especially is just irreconcilable absolutely pathetic underhanded shit.

>>15470141

>It's not for Nintendo games only, it's for all multiplayer games.

Nobody gives a shit about third party switch online, i mean, what even is there, Payday 2 and DOOM?

>>15468851

MHW is on steam tho

>>15468775

It's not just paid online. It's paid p2p. You don't pay for any Nintendo servers at all other then the fucking lobby.

>>15469201

Exactly.

3ds is still pretty wide open

>>15469394

I disagree the reason 8-bit is popular is because those indie devs are hacks and making 16-bit or 32-bit graphics is too time consuming and difficult for them.

lol cardboard

This "game" is a CIA psyop.

>>15469313

lol what the fuck

So, did you buy online?

>>15468527

Nice!

Hopefully, this child rape supporter company begins to fall from grace in the eyes of normalfags.

Jewtendo and Soyny must be brought down the same way that Micro$hit was.

>>15471076

>Don't forget the indieshit that apparently sells better on Switch than it does on PC and other consoles.

>

>The reasons for that always interested me, though. Is it a lack of shit to play on Switch leading to more people seeking games, or a less bloated marketbase letting games be discovered easier? Maybe both? Something else?

Hipsters and Soy Golems, most likely. People who buy Nintendo for the retro cred, are also more likely to latch onto "underground" indies you probably never heard of - it's pretty niche - for chic geek cred, and having it retro/ironically retro (and also "ironically" shit often enough, btw) fits the image they're trying to cultivate better.

The reason why they don't sell as well on the PS4/Xbox is because those are mainstream consoles used mostly for AAA and weebshit, so there's no appeal for the hipster there, and on PC it's a combination of completely hypersaturation and the fact that none of these fucks can figure out how to get them to play on their Macbooks.

>>15471076

You'd likely see the same amount of sales for Android if those indie titles could actually be run in Android.

The portability is probably the biggest factor in favor of this, being able to play indie titles anywhere while you're traveling around vs staying home on your PC, where you'll probably have better things to play with anyway.

I mean, this isn't rocketscience. The Switch is basically a very powerfull handheld that can run regular console games and indie titles instead of simple or downscaled versions of the same games like most handhelds. It's obvious it'd sell well with casuals due to it's inherent casual nature and therefore it would be the best ecosystem to sell indie titles.

I'll never pay a cent for online play of any videogame. And if it ever becomes a requirement then I'll just never play online games again. Does anybody else feel this way?

>>15472493

You know, if you go around calling everyone a "child rape supporter" without ever backing your claims, you're not really making an accusation, you're just making it sound like "hey, everyone does it, why wouldn't you too?"

Which, coming from a Tor poster, isn't really surprising.

>>15468540

You misspelled Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

>>15472561

>spooderman is bad cause he works with the cops now

>now

And then they wonder how everyone knows and calls them fake geeks. That was the schtick for super heroes, cooperate with the local enforcement and let them handle things after the hero dealt with the hard stuff.

Especially Spiderman (but also Batman) who would stick criminals to a wall and let the cops arrest them afterwards.

I mean, what do they actually expect to happen? That Spiderman shows up and kicks the bad guys so hard he breaks their spine or twists their neck? Or that a really bad beating is enough to convince someone to give up a life of crime?

Is this what due process goes by for these idiots? "Just pummel the shit out of someone when he breaks the law and he'll learn his lesson."

>>15472568

That's a really, reall bad shoop. The soylent bottle popping up from the Switch with no bottom or support below it looks really stupid and everything around it looks shooped as well.

Goddamit, why did the soyboys had to like the Switch

>>15472625

>The soylent bottle popping up from the Switch

Do you mean the lamp in the background?

>>15472678

Fuck me, I'm seeing soylent bottles everywhere, what the fuck. This meme is getting to me, I need onions.

>>15470071

>least worst

Actually it's balanced out by how awful the service is and the fact that the Switch has less online and general features than those of past consoles.

>>15472714

I'm half convinced the soy bottle meme is some form of advertising. I've never seen it in stores or heard anyone even mention it.

>>15472753

All memes are some form of advertising at this point.

>>15471699

mhw is not a monster hunter game.

>>15468843

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Fast RMX Racing

Super Bomberman R

Splatoon 2

Arms

Mario Tennis Aces

Monster Hunter

DOOM

Puyo Puyo Tetris

Fornite

And probably a dozen or so indie games with online play

Going forward:

Dark Souls

Diablo 3

Smash

Warframe

ASSFAGGOTS

Dragon Ball FighterZ

Ark: Survival Evolved

Final Fantasy: Chrystal Chronicles

Probably missing a lot from both what's available and what's coming.

>They're shit!

That wasn't stipulated beforehand

>>15472736

The battle royale is f2p, but the actual game which they turned into a battle royale after the genre blew up is not f2p.

>>15472883

save to SD/Memory but cant cloud save thats all, and I think you can download the Monhun DLC still. But even cloud saves are cucked because they get wiped the literal second online runs out while everyone else gives you half a year grace period or never wipe them.

>>15472883

Of course you can save your games, anon. It's just cloud saves that are affected. Specifically, you need to pay for online to get them, and if you stop paying even briefly, the saves are wiped.

>>15472893

>>15472892

Unless Nintendo has clarified it, no where does it say they are deleted, just that you cannot access them without an active sub. Please don't mindlessly spread bullshit despite paid online being very jewish.

Isn't fortnite a f2p game, what a shit bundle

>>15472918

The more I read about it, the more I see how fucking worthless Nintendo is with anything online. They had all the cheats and answers from Sony and Microsoft ready to be written down and they just fucked off and didn't learn anything from their competitors. At barest minimum cloud save backups should have been fucking gratis. That's the path they chose when they didn't want to allow local backups because m-muh hackers.

The price tag should have come with some positive net benefit. They took down all the roms and started selling their own overpriced versions, but they should have pulled a page from Sony and offered something like one free random NES/SNES game a month on rotation for subscribers. That alone would have justified the $20 price tag, and fuck it might have even earned them a few sales from people who otherwise wouldn't have purchased one of those games.

>>15468527

>console bundle for a free game

wew

>>15472922

>>15472932

Sony did the same thing. You'd be surprised how many people come in to the store with their kids, just knowing that they want a box that plays Fortnite. Seeing the game on the console box saves them having to ask the store clerk, so they just go with that.

The electronics store nearby sold out of Fortnite PS4s, while the God of War bundles stuck around.

>>15472918

Except we have >>15469157 which is from Nintendo's own FAQ page, you double nigger.

>>15472933

honestly I just want fortnite to pass so we can have something somehow worse

>>15472956

CFW is going to ream Nintendo's ass wide open. It's gonna be just like the 3DS where we have full access to all NES games by stripping out the game data from the emulator and re-packaging it with a different game before installing it on the system.

>>15469226

gross breeding indeed

>>15469157

It's pretty amazing a company that holds your savegames hostage for sheckels can somehow still come across to the majority of people as family friendly. Fuck it if Nintendo's marketing budget doesn't pay for itself.

>>15472950

I know its vague and it really needs clarified. That's my whole point. It looks like some attempt was made to change the wording backpeddal because what's in those articles from last Friday doesn't match what's currently on Nintendo's own site. But, whatever. Guess I'm the retard shill trying to approach this from a neutral point.

I read all of that shit last week, anyway, and thought it was a stupid decision regardless.

>>15473018

You and I both know these shitstains don't actually know anything about these comics, characters, etc. At least outside of flashy hollywood trash.

>>15468996

>The gunplay is extremely unsatisfying

Never fully got what this meant, how do the guns feel, like airsoft?

>>15468796

all they need to do is pay a few [s]youtube content creators[/s] to go: HEYWHATSUPGUYS CHECK OUT THE NEW SWITCH and watch their fanbase of medicated bastard children buy it in droves.

>>15472918

Their shitty paid online didn't even have cloud saves initially. A bunch of manchildren whined about it and nintendo probably figured it was money being left on the table. All they would have had to do is put out a firmware update that allowed you to backup your save data to the microSD card. It'll never happen now that they can just keep such a "feature" hostage.

Listen up you fucking retards, Fortnite doesn't require Nintendo's jewery paid online to function.

https://www.please use archive.ism/articles/2018/09/14/nintendo-switch-online-subscription-not-required-to-play-fortnite-some-other-games

Edumucate yourselves.

>>15470190

this one

>>15472736

>>15472885

Fortnite: Save the World, the original PvE mode (of the game called Fortnite and how it was revealed to the world) of gathering materials by day to build "forts" to survive against the zombie hoards at "night" (thus the name Fortnite) has to be purchased. (this is not available on Switch)

Fortnite: Battle Royale is F2P (and that upcoming Playground creative build mode) and all F2P games can be played without the Switch's online subscription.

In all honestly I feel sorry for the dev team who came up with the original FN (rebranded as Save the World), they spent years on that, came up with the clever name, and now the meaning behind the Fortnite name is lost and is just associated with the fucking PUBG ripoff that's only popular because it's FREE and kids don't have any money to buy new games. It would be interesting to see how many FN:BR players even know that the Save the World mode even exists.

>>15469188

Who's he fanboying then retard? He's shitting on all 3.

F2P games can be played online for free but games I paid for I have to pay again to play them online! Why? Stop this scam already and never support paid online.

>>15476202

I wanna know how the hell they managed this as well, don't most modern televisions and monitors have the means to avoid this happening

>>15476202

I had this shit on my NDS. Ninja Gaiden's top bar burned into screen.

>>15476240

It's not about you, stupid goy, it's about the companies. Once you buy a game, they already have your money. They need to find some other way to keep you paying for what you already bought. Free to play games, on the other hand, finance themselves by selling themselves a model and a texture at a time at exhorbitant rates or through slot-machine gambling mechanics. So they need to lower of the bar of entry as much as possible so that any scrub with a deficit of braincells and a credit line can walk into their online stores and buy shit as easily as possible.

You could always just buy an Xbox One. At least Microsoft has the consistency to charge you a monthly subscription fee to play free to play games.

>>15476276

Even some big MMOs use B2P model. They're making paid online just cause it's free money. Sony shutdown Gravity Daze 2 online even with paid online. Hopefully Belgium will start rape against game companies after fucking gacha. Their people can't buy gacha coins anymore and made laws against it I think.

>>15476253

Well most displays don't have burn, the only ones I know that can burn the image on the screen are crt, plasma, and oled screens

So I have no clue how the hell they managed to have burn in on lcds

Wait, is it possible to hack the switch for free online and etc? Can someone explain this to me or at least point me in the right direction?

>>15468527

And yet everyone will still keep supporting them. Nintendo has a guaranteed market Until the millennials start dying off.

>>15470071

>console children

Back to r/masterrace

>>15476365

It's not burn in, but image retention made worse by the shader they're using for the CRT filter, it vanishes after 30 minutes.

>>15468527

I'm actually surprised by the reaction.

Microsoft has always charged for online and its fans were fine with it. Sony used to be free which its fans bragged about last then, but when they started charging they were fine with it. When Nintendo starts charging there's actual outcry about it. Why are Nintendo fans more vocal about being jewed over online?

>>15485413

<last then

last gen

>>15485413

if tendo is charging for p2p like xbox did then it's not fine whether fans are fine with it or not

Nintendo is such a fucking joke these days

>>15485413

Probably because all the people who didn't want to get scammed paying for p2p online eventually moved to Nintendo consoles, but now there's no escape because Nintendo is doing it too so they're very vocal about.

>>15473118

I agree. That was scummy as shit, even the 3ds allows sd card backups.

>>15485413

Microsoft did it before normalfag social media and it was seen as "good" because the alternatives were online subscriptions for a single game, usually an mmo that piled up if you played more than one at a time. No one knew better as there generally was not too much of a frame of reference for non mmos that did not use p2p, at least not for normalfags. I was gifted xbox live year one of it being on the original, used it all of 4 times over the first 2 years. Never cared for online.

>>15485413

>Why are Nintendo fans more vocal about being jewed over online?

Because Nintendofags thought they were special snowflakes and that Nintendo was an Honorabaru company who just wanted to make video games.

Turns out, they just want to make money.

>>15490692

>Nintendo fans don't want to be charged for online

>its the fans that did something wrong

I wonder who could be behind this post

>>15485413

>Microsoft has always charged for online and its fans were fine with it.

That's because Microsoft's fanboys were indoctrinated right at the very beginning, back when broadband internet was still a pretty rare thing outside urban centers. So if you had broadband back then, chances are you were really just paying to keep the 56k scrubs out of your games - especially since everything was peer to peer, it really gave the illusion of a fast dedicated network which still erroneously persists to this day for a lot of them. So, under that illusion, they paid happily for what they saw as a "service" being rendered.

It's only now that people are starting to question it, because with Windows 10 PC players now having free access to the "full benefits" of their network - console tards are finally listening to PC players arguments and realizing that they're getting scammed. That they shouldn't have to pay either, especially when they're getting their shit pushed in by M&KB users who don't have to pay a dime.

Eventually MS will remove the Xbox Live multiplayer paywall. Hell, maybe next gen - a way to come out swinging against the PS5 who you damned well know aren't going to want to give up that golden goose after just buying into it. Meanwhile, they'll still end up raking in even more cash than Xbox Live provided via digital rental services like GamePass and All Access.

>release a console without paid online

>leave it that way for over a fucking year

>remove the online capabilities of the console

>act surprised when people get upset

Actually it was more like a year and a half. It doesn't matter that this was "always the plan" because the plan was fucking retarded and destined to fail. You don't give people something for free for this long and except them to act like you're not stealing from them when you take it away. World of Warcraft didn't give people a year and a half of free gametime when you first bought the game. They gave you like 30 fucking days.

And the most amazing part is they took a year and a half AFTER console launch to turn this thing on and they have NOTHING to offer for it. Some half-baked cloud save service that 90% of the games don't even support? That's fucking it? Did Nintendo literally not even start development on their online framework until after the Switch launched? Because that's what it fucking looks like.

>>15490743

back to reddit cuck

>>15490739

It's like they lack a basic understanding of human psychology.

>>15485413

>Sony used to be free which its fans bragged about last then, but when they started charging they were fine with it.

This is not true at all, there was massive backlash when Sony finally went paid.

>>15468775

The least that nintendo could do with their online shit is like what they did when they had the broadcast satellite service and live events. Now that had some cool shit.

>>15490692

>thought nintendo was an honorabaru company

>this amount of jewery

Iwata must be rolling in his grave full of bananas at what nu-tendo is pulling.

>>15485413

Fortnite is free on PS4, no PSN sub needed. Or so I think, don't play this.

>>15496386

>Lol Xbox Live is the only thing that makes MS money.

So what? They're going to run Xbox Live and Game Pass concurrently this generation to get people used to the higher bundle price, then drop it's requirement for multiplayer from the roster while running a digital game rental service. A year or two in they'll up the price of Game Pass and to cover the costs. Meanwhile, they've got a scores of shitheads locked into a two year contract because $30 a month looks cheaper than $500 + $60/year. And not long after that expires, they'll have a brand new mid-gen refresh for you to get locked into another 2 year contract with.

Meanwhile, they're going to come out smelling like fucking roses to the masses because they're offering "customer choice" and being the "good guy" pushing crossplay a move to appease microtransaction hungry publishers who loathe a fragmented market and moved towards tearing down the multiplayer paywall that they standardized in the first place. All the while Sony and Nintendo's thumbs are going to still tightly clenched up their own rectums trying to hold onto the paywalls they just got put up.

Microsoft isn't giving up a cent of profit. They're increasing the margins. They just obfuscating a price hike by masking it with other services.

>>15471789

That's the same on nearly every other console platform - the only infrastructure is the back-end services for account/title/purchase management and then usually a basic statistic tracking system and peer matchmaking.

Dedicated servers are incredibly rare.

>>15496782

They will have to make Gamepass worth it. Microsoft has no exclusives people really care about and I don't see third parties jump on board.

Besides what is the difference between paying for XBL or Gamepass? I don't see Sony or Nintendo go into a subscription with their consoles.

>go to the gym and be some roastie's sex doll

I'd rather just play a game dude

>>15468527

What's their actual excuse for this jewry though? Every developer pretty much hosts their own game servers so what the fuck do they want money for?

>>15472559

>Does anybody else feel this way?

Does it matter? Think for yourself.

>>15497051

Because they can.

>>15472568

The memes have got loose again

>>15472559

>>15478767

Would it be "free" if I used their rewards points to "pay" for it? They still wanted something for means of ruccuring payment, but no money had been given. Not even sales tax.

>>15471015

Binary Domain was made by the same guys who make Yakuza. That game is far from indie

>>15496386

Microsoft makes more money from android patents than they make from Windows.

>>15494818

But not nearly as much backlash as the Switch had because Sony, as retarded as they were, didn't launch the PS4 with free online and then reneg on it a year and a half later. That shit was upfront and on the table. You get new console, you pay for online.

>>15497195

Is it really a reneg when they had broadcast early on they were going to do it? Sure, the assumption, at the time, was that we'd see it not long after the switch came out, not a year and a half later. Regardless, its not like this wasn't seen from miles away. Maybe it could have been a degree less stupid if there was actual improvement and reason for a paid service over a free one. Instead we'll likely just get a lot of doubling down.

Is PS4 online worth it? My friends have PS4s and apparently you get free PSN games.

>>15497195

>Nice revisionism faggot.

They got the exact same shit Nintendo is getting now. Not that it helped any dumb normalfags move onto the next outrage withing a few weeks/months.

>>15469201

sauce?

>Can't back up game saves locally because Nintendo wants you to buy their online subscription to back up your game saves to their cloud storage

>Wanting to back up game saves is now a service

How long until sony and microsoft start removing local storage game save too?

>NES Online

>No MOTHERFUCKING Tetris because of PuyoPuyo Tetris

JUST

Does Big N has the Licenses for LJN Games? I would laugh so fucking hard when these shit games get released in 2019

>>15485413

>Sony fans were okay with it

Are you retarded?

>Nintendo fans are not okay with it

Okay, you are retarded.

All I hear from nintendo fan boys is "B-but it's only 20 bucks!! Look, it's cheaper than everyone else! Nintendo is a business! Everyone else is doing it!"

>>15476201

Is that Justin Trudeau?

I agree that Fortnite is trash, but Nintendo is merely responding to market demands here.

>>15502045

>The market demanded they be charged for shitty online

>>15502050

The market also demands microtransactions. I'm not contributing to it, just observing it.

>>15502170

I chuckled, anon; If that makes you feel better.

>>15502051

I didn't realize that 'market' just meant corporations now.

>>15502401

>free

>nintendo

Unlikely.

>>15502170

I wonder if the spaces between red boxes form a swastika when spinning

>>15502170

I like it! Saved.

>>15502532

>Final Fantasy XVI MC.jpg

>>15515146

nah that's just some ugly kike.