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77a4c6  No.15448595

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-rtx-2080-official-gaming-performance/

So the bullshit continues more bullshit graphs and games that aint coming out for a year or more and have to have rtx support patched in and usually only AI AA meme ao, shadows etc

WOW $1200-1500usd for this shit

77a4c6  No.15448612

meanwhile a 1080ti is 1/4 of the price used and does 4k 60hz


181ca9  No.15448633

>>15448612

And a 1060 is half the price of a 1080 and does 60fps @1080p

Gaming is in a fucking rut, make no mistake.


e93266  No.15448637

>>15448612

you find me a 1080ti for 300 and i'll suck you off


fcf8c9  No.15448638

File: ab79c020de51433⋯.jpg (15.14 KB, 184x184, 1:1, 12473.jpg)

>>15448595

It's not even 7nm either, apparently.


77a4c6  No.15448642

>>15448633

they where going for like 500aud here as well lol

nvidia has a 300k glut of unused pascal gpus

>>15448637

wait till next month every retailer will try to unload them and miners have already dumped all their rx480-1060 gear


77a4c6  No.15448643

>>15448638

well nvidia has 7nm planned for 2020 and mcm for 202x


ee4101  No.15448646

File: 20b8aea9753f5ae⋯.jpg (27.21 KB, 641x468, 641:468, 2014-06-30 02_54_42-MEGAS ….jpg)

>>15448595

>novidya flagship card can't even hit 60fps in its raytracing tech for a game premiering it


d18ac7  No.15448653

>>15448612

It's a meaningless statement without knowing /what/ at 4k 60hz. Even a GTX 950 can do 4k@60 for something as it's HDMI 2.0. Nvidia's taking advantage of people not being able to grasp that in graph #1 and has just normalized the RTX 2080 at the 4k@60 line so paid journalists can echo this as "4k 60fps now possible thanks to Nvidia(tm) RTX!"


177592  No.15448656

>>15448646

buy the $800 gsync monitor and it'll be buttery smooth :^)


fcf8c9  No.15448657

>>15448643

Yeah, but Apple is just about to start shipping with 7nm processors in the new iPhone. It's here in full force, and AMD is going to come sweep the floor with their benchmarks as long as Nvidia doesn't purposefully ensure that all the newest games run like shit on AMD. Yeah, maybe they're not so fucked after all.


e808c8  No.15448693

File: a5edd38c4a75ae6⋯.jpg (28.72 KB, 203x345, 203:345, seriousy-goyim.jpg)

4k is a meme

1080p@144fps > 60 fps anything


77a4c6  No.15448701

>>15448693

fuck off screenlet at 27-40+ inch screen sizes 1080p looks like ass


e808c8  No.15448706

>>15448701

Go back to cuckchan


22b86d  No.15448709

>>15448633

I can't wait for my 1060 to flat out stop working with games when they force me to update my drivers!

Oh wait, that's already happening


77a4c6  No.15448714

>>15448706

>cuckchan

fuck off back to resetera faggot i have a 29" screen 1080p and it looks like ass even when i downsampled 4k


485c3a  No.15448737

File: 412dca55da78865⋯.jpg (64.82 KB, 600x469, 600:469, 412dca55da788656cc96829cbe….jpg)

>There's still barely any games that squeak any practical use out of being 4k or reasonably make use of that resolution

>Even excluding the retardation of Font and UI scaling in the HD ERA most games are functionally full of necessary visual information at fucking 600p

>Nvidia wants $1200 for a card when AMD is violating them in production level graphics processing

>The one thing they might have on anyone else at this point is Graphics libraries designed to cripple even their own GPUs

The Absolute State of NVIDIA.

>The way it's meant to be paid


d3aaa4  No.15448738

File: a6ed42d9c898ab2⋯.jpg (27.75 KB, 492x388, 123:97, a6ed42d9c898ab2eb5ed69e1cf….jpg)

>>15448693

>he cant even 2k


485c3a  No.15448739

>>15448709

Why the fuck are you using stock nvidia drivers?


d18ac7  No.15448749

>>15448706

>muh fist-sized pixels for the comfy couch

You're 1 ft away from a PC monitor. You can't go much bigger than 18" without most of the pixels being deep in the low sensitivity region of your peripheral vision.


c9a435  No.15448790

File: 563a65f7aca5c14⋯.jpg (1.4 MB, 3840x2160, 16:9, UncappedFPS_witcher3_2017_….jpg)

>>15448693

>not 1440p@165Hz

4K is stupid demanding though. With two 1080 Ti in SLI The Witcher 3 maxed out would only hit between 70-80 fps so I dunno what the fuck they think those 4K HDR 144Hz monitors are for if you can't even run at that resolution and framerate. Also HDR causes an additional performance hit in most titles. The lack of multi-GPU support in so many games is another nail in the coffin for performance at 4K.

It's too bad they're pushing raytracing more than anything else with little to no focus on NVlink as multi-GPU is going to be necessary for the high refresh 4K monitors they've promoted and given the massive performance hit caused by real-time raytracing you'll need multi-GPU just to use raytracing on anything higher than 1080p.

It's all a moot point if the prices never come down and I don't see why they would since they overproduced the 10 series for mining and now have to price the 20 series high as fuck just to keep people buying the overstocked 10 series.


177592  No.15448795

File: 76ad7637b74788d⋯.jpg (54.52 KB, 720x720, 1:1, visionmaster.jpg)

>>15448790

>165hz

wow it sure is 2002 in here


c9a435  No.15448796

File: b36fb6f7920f752⋯.jpg (225.78 KB, 600x1002, 100:167, I'm_taking_it_back,_Dante.jpg)

>>15448795

We're bringing it back, Dante.


e3fa00  No.15448804

File: dcd8bf5f1429c09⋯.jpg (57.54 KB, 835x773, 835:773, dcd8bf5f1429c099c76500ce50….jpg)

>>15448790

>88 FPS


177592  No.15448839

>>15448796

LCDs really did hold back display technology for 15 years. How horrifying.


77a4c6  No.15449053

>>15448656

wowe 25-45 fps on a $1200usd gpu i feel so privileged

>>15448795

>tinyass crt

sigh

>>15448839

oh yeah because 1kg 50" 8k 244hz crt's where around the corner.

Do you not remember the clusterfuck that was Rear Projection HD CRT tv's ?

Do you not remember phorphor decay, static, EMR and HUEG weight? Also having to regas vac and other fiddly shit?

CRT's where a huge pain in the ass and its true while we wont see sub 1ms response times most idiots dont care, sure i still notice even on meme oled displays and shit but most people dont especially with modern motion blur ironing out most of the visual kinks in movies and games

normalfags and normal fags are just gonna keep pushing the resolution up with little reguard for pixel response times and shit like display latency

Look at HDMI ffs everyone still uses it and its almost 15 years old at this point

https://www.blurbusters.com/forget-8k-how-about-a-100-inch-16k-s-uhd-tv/

>16k 100" display

>meanwhile gpus cant even do 4k 60hz and cost $2000+ to realistically achieve it (2x2080ti nvlinked) 8k 30fps is out of the question for next gen consoles

Dunno how they are gonan sell this gay shit


b7ddc9  No.15451608

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.


9d8d53  No.15451684

File: 319d164963f1d48⋯.png (25.06 KB, 745x139, 745:139, Unbenannt.PNG)

>>15448595

>Nvidia has review embargos on a fucking GPU that is only competing with their own GPUs while only releasing "information" drawn in paint.

Its gonna be shit, isnt it ? I sure fucking hope this generation crashes and burns.


3ad7b3  No.15451709

>>15448657

>as long as Nvidia doesn't purposefully ensure that all the newest games run like shit on AMD.

What do you think this raytracing shit is?

The whole point is if AMD releases faster hardware, Nvidia and their paid for tech can just go

>well AMD doesn't support raytracing so buy Nvidia!

or

>well AMD runs poorly in raytracing so buy nvidia

Whenever Nvidia pulls this shit where they go

>oh hey look at our cool new feature it'll change everything!

>oh no you can't review the card how you want!~

>you have to sign this NDA here if you want a card!

they have a turd and they're trying to cover up the stench with some gay gimmicks everyone will forget about in 5 years.


a5ec9e  No.15451736

>>15451709

>>well AMD doesn't support raytracing so buy Nvidia!

>or

>>well AMD runs poorly in raytracing so buy nvidia

I don't think that's gonna work this time around. It doesn't look like ray tracing is going to be that popular among normalfags and people will be content with ray tracing just being off. Besides, games are going to support both raytracing mode on and off so it's not going to matter too much.


54f561  No.15451775

File: 665d5eb9af0d1c6⋯.jpg (126.83 KB, 500x420, 25:21, 1429103000730.jpg)

>>15448595

>All these games that already run like shit are going to have their performance destroyed even harder by raytracing


9d8d53  No.15451788

File: 40789e20a6b5c44⋯.png (850.68 KB, 848x447, 848:447, reflections without RTX.PNG)

>>15451709

this may turn out pretty bad for them. Consumers buy Nvidia when they see benchmarks comparing both brands directly and see that NV is X% faster, and if AMD cant do raytracing then you have to make the comparison without raytracing, thus making their gimmick obsolete. If you enable it on NV then their performance tanks and the test favors AMD.

After all, you cant run realtime raytracing on a normal GPU in any acceptable way as of right now.

Raytracing isnt like 3D acceleration where everything else becomes obsolete. Its the Hairworks of lighting, and while that looks cool, its not like other GPUs cant do normal reflections. Pic related does not raytrace anything.


3b8380  No.15451832

Will already existing games or franchises benefit from thr coming RTX?

Is RTX just a gimmick?

If it IS just a gimmick to sell hardware, will Nvidia support developers with drivers and game developers with raytraicing implementation?

Will Cyberpunk 2077 have raytracing?

when is cyberpunk 2077 coming out?


b7ddc9  No.15451892

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Gonna wait 6 months for a pricedrop or a new, better card.


b7ddc9  No.15451901

>>15451832

By itself, it's not a gimmick, but with how Nvidia executes it. It IS a gimmick.

http://archive.is/8AytY

Anyways, it's apparently 50% better goy.


3b8380  No.15451912

>>15451901

50% better than what? there's no benchmarks to compare them to anything


3ad7b3  No.15451915

>>15451788

It'll be just like PhysX. I'm pretty sure Nvidia will let raytracing work on AMD hardware, but it won't be properly accelerated.

Remember all the bullshit they did with PhysX? That's coming again.

>>15451736

I think Nvidia is going to have a more difficult time pushing their bullshit. They have squandered a lot of good will by doing things like lying about a card being 4GB when it's actually 3.5GB, their linux bullshit, spyware in the drivers, hurting performance of old cards in new drivers, etc. People are slowly turning on Nvidia, though there will always be vocal, low IQ fanboys who think that this will revolution everything. And they'll probably completely misrepresent the whole thing

<dude Nvidia has raytracing now the whole scene is raytraced it's like nothing I've ever seen before it's literally Toy Story graphics in real time!!

>>15451901

It is a gimmick when it's bullshit raytracing with results so bad you have to add a billion different shitty filters to make it look decent.


b7ddc9  No.15451918

>>15451912

Exactly.

>>15451788

Describes it perfectly.


3ad7b3  No.15451931

>>15451912

use your imagination goy!


953c5e  No.15451941

>>15448739

>Why the fuck are you using stock nvidia drivers?

Because the other ones are a majority hush hush sekrit klub bullshit that offer no benifits other than not being made by nvidia


b7ddc9  No.15452018

>>15451941

They're not better I assume?


3b8380  No.15452030

File: 1bb7751b50c2881⋯.png (14.55 KB, 447x378, 149:126, 158.png)

>>15451931

>>15451918

fug

>>15448709

Anon… that's just a rumor :^)


77a4c6  No.15453396

File: 9252bf6516f09ec⋯.png (59 KB, 1000x469, 1000:469, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 72ae93da8d3e1c8⋯.png (58.11 KB, 1000x467, 1000:467, ClipboardImage.png)

File: e4a45ea251fa09a⋯.png (63.58 KB, 1000x491, 1000:491, ClipboardImage.png)

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File: 6bfa2629d4121e2⋯.png (62.11 KB, 1000x447, 1000:447, ClipboardImage.png)

https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-official-performance-unveiled

>has to benchmark 2-4 year old games

>still cant break 100fps+ in older gaems at 4k

gonna wait desu my 1080 doin fine


485c3a  No.15453406

>>15452018

When it comes to newer games/emulators, and some render software noveau drivers work better.


77a4c6  No.15453413

https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-official-performance-unveiled

The data we are sharing with you today comes from official Reviewers’ Guide. The numbers in this guide are only a reference for further benchmarking. It is probably an important thing to say that those numbers should not be taken very seriously. Each reviewer has a different testing methodology (different scenario, different testing equipment, a different list of games).

The graphs are based on values (framerate/scores) provided by NVIDIA for their recommended titles. Yes, the word recommended is rather important here too.

In GeForce RTX reviewer’s guide, NVIDIA is not using any other resolution than 4K. So all benchmarks (except VRMark Cyan Room) were performed at 3840×2160 resolution. In fact, the RTX 2080 series were ‘designed for 4K’, as the document claims.

NVIDIA reference system includes: X299 Rampage VI Apex, Core i9-7900X 3.3 GHz, Corsair 16GB DDR4 (no frequency specified), Windows 10 (v1803), NVIDIA 411.38 drivers.

>>15453396

oops forgot source

DirectX 12 Games

Battlefield 1 – Ultra Preset

Hitman – Highest Settings

Shadow of the Tomb Raider – Very High Preset, TAA

Star Wars: Battlefront II – Ultra Preset

DirectX 11 Games

Call of Duty: WWII – Render Resolution: Native, Pre-T2X Resolution: Native, Post Process AA: Filmic SMAA T2x, Texture Resolution: Extra, Normal Map Resolution: Extra, Specular Map Resolution: Extra, Sky Resolution: Normal, Shader Preload: On, Anisotropic Filtering: High, Shadows: On, Shadow Map Resolution: Extra, Shadow Depth: High, Screen Space Shadows: Always On, Screen Space Reflections: High, Cache Sun Shadow Maps: On, Depth of Field: High, Motion Blur: High Quality, Screen Space Ambient Occlusion: Hemo AO, Medium Distance Ambient Occlusion: On, Surface Scattering: On

F1 2018 – Ultra Preset, TAA, AF: 16x

Mass Effect: Andromeda – Ultra Preset

Middle-earth: Shadow of War – Ultra Preset

PlayerUknown’s Battlegrounds – Ultra Preset

Rainbow Six Siege – Ultra Preset

The Witcher 3 – Ultra Preset

Vulkan Games

Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus – Mein leben Preset

DirectX 12 Synthetic Benchmarks

3DMark – Timespy Extreme

VRMark – Cyan Room


77a4c6  No.15453440

File: c9dafde801b0187⋯.png (1.48 MB, 2144x1668, 536:417, ClipboardImage.png)

>80% price increase for 30-50perf

yeah great math nvidia


e3fa00  No.15453500

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15453396

>Mass Effect: Andromeda barely gets over 60 with new cutting edge graphics hardware.

Worst optimization in history confirmed.


b7ddc9  No.15453505

>>15453406

Then why is the other guy saying otherwise? Not being defensive. I want to know.


77a4c6  No.15453521

>>15453500

im more pissed that its such a measily perf increase for the price desu i can see alot of 2019-2020 games not getting 4k 60fps even


c9a435  No.15453529

File: ef3077d117aee47⋯.jpg (268.39 KB, 885x759, 295:253, steve.jpg)

>>15451608

>struggles to pull the cooler apart for over an hour until giving up


77a4c6  No.15453547

>>15453529

>watching unboxing


c9a435  No.15453573

>>15453396

>>15453440

The general expected increase from 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti, but the price tag is still just insane. TITAN prices for a Ti is retarded. Hopefully it comes down to the "introductory" price, but there's no reason that will happen for a long time.

>>15453547

A teardown is not an unboxing.


77a4c6  No.15453696

>>15453573

yeah even stalwart nvidiots dont wunna pay $1-2k for a gpu lol


77a4c6  No.15454027

Guess everyone is pretty unintested In this gpu lol


485c3a  No.15454570

File: 984bda5beee1457⋯.jpg (52.35 KB, 637x354, 637:354, bfeggius21-093.jpg)

>>15454027

Games are loaded with optimization killing Post Processing effects making hardware performance meaning less and less every year

It doesn't really offer anything that would help workloads for production work

Even if they get game developers to put specific assets and effects in their games to cripple any hardware besides the new gpu the adoption rate would be negligible.


77a4c6  No.15454572

>>15454570

Stop buying shit consoles and pc. Hardware then my 1080 has gotten faster over 2 years


485c3a  No.15454577

>>15454572

buddy, I think you don't understand. If we're looking at games themselves arbitrary visual technology and 4k aside game requirements haven't really advanced past mid range hardware .


77a4c6  No.15455042

>>15454577

Post process hardly costs any render time these days as I said your pc is shit and your playing crap games


485c3a  No.15455132

>>15455042

Nigger I've got a Threadripper and two 580s, and that's just my primary computer, not my render box.


77a4c6  No.15455143

>>15455132

Hahahahahahah oh wow literally slower then my oc 1080

>thread ripper + xfire 580s

What is this 2017😂


63c80c  No.15455314

File: 64c7f49fb371859⋯.jpg (774.23 KB, 2119x1077, 2119:1077, Screenshot_20180523-010742….jpg)

http://archive.is/5no3J

Pleasantly surprised.


4409e1  No.15455449

>>15448693

>widescreen

>not 4:3, the most natural and comfortable aspect ratio


974be1  No.15455476

File: c5e9c47e29014f1⋯.png (373.19 KB, 426x485, 426:485, smug jewkun girl.png)

I bought a gsync display and an evga 1080ti and saved $600 bucks off the total cost including some credit card rewards kikery and other deals on the display. With the step up program if the new cards are good I can pay the difference and step up to a 2080ti in 90 days of my purchase. So if the new cards are shit I still saved a shit ton of money and worse case I use my savings to pay for the upgrade.

You gotta jew life or else its gonna jew you.


fcd971  No.15455946

>>15448693

4K is good because of pixels, though. The limited amount of pixels in a 1080p screen causes sharp edges that looks like shit without any sort of anti-aliasing.

4K screens, however, can power through with the sheer density of pixels and achieve a great picture without any post-processing requirement.

I'm not saying it's worth buying a meme card and a meme monitor for it yet, wasting 3 thousand dollars so you don't have to use AA is retarded, all I'm saying is that there's a positive side that'll make it worth it once it's at a decent price.


63c80c  No.15456537

>>15455946

It'll be gud to emulate penis3 gaems


bc6296  No.15456554

after my 1070ti dies i'm done with vidya. ati is garbage and i don't want to give nvidia my money anymore. they dropped the ball with the shitcoin miners and in good faith should have sold these new gpu with a narrow profit margin. instead they overcharge as an even bigger fuck you when i had to pay fucking $450 for a 1070ti


d18ac7  No.15456720

>>15453573

>Hopefully it comes down to the "introductory" price

I don't think it will. I think the 20x series is being rushed (Ti from day 1, for example) and will be low volume so cost them more. They've likely got the next generation ready faster than expected and don't want to delay.


638cdb  No.15456776

>>15456554

Ngreedia raised the prices on RTX line so they dont have to lower the prices on 10 series cards, kikery at its finest. Fun fact about RTX cards, Ngreedia sell their cards to AIBs at MSRP price, the profit margins on custom made cards are shit to the likes of ASUS, MSI and the others. After pissing off Apple, Sony and to some degree M$, now they fuck the AIBs, I wonder how many Novideo has to annoy before it comes back to bite them in the ass.


a3585b  No.15458014

>>15455314

Nice, might get one if it's under 1k


aec696  No.15460849

>>15448612

if you drop all the settings sure, not even the 1080 Ti can do 2160p 60 FPS at max settings. inb4 don't play at max settings, not everyone wants to settle for less.


e839b8  No.15462117

File: ab67a0965f1ee15⋯.png (230.3 KB, 940x849, 940:849, mordecai_y_rigby_by_akane_….png)

>>15460849

>not everyone wants to settle for less.

Yeah, anon, not everybody wants to fuck your mom.

WOOOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!


baf684  No.15462135

>>15448595

any reason for me to have more than

>3GB lol

of vram yet?


ee4101  No.15462136

>>15453500

JESUS CHRIST FUCKING HOW????


4a029e  No.15466135


77a4c6  No.15467589

lol now the cards are delayed to after the 27th

i reckon cunts wont see these until next year


485c3a  No.15467630

>>15462135

Do you do any custom 3D modeling/rendering of video files?


77a4c6  No.15467636

on the topic of vram these cards are so shit at 4k they didnt even bother releasing the 16 32 48gb version lol


261274  No.15468189

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15453529

Fucking jesus the card is GLUED TOGETHER


c9a435  No.15468220

>>15468189

The card is not glued together. The cooler is glued together. You can get the cooler and the backplate off the card just fine, but the cooler itself cannot be disassembled without using a heat gun to loosen/pry a metal plate that is glued to the cooler. The reason this is bad is because maintenance of the cooler becomes more difficult than it needs to be.

You can ditch Nvidia's glued-together cooler altogether and put another air cooler or even a waterblock onto the card if you wanted. Partner cards (not Founder edition) will have different cooler designs that may not have the cooler glued together thus will be more easily maintained.


d18ac7  No.15468226

>>15468220

So if you want to fully clean the dust out of the thing it'll take a heat gun now? Or is that accessible without it?


c9a435  No.15468237

File: b59f32b53efbb14⋯.png (3.6 MB, 2560x1165, 512:233, PCB.png)

File: fa40a2e99c3729a⋯.png (2.04 MB, 2086x1152, 1043:576, cooler.png)

>>15467589

I heard it was only the 2080 Ti. Supplies are being snatched up so fast that some deliveries are delayed. Deliveries now go out on the 20th to 27th instead of being definitely the 20th. So a lot of the "FIRST!" fags may very well get their preorder a week later.

>>15468226

Pic1 is the card (PCB). No glue here. You can take everything off this by just undoing screws and you can even put a different cooler onto this. Pic2 is the dual-axial air cooler on the Founders Edition with a heat gun pointed at the top metal plate which is glued to the cooler. This plate must be removed to access screws underneath and disassemble the cooler. Otherwise you would not be able to replace the fans should they break and you wouldn't be able to clean dust out of it as well. Still possible to just blow the dust out if it doesn't get too bad, but anything really stuck in there you'd have to disassemble the cooler and use a toothbrush or something. Majority of people are probably just going to blow it out with canned air rather than taking it apart to clean it.


934bfa  No.15468239

File: 930dde26333a5c5⋯.webm (2.15 MB, 854x480, 427:240, AAAAAAAAAAAA.webm)

FUCKING DEVS WILL USE "RAYTRACING" AS A FUCKING EXCUSE TO MAKE SHADOWS AND REFLECTIONS LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT UNLESS YOU USE THEIR MEMETRACING. WE USED TO HAVE PERFECT REFLECTIONS AND SHADOWS SINCE 2012 BUT SOMEHOW WE NEED RAYTRACING TO MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD NOW BECAUSE DUDE TECHNOLOGY LMAO XXDD

PLS GOY BUY GOOD NVIDIA GRAFIX CARD FOR ONLY $2000 BEST PRICE GOOD PERFORMANCE BESTEST GRAPHICS EVER GUARANTEED

RAY TRACE IS TRULY THE FUTURE WE CANNOT HAVE GOOD SHADOWS AND REFLECTIONS WITHOUT IT :^) PLS IGNORE CRYSIS 1, 2 AND 3 WHICH HAD PERFECT REFLECTIONS AND SHADOWS HAHA


c9a435  No.15468247

File: a90b90ad4aded14⋯.gif (2.76 MB, 796x270, 398:135, fear_VS_infinite.gif)

>>15468239

>WE USED TO HAVE PERFECT REFLECTIONS AND SHADOWS SINCE 2012

Not really, developer laziness ruined lighting long ago.

>DEVS WILL USE "RAYTRACING" AS A FUCKING EXCUSE TO MAKE SHADOWS AND REFLECTIONS LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT

Raytracing provides an easier way for lazy devs to get realistic lighting without putting effort into time-consuming tricks so of course they're going to use it. For devs it's a blessing, a git gud lighting quick scheme, a useful crutch. For us you'll see far better lighting than if you had relied on lazy fuck devs to do it well using the old methods, but only if you have an RTX card and Windows 10. Meanwhile, the old non-RTX methods of lighting may likely become even lazier on PC, but those methods are still needed for consoles so don't expect them to go away any time soon.


195868  No.15468262

File: c53df876064620c⋯.jpg (456.23 KB, 1021x765, 1021:765, sed-1l.jpg)

File: a3f5a47167dab8c⋯.gif (243.52 KB, 2572x1756, 643:439, Surface conducting electro….gif)

>>15449053

>oh yeah because 1kg 50" 8k 244hz crt's where around the corner.


561f66  No.15468292

>>15462136

Diversity hires. Meritocracy is dead.


cb314e  No.15468866

>>15468262

If they allowed SEDs to live, they wouldn't need to upgrade every year because SEDs are flawless. LCDs are perfect because they're inherently shitty and cheap to make.


77a4c6  No.15469068

New nvidiot rtxxx info

>metro exodus runs at 1080p 20-60fps with only rt ao and gi (lighting)

>literally cant see the difference

>needs a 1200usd+ gpu to look slightly better inside for a 250% performance cost

Hmmm 4k 60fps+ or 1080p 30fps with rtx on

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

yeah nah i think ill stick with my 1080 fuck this shit

>only 3 rays per pixel

>doesnt work on alpha effects like leaves and grass

lol

o

l

cant wait for the downgrades!

https://youtu.be/lRO_BbrHFkQ


934bfa  No.15469128

>>15469068

>all the subhumans in the comments defending memetracing and getting hyped over a really bad and uninspired stalker clone

I wish people had higher standards and were a lot more nitpicky. They get hyped over mediocre visuals every year and they love to circlejerk around shitty new technology which's sole purpose was to scam them. Anyone who thinks memetracing is currently needed or even looks good deserved the firing squad.


77a4c6  No.15469147

>>15469128

I thought a4 where ex stalker devs?

>reading comments

>on df

Why?


934bfa  No.15469163

>>15469147

>ex stalker devs

Every Russian and Ukrainian dev loves to claim he's an ex-Stalker dev but most of them are not. Some are, but their games still suck and Exodus is a blatant attempt at copying stalker. The hacks even added anomalies straight in the game in the hopes of attracting the stalker crowd. Combat is trash as usual and the only thing they do right is making it somewhatatmospheric

>reading comments on df, why?

I ask myself the same thing, I need to stop reading youtube comments in general, everytime they make my blood boil. Humanity truly is braindead. With everyday I believe more and more in the authenticity of the NPC theory.


177592  No.15469166

>>15469147

4a, and yeah they did the old oblivion lost stuff (not the mod.) they're seriously lacking as developers, however. The quality of their output has been very low, releasing only garbage.

also the df retro comment sections are good, and df retro is the best thing DF does.


77a4c6  No.15469171

That's disappointing I liked metro last light when it came out but I thought 2033 sucked


934bfa  No.15469209

File: 15719626f9c766c⋯.png (1.64 MB, 1274x715, 98:55, PHOTOSCANNED HD PARALAX PH….png)

TRUE HD NEXT-GEN PHOTOREALISTIC MIND-BLOWING TEXTURES, WASTING $2000 FOR A GPU WAS SURE WORTH IT

I know of 2007 games with sharper and more detailed textures Jesus fucking Christ. Why do modern games use muddy textures rather than sharp ones?

>anon, it's just motion blur

No it isn't, go to 2:08 and see for yourself


934bfa  No.15469215


721ae0  No.15469285

>>15469209

>why does background geometry use low res textures

Truly a mystery.


934bfa  No.15469434

>>15469285

>place you can look at from a close distance

<background

Imagine being this delusional


614573  No.15469718

File: 2d1aaa739fecf5e⋯.png (419.13 KB, 680x704, 85:88, 2d1aaa739fecf5e3cd12dde506….png)

>>15469209

>>15469068

Totally worth paying a thousand bucks in a gpu and buying the newest titles of the game industry.

END THIS


721ae0  No.15469781

>>15469434

The answer to your question is that is a background asset you're not supposed to get that close to. The problem is obviously that whatever retard made that scripted encounter has you raised up to it where you won't be during regular gameplay. I'm not defending how it looks, especially when the rest of whatever game it is looks dull as fuck, but your generalization is retarded.


934bfa  No.15469847

>>15469781

Nigger even without the cutscene you can still walk in that same area and look at it's absolute muddy ugliness from 2-3 meters away. It is an abhorrent asset with bad textures and is used in places the player has full access to.

>your generalization is retarded

All modern games have muddy textures with very few exceptions. It's not a generalization, it is a fact.


d18ac7  No.15470062

>>15469781

Shouldn't telemetry tell the devs that playtesters encountered low res textures, or is telemetry just for spying?


721ae0  No.15470076

>>15470062

Well any sort of QA should've told them the script was triggerable next to cliffs and it looks like shit when the player is up in the air.


64122a  No.15470545

>>15469068

All Metro games are nothing but glorified tech demos to showcase Novideos proprietary technology,you have to wonder if the first two games sold so poorly were are they getting them moneys for the third one hmm…

>>15469128

>>15469163

Hey goyem, reytreicing its the new best thing to come right next to physx, tessellation, hairworks and gay-sync, get hyped.

>>15469209

Gotta have those muddy texture to achieve them 1080p 60fps with RTX on, look at them shadows its mind blowing, fuck high rez texture.


421f26  No.15470579

File: 17106ab6cf24f2b⋯.jpg (98.01 KB, 344x359, 344:359, Half_in_the_Bag_Episode_13….jpg)

>>15455314

Are those fucking floppy ass, gauge ear holes?


d0727a  No.15470649

>>15470545

Makes sense

>>15469171

Because the rtx 2080ti only has 11gb of vram and probably needs most of it for this rt shit

Most gpus only have 3 6 and 8gb these days as well so designing textures around 5 year old gpus and consoles tend to lead to this muddy ass looking textures

Then you have games like shadow of the tomb raider and rise where they have great textures but no current videocards has the memory to run them at 4k or even 2k

I can't recall then video memory size has stayed the same for so long we still haven't gone beyond 12gb in videocards designed for games.

Amd save us from this hell 7nm soon


ea0409  No.15470662

File: 6fd4fd5b2d4ce74⋯.jpg (67.88 KB, 400x392, 50:49, 6fd4fd5b2d4ce7423ebfebb5ee….jpg)

>PUBG RTX


d0727a  No.15470680

>>15470662

Isn't it only dlaa? Find it hilarious they couldn't even get ue4 built in taa to work after 2 years lol

Games deqd as fuck no Aussies playing it anymore thank fuck


3b8380  No.15470719

>>15468247

I don't want games being made by lazy devs that require $799 GPUs to look good, not to mention whatever the cost of a Gsync monitor is.

>>15470579

Yes it is just as disgusting as you think it is.


9b01fe  No.15470919

>>15460849

I always have graphics maxed and I've been using 970 for years.

Graphics cards are a meme


77a4c6  No.15470954

>>15470719

The 2080ti is 1000usd+ tho it will never be sold at that 800usd retail because nvidias greedy


6f8336  No.15471013

where should I look for cheap graphics cards after the 27th? ebay? craigslist?


77a4c6  No.15471827

>>15471013

Local pc forums and groups

Get a 1080ti at least


a3907c  No.15472394

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15454570

>>15449053

>>15453500

>>15469128

>>15469209

The big problem is that there's no longer a significant difference between medium and max settings (or for a lot of modern games, min and medium settings).

Unlike in the old days when PC games were designed both to function on much weaker machines with severe graphical compromises, and to push max settings far beyond any commercially available hardware for future-proofing, range of settings are now pretty much all the same, with your only real "ultra" option being "try to run a PS4 port at 1440p144".


77a4c6  No.15472425

>>15472394

yep, plus modern tech makes rt pretty much poitnless


a3907c  No.15472446

>>15472425

The problem with nVidia's RT isn't that RT is pointless, but that nVidia is using it for lame hybrid graphics with polygonal geometry. There are innumerable massive benefits to dumping Gouraud rasterization and switching to a fully RT pipeline, but nVidia isn't doing that. Hopefully AMD (or Intel, given their past experiments with Larabee/Xeon Phi) will do that, though.


77a4c6  No.15472607

>>15472446

RT in its current form is totally useless

>cards too slow and expensive to even do any of the effects at 1440p 100fps+ that people expect these days

until they can completely ditch raster i am not interested hybrid solutions with only shadows/reflections/ao and or GI is just a joke


83bd4f  No.15472632

>>15470649

>only have 3 6 and 8gb these days as well so designing textures around 5 year old gpus and consoles tend to lead to this muddy ass looking textures

4GB Vram is more than enough. The problem lies 100% with the developers being absolute worthless talentless uninspired hacks.

>shadow of the tomb raider and rise where they have great textures

No, their textures are mediocre.


a3907c  No.15472732

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15472607

nVidia is unquestionably sandbagging hard, since the tiny cellphone PowerVR GPUs back in 2016 had an RTRT block (from a tiny company called Caustic Graphics they bought back in 2010) with basically identical performance to nVidia's RTX silicon (which is an outgrowth of the full-scene "OptiX" true RTRT nVidia has been working on since at least 2008) in their highest-end workstation GPUs. Given the massive total silicon budget nVidia & AMD have, a GPU seriously dedicated to RTRT would probably yield dozens of times the performance.


77a4c6  No.15472755

>>15472732

Yeah I found that pretty interesting but the industry aint ready for full rt yet.

As for sandbagging absolutely


3b8380  No.15473507

File: 88b6b26581ea41a⋯.png (208.04 KB, 854x643, 854:643, SAME PERFORMANCE.png)

CUCKS WHO PRE-ORDERED BLOWN THE FUCK OUT E T E R N A L Y


bbfa8e  No.15473637

>>15451684

Review embargoes have to be one of the most jewish things I've ever heard of and I can't believe normalfags stand for this shit. What is even the official justification for such blatantly consumer-unfriendly practices?


af441a  No.15473772

>>15448595

Serious Sam 4 joins the pirate list then. Let's be honest, every game on the list is confirmed to be sold by jews. If have to sell your soul to join nvidia's side.


1b6c5c  No.15473944

>>15473507

>picking only one game

>not showing the pity 10-30% increase

>for 50-60% more money


a3907c  No.15474664

>>15473637

Allowing people to write decent reviews, having actually tested the product to a reasonably extensive degree. There would be zero problem with review embargoes if preorders didn't exist.


b7ddc9  No.15475180

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Steve is streaming, wew, not looking great


b7ddc9  No.15475381

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Not good, wait for 7nm. Buy another 1080ti if you have to.


a3907c  No.15475406

>>15475381

Has Vulkan/DX12 unfucked CFX/SLI?


d0918f  No.15475474

>>15475406

completely the opposite, SLI and crossfire don't work at all on DX12 or Vulkan games unless the developer has implemented it themselves, because that's how it works with DX12 and Vulkan


cec7e2  No.15475478

>>15475406

vulkan

no, lmao

dx12 is rebranded mantle

so no


d0918f  No.15475518

>>15455449

>implying human binocular vision isn't literally almost exactly 16:9

>>15475478

vulkan is rebranded mantle (that's why "vulkan", after Vulcan, the roman god of volcanoes and fire and magma)

DX12 was based on mantle but is significantly different, and it uses DirectX semantics where vulkan is more similar to OpenGL owing to its association with the khronos group

the dumbest shit is that there is no reason for any of the games that are using them to use vulkan or DX12. the benefit is that they can drastically reduce the number of draw calls required in a complex scene but basically all of the games using vulkan and DX12 are consolized AAA linear shooter garbage that runs completely fine on DX11 and gains nothing from vulkan

the games that need these new APIs are your big open world games because it would allow them to include massively greater detail (i.e. 100x the grass detail and distance) without bogging down like GTA V does when you head out into the mountains. but none of those games are using them yet. fucking stupid


78b2f3  No.15475962

bros how long will a 970 last me? Will AMD save me? I bought a ryzen 2nd gen and its fucking great


11e49c  No.15476038

>We won't know if RTX is worth it until we find out how much better RTX games run on RTX cards and how many games take advantage of these features.

>Most of these games won't be out for 6-12 months.

>New cards will probably be right around the corner by then.

So skip this generation of cards pretty much? Am I misreading anything?


d46a33  No.15476205

>>15475518

It's good that it's becoming a standard, regardless. The more people use Vulkan, the more likely it is that games that would see great benefits from using Vulkan will actually use it. Even emulators are starting to use it Not PCSX2 tho


dd8154  No.15476303

>>15451709

AMD already has real time raytracing on thier radeon pro cards


d46a33  No.15476308

>>15476303

At the same level of performance? Do you have benchmarks?


77a4c6  No.15476364

>>15476038

Yep skip them

Also they will be absolute junk as soon as 7nm mcm amd stuff comes out AND nvidias own 7nm mcm stuff in 202x

Not much is coming out next year except maybe a 7nm vega with 1080ti perf

if you have a 970-1080ti and its still working there is no point

These cards are completely rushed and for a 80% price increase for a 30% perf increase when OVERCLOCKED and alot less stock for stock vs oc aib pascal its just not worth it.

the gtx turing series up to 2060 will be more interesting imho as it wont have that fuck hueg die useless rt ai cores etc

>>15475381

based linus

>>15475180

steve said the same thing and goes into a lot more detail oc etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUM_eINGUl4

https://youtu.be/PpDG13PrNPg

wasnt expecting any of these guys to shit on nvidia this hard but as ive been saying for months its literally just volta but worse


b7ddc9  No.15476377

File: 19db36d7f73a343⋯.jpg (132.32 KB, 888x433, 888:433, Screenshot_20180623-192125….jpg)

>>15476364

>Volta but worse

Pretty much, you have to damn near break the fucking thing to make it surpass volta, and even then, it's not something for daily use or recommended for OC.

https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/timespy+3dmark+score+extreme+preset/version+1.0/1+gpu


dd8154  No.15476378

File: f8bb85036961641⋯.png (31.59 KB, 664x800, 83:100, AMD-Radeon-ProRender-Autod….png)


11e49c  No.15476380

I heard their new version of SLI actually pools together VRAM from the cards now among other things. Will this mean a second GPU will actually be worth the purchase in the future. Instead of just upgrading to a new card?


dd8154  No.15476389

>>15476303

Plus AMD ProRender doesn't need deadicated hardware, instead it use the GPU and CPU to draw raytraced scenes


77a4c6  No.15476409

>>15476377

Such a dumb card

$1400 for a absolutely zero new features and maybe 60fps at 4k with shit low fps no better than 2 year old pascal

>>15476380

Nope i reckon it will still be by a game by game basis and GUESS WHAT its not working at launch

>>15476378

7nm is gonna be dope on vega


dd8154  No.15476425

>>15476378

This was from the previous version of AMD Radeon ProRender amd AMD announce Real time raytracing was annouced to AMD ProRender 21th march at CDG


77a4c6  No.15476431

>>15476425

Oh good so early days then

Gonna be hilarious amd switch vegas prim shaders and all the other sekrit sauce tech on like they did with older GCN back in the day

7nm here we cum!!!!!!!!!!!!!


b7ddc9  No.15476447

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Price to Performance video, save this one, it's got good data.


11e49c  No.15476459

>>15476409

>GUESS WHAT its not working at launch

That sucks but I meant down the line I'm probably not buying a new card until 2019 or 2020. Unless I come into a bunch of cash somehow. I might buy a 1080TI if the prices get low enough because my 970 is not cutting it anymore with my 2560x1440 monitor.


77a4c6  No.15476474

>>15476459

2020 7nm turing and 7nm vega/navi will be mainstream mate your literally just better off skipping them not even worth getting used or cheap new


11e49c  No.15476549

>>15476474

By cheap enough I meant 200-300$ CAD which isn't fucking happening until 2020 or king leaf gets thrown out.


77a4c6  No.15476562

>>15476549

ausfag here i feel your pain they want $1900aud for a 2080ti founders here

honestly 1080ti's are dropping to $600 here used just go get one of those


77a4c6  No.15476833

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/44036/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-gaming-x-trio

lol 1500 for a card thats slower than a 800 new 1080ti and a 500 used one


b7ddc9  No.15476890

File: ba06cb9272c4421⋯.jpg (151.45 KB, 885x725, 177:145, Screenshot_20180620-162956….jpg)

>>15476833

>It's not even a 2080 Ti

Mein gut.


3b8380  No.15477423

>>15476409

>$1400 for a absolutely zero new features

Woah there anon, raytracing


a3907c  No.15477454

>>15475474

https://www.pcgamesn.com/ashes-of-the-singularity/directx-12s-cross-brand-multi-gpu-capability-tested-nvidia-and-amd-cards-now-work-together-in-harmony

So the new APIs provide vastly faster and more flexible multi-GPU, but only if devs actually implement it, which in spite of increasing demands from 4k120Hz, basically none do. Fug.

>>15476303

Reminder all implementations of RTRT include shader-based paths that will run on AMD and non-RTX nVidia alike. Furthermore, according to nVidia & MS themselves, the RTRT silicon on RTX only increases DXR API performance by 2-3x:

https://www.techpowerup.com/242504/microsoft-releases-directx-raytracing-nvidia-volta-based-rtx-adds-real-time-capability


084ca6  No.15477502

>>15470662

It is a disaster waiting to happen, they can't even properly optimize their regular game. It will be funny to watch PUBG in RTX mode running at sub 15 fps on a 2080 Ti.


77a4c6  No.15477566

>>15477423

In a year or so lol there are no games that fully support it.

Not even patched in its only small stuff like ao shadows or lighting

Realtime reflections run like absolute ass


c9a435  No.15477616

File: 654e63f44b3efe8⋯.jpg (241.71 KB, 1062x1500, 177:250, Rainbow Mika buttslap.jpg)

File: 0cb86c8534100b8⋯.jpg (291.35 KB, 1250x1500, 5:6, R Mika attack.jpg)

File: 491f06e00fbe1a0⋯.jpg (182.26 KB, 850x1375, 34:55, Mika.jpg)

File: db7665406569ddb⋯.png (963.36 KB, 711x900, 79:100, mika mirror.png)

The verdict is in:

RTX 2080

<is essentially a 1080 Ti

<not worth the money

<just buy a 1080 Ti if you want that level of performance

RTX 2080 Ti

>actual performance improvement

<still costs way too much

Nvidia can kiss my ass. Not even worth considering RTX until those prices come down and by then the next big thing will probably be on the market.


77a4c6  No.15477636

>>15477616

based braap poster

can we get some more thicc braap porn?


11475f  No.15477821

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15477616

Where are the numbers m8

How many fps and 3dmarks do you get on this demo comparing those cards?


b7ddc9  No.15477832

File: 90710fa573b9f10⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 15.82 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 90710fa573b9f1032ab014e0c….webm)


8009d3  No.15479901

I AM ANGRY

ANGRY ABOUT NVIDIA


ee4101  No.15481295

>>15468239

>>15468239

>>15468239

i too burn with fury


006c62  No.15492828

>>15448595

Buy AMD then faggot.


950ba3  No.15496296

>>15468239

Thing is that this isn't even real raytracing. If it were then you wouldn't need normal maps, specular ect as the rays handle all of that. This is why the games with raytracing will look identical to games running without it because they're the same art assets. Whereas Raytracing is supposed to be a workflow change, not so much a rendering one.

To me its all just really lazy.


de1eb7  No.15496323

File: 9789d7a9a152b6c⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 5.74 MB, 720x480, 3:2, BRAP Queen.webm)


f7dd93  No.15496438

File: 12c645a68dd05b8⋯.jpg (658.8 KB, 1080x2220, 18:37, Screenshot_20180618-191425….jpg)

Don't mind me, just waiting on DDR5 and 7nm. Saving up for black friday too.

We've already plateaued this generation to the point of diminishing returns, made it this far, might as well wait for the beginning of the next one and be the first in line for new tech.


77a4c6  No.15496500

https://youtu.be/eZgX4EfIiXc

Apart from reflections rtx is basically a useless shitty solution with a tonne of noise (grainy lighting shadows etc due to low raytrace sample count)

Based tech jesus shitting on nvidiots

Your meme deep learning aa is also a joke!


b7ddc9  No.15496504

>>15496500

Steve a qt


77a4c6  No.15496531

File: ef39682d136153f⋯.png (817.83 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)


b7ddc9  No.15496553

>>15496531

P r e c i o u s


77a4c6  No.15496576

File: b6a5655709ea3b1⋯.gif (2.24 MB, 480x366, 80:61, braaap.gif)


77a4c6  No.15496610

>>15477821

lol it even has frame drops in their own demo


000000  No.15496667

Kek it's like another memorygate

<but muh gaytrace!

Yeah, all those games that support it such as uhh…ummm… UHHH


b7ddc9  No.15496670

>>15496666




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