77a4c6 No.15448595
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-rtx-2080-official-gaming-performance/
So the bullshit continues more bullshit graphs and games that aint coming out for a year or more and have to have rtx support patched in and usually only AI AA meme ao, shadows etc
WOW $1200-1500usd for this shit
77a4c6 No.15448612
meanwhile a 1080ti is 1/4 of the price used and does 4k 60hz
181ca9 No.15448633
>>15448612
And a 1060 is half the price of a 1080 and does 60fps @1080p
Gaming is in a fucking rut, make no mistake.
e93266 No.15448637
>>15448612
you find me a 1080ti for 300 and i'll suck you off
fcf8c9 No.15448638
>>15448595
It's not even 7nm either, apparently.
77a4c6 No.15448642
>>15448633
they where going for like 500aud here as well lol
nvidia has a 300k glut of unused pascal gpus
>>15448637
wait till next month every retailer will try to unload them and miners have already dumped all their rx480-1060 gear
77a4c6 No.15448643
>>15448638
well nvidia has 7nm planned for 2020 and mcm for 202x
ee4101 No.15448646
>>15448595
>novidya flagship card can't even hit 60fps in its raytracing tech for a game premiering it
d18ac7 No.15448653
>>15448612
It's a meaningless statement without knowing /what/ at 4k 60hz. Even a GTX 950 can do 4k@60 for something as it's HDMI 2.0. Nvidia's taking advantage of people not being able to grasp that in graph #1 and has just normalized the RTX 2080 at the 4k@60 line so paid journalists can echo this as "4k 60fps now possible thanks to Nvidia(tm) RTX!"
177592 No.15448656
>>15448646
buy the $800 gsync monitor and it'll be buttery smooth :^)
fcf8c9 No.15448657
>>15448643
Yeah, but Apple is just about to start shipping with 7nm processors in the new iPhone. It's here in full force, and AMD is going to come sweep the floor with their benchmarks as long as Nvidia doesn't purposefully ensure that all the newest games run like shit on AMD. Yeah, maybe they're not so fucked after all.
e808c8 No.15448693
4k is a meme
1080p@144fps > 60 fps anything
77a4c6 No.15448701
>>15448693
fuck off screenlet at 27-40+ inch screen sizes 1080p looks like ass
e808c8 No.15448706
>>15448701
Go back to cuckchan
22b86d No.15448709
>>15448633
I can't wait for my 1060 to flat out stop working with games when they force me to update my drivers!
Oh wait, that's already happening
77a4c6 No.15448714
>>15448706
>cuckchan
fuck off back to resetera faggot i have a 29" screen 1080p and it looks like ass even when i downsampled 4k
485c3a No.15448737
>There's still barely any games that squeak any practical use out of being 4k or reasonably make use of that resolution
>Even excluding the retardation of Font and UI scaling in the HD ERA most games are functionally full of necessary visual information at fucking 600p
>Nvidia wants $1200 for a card when AMD is violating them in production level graphics processing
>The one thing they might have on anyone else at this point is Graphics libraries designed to cripple even their own GPUs
The Absolute State of NVIDIA.
>The way it's meant to be paid
d3aaa4 No.15448738
>>15448693
>he cant even 2k
485c3a No.15448739
>>15448709
Why the fuck are you using stock nvidia drivers?
d18ac7 No.15448749
>>15448706
>muh fist-sized pixels for the comfy couch
You're 1 ft away from a PC monitor. You can't go much bigger than 18" without most of the pixels being deep in the low sensitivity region of your peripheral vision.
c9a435 No.15448790
>>15448693
>not 1440p@165Hz
4K is stupid demanding though. With two 1080 Ti in SLI The Witcher 3 maxed out would only hit between 70-80 fps so I dunno what the fuck they think those 4K HDR 144Hz monitors are for if you can't even run at that resolution and framerate. Also HDR causes an additional performance hit in most titles. The lack of multi-GPU support in so many games is another nail in the coffin for performance at 4K.
It's too bad they're pushing raytracing more than anything else with little to no focus on NVlink as multi-GPU is going to be necessary for the high refresh 4K monitors they've promoted and given the massive performance hit caused by real-time raytracing you'll need multi-GPU just to use raytracing on anything higher than 1080p.
It's all a moot point if the prices never come down and I don't see why they would since they overproduced the 10 series for mining and now have to price the 20 series high as fuck just to keep people buying the overstocked 10 series.
177592 No.15448795
>>15448790
>165hz
wow it sure is 2002 in here
c9a435 No.15448796
>>15448795
We're bringing it back, Dante.
177592 No.15448839
>>15448796
LCDs really did hold back display technology for 15 years. How horrifying.
77a4c6 No.15449053
>>15448656
wowe 25-45 fps on a $1200usd gpu i feel so privileged
>>15448795
>tinyass crt
sigh
>>15448839
oh yeah because 1kg 50" 8k 244hz crt's where around the corner.
Do you not remember the clusterfuck that was Rear Projection HD CRT tv's ?
Do you not remember phorphor decay, static, EMR and HUEG weight? Also having to regas vac and other fiddly shit?
CRT's where a huge pain in the ass and its true while we wont see sub 1ms response times most idiots dont care, sure i still notice even on meme oled displays and shit but most people dont especially with modern motion blur ironing out most of the visual kinks in movies and games
normalfags and normal fags are just gonna keep pushing the resolution up with little reguard for pixel response times and shit like display latency
Look at HDMI ffs everyone still uses it and its almost 15 years old at this point
https://www.blurbusters.com/forget-8k-how-about-a-100-inch-16k-s-uhd-tv/
>16k 100" display
>meanwhile gpus cant even do 4k 60hz and cost $2000+ to realistically achieve it (2x2080ti nvlinked) 8k 30fps is out of the question for next gen consoles
Dunno how they are gonan sell this gay shit
9d8d53 No.15451684
>>15448595
>Nvidia has review embargos on a fucking GPU that is only competing with their own GPUs while only releasing "information" drawn in paint.
Its gonna be shit, isnt it ? I sure fucking hope this generation crashes and burns.
3ad7b3 No.15451709
>>15448657
>as long as Nvidia doesn't purposefully ensure that all the newest games run like shit on AMD.
What do you think this raytracing shit is?
The whole point is if AMD releases faster hardware, Nvidia and their paid for tech can just go
>well AMD doesn't support raytracing so buy Nvidia!
or
>well AMD runs poorly in raytracing so buy nvidia
Whenever Nvidia pulls this shit where they go
>oh hey look at our cool new feature it'll change everything!
>oh no you can't review the card how you want!~
>you have to sign this NDA here if you want a card!
they have a turd and they're trying to cover up the stench with some gay gimmicks everyone will forget about in 5 years.
a5ec9e No.15451736
>>15451709
>>well AMD doesn't support raytracing so buy Nvidia!
>or
>>well AMD runs poorly in raytracing so buy nvidia
I don't think that's gonna work this time around. It doesn't look like ray tracing is going to be that popular among normalfags and people will be content with ray tracing just being off. Besides, games are going to support both raytracing mode on and off so it's not going to matter too much.
54f561 No.15451775
>>15448595
>All these games that already run like shit are going to have their performance destroyed even harder by raytracing
9d8d53 No.15451788
>>15451709
this may turn out pretty bad for them. Consumers buy Nvidia when they see benchmarks comparing both brands directly and see that NV is X% faster, and if AMD cant do raytracing then you have to make the comparison without raytracing, thus making their gimmick obsolete. If you enable it on NV then their performance tanks and the test favors AMD.
After all, you cant run realtime raytracing on a normal GPU in any acceptable way as of right now.
Raytracing isnt like 3D acceleration where everything else becomes obsolete. Its the Hairworks of lighting, and while that looks cool, its not like other GPUs cant do normal reflections. Pic related does not raytrace anything.
3b8380 No.15451832
Will already existing games or franchises benefit from thr coming RTX?
Is RTX just a gimmick?
If it IS just a gimmick to sell hardware, will Nvidia support developers with drivers and game developers with raytraicing implementation?
Will Cyberpunk 2077 have raytracing?
when is cyberpunk 2077 coming out?
b7ddc9 No.15451892
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Gonna wait 6 months for a pricedrop or a new, better card.
b7ddc9 No.15451901
>>15451832
By itself, it's not a gimmick, but with how Nvidia executes it. It IS a gimmick.
http://archive.is/8AytY
Anyways, it's apparently 50% better goy.
3b8380 No.15451912
>>15451901
50% better than what? there's no benchmarks to compare them to anything
3ad7b3 No.15451915
>>15451788
It'll be just like PhysX. I'm pretty sure Nvidia will let raytracing work on AMD hardware, but it won't be properly accelerated.
Remember all the bullshit they did with PhysX? That's coming again.
>>15451736
I think Nvidia is going to have a more difficult time pushing their bullshit. They have squandered a lot of good will by doing things like lying about a card being 4GB when it's actually 3.5GB, their linux bullshit, spyware in the drivers, hurting performance of old cards in new drivers, etc. People are slowly turning on Nvidia, though there will always be vocal, low IQ fanboys who think that this will revolution everything. And they'll probably completely misrepresent the whole thing
<dude Nvidia has raytracing now the whole scene is raytraced it's like nothing I've ever seen before it's literally Toy Story graphics in real time!!
>>15451901
It is a gimmick when it's bullshit raytracing with results so bad you have to add a billion different shitty filters to make it look decent.
b7ddc9 No.15451918
>>15451912
Exactly.
>>15451788
Describes it perfectly.
3ad7b3 No.15451931
>>15451912
use your imagination goy!
953c5e No.15451941
>>15448739
>Why the fuck are you using stock nvidia drivers?
Because the other ones are a majority hush hush sekrit klub bullshit that offer no benifits other than not being made by nvidia
b7ddc9 No.15452018
>>15451941
They're not better I assume?
3b8380 No.15452030
>>15451931
>>15451918
fug
>>15448709
Anon… that's just a rumor :^)
77a4c6 No.15453396
https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-official-performance-unveiled
>has to benchmark 2-4 year old games
>still cant break 100fps+ in older gaems at 4k
gonna wait desu my 1080 doin fine
485c3a No.15453406
>>15452018
When it comes to newer games/emulators, and some render software noveau drivers work better.
77a4c6 No.15453413
https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-official-performance-unveiled
The data we are sharing with you today comes from official Reviewers’ Guide. The numbers in this guide are only a reference for further benchmarking. It is probably an important thing to say that those numbers should not be taken very seriously. Each reviewer has a different testing methodology (different scenario, different testing equipment, a different list of games).
The graphs are based on values (framerate/scores) provided by NVIDIA for their recommended titles. Yes, the word recommended is rather important here too.
In GeForce RTX reviewer’s guide, NVIDIA is not using any other resolution than 4K. So all benchmarks (except VRMark Cyan Room) were performed at 3840×2160 resolution. In fact, the RTX 2080 series were ‘designed for 4K’, as the document claims.
NVIDIA reference system includes: X299 Rampage VI Apex, Core i9-7900X 3.3 GHz, Corsair 16GB DDR4 (no frequency specified), Windows 10 (v1803), NVIDIA 411.38 drivers.
>>15453396
oops forgot source
DirectX 12 Games
Battlefield 1 – Ultra Preset
Hitman – Highest Settings
Shadow of the Tomb Raider – Very High Preset, TAA
Star Wars: Battlefront II – Ultra Preset
DirectX 11 Games
Call of Duty: WWII – Render Resolution: Native, Pre-T2X Resolution: Native, Post Process AA: Filmic SMAA T2x, Texture Resolution: Extra, Normal Map Resolution: Extra, Specular Map Resolution: Extra, Sky Resolution: Normal, Shader Preload: On, Anisotropic Filtering: High, Shadows: On, Shadow Map Resolution: Extra, Shadow Depth: High, Screen Space Shadows: Always On, Screen Space Reflections: High, Cache Sun Shadow Maps: On, Depth of Field: High, Motion Blur: High Quality, Screen Space Ambient Occlusion: Hemo AO, Medium Distance Ambient Occlusion: On, Surface Scattering: On
F1 2018 – Ultra Preset, TAA, AF: 16x
Mass Effect: Andromeda – Ultra Preset
Middle-earth: Shadow of War – Ultra Preset
PlayerUknown’s Battlegrounds – Ultra Preset
Rainbow Six Siege – Ultra Preset
The Witcher 3 – Ultra Preset
Vulkan Games
Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus – Mein leben Preset
DirectX 12 Synthetic Benchmarks
3DMark – Timespy Extreme
VRMark – Cyan Room
77a4c6 No.15453440
>80% price increase for 30-50perf
yeah great math nvidia
e3fa00 No.15453500
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15453396
>Mass Effect: Andromeda barely gets over 60 with new cutting edge graphics hardware.
Worst optimization in history confirmed.
b7ddc9 No.15453505
>>15453406
Then why is the other guy saying otherwise? Not being defensive. I want to know.
77a4c6 No.15453521
>>15453500
im more pissed that its such a measily perf increase for the price desu i can see alot of 2019-2020 games not getting 4k 60fps even
c9a435 No.15453529
>>15451608
>struggles to pull the cooler apart for over an hour until giving up
77a4c6 No.15453547
>>15453529
>watching unboxing
c9a435 No.15453573
>>15453396
>>15453440
The general expected increase from 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti, but the price tag is still just insane. TITAN prices for a Ti is retarded. Hopefully it comes down to the "introductory" price, but there's no reason that will happen for a long time.
>>15453547
A teardown is not an unboxing.
77a4c6 No.15453696
>>15453573
yeah even stalwart nvidiots dont wunna pay $1-2k for a gpu lol
77a4c6 No.15454027
Guess everyone is pretty unintested In this gpu lol
485c3a No.15454570
>>15454027
Games are loaded with optimization killing Post Processing effects making hardware performance meaning less and less every year
It doesn't really offer anything that would help workloads for production work
Even if they get game developers to put specific assets and effects in their games to cripple any hardware besides the new gpu the adoption rate would be negligible.
77a4c6 No.15454572
>>15454570
Stop buying shit consoles and pc. Hardware then my 1080 has gotten faster over 2 years
485c3a No.15454577
>>15454572
buddy, I think you don't understand. If we're looking at games themselves arbitrary visual technology and 4k aside game requirements haven't really advanced past mid range hardware .
77a4c6 No.15455042
>>15454577
Post process hardly costs any render time these days as I said your pc is shit and your playing crap games
485c3a No.15455132
>>15455042
Nigger I've got a Threadripper and two 580s, and that's just my primary computer, not my render box.
77a4c6 No.15455143
>>15455132
Hahahahahahah oh wow literally slower then my oc 1080
>thread ripper + xfire 580s
What is this 2017😂
4409e1 No.15455449
>>15448693
>widescreen
>not 4:3, the most natural and comfortable aspect ratio
974be1 No.15455476
I bought a gsync display and an evga 1080ti and saved $600 bucks off the total cost including some credit card rewards kikery and other deals on the display. With the step up program if the new cards are good I can pay the difference and step up to a 2080ti in 90 days of my purchase. So if the new cards are shit I still saved a shit ton of money and worse case I use my savings to pay for the upgrade.
You gotta jew life or else its gonna jew you.
fcd971 No.15455946
>>15448693
4K is good because of pixels, though. The limited amount of pixels in a 1080p screen causes sharp edges that looks like shit without any sort of anti-aliasing.
4K screens, however, can power through with the sheer density of pixels and achieve a great picture without any post-processing requirement.
I'm not saying it's worth buying a meme card and a meme monitor for it yet, wasting 3 thousand dollars so you don't have to use AA is retarded, all I'm saying is that there's a positive side that'll make it worth it once it's at a decent price.
63c80c No.15456537
>>15455946
It'll be gud to emulate penis3 gaems
bc6296 No.15456554
after my 1070ti dies i'm done with vidya. ati is garbage and i don't want to give nvidia my money anymore. they dropped the ball with the shitcoin miners and in good faith should have sold these new gpu with a narrow profit margin. instead they overcharge as an even bigger fuck you when i had to pay fucking $450 for a 1070ti
d18ac7 No.15456720
>>15453573
>Hopefully it comes down to the "introductory" price
I don't think it will. I think the 20x series is being rushed (Ti from day 1, for example) and will be low volume so cost them more. They've likely got the next generation ready faster than expected and don't want to delay.
638cdb No.15456776
>>15456554
Ngreedia raised the prices on RTX line so they dont have to lower the prices on 10 series cards, kikery at its finest. Fun fact about RTX cards, Ngreedia sell their cards to AIBs at MSRP price, the profit margins on custom made cards are shit to the likes of ASUS, MSI and the others. After pissing off Apple, Sony and to some degree M$, now they fuck the AIBs, I wonder how many Novideo has to annoy before it comes back to bite them in the ass.
a3585b No.15458014
>>15455314
Nice, might get one if it's under 1k
aec696 No.15460849
>>15448612
if you drop all the settings sure, not even the 1080 Ti can do 2160p 60 FPS at max settings. inb4 don't play at max settings, not everyone wants to settle for less.
e839b8 No.15462117
>>15460849
>not everyone wants to settle for less.
Yeah, anon, not everybody wants to fuck your mom.
WOOOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
baf684 No.15462135
>>15448595
any reason for me to have more than
>3GB lol
of vram yet?
ee4101 No.15462136
>>15453500
JESUS CHRIST FUCKING HOW????
4a029e No.15466135
77a4c6 No.15467589
lol now the cards are delayed to after the 27th
i reckon cunts wont see these until next year
485c3a No.15467630
>>15462135
Do you do any custom 3D modeling/rendering of video files?
77a4c6 No.15467636
on the topic of vram these cards are so shit at 4k they didnt even bother releasing the 16 32 48gb version lol
261274 No.15468189
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15453529
Fucking jesus the card is GLUED TOGETHER
c9a435 No.15468220
>>15468189
The card is not glued together. The cooler is glued together. You can get the cooler and the backplate off the card just fine, but the cooler itself cannot be disassembled without using a heat gun to loosen/pry a metal plate that is glued to the cooler. The reason this is bad is because maintenance of the cooler becomes more difficult than it needs to be.
You can ditch Nvidia's glued-together cooler altogether and put another air cooler or even a waterblock onto the card if you wanted. Partner cards (not Founder edition) will have different cooler designs that may not have the cooler glued together thus will be more easily maintained.
d18ac7 No.15468226
>>15468220
So if you want to fully clean the dust out of the thing it'll take a heat gun now? Or is that accessible without it?
c9a435 No.15468237
>>15467589
I heard it was only the 2080 Ti. Supplies are being snatched up so fast that some deliveries are delayed. Deliveries now go out on the 20th to 27th instead of being definitely the 20th. So a lot of the "FIRST!" fags may very well get their preorder a week later.
>>15468226
Pic1 is the card (PCB). No glue here. You can take everything off this by just undoing screws and you can even put a different cooler onto this. Pic2 is the dual-axial air cooler on the Founders Edition with a heat gun pointed at the top metal plate which is glued to the cooler. This plate must be removed to access screws underneath and disassemble the cooler. Otherwise you would not be able to replace the fans should they break and you wouldn't be able to clean dust out of it as well. Still possible to just blow the dust out if it doesn't get too bad, but anything really stuck in there you'd have to disassemble the cooler and use a toothbrush or something. Majority of people are probably just going to blow it out with canned air rather than taking it apart to clean it.
934bfa No.15468239
FUCKING DEVS WILL USE "RAYTRACING" AS A FUCKING EXCUSE TO MAKE SHADOWS AND REFLECTIONS LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT UNLESS YOU USE THEIR MEMETRACING. WE USED TO HAVE PERFECT REFLECTIONS AND SHADOWS SINCE 2012 BUT SOMEHOW WE NEED RAYTRACING TO MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD NOW BECAUSE DUDE TECHNOLOGY LMAO XXDD
PLS GOY BUY GOOD NVIDIA GRAFIX CARD FOR ONLY $2000 BEST PRICE GOOD PERFORMANCE BESTEST GRAPHICS EVER GUARANTEED
RAY TRACE IS TRULY THE FUTURE WE CANNOT HAVE GOOD SHADOWS AND REFLECTIONS WITHOUT IT :^) PLS IGNORE CRYSIS 1, 2 AND 3 WHICH HAD PERFECT REFLECTIONS AND SHADOWS HAHA
c9a435 No.15468247
>>15468239
>WE USED TO HAVE PERFECT REFLECTIONS AND SHADOWS SINCE 2012
Not really, developer laziness ruined lighting long ago.
>DEVS WILL USE "RAYTRACING" AS A FUCKING EXCUSE TO MAKE SHADOWS AND REFLECTIONS LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT
Raytracing provides an easier way for lazy devs to get realistic lighting without putting effort into time-consuming tricks so of course they're going to use it. For devs it's a blessing, a git gud lighting quick scheme, a useful crutch. For us you'll see far better lighting than if you had relied on lazy fuck devs to do it well using the old methods, but only if you have an RTX card and Windows 10. Meanwhile, the old non-RTX methods of lighting may likely become even lazier on PC, but those methods are still needed for consoles so don't expect them to go away any time soon.
195868 No.15468262
>>15449053
>oh yeah because 1kg 50" 8k 244hz crt's where around the corner.
561f66 No.15468292
>>15462136
Diversity hires. Meritocracy is dead.
cb314e No.15468866
>>15468262
If they allowed SEDs to live, they wouldn't need to upgrade every year because SEDs are flawless. LCDs are perfect because they're inherently shitty and cheap to make.
77a4c6 No.15469068
New nvidiot rtxxx info
>metro exodus runs at 1080p 20-60fps with only rt ao and gi (lighting)
>literally cant see the difference
>needs a 1200usd+ gpu to look slightly better inside for a 250% performance cost
Hmmm 4k 60fps+ or 1080p 30fps with rtx on
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
yeah nah i think ill stick with my 1080 fuck this shit
>only 3 rays per pixel
>doesnt work on alpha effects like leaves and grass
lol
o
l
cant wait for the downgrades!
https://youtu.be/lRO_BbrHFkQ
934bfa No.15469128
>>15469068
>all the subhumans in the comments defending memetracing and getting hyped over a really bad and uninspired stalker clone
I wish people had higher standards and were a lot more nitpicky. They get hyped over mediocre visuals every year and they love to circlejerk around shitty new technology which's sole purpose was to scam them. Anyone who thinks memetracing is currently needed or even looks good deserved the firing squad.
77a4c6 No.15469147
>>15469128
I thought a4 where ex stalker devs?
>reading comments
>on df
Why?
934bfa No.15469163
>>15469147
>ex stalker devs
Every Russian and Ukrainian dev loves to claim he's an ex-Stalker dev but most of them are not. Some are, but their games still suck and Exodus is a blatant attempt at copying stalker. The hacks even added anomalies straight in the game in the hopes of attracting the stalker crowd. Combat is trash as usual and the only thing they do right is making it somewhatatmospheric
>reading comments on df, why?
I ask myself the same thing, I need to stop reading youtube comments in general, everytime they make my blood boil. Humanity truly is braindead. With everyday I believe more and more in the authenticity of the NPC theory.
177592 No.15469166
>>15469147
4a, and yeah they did the old oblivion lost stuff (not the mod.) they're seriously lacking as developers, however. The quality of their output has been very low, releasing only garbage.
also the df retro comment sections are good, and df retro is the best thing DF does.
77a4c6 No.15469171
That's disappointing I liked metro last light when it came out but I thought 2033 sucked
934bfa No.15469209
TRUE HD NEXT-GEN PHOTOREALISTIC MIND-BLOWING TEXTURES, WASTING $2000 FOR A GPU WAS SURE WORTH IT
I know of 2007 games with sharper and more detailed textures Jesus fucking Christ. Why do modern games use muddy textures rather than sharp ones?
>anon, it's just motion blur
No it isn't, go to 2:08 and see for yourself
934bfa No.15469215
721ae0 No.15469285
>>15469209
>why does background geometry use low res textures
Truly a mystery.
934bfa No.15469434
>>15469285
>place you can look at from a close distance
<background
Imagine being this delusional
614573 No.15469718
>>15469209
>>15469068
Totally worth paying a thousand bucks in a gpu and buying the newest titles of the game industry.
END THIS
721ae0 No.15469781
>>15469434
The answer to your question is that is a background asset you're not supposed to get that close to. The problem is obviously that whatever retard made that scripted encounter has you raised up to it where you won't be during regular gameplay. I'm not defending how it looks, especially when the rest of whatever game it is looks dull as fuck, but your generalization is retarded.
934bfa No.15469847
>>15469781
Nigger even without the cutscene you can still walk in that same area and look at it's absolute muddy ugliness from 2-3 meters away. It is an abhorrent asset with bad textures and is used in places the player has full access to.
>your generalization is retarded
All modern games have muddy textures with very few exceptions. It's not a generalization, it is a fact.
d18ac7 No.15470062
>>15469781
Shouldn't telemetry tell the devs that playtesters encountered low res textures, or is telemetry just for spying?
721ae0 No.15470076
>>15470062
Well any sort of QA should've told them the script was triggerable next to cliffs and it looks like shit when the player is up in the air.
64122a No.15470545
>>15469068
All Metro games are nothing but glorified tech demos to showcase Novideos proprietary technology,you have to wonder if the first two games sold so poorly were are they getting them moneys for the third one hmm…
>>15469128
>>15469163
Hey goyem, reytreicing its the new best thing to come right next to physx, tessellation, hairworks and gay-sync, get hyped.
>>15469209
Gotta have those muddy texture to achieve them 1080p 60fps with RTX on, look at them shadows its mind blowing, fuck high rez texture.
421f26 No.15470579
>>15455314
Are those fucking floppy ass, gauge ear holes?
d0727a No.15470649
>>15470545
Makes sense
>>15469171
Because the rtx 2080ti only has 11gb of vram and probably needs most of it for this rt shit
Most gpus only have 3 6 and 8gb these days as well so designing textures around 5 year old gpus and consoles tend to lead to this muddy ass looking textures
Then you have games like shadow of the tomb raider and rise where they have great textures but no current videocards has the memory to run them at 4k or even 2k
I can't recall then video memory size has stayed the same for so long we still haven't gone beyond 12gb in videocards designed for games.
Amd save us from this hell 7nm soon
d0727a No.15470680
>>15470662
Isn't it only dlaa? Find it hilarious they couldn't even get ue4 built in taa to work after 2 years lol
Games deqd as fuck no Aussies playing it anymore thank fuck
3b8380 No.15470719
>>15468247
I don't want games being made by lazy devs that require $799 GPUs to look good, not to mention whatever the cost of a Gsync monitor is.
>>15470579
Yes it is just as disgusting as you think it is.
9b01fe No.15470919
>>15460849
I always have graphics maxed and I've been using 970 for years.
Graphics cards are a meme
77a4c6 No.15470954
>>15470719
The 2080ti is 1000usd+ tho it will never be sold at that 800usd retail because nvidias greedy
6f8336 No.15471013
where should I look for cheap graphics cards after the 27th? ebay? craigslist?
77a4c6 No.15471827
>>15471013
Local pc forums and groups
Get a 1080ti at least
a3907c No.15472394
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>>15454570
>>15449053
>>15453500
>>15469128
>>15469209
The big problem is that there's no longer a significant difference between medium and max settings (or for a lot of modern games, min and medium settings).
Unlike in the old days when PC games were designed both to function on much weaker machines with severe graphical compromises, and to push max settings far beyond any commercially available hardware for future-proofing, range of settings are now pretty much all the same, with your only real "ultra" option being "try to run a PS4 port at 1440p144".
77a4c6 No.15472425
>>15472394
yep, plus modern tech makes rt pretty much poitnless
a3907c No.15472446
>>15472425
The problem with nVidia's RT isn't that RT is pointless, but that nVidia is using it for lame hybrid graphics with polygonal geometry. There are innumerable massive benefits to dumping Gouraud rasterization and switching to a fully RT pipeline, but nVidia isn't doing that. Hopefully AMD (or Intel, given their past experiments with Larabee/Xeon Phi) will do that, though.
77a4c6 No.15472607
>>15472446
RT in its current form is totally useless
>cards too slow and expensive to even do any of the effects at 1440p 100fps+ that people expect these days
until they can completely ditch raster i am not interested hybrid solutions with only shadows/reflections/ao and or GI is just a joke
83bd4f No.15472632
>>15470649
>only have 3 6 and 8gb these days as well so designing textures around 5 year old gpus and consoles tend to lead to this muddy ass looking textures
4GB Vram is more than enough. The problem lies 100% with the developers being absolute worthless talentless uninspired hacks.
>shadow of the tomb raider and rise where they have great textures
No, their textures are mediocre.
a3907c No.15472732
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>>15472607
nVidia is unquestionably sandbagging hard, since the tiny cellphone PowerVR GPUs back in 2016 had an RTRT block (from a tiny company called Caustic Graphics they bought back in 2010) with basically identical performance to nVidia's RTX silicon (which is an outgrowth of the full-scene "OptiX" true RTRT nVidia has been working on since at least 2008) in their highest-end workstation GPUs. Given the massive total silicon budget nVidia & AMD have, a GPU seriously dedicated to RTRT would probably yield dozens of times the performance.
77a4c6 No.15472755
>>15472732
Yeah I found that pretty interesting but the industry aint ready for full rt yet.
As for sandbagging absolutely
3b8380 No.15473507
CUCKS WHO PRE-ORDERED BLOWN THE FUCK OUT E T E R N A L Y
bbfa8e No.15473637
>>15451684
Review embargoes have to be one of the most jewish things I've ever heard of and I can't believe normalfags stand for this shit. What is even the official justification for such blatantly consumer-unfriendly practices?
af441a No.15473772
>>15448595
Serious Sam 4 joins the pirate list then. Let's be honest, every game on the list is confirmed to be sold by jews. If have to sell your soul to join nvidia's side.
1b6c5c No.15473944
>>15473507
>picking only one game
>not showing the pity 10-30% increase
>for 50-60% more money
a3907c No.15474664
>>15473637
Allowing people to write decent reviews, having actually tested the product to a reasonably extensive degree. There would be zero problem with review embargoes if preorders didn't exist.
b7ddc9 No.15475180
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Steve is streaming, wew, not looking great
b7ddc9 No.15475381
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Not good, wait for 7nm. Buy another 1080ti if you have to.
a3907c No.15475406
>>15475381
Has Vulkan/DX12 unfucked CFX/SLI?
d0918f No.15475474
>>15475406
completely the opposite, SLI and crossfire don't work at all on DX12 or Vulkan games unless the developer has implemented it themselves, because that's how it works with DX12 and Vulkan
cec7e2 No.15475478
>>15475406
vulkan
no, lmao
dx12 is rebranded mantle
so no
d0918f No.15475518
>>15455449
>implying human binocular vision isn't literally almost exactly 16:9
>>15475478
vulkan is rebranded mantle (that's why "vulkan", after Vulcan, the roman god of volcanoes and fire and magma)
DX12 was based on mantle but is significantly different, and it uses DirectX semantics where vulkan is more similar to OpenGL owing to its association with the khronos group
the dumbest shit is that there is no reason for any of the games that are using them to use vulkan or DX12. the benefit is that they can drastically reduce the number of draw calls required in a complex scene but basically all of the games using vulkan and DX12 are consolized AAA linear shooter garbage that runs completely fine on DX11 and gains nothing from vulkan
the games that need these new APIs are your big open world games because it would allow them to include massively greater detail (i.e. 100x the grass detail and distance) without bogging down like GTA V does when you head out into the mountains. but none of those games are using them yet. fucking stupid
78b2f3 No.15475962
bros how long will a 970 last me? Will AMD save me? I bought a ryzen 2nd gen and its fucking great
11e49c No.15476038
>We won't know if RTX is worth it until we find out how much better RTX games run on RTX cards and how many games take advantage of these features.
>Most of these games won't be out for 6-12 months.
>New cards will probably be right around the corner by then.
So skip this generation of cards pretty much? Am I misreading anything?
d46a33 No.15476205
>>15475518
It's good that it's becoming a standard, regardless. The more people use Vulkan, the more likely it is that games that would see great benefits from using Vulkan will actually use it. Even emulators are starting to use it Not PCSX2 tho
dd8154 No.15476303
>>15451709
AMD already has real time raytracing on thier radeon pro cards
d46a33 No.15476308
>>15476303
At the same level of performance? Do you have benchmarks?
77a4c6 No.15476364
>>15476038
Yep skip them
Also they will be absolute junk as soon as 7nm mcm amd stuff comes out AND nvidias own 7nm mcm stuff in 202x
Not much is coming out next year except maybe a 7nm vega with 1080ti perf
if you have a 970-1080ti and its still working there is no point
These cards are completely rushed and for a 80% price increase for a 30% perf increase when OVERCLOCKED and alot less stock for stock vs oc aib pascal its just not worth it.
the gtx turing series up to 2060 will be more interesting imho as it wont have that fuck hueg die useless rt ai cores etc
>>15475381
based linus
>>15475180
steve said the same thing and goes into a lot more detail oc etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUM_eINGUl4
https://youtu.be/PpDG13PrNPg
wasnt expecting any of these guys to shit on nvidia this hard but as ive been saying for months its literally just volta but worse
b7ddc9 No.15476377
>>15476364
>Volta but worse
Pretty much, you have to damn near break the fucking thing to make it surpass volta, and even then, it's not something for daily use or recommended for OC.
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/timespy+3dmark+score+extreme+preset/version+1.0/1+gpu
11e49c No.15476380
I heard their new version of SLI actually pools together VRAM from the cards now among other things. Will this mean a second GPU will actually be worth the purchase in the future. Instead of just upgrading to a new card?
dd8154 No.15476389
>>15476303
Plus AMD ProRender doesn't need deadicated hardware, instead it use the GPU and CPU to draw raytraced scenes
77a4c6 No.15476409
>>15476377
Such a dumb card
$1400 for a absolutely zero new features and maybe 60fps at 4k with shit low fps no better than 2 year old pascal
>>15476380
Nope i reckon it will still be by a game by game basis and GUESS WHAT its not working at launch
>>15476378
7nm is gonna be dope on vega
dd8154 No.15476425
>>15476378
This was from the previous version of AMD Radeon ProRender amd AMD announce Real time raytracing was annouced to AMD ProRender 21th march at CDG
77a4c6 No.15476431
>>15476425
Oh good so early days then
Gonna be hilarious amd switch vegas prim shaders and all the other sekrit sauce tech on like they did with older GCN back in the day
7nm here we cum!!!!!!!!!!!!!
b7ddc9 No.15476447
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Price to Performance video, save this one, it's got good data.
11e49c No.15476459
>>15476409
>GUESS WHAT its not working at launch
That sucks but I meant down the line I'm probably not buying a new card until 2019 or 2020. Unless I come into a bunch of cash somehow. I might buy a 1080TI if the prices get low enough because my 970 is not cutting it anymore with my 2560x1440 monitor.
77a4c6 No.15476474
>>15476459
2020 7nm turing and 7nm vega/navi will be mainstream mate your literally just better off skipping them not even worth getting used or cheap new
11e49c No.15476549
>>15476474
By cheap enough I meant 200-300$ CAD which isn't fucking happening until 2020 or king leaf gets thrown out.
77a4c6 No.15476562
>>15476549
ausfag here i feel your pain they want $1900aud for a 2080ti founders here
honestly 1080ti's are dropping to $600 here used just go get one of those
77a4c6 No.15476833
b7ddc9 No.15476890
>>15476833
>It's not even a 2080 Ti
Mein gut.
3b8380 No.15477423
>>15476409
>$1400 for a absolutely zero new features
Woah there anon, raytracing
a3907c No.15477454
>>15475474
https://www.pcgamesn.com/ashes-of-the-singularity/directx-12s-cross-brand-multi-gpu-capability-tested-nvidia-and-amd-cards-now-work-together-in-harmony
So the new APIs provide vastly faster and more flexible multi-GPU, but only if devs actually implement it, which in spite of increasing demands from 4k120Hz, basically none do. Fug.
>>15476303
Reminder all implementations of RTRT include shader-based paths that will run on AMD and non-RTX nVidia alike. Furthermore, according to nVidia & MS themselves, the RTRT silicon on RTX only increases DXR API performance by 2-3x:
https://www.techpowerup.com/242504/microsoft-releases-directx-raytracing-nvidia-volta-based-rtx-adds-real-time-capability
084ca6 No.15477502
>>15470662
It is a disaster waiting to happen, they can't even properly optimize their regular game. It will be funny to watch PUBG in RTX mode running at sub 15 fps on a 2080 Ti.
77a4c6 No.15477566
>>15477423
In a year or so lol there are no games that fully support it.
Not even patched in its only small stuff like ao shadows or lighting
Realtime reflections run like absolute ass
c9a435 No.15477616
The verdict is in:
RTX 2080
<is essentially a 1080 Ti
<not worth the money
<just buy a 1080 Ti if you want that level of performance
RTX 2080 Ti
>actual performance improvement
<still costs way too much
Nvidia can kiss my ass. Not even worth considering RTX until those prices come down and by then the next big thing will probably be on the market.
77a4c6 No.15477636
>>15477616
based braap poster
can we get some more thicc braap porn?
11475f No.15477821
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>>15477616
Where are the numbers m8
How many fps and 3dmarks do you get on this demo comparing those cards?
8009d3 No.15479901
I AM ANGRY
ANGRY ABOUT NVIDIA
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006c62 No.15492828
>>15448595
Buy AMD then faggot.
950ba3 No.15496296
>>15468239
Thing is that this isn't even real raytracing. If it were then you wouldn't need normal maps, specular ect as the rays handle all of that. This is why the games with raytracing will look identical to games running without it because they're the same art assets. Whereas Raytracing is supposed to be a workflow change, not so much a rendering one.
To me its all just really lazy.
f7dd93 No.15496438
Don't mind me, just waiting on DDR5 and 7nm. Saving up for black friday too.
We've already plateaued this generation to the point of diminishing returns, made it this far, might as well wait for the beginning of the next one and be the first in line for new tech.
77a4c6 No.15496500
https://youtu.be/eZgX4EfIiXc
Apart from reflections rtx is basically a useless shitty solution with a tonne of noise (grainy lighting shadows etc due to low raytrace sample count)
Based tech jesus shitting on nvidiots
Your meme deep learning aa is also a joke!
b7ddc9 No.15496504
b7ddc9 No.15496553
>>15496531
P r e c i o u s
77a4c6 No.15496610
>>15477821
lol it even has frame drops in their own demo
000000 No.15496667
Kek it's like another memorygate
<but muh gaytrace!
Yeah, all those games that support it such as uhh…ummm… UHHH
b7ddc9 No.15496670