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Was a big fan of the series but most of the games past Vesperia were rushed and lacked a certain level of charm you would see in older games in the series. The combat systems have gotten more refined in some cases but most don't surpass the combat from Graces F and the spam crazy combat of Destiny DC. The world maps got better but they're not fun to explore and the towns became less memorable. Same applies to the music. Sakuraba has lost his touch and many tracks aren't memorable. It would do them good to just let him do what he pleases instead of everything having "a "Tales" feel. Meanwhile the dungeons and puzzles barely exist in the games now. I feel a majority of these are due to the games being rushed. Like how Xillia 1 and 2 were supposed to be 1 game but now it's 2 sloppy games with lots of padding.

Still it's good that this came to PC with all the extra PS3 content. Most had to mod their PS3 to play it or just learn moon.

>>15447380

This version adds all the PS3 content as well. More skills that really flesh out some characters, 8 over limit gauges instead of 4, more artes, skills, bosses, and characters to use as well. Many got pissy when it never came overseas. And it does so as soon as the old director left. Maybe fans were right when they said he hated the western audience.

>>15447625

>Peashy

Is this a Nep joke?

>>15447888 (checked)

To clarify, Microsoft paid Bandai a ton of money to get Vesperia as a timed exclusive with the caveat that they had to pretend it was a real exclusive. Sony has a scumfuck policy where games released on their system later must have x amount of additional content.

Namco, being the lazy kikes they are, decided to just cut out a ton of already finished content to meet that quote, leaving the 360 version effectively unfinished. They then pulled a double kike and cancelled the western PS3 release despite it already being ready to ship. Someone asked Johnny Yong Bosch (the VA for the protagonist) why the PS3 version was cancelled and his reaction was utter bewilderment because he was under the assumption it had released. Namco canned a localization that was ready to ship purely out of spite for the west, then teased that if people bought Enslaved: Odyssey to the West (a dogshit game that nobody wanted) they'd "consider" releasing Vesperia PS3. When a ton of people actually did it, they silently took down the website and pretended Vesperia never existed.

Now, a fucking decade later these snakes are trying to cash in, and they can frankly go fuck themselves. I wanted ten years, I can wait longer for Denuvo to get cracked. Then I can wait an extra day for people to crack that faggot denuvo shill's mod that the port will no doubt need to be functional. Namco won't see a fucking penny from me.

>>15448419

Boo!

Denuvo will continue to get raped tp death.

It will keep tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.

>>15447778

>Only a completely and utter retard would buy a console this generation.

Got a PS4 and it's only good for fighting games and some imported games. Other than that I appreciate my VITA and PC much more.

>>15448309

No point in feeding (you)s to an obvious shitposter. Just filter and move on.

>>15448572

>Troy Baker

Yeah, my bad. I was just playing a game with JYB in it so my brain autocorrected.

>Not sure that was the case for the PS3

It's the excuse Namco gave and given their actions it's the one thing I'm actually willing to believe them on.

>>15448317

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>>15448385

reminder that kaldaien is a jewish pedophile by his own accidental admission

Still angry Japs were stupid enough to betray Sony. Didn't exactly work out for them did it?

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>>15449997

So they weren't even paid to pull the bullshit they did. Namco is truly the EA of Japan, holy shit.

>>15448288

>Odyssey to the West

>a dogshit game that nobody wanted

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>>15449997

So this is where all the "If we don't buy X then we'll never get Y" nonsense comes from. Always told people that never made sense. And it turns out they never really did give a shit about giving us the game in the first place. It was just a tactic to manipulate morons into buying more games in hopes that you get the game you actually want. Essentially turning the fans into investors.

A decade later, the game finally comes over and it had nothing to do with what most people thought was the reason.

>>15450709

It's actually a bestiality doujin.

>>15450866

Same thing. Why does man want to rid the world of purity and force it's own to consort with beasts and other viceful creatures to rid of their innocence? Fucking disgusting.

>>15450885

Man is inherently impure. There is no escape from this filth, all that remains is to embrace it.

>>15450709

She proceeds to rape them to death in the next page.

>>15450885

>Cuckold doujins are the same as bestiality

No need to throw out misinformation to justify your stance Paladin. I don't see how those issues of yours even apply to 2D.

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>>15451250

>Being this upset at the possibility that niggers could be fucking a 2D girl you don't know to the point where you actually think bestiality is the same as NTR or that all 2D interracial is only NTR.

This is getting silly. Just read it if you care so much. Though the artist does make some good stuff.

https://exhentai.org/g/1199162/7dd00b3e79/

>Tales Series Developer Interview: Vesperia Remastered and the Future of the Series

https://www.frontlinejp.net/2018/09/15/tales-series-developer-interview-vesperia-remastered-and-the-future-of-the-series/

>>15459484

I would say Graces F if you want a difficult game with some fantastic combat and mechanics complementing it. It still has some dungeons and puzzles but this game is only held up by the combat. Everything else is pretty weak with the exception that the characters can be funny at times. Xillia 1 and 2 feel like half a game in terms of polish but I think people consider X1 > X2 only because X2 has pacing problems where you have to grind sidequest to pay off an in-game debt.

Hearts R is considered a good game overall but the translation is sub-par. Bizarre name changes, artes had their names changed to things that didn't even fit the original name. And many lines had either too much flavor text that make it completely obvious they didn't translate it well. If you can ignore that, it's a solid game.

While I don't love or hate Berseria, it's an OK game. Combat is decent but the dungeons barely existent. I did enjoy the characters but I felt the cast's synergy as a whole was weaker than Vesperia, Symphonia, and Graces F.

So out of those, I think Hearts R and Graces F might be worth your time. Check out gameplay videos to see if you like it first.

>>15463677

>a subject who is supposed to be a stand in for your woman

You are projecting so hard that you assume every 2D girl you see in a doujin is your girl. No wonder NTR upsets you so much. Not everyone self inserts or even assumes the girl getting dicked is their woman. I don't know why people have such a hard time not projecting themselves in these things. Especially when most doujins don't even take place in the male's first person view.

>>15451065

>>Cuckold doujins are the same as bestiality

Yes. You as the viewer are observing a woman being raped and degraded by animals.

>>15467048

>You are projecting so hard that you assume every 2D girl you see in a doujin is your girl

Imagine being such a weak faggot that you permissively let women degrade themselves and be coalburning whores.

Your will is weak, your bloodline is weak, and you will not survive the winter.

>>15467068

I hope you don't self insert then. Because I'm going to self insert as these animals and fuck your woman. However, now that you have seen these images you have no choice but to self insert as the animal. If you choose not to, then you're a cuck that lets me fuck your woman. :^)

>>15467048

>And many lines had either too much flavor text that make it completely obvious they didn't translate it well.

Only 40% or so was "translated", going off Kaji's thoughts on it. The other 60% was made up wholesale because Bamco didn't care enough to keep 8-4 on as tight a leash as prior, or perhaps even a leash to begin with. And 8-4's favorite projects, by their own statement, are ones wherein they're allowed nigh-full control of them and little oversight. Which would make sense to me as Bamco was adamant about not giving us it or Innocence in any format, until SCEA actually did something right for once and forced their hand after a poll asking just what the fuck western Vita owners actually wanted in the library here. Incidentally, that's the last game in the series 8-4 worked on, barring special thanks in Xillia 2 (perhaps because of terminology reuse that the new team borrowed from X1). Game could use a full fan retranslation, but as of now all Tales groups are pretty much dead, so it's not likely to happen, especially when we are still outright missing entire entries in English of any sort.

For further reading:

http://www.blade2187.com/2014/04/21/no-no-no-no-no-no/

http://www.blade2187.com/2014/06/12/you-guys-need-a-localization-director/

http://www.blade2187.com/2014/11/10/like-moths-to-a-flame/

http://www.blade2187.com/2014/11/16/a-crash-korse-in-how-not-to-localize/

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>>15467239

I forgot how bad it truly was. This is some PS1 JRPG tier translations. Thanks for the links though.

>but as of now all Tales groups are pretty much dead

We are still outright missing entire entries in English of any sort.

Do you think Rebirth, Destiny DC, and all the others would actually sell well if they came over here on PC, Vita, or PS4?

>>15467319

Funny thing is, with Eternia way back when, while the dub is obviously hit or miss, the English script was kept very close to the JP one courtesy of the Japanese localization director (I suppose awkward translations were something even Japan was aware of that late into the PS1's life). I myself only noticed a few stand out issues, and they weren't even main script: namely "Sekundes Corridor" (which should have been "Sekeundes Collider", a reference to an arte now known as "Dhaos Blast" here as of Vesperia's arena cameo), and general arte names, though in defense of the latter the series hadn't settled on a standardized naming scheme at that point (Symphonia would kickstart that). Just saying it's neat that they went out of their way to avoid that, and even dubbed it instead of cutting the bulk of the voicing again, for what might have been their final attempt at bringing the series over, had NoA not funded and marketed Symphonia here for them (one of the few things I'll give NoA credit for). Shame the English version is still missing the skits though.

>>15467319

>Do you think Rebirth, Destiny DC, and all the others would actually sell well if they came over here on PC, Vita, or PS4?

I've honestly thought before that a "Classic 2D Tales Compilation Box", so to speak, would be pretty neat, and could contain Phantasia X, Destiny DC, Eternia, Destiny 2, Rebirth, and NDX. But I couldn't see such a thing coming west. Pretty much all of those but Eternia would need ground-up translation or retranslation, which would probably either drive the price on such a thing here through the roof, or force them to operate at a big loss for a $50-60 compilation (and that's not getting started on the voicing). In general though, Bamco seems to act like 2D entries have no good place in the west, and to be fair, the ones we've gotten either didn't sell well to begin with (Destiny and Eternia), were a botch job (Phantasia's frankensteined GBA port and the wallet devouring iPort of the PSP version), or very hit or miss (Legendia, though that one uses 3d modeling instead of spriting while keeping the field 2D). They can't even be fucked to put Destiny or Eternia on the PSN (though to be fair, no fifth or sixth gen Tales, is barring the "HD" version of Symphonia, even in Japan), and assuming that it was SCEAs ruling on PS1-to-PSP ports that kept NA from getting the PSP port of Eternia (the PS1 version going for a good $120 these days), even in PAL Bamco didn't give a shit to do so themselves. Instead Ubisoft took the risk and bought the rights to give PAL the second Tales game they ever got natively (and consequently fucked up at least one or two print runs with the infamous Volt Glitch).

Now, do I think they would sell as belated ports if brought here? I'd like to think so, especially as the series has gotten more popular over seventh gen and we keep getting references to shit that's been never-evers, but again, there's the notion of 2D being "outdated." Doesn't help that the media pushes as such like they did with Dragon's Crown, claiming it is (was, then) current year and even well done 2D should only warrant half the price as a 3D game. And I doubt Bamco would be willing to go through the effort of full scale translation/dubbing/Jap dub licensing if it looked like they'd have to sell them at only $25-30 as a first go. It's much more feasible to justify bringing ports or compilation of older games over when the script and voicing have already been done prior.

I thought it was recorded already, and just never released until now. I dont notice much of a difference in the voice, so im guessin the new lines are by Matt Mercer.

>>15482048

>Shitty leftist actor gets BTFO and cries about it.

Why is this news?

I remember playing Berseria because a friend meme'd me into it and I really didn't like it. It was too railroady for my taste and the combat system really wasn't that good. I only put 27 hours into it though and I wanted to ask, is it one of those "gets good after ___ hours" games?

>>15482048

I've honestly felt kind of bad for Mercer. Got to sting a bit when you're getting kind of pigeonholed into being a budget version of a more popular voice. But, I suppose work is work, and if Baker's gotten too big to afford, its a service to be offered.

>>15482322

Some of it was. How much though is left in the air. I know that datamining discovered Yuri, Estelle, and Rita's second Mystic Artes had English voice work that went unused, and I know Baker's stated before he got called in for additional linework that Bamco never did anything with, but unlike, say, Symphonia Chronicles, where the playable cast is the same people, the addition of actual new characters into the mix actually changes shit up for skits and scenes. While some lines might remain the same, there's still characters addressing either Flynn or Patty when they weren't present in the 360 version.

>>15474733

I did find it odd that of all the sprite based mothership Tales games at the time, Destiny was the only one that didn't have a PSP version. Makes me think that the system wouldn't have run the PS2 Director's Cut as well as the earlier ones as a port. If so, maybe the Vita could have handled it better, and last year would have been a prime opportunity given it would have been the 20th anniversary of Destiny PS1 in Japan. That said, the PS2 ISO size is just below 4.5gb, and Bamco's known for being cheap, so maybe inability to fit it on a 4gb Vita cart or something kept it from happening. Both versions of the remake are still exclusive to the PS2. However, even if it did come out there on the Vita, I still doubt we'd have gotten it here. Not when Bamco doesn't like to bring portable Tales west.

>Innocence is for the PSP though that has a fan translation

Innocence was on the DS, not PSP.

>But I haven't heard people mention the game much so I don't know if it's just decent or unmemorable.

The factor of people not being able to play certain games in English until many years after they originally released (and thus would have been "in"), and not having an actual release here, tends to contribute to that. As for Innocence though, what I recall hearing most was that its dungeon design was kind of ass, and the guild quest system doesn't make it too import friendly on the gameplay end. Also unlike Hearts, wherein apparently both the DS original and Vita remake were considered good in their own right (in Japan and from importers years back), to my knowledge the Vita version of Innocence trumps the DS one, leaving the only English version the inferior game. I could be wrong though as I haven't personally played it myself, so take the above as hearsay; I've been meaning to give Innocence DS a try regardless, but my flash cart is broken.

>Maybe a Radiant Mythology trilogy would work out too?

I don't know. Bamco seems pretty done with that subseries now, barring putting references to the Kanonnos in other games. And if they did rerelease, them, it wouldn't shock me if they were relagated to mobile instead. I remember some years back when there was an announcement that seemed to hint at being RM4, with a pink haired girl (possibly the missing "Spring" Kanonno) and an animal buddy that looked in line with the prior ones, but instead turned out the be Tales of Link for phones. And since then, all the crossover escort titles to come out have also been phone only. Barring Tactics Union, which got an expanded 3DS port as Reve Unitia.