d2d18c No.15445198
Complete all quests in all three elder scrolls games vanilla with no mods.
Can you do it?
9c0751 No.15445205
How about you observe these digits you degenerate?
b500ee No.15445206
>>15445198
>all 3 elder scrolls games
>two aren't elder scrolls games
d2d18c No.15445211
>>15445206
Honestly they are so different i don't count them.
35339b No.15445235
How about I just complete all the quests in the first one. Which I have. Oblivion to, but I don't really care for that anymore.
8077da No.15445251
>>15445198
Of the three Elder Scrolls games, the only one I haven't completed is Arena. What are 2nd and 3rd pics, OP? Some sort of cheesy action-adventure knock-offs of the Elder Scrolls?
d2d18c No.15445268
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Remember how cool skyrim was in 2011?
8de9e7 No.15445309
Yes and I'd be able to do them all in under 30 minutes each.
e431bc No.15445312
Considering Skyrim has infinite fetch quests like a garbage MMO, not in that game.
767367 No.15445316
>>15445198
Impossible you'd be stopped by a bug.
d2d18c No.15445324
>>15445312
Dammit, you right. I completely forgot that you can't actually beat skyrim.
8d5bd9 No.15445333
>>15445198
but Skyrim has
INFINITE QUESTS
your challenge is now possible
8d5bd9 No.15445334
d2d18c No.15445340
>>15445333
I actually never got to the part where fetch quests become infinite. How does it look like?
09e7cf No.15445365
>>15445206
>not playing the eldersrcolls games on the ngage
Kill yourself, n'wah.
8d5bd9 No.15445372
>>15445340
you probably did but didn't realise it. Some asshole gives you a fetch quests. You do it, he gives you new lines and asks for the same exact fetch quest, but for a different object in a different location. Repeat. They have unique lines for about three or four rounds, then they just repeat the last one I think. There's several pre-determined containers in the game in which the desired object will spawn, so if you keep at it, you'll find yourself going to the same chests over and over again. Frankly, it's kinda insulting that this bullshit was even included in the game, seeing how lazy and superficial it is. The quests aren't even about fetching anything important. I remember one where some librarian faggot went "I want moar books, fetch me this one in this dungeon" over and over again. You can tell that they are only there so that the marketing department can say "Infinite quests!" Like, you can really feel that whoever programmed that shit also thought this was fucking retarded, otherwise he'd put more effort into this nonsense
f5cc41 No.15445407
>>15445198
you mean the 3 Todd Howard games.
8d5bd9 No.15445417
>>15445407
todd worked on earlier ones too, though
496473 No.15445512
I'm not playing bugcity.
Never even once tried the thief/assasin quests in oblivion/skyrim. Got initiated by mistake in Skyrim (that old hag had it coming).
Didn't finish the warrior guild quest in skyrim either, "Companions" or whatever: they wanted me to get infected with werewolf blood so I ran away.
Also, Blades were cool before but now graybeards>blades. Best quest was the civil war, should have been more complex and with a bigger scale.
979972 No.15445525
>>15445417
He worked on redguards as well and thats it.
8d5bd9 No.15445528
8d5bd9 No.15445537
>>15445512
>never did thief and assassin quests in Oblivion
You missed the few genuinely good parts of that game
496473 No.15445538
>>15445340
>I actually never got to the part where fetch quests become infinite. How does it look like?
Meet some NPC
"Any new quest?"
"Yes, please bring me 10 rat tails or kill 5 mudcrabs or take this birthday cake to a remote cave and I'll give you some shekels"
You'll realize it's a repetitive quest when it's being offered in grayed letters instead of bright white ones, i.e. you've read the text behind that dialogue option before.
7bf14a No.15445540
>>15445512
>Never even once tried the thief/assasin quests in oblivion
Well, the thieves guild is just kinda alright, but the Dark Brotherhood chain is way too fucking good and is the highlight of the entire game.
496473 No.15445545
>>15445537
I know but I really lose myself in these games so I can't stop roleplaying.
Had the time of my life with Knights of the Nine, the mod ("Revelations") was even better.
239ab3 No.15445546
>all three
>open up the thread expecting to see arena and daggerfall
239ab3 No.15445553
>>15445512
>Never even once tried the thief/assasin quests in oblivion/skyrim. Got initiated by mistake in Skyrim (that old hag had it coming).
you missed the only worthwhile part of the whole game, nice work
e734fe No.15445562
979972 No.15445572
>>15445546
>tfw it was perfectly orchestrated bait all along
496473 No.15445593
>>15445546
Arena & Daggerfall are unplayable by now.
Yes, I played (and enjoyed) Ultima Underworld this year, the genre is not the problem
>>15445553
I wish I desired to be an assasin but I don't. I was mostly interested in thst elder scroll heist, though.
505df0 No.15445599
>>15445198
Already did it 7 years ago (Arena and Daggerfall too), next challenge.
239ab3 No.15445617
>>15445593
>Arena & Daggerfall are unplayable by now.
you're a fucking faggot, daggerfall still has the best 3d dungeon generator ever designed and i enjoyed it thoroughly
10414c No.15445620
>>15445599
All three Fallout games.
06d675 No.15445639
>>15445512
>It's possible to completely get rid of the dark brotherhood in Skyrim
>Can't do the same to the thieves guild
I wanted to be a warrior of justice, but this modded porn game won't let me.
1fc101 No.15445646
No. There are several quests that can't be completed without the unofficial patch.
c1badd No.15445649
>>15445198
>Can you do it?
absolutely not, I can't stand shit
9a5c6d No.15445667
>>15445198
I have besides the looping ones in Skyrim.
Daggerfall is the only one I go back and play once in awhile. Never understood the dying love for Morrowind.
8077da No.15445680
>>15445593
No, the genre isn't the problem. You are.
505df0 No.15445697
>>15445620
I've done that too, but with 1, 2, Tactics, 3, NV, and 4.
239ab3 No.15445777
>>15445677
i dunno, why did you bump the thread with an off topic question
907d7c No.15445792
impossible quest.
most quests in skyrim and oblivion never actually complete.
999f30 No.15445803
>>15445198
Here's a challenge: Don't play these games because they're terrible and a waste of time.
32ffc8 No.15445805
>>15445667
Morrowind fanatism may be a case of nostalgia and unique atmosphere of the game, but daggerfall is even more repetitive copy-paste shit i don't understand your love for it either.
54c29a No.15445831
>>15445805
maybe people like daggerfall because it doesn't play like autistic forum browsing simulator
749007 No.15445866
>>15445198
>Morrowind
- At the release you didn't had the ability to track quests properly, until the journal upgrade.
- After that most of the minor quests were broken so even if you finished them they stayed on the journal.
- Even with the GOTY edition there are few quest which stay stuck in your journal
- Most of the quests are House or Guild exclusives so you literally can't do every quest in one play (which is a good thing, you normalfag scum)
>Oblivion
- There are a very few open ended quest like the Umbra Sword
- Some quest stuck in your "journal" (?) thank good not as much as in Morrowind
>Skyrim
- Super boring without mods and has zero (i repeat ZERO challenges!
- Radiant Quests never ends
- FORCED Radiant Quests never ends!!!!
So no, i can't do it and neither (you), faggot!
239ab3 No.15445869
>>15445805
daggerfall does one thing (the dungeons) exceedingly well, it has both cleverly hand crafted and well generated dungeons. the rest is filler or trash, especially guild quests. morrowind is a little more well rounded.
dd74ec No.15445907
yeah? i played them on fucking xbox nigga.
08a05e No.15446740
Even if you had an iron will and locked yourself in a room with nothing but food, water and those three games you'd still never be able to do it because of all the gamebreaking bugs or savegame bloat.
1fa3e2 No.15446949
I already did this years ago.
2d8ecb No.15446995
Arena > Daggerfall
Prove me wrong. PROTIP: you can't.
2f7338 No.15447018
Morrowind can't be done. You are locked out of paths. The others are easy.
749007 No.15447020
417418 No.15447034
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15445198
Only on two of them, and they don't have "Skyrim" in the title.
962515 No.15447050
Talking about challenges.
417418 No.15447062
>>15446995
Daggerfall > Arena
Prove me wrong. PROTIP: you can't.
4b0203 No.15447198
>>15447062
>(68 97 103 103 101 114 102 97 108 108) > (65 114 101 110 97)
>(1,001 > 487)
Well duh of course it's bigger
a609e1 No.15447250
Vanilla vs modded. I think the answer is clear here.
962515 No.15447292
>>15447250
That "modded" screenshot barely runs at 30 fps and is only playable enough for you to take a screenshot. Especially shit like bijin, which increase load times in whiterun and severely reduce performance.
I'd rather watch hags running around than reduce performance of the biggest city in the game through which i'l be running tons of times around, and eventually crash because game can't handle memory leaking.
e7e776 No.15447365
>>15447250
>left isn't a webm
>right isn't a 3 frame gif
Gonna need some eyedrops anon, there's no clarity here.
13f9ae No.15447410
>>15445198
Probably not for Morrowind cause the game is so fucking buggy.
1fa3e2 No.15447438
>>15447018
You just make more characters you dumb s'wit.
a609e1 No.15447489
>>15447292
>That "modded" screenshot barely runs at 30 fps
Was mainly to demonstrate Ysolda's differences. Here's a screenshot from my current game without ENB.
>Especially shit like bijin, which increase load times in whiterun and severely reduce performance.
You must run games on a toaster. My rig is about 6 years old and runs Skyrim flawlessly with all kinds of model- and texture-enhancing mods.
a609e1 No.15447546
>>15447292
Another screenshot of my game. Skyrim's lighting and shadows mostly suck, but they're good when they want to be like in this pic. Good performance all around and looks good for a game from 2011.
3bae86 No.15447587
>>15445198
I half beat Arena, and have beat DF and MW multiple times. So all three games in the series are more or less mastered on my end.
4e658c No.15447614
>all three elder scrolls games
>all three
Die.
505df0 No.15447621
>>15447614
It's made even more hilarious by >>15445620
9a5c6d No.15448996
>>15446949
Apparently it's too much of a challenge for these kids.
b16ab2 No.15449008
>>15447546
Skyrim is one of those games that looks fine in screenshots but once you play it, the game just feels so dirty. I can't even enjoy the sex mods because of how dirty the game makes me feel. I play Oblivion every time if I want to have an enjoyable fap from a bethesda game
afa2cf No.15449039
>>15445206
You can't complete all quests in DF because of how most questgivers generate infinite quests.
584142 No.15449059
>>15445211
>the first two Elder Scrolls games are different from the later ones so they don't count as Elder Scrolls games
812082 No.15449160
>>15447292
>biggest city in the game
Is this true? It's fucking smaller than an apartment.
16cdce No.15449173
>>15445268
Kids who grew up playing Skyrim can fucking vote now and those who played Oblivion in their youth have been adults for quite a while.
0537e0 No.15449376
>>15445667
It's babies first RPG, released for the Xbox of all things. They cut content for Morrowind, but somehow it's the best. You're all faggots.
f5b5ed No.15449395
>>15449173
i've always considered oblivion to be better than morrowind once mods were able to fix the core mechanic problems. luckily it was fixable and what i got after was one of my favorite games of all time. the quests, the world, the environmental story telling were all top notch. faggots who couldn't appreciate oblivion is why we got skyrim
000000 No.15449442
>>15449395
>zero effort fast travel across a world that's the size of walmart
f5b5ed No.15449500
>>15449442
are you implying fast travel didn't exist in morrowind and you didn't just gulp down some acrobatics potions to jump across half the map almost instantly anyway? the only valid argument you could use against oblivion is the quest markers, but that still could be disabled with mods and quests were descriptive enough to where it wasn't a necessity. junglefags are also obnoxious since the warp in the west basically canonizes retcons in the tes universe
eb546b No.15449548
>>15445198
I've beaten all the Oblivion quests a couple of times at this point. I must have 9 different playthroughs of that game, most of them vanilla because I was a kid playing on the 360.
5f79b8 No.15449605
>>15449395
I've been thinking about giving Oblivion another shot since I want something comfy to sink a bit of time into while doing just a bit of adventuring. Can you recommend any mods that fix the retarded design choices, level scaling first and foremost?
831ef0 No.15449617
>>15449605
i can't, man. it has been so long that i don't remember the names of any of the mods i used. i'm sure there's a list of essentials out there. what i do know is you need to fix the enemy level scaling and equipment scaling. you also need the mod that makes stealth not be totally retarded if you want to go that route. you also need a mod that makes it so guards don't telepathically detect you when you commit a crime. really though you're going to want to be sneaking and committing crime since those are the best quests in the game
6d09a1 No.15449673
>>15449605
>mods that fix level scaling
Hey fellow man! You want a mod that fixes level scaling? Here, let me recommend you over 90 mods that do that! And oh boy they are all above 500mb packed with goodies!
Do you love horse armor? Now we have included 50 new types of horse armor in our mod! All of them recolors! Also shields and weapons from final fantasy, lineage 2, wow and other weeaboo games! 9999999 shield recolors as well! All unpacked into your fucking game!
Do you love argonians? We included tons of argonian slave camps around the game for no reason!
And oh boy we have armor! From Ganondorf armor from Zelda to edgy360noscope daedric armor thats even darker and edgier than original daedric armor! And don't forget 91701 recolors of existing armor our mod has packed in!
Ha ha, we have included jokes and easter eggs as well, because we love it when you laugh finding those out!
And don't forget tons of new companions that aren't even supported by oblivion engine and will stuck everywhere! Each one with original high resolution recolor!
New dungeons! Whole 1 new dungeon! With easter egg of buster sword!
And don't forget foes! Not only we copied all enemies and made millions of recolors of them like in teenage mutant ninja turtles beatemup game, but we also upped their stats so you feel true sense of danger and horror from a pink deer outside Imperial City!
No longer you are playing a casual game, you are playing a hardcore simulation rpg for hardcore gamers! You won't even defeat a goblin until you're level 100 because we added 99999 damage and health to him and to his hundred recolored copies!
Oh, you want just level scaling gone? Well that's wonderful, we reduced level scaling but still kept some of it in the game! Isn't that's wonderful balance change we made?
Forget about level scaling when you have CAPES, we included CAPES DUDE, in a gameplay mod! You're totally sold on that one!
*Disclaimer - crashes and glitches will never be removed, the mod is too big now, we don't even understand how it works, it just does
1fa3e2 No.15449680
>>15449395
There can be no excuse for what you have done. Go.
85ab9f No.15449688
>>15445198
Silly OP, Skyrim has infinite radiant quests.
8077da No.15450051
>>15449500
Another Oblivibabby who played Morrowind for three seconds, died in the smugglers cave, then memorizes what others wrote to pretend he played it and try to validate his stupidity.
>>15449605
If you want an open-world comfy action adventure that doesn't suck, just try Dragon's Dogma.
ce7612 No.15450080
>>15450051
>morrowind
>dying in a smugglers cave
This is some exaggeration. Morrowind players always do this just like dark souls players used to do this. Pretending your game is "hard" to prove its "good", by assuming a person criticizing it was bad at the game.
Don't get me wrong, i like morrowind.
But that game is not difficult at all to say such bullshit.
a609e1 No.15450108
>>15449173
>Kids who grew up playing Skyrim can fucking vote now
Not if they were five, dipshit.
286464 No.15450140
>>15450108
>play skyrim when you're 11 at 2011
>18 at 2018
He's right, you know.
>>15449605
Okay i have a mod that's actually seriously addressing this issue but you need to know few things about it:
1. Its not compatible with unofficial patches and have to be loaded after them, and will erase any conflicting changes
2. Its outdated (released in 2006)
3. It won't change shit in shivering isles
4. Its a smallest mod to make bandits not wear fucking daedric/glass armors and reduce effects of level scaling severely. (just 777kb esp)
5. It doesn't add non-vanilla content
https://bncomputing.com/ob/adventurers.html
Read changes on mod page.
df0dc6 No.15450168
>>15445540
the dark brotherhood are the biggest retards in the series, in both games they get massacred in their own home They don't deserve someone as refined and skilled as me.
000000 No.15450190
>>15445198
>all three elder scrolls games
>all
>three
why don't you kys all of you degenerate normalfags
8077da No.15450198
>>15450080
I'm not saying Morrowind is hard. I'm saying that's one of the biggest complaints from morons who dropped the game before they reached level 3. Dying in that cave, being unable to find Caius, and being unable to hit anything with the dagger are the three biggest complaints from morons. When someone tries to say that "boosting acrobatics" is exactly like fast travel in Oblivion, ignorant of that fact that it only works like that if you either cheat and use the console or put in hours of gathering gold/supplies for a good enchanted ring or collection of custom potions, that's when you know they never made it out of Seyda Neen and merely read complaints on forums so they can argue and pretend they have a point. You see that a lot with the trolls who shit up Morrowind threads: bringing up things that are completely false because they read it on a forum and didn't actually play the game.
426462 No.15450226
>>15449395
I'm with you brother.
In comparison to Morrowind and Skyrim Oblivion feels more complete, atleast with the mods to fix it whereas the others are still… broken.
Morrowind has an unique cool world, lore'n shit to explore but it's gameplay is broken mess and everywhere you're met with TLDR and Skyrim on the other hand just takes the casualisation way too far and "breaks" too many things while doing so.
78e3d1 No.15450234
>>15450051
I think it's time for you to hang up the act and realize Morrowind is not a good game.
df0dc6 No.15450235
why is it that in each of these games enchanting and alchemy are broken beyond belief, who thought crafting was a good idea in vidya?
7bfae9 No.15451629
I played morrowind for the first time ever after reading all the good things about it on /v/ but I didn't see anything good. It was just shitty RPG where entire story progression is clicking hyperlinks and fetch quests. Swoosh woosh flail meme is fucking real. What the fuck? Have I fallen for a meme? I might have just as well just played WoW. Morrowind is shit.
d7490b No.15451696
d6fc7c No.15451717
>>15451629
It was revolutionary back in the day. Lots of mods (that fix bugs). Lore is trippy fun. It's a great game for the imaginative player.
20dfb7 No.15451745
>>15451629
>Swoosh woosh flail meme is fucking real
Retard detected.
>have retard friend who played Skyrim
>tell him to play Morrowind
>goes to play it
>complains about missing stuff
>have him come over to see why it's wrong
>start up vanilla game
>roll up Axe character, ~70% optimization
>grab big axe from log
>walk up to lighthouse Mudcrab
>lift up axe to full charge
>slowly walk up to it
>smash it dead
Demo continued a little more past that, but once he fucking understood, he was able to go back into it without problems. But fuck, people just don't understand how RPGs work without having it literally spelled out. It's like like you need a Spear Argonian + Lady Sign to hit things - Just don't be a fucking shmuck.
And that's an entirely separate matter from the simple fact that there's no meaningful difference between swinging at a Dragon 100 times to kill it versus swinging at it 100 times and hitting it 10 times to kill it, save that the latter avoids stupid number bloat.
4e658c No.15451760
>>15450198
>being unable to hit anything with the dagger
This is the one that really grinds my fucking gears. Lrn2math, you goddamn retards, it is not difficult to hit shit in Morrowind unless you're stupid.
(Weapon Skill + (Agility / 5) + (Luck / 10)) * (0.75 + 0.5 * Current Fatigue / Maximum Fatigue) + Fortify Attack Magnitude - Blind Magnitude
Redguard Spellsword
Long Blades 45
Agility 40
Luck 40
Fatigue 190
So, without using Adrenaline Rush, your starting chance to-hit should be along the lines of (45+8+4)*1.25, or 71.25%. If you use Adrenaline Rush, the numbers get even better for the next sixty seconds. And this is fresh off the boat.
7bfae9 No.15451761
>>15451745
No, anon. People don't want to play your shitty game's shitty combat system is all. I am a veteran of tabletop RPGs and I've probably played games since before you were born. Morrowind's combat is atrocious. It's RNG based and in the worst way possible, because it relies on a dice roll. Die and video games do not go together. Ever. Go back to reddit and kill yourself, morronigger
>>>/reddit/
2d8ecb No.15451765
>>15451629
>Swoosh woosh flail meme is fucking real.
>"I can't read tooltips"
>"I'm trying to play NWN like Diablo"
Which one is it?
42aaeb No.15451766
>>15445198
I did it already On Xbox Morrowind included
426462 No.15451851
>>15451717
>was revolutionary back in the day
And that's the problem, most people simply cant get into old games or other entertainment be it movies, series or anime if they weren't around when it was fresh and new.
I had a hole on most vidya of 2000-2005~ ie when 3d really started to replace sprites and other traditional art-styles that i have really hard time to get into any of the earlier 3d-games due to simply finding the style too unappealing.
Hell i dont even like HoMM:3 that much because i think it looks like sheit compared to 2 even though 3 is obviously the superior game in every other aspect. it has shittier musics too tho
afa2cf No.15451868
>>15451629
>Swoosh woosh flail meme is fucking real
It's only like that in the early game, you're less likely to miss when you level up a skill.
It's frustrating, I know. I think it's the single biggest thing that turns people off of Morrowind.
To be honest, I don't like the dice roll system either. It's awkward in a first-person game and makes it feel like the collision is completely broken if you don't know what's going on.
1fa3e2 No.15451879
>>15451760
Thank you so much anon, for being one of the few people able to see past vague notions of how the game works and actually see it as it is. It pisses me off when these stupid kids pretend Morrowind's combat system is some 500 IQ puzzle canal.
6ed465 No.15451909
>>15451629
Even back in morrowind days there were people who preferred Daggerfall and Gothic 1/2.
069cd1 No.15451947
>>15445198
I'm pretty sure Oblivion has at least one quest that can't be resolved legitimately without mods.
97c342 No.15451959
I will never understand people who have issue with morrowind's melee.
That said, I've never played a pure melee character, so I think I'll reinstall.
Is there a prepackaged installation so I don't have to bother modding it for the 6th time? I vaguely recall a project to do that last year or the year before. Did anything come of that?
95cec9 No.15451978
>>15450168
>They don't deserve someone as refined and skilled as me.
ec3e42 No.15451990
>>15451959
What people don't understand about morrowind is that you have to invest in luck and speed even if you're melee or a mage.
High luck and speed = less misses.
95cec9 No.15452002
>>15451990
The problem is that most people don't understand what the "speed" attribute actually is.
4e658c No.15452006
>>15451879
I get it. The thing is, despite all that number-crunching above, you don't even need to be good at math to get gud at fightan. The average guy doesn't need to constantly calculate current/maximum fatigue to get his multiplier, he just needs to know to improve his weapon skills, improve his stats, and keep his fatigue up. Since you start missing more once your fatigue starts going down as you flail away like a retard with a drumkit, one would think that "More fatigue=less missing" is pretty fucking intuitive.
ec3e42 No.15452015
>>15452006
I like how fatigue potions in oblivion/skyrim are only good for selling. There's barely any reason for them.
95cec9 No.15452027
>>15452015
Broken magic mechanics. You need total overhaul mods for skyrim for fatigue potions to be a relevant and useful item.
afa2cf No.15452033
>>15451990
Something I found funny about TES4 when compared to TES3 is how monetarily worthless the Daedric artifacts are..
They're usually less than 30,000 Septims despite being immensely powerful.
937b0e No.15452059
>>15450051
nothing i said about morrowind was wrong and you're actually recommending dragon's dogma which is hilarious. that game is more shallow than skyrim
ec3e42 No.15452065
>>15452059
>dragon's dogma is more shallow than skyrim
I actually agree. Shit pound deep lore and linear "levels" instead of real open world.
97c342 No.15452079
>>15451959
Disregard this, I got my old installation to stop crashing.
I'm going to play without any magic, only alchemy (with no exploits). I think I'll do an Imperial for the personality boost since I'll have to persuade. I've got a mod that changes progression from the fucking retarded vanilla TES thing so I can take majors that are actually useful.
Persuasion, Alchemy, Armoury, Heavy Armor are a given. What kind of weapon should I take? Onehand and block or two handed?
Should I take athletics as a major skill since I won't be able to make fortify speed 600 potions?
6688bd No.15452145
>>15445198
I could do it because despite their flaws, all of the games are still enjoyable. The only one I think I'd have a problem with is Morrowind, mainly because the crazy shit you can do in the game will make the other games pale in comparison, however Oblivion's fucking awesome quests might make up for that. Skyrim's thieves' guild questline is fucking boring trash though.
4e658c No.15452177
>>15452079
>Heavy Armor
2-hand. Shields are for people who can't tank hits.
1fa3e2 No.15452310
>>15451990
It's actually agility and luck.
>>15451760
97c342 No.15454584
>>15452177
Where can I find a steel claymore? Everyone in Balmora seems allergic to claymores, and in seyda neen only iron is available.
Also, I need to write out what I am and am not allowed to do as I caught myself selling fatigue potions I made with crab meat and eggs bought from a restocking vendor.
I don't know exactly what I'll limit myself on, but I know I won't let myself "double dip" on intelligence boosts. e.g. no making int potions then better int potions after drinking the first. I will probably make some int boosting enchantments, but I won't do an endless loop with them. This lets me enjoy the mechanic of boosting your crafting ability without totally breaking the game.
16dc78 No.15454926
>>15454686
I pity the people that have never played the PB games in German.
298ff4 No.15454946
>skyrim
i hope you like zombie vikings
going to be fighting them 95% of the time.
00bd37 No.15454985
i want to fuck a flame atronach girl
d53911 No.15455250
>>15454985
>Not golden saint
Lame.
9c0751 No.15455274
>>15454985
>>15455250
>not clone daughters you created from yourself
Niggas
4e658c No.15456819
>>15454584
>Where can I find a steel claymore?
Search the first chest under the stairs in wherever the fuck that place was in Seyda Neen, savescum until you get steel claymore or dai-katana.
f19a79 No.15457101
>>15447050
Get werewolf early and that mod is a fucking joke.
18702c No.15457116
>>15454985
>>15455250
You guys can have those thots while I get comfy with a winged twilight
>>15455274
This is a good choice as well
afa2cf No.15457132
>>15454686
>Piranha Bytes
I like Gothic, but their other games are trash.
ce7612 No.15457212
>decide to close every oblivion gate in oblivion before finishing main quest
>layouts of plane worlds starts repeating
Wew, now that's whole new level of lazy, i never bothered before to check out like 10 of them one after another, usually only done story ones. But they actually start repeating.
5a1c9a No.15457254
>>15454584
I think one of the bandits in Arkngthand has a steel claymore.
5a1c9a No.15457262
>>15457212
Yeah there's only like 8 or so planes plus 4 or 5 unique ones used in quests.
afa2cf No.15457300
Why don't the flame atronachs in Oblivion wear pants? I never thought about it before, but their crotch is completely exposed.
846e6c No.15457306
>>15457300
something something firecrotch
15ba63 No.15457331
>>15457300
Because they're demons made out of fire and don't actually have anything to cover up, it's just fire. They're all magic fire with nothing else. Even the metal parts are just magic that disappears as soon as they die, and those aren't covering anything either (except more fire).
c92817 No.15457337
I started playing morrowind for the first time today even though I've finished every other elder scrolls game, just never got around to morrowind.
ce7612 No.15457341
>>15457337
Well, isn't that great? Who do you want to play as?
c92817 No.15457347
>>15457341
started as a nord, made my own class only took one type of armor not sure if thats gonna bite me in the ass later though
749007 No.15457358
>>15457300
Better question, why flame and frost atronachs wear bdsm leather in Morrowind?
c92817 No.15457359
afa2cf No.15457360
>>15457358
I don't know about Mr. Frosty, but judging by how the female flame atronach dresses in TES I'm guessing flame atronachs are all degenerates.
afa2cf No.15457362
4e658c No.15457381
1fa3e2 No.15457391
>>15455274
This with fervor. The golden path. The only part I'm not 100% on is whether or not he started early enough, but I am confident he would have as he was too smart to waste his post-3500 years not fucking loli daughterfus. I unironically RP as a close personal friend of Divayth when I play MW, he is the greatest semi-mortal character by far.
df0dc6 No.15457398
who's the master race and why is it dunmer?
749007 No.15457410
>>15457391
Baladas is a close second in my book. He able to evade paying tax, holding the whole village under his thumb without even carrying. Meanwhile living with his pet daedroth and dwemer guard and playing Indiana Jones.
House Telvanni is full with cool wizards, I kinda surprised why Todd and Hines choosed to bring back Neloth though. He was the most generic from the bunch…
1fa3e2 No.15457556
>>15457410
Baladas is cool but despite his admirable adherence to the traditional Gadsden-flag flying Resdayni lifestyle I can't be nearly as impressed with just not paying some upstart new Imperial fuccbois in backwater Gnisis as I am with Fyr's incestuous clone harem and similar reclusiveness and dominion over everything near him. Baladas doesn't even have a fucking corprus retreat full of ancient artifacts he invites you to come steal if you don't mind turning into a shambling cumskin foreigner for doing so. Daedroth-familiar is very bro-tier but Divayth hangs out with the single survivor of one of the most brilliant races ever and has awesome chats with him on the nature of the universe and esoteric mysteries while one of his clone daughters sucks his fat Dunmeri cock.
6d67ce No.15458141
>>15457410
>They took the generic safe route
>In Skyrim
Yeah that was the case throughout most of the game tbh.
ff29f3 No.15459568
>>15445528
>>15445525
Incorrect. He did bug testing for Arena and the sound effects for Daggerfall.
d339e6 No.15459610
>>15457132
all PB games ARE Gothic
d4f43a No.15460098
>>15459568
How can anyone has patience enough to play this shit game?
d4f43a No.15460125
Here's a question. If you took skyrim, and do those things to it:
>Removed Quest Marker *
>Removed backdoor exit from every dungeon
>Made Quest descriptions more clear *
>Made every dungeon enemy static level *
>Made every NPC killable *
>With quests being failed if NPC related to them killed
>Made each dragon fight different *
>Added additional 2 front limbs to dragons
>Diversify draugr dungeons with more unique enemies *
>Added attributes
>Made perks actually unique and not just stat boosts *
>Separated armor pieces into more slots (* but female only)
>Added spears *
* was put where mod for that exists
Would that actually made game good?
9f8b40 No.15460161
>Morrowind has obligatory unofficial patches required to finish things like Thieves Guild due to pickpocket being tied to value and not weight
>Blind works backwards
>Skill and attribute buffs can be applied permanently
>medium armor
>Oblivion can be laid flat in minutes by repeatedly casting a cheap bound dagger skill over and over
>item duping
>being able to two hand and spells at the same time on top of that
>Literally all of Skyrim
Thanks but no thanks fuccboi.
d4f43a No.15460226
>>15460161
>being able to two hand and spells at the same time on top of that
I actually liked that fuck you. Magic casting while holding bow is fucking glorious addition to multi-class system. The fact it was not possible in skyrim is fucking stupid, you should be able to cast with a bow.
Talking about it, casting in skyrim was fucking hold a button chore, and one handed sword sucked compared to sword+shield. In the end magic in skyrim ended up for me the least fun thing to do, and in oblivion i used magic on my every playthrough.
Morrowind is a special case, that game is really good for pure mage builds.
340622 No.15460244
>>15445540
I thought Ob's Thieves Guild was better than the DB, sure it didn't have Whodunit but I liked how the entire second half of the questline was setting up the crazy final heist. Both of them had surprisingly good stories considering how shit the rest of the game's writing was.
>>15449605
Fixing the mechanics is a real pain in the ass, a lot of people use a mod that just randomizes the shit out of the level scaling (OOO) but I used one that simply removes the high grade equipment from most enemies and set my level really high in the console with some reasonable attributes and skills then disabled skill gains. Its a lot easier to ignore the leveling system than it is to actually account for it. I couldn't tell you what the mod was called though, it's been a long time since I've played and I've since deleted my install.
340622 No.15460254
>>15460226
Casting with a bow should have been like Dragon's Dogma where your spells are magic arrows that materialize in your hands.
b60d37 No.15460262
>>15460125
Nope, because i'm fairly sure there are dungeons that are built with a backdoor in mind, ie. A leap of faith, a one-way portal, trapdoor, and so on. When someone says "skyrim is for casuals", it is because skyrim was literally DESIGNED for casuals. Skyrim cannot be "fixed", because it wasn't broken from the start (not referring to bugs obviously, that's another can of worms entirely). Skyrim was, and always will be, a game for simple-minded casuals who need to burn an hour or two.
d4f43a No.15460266
>>15460244
Oblivion had 6 quest designers and 2 writers with 1 person making dungeons.
Skyrim had 5 quest writers and only 1 lead writer, and only 1 person returning from writing quests in oblivion. With 6 people working on level design and dungeons.
Morrowind had only 2 people working on writing quests
2 fucking people
d4f43a No.15460278
>>15460254
Dragon's Dogma is a japanese action game disguised as an RPG. In a western settings magic arrows is not popular idea. And certainly not part of elder scrolls lore.
Also i just regretted searching "magic archer" on the internet. Its all crash of clans results.
340622 No.15460285
>>15460266
What the fuck, they all had about the same development time too. And of the two people that returned from Oblivion to work on Skyrim of course Emil Pterodactyl had to be promoted to lead writer. A lot of people attribute the merits of Morrowind to Michael Kirkbride but I see it more as the lack of Emil Paraguay, as he's taken direct responsibility for the most egregious stuff that's been in Beth's newer games.
>>15460278
>In a western settings magic arrows is not popular idea
Yeah and neither is weird silt strider alien shit or anything else in Morrowind yet here we are.
>And certainly not part of elder scrolls lore.
Most is endless jungle.
c6d413 No.15460290
>>15460278
>action game disguised as an RPG
And TES 4 and 5 aren't?
If anything, DD is way more reliant on numbers and minmaxing than either of the two.
d4f43a No.15460299
>>15460285
I imagine having less writers has something to do with consistency and writer remembering his own writings and references. That's why bethesda games turn into theme parks. Because everyone tries to make bland quests to fit in with other writers they work with.
Fallout 4 had 8 main quest designers
and Emil Pagliarulo again as a lead writer again.
340622 No.15460315
>>15460290
DD is unquestionably a better game than those two but I wouldn't really say that its more of an RPG than them, there isn't a lot of roleplaying to be done in DD whereas despite the all the shitty writing, essential NPCs, and repetitive dragur tombs, you can still do quite a bit of roleplaying in Shitrim compared to most other RPGs. By roleplaying I mean the classical meaning of putting yourself in your character's shoes and doing what you think they would do, there's a lot of options even if none of them are fun or fleshed out.
>>15460299
I don't know if you had the displeasure yourself, but I actually played F4 to the end and the themepark is even more obvious than their previous games. No place has any connection to any other, people will reference Diamond city (the main city) but everything else is completely self contained. Even the factions have no relation to the rest of the world, the institute, brotherhood, and railroad all sit in their little bases sending you on fetch quests so generic that they might actually be procedural. You'd think the minutemen would try and connect things, but they're clearly all procedural too. They rely on generic settler dialogue so you can spread them all throughout the commonwealth but a settler living right next to the Brotherhood of Steel's blimp thing will have the exact same dialogue as one in the middle of nowhere.
c6d413 No.15460321
>>15460315
Classical meaning of RPG isn't "i can roleplay", it's "number-based game". You can't roleplay for shit in any of the Ultima, Wizardry or M&M games and yet they're still RPGs.
d4f43a No.15460330
I am now concerned about Emil Pagliarulo.
You should be aware this guy is taking over leadership in writing bethesda games.
8c03c6 No.15460356
>>15460330
>this guy is taking over leadership in writing shitty games
Oh noooo
d4f43a No.15460365
>>15460321
For me ideal rpg is when your choices actually matter, like VTM Bloodlines, Arcanum, Age of Decadence, Fallout 1, 2, New Vegas and Way of the Samurai series
340622 No.15460545
>>15460321
Where do you think the term RPG even came from? Tabletop RPGs have been around much longer and there is no videogame that exists with more involved roleplaying than the most shallow tabletop RPG.
>>15460365
If your choices are meaningless in a role playing game then you might as well not even be playing the game because the only roleplaying is happening in your head.
533917 No.15460695
>oblivion shutting down entire computer autosaving near anvil
Holy shit, it did it twice. I just checked. I can't fucking believe this.
How in the world its possible to crash this hard? I bet its problem somewhere in OBSE, but i didn't realized it had that much access to the computer to not just crash the game, but keep crashing the entire PC. Not even through bsod. I just had only 4 fucking mods (chasecamera, skip start, adventurers and Oblivion XP) running on this thing.
And it only started to get interesting.
afa2cf No.15460741
>>15460695
>How in the world its possible to crash this hard?
With the power of Gamebryo™: an engine developed in 1997!
It just works.
9b39c3 No.15460777
>>15460741
Okay anon its still me, its just every restart i would change ID, i just removed OBSE and Oblivion XP and reinstalled interface to remove elements of oblivion XP. Clean oblivion.exe still turns off my computer near anvil.
Fuck this shit, it might actually break something in my computer turning off instantly like that. Its fucking amazing something like this can even happen. I had no games prior to this doing that.
afa2cf No.15460835
>>15460777
How could Bethesda have known that using an engine built for Windows 95 and DOS would cause issues on modern computers
They still use Gamebryo, just a modified version of it.
32ffc8 No.15460868
>>15460835
I think the real issue is either in the fact my hardware configuration is "too new" for oblivion, and it results in crashes simply because of that.
Or my saved character is too broken because ALL bethesda games have saves eventually corrupting. From Morrowind to Fallout 4.
My main problem is that if its corrupted character i am playing as, why exactly near Anvil, and why exactly it turns off my entire computer.
1fa3e2 No.15461933
>>15460330
>Being concerned with the writing of games that never had a chance to be good
b6a9d1 No.15465264
>>15445206
Yes Morrowind and Skyrim really are shit in comparison
b6a9d1 No.15465281
>>15445620
Stop being mean to Fallout 3
it tried
9b0519 No.15466053
df0dc6 No.15466419
Do you guys think Todd's new project and TES6 will run on a new engine?
4b0203 No.15466448
Did my post about making a gay Argonian hot spring get deleted? WTF
6fc821 No.15466471
>>15450235
>Varg plays CKII
I wonder if he posts in /gsg/
00bd37 No.15468494
>>15457300
lolis hate pants
1fa3e2 No.15469538
4a554d No.15469705
I mean, I could jump dive into a pool of shit, too, but why would I want to?
1fa3e2 No.15469779
>>15469705
Please keep your obsession with feces somewhere else, heeb.
83c78b No.15470166
>All three elder scrolls
III, IV, and V
that's some george lucas shit right there friendo
b5a429 No.15470273
>>15466419
Talking about TES6 - Apparently there was a name "Redfall" trademarked.
https://trademarks.justia.com/881/10/redfall-88110679.html
It was trademarked this month.
The whole game might as well be High Rock and Hammerfall together, and be some kind of a remake/reimagining of Daggerfall.
87d8c4 No.15470281
>>15470273
It will be a Battle royale. Calling it now. It's not like they can dumb down the series any more anyways.
b5a429 No.15470294
>>15470281
Anon, they will obviously stop making anything multiplayer when fallout 76 flops greatly (i hope).
87d8c4 No.15470338
>>15470294
normalfags are actually excited at Fallout 76, so don't count on it flopping too hard. Especially since it's probably an intern project that didn't cost them shit. Funcom on the brink of bankruptcy did Conan Exiles, Bethesda has a lot of resources.
e0843d No.15470354
>>15470338
But its literally just Fallout 4 multiplayer with random perk system. I can't imagine people actually falling for that.
87d8c4 No.15470371
>>15470354
You underestimate the Bethesda cucks and normalfags.
4e658c No.15475161
>>15470294
>when fallout 76 flops greatly
Keep dreaming.
92f3dd No.15475186
>>15475161
It's sad that someone like that can't enjoy good video games. I feel bad for them, must be hard to find joy in any entertainment
e6dbb1 No.15475316
>>15451760
>playing a niggerguard in order to hit things
07db07 No.15475324
>>15445198
>Complete all quests in all three elder scrolls games vanilla with no mods.
>all three elder scrolls
4e658c No.15475393
>>15475316
You could do the exact same thing with a Nord AND get innate frost resistance, /pol/nigger. Learn math.
6d485c No.15475641
why does this fucker always do this?
35339b No.15475665
>>15475641
It's a bot dummy.
6d485c No.15475686
>>15475665
what would compel someone to make this bot?
6d485c No.15475796
a609e1 No.15475963
>>15475641
Please tell me you didn't actually take the time to draw that.
215735 No.15476119
>>15475641
>>15475686
These drawings are too high quality for a faggot like Aaron Lawson.
d4a7bf No.15476664
>>15460868
I suppose run over there on a new character to be sure, anon. With and without mods entirely.
If it still does that I'd just drop the game.
9c0751 No.15477511
>>15475686
>>15475641
I demand a template with a blank face for both