12f725 No.15437732
I heard some years ago Other M was considered canon and the Prime series was not, according to Nintendo. I have recently seen some comments, posted about one year ago, saying otherwise.
The reason I am asking this, and bear with me because it is stupid and autistic, is that I want to know how tall Samus actually is. Some rabid feminist, Amazonian fetishist friends of mine insist Samus is around 6 feet tall because of this obviously non-canon, but doesn't stop them from pulling it up every time we mention the topic Nintendo Power concept art of 6'3" tall Samus, which was probably based on a mistranslated sentence in the Super Metroid manual. However, Samus' real height was retconned in Other M, so that she looks like a rather average woman, maybe even on the short side, outside of her suit, while fairly tall inside her suit. This would make sense, considering they never officially specified Samus' height outside of the suit.
However, Zero Suit Samus in Brawl and Smash 4 seem to confirm Samus is around 5'11" tall, by comparing her to Mewtwo, which has an officially stated height of ~2 meters. However, that would make Mario around 5'0" tall, which would make Peach 6'0" tall as well, which would make Rosalina even taller, which would make Pauline in Mario Oddissey almost 10'0" tall, which is insane and probably means the scales are wrong.
So, please my autistic, manlet shortie fetishist ass: how tall is Samus?
f190bf No.15437868
Isn't this something you can just ask a search engine for?
c35dcf No.15437869
>>15437732
>Is Other M canon?
no
5259b0 No.15437885
Give up now, the "Nintendo Power is canon" are impossible to argue with on any game series. They just can't accept there can be multiple parallel versions of a story (like what happens in comics all the time). No, everything has to be in one gigantic clusterfuck universe.
c35dcf No.15437932
>>15437885
Thank the Zelda niggers and their insecurity that their action-adventure game series for kids isn't some bloated JRPG series with convoluted nonsensical lore so they can feel grown ups playing big mature games for mature gamers such as themselves.
b90d5f No.15437945
>>15437732
>However, Zero Suit Samus in Brawl and Smash 4 seem to confirm Samus is around 5'11" tall, by comparing her to Mewtwo, which has an officially stated height of ~2 meters. However, that would make Mario around 5'0" tall, which would make Peach 6'0" tall as well, which would make Rosalina even taller, which would make Pauline in Mario Oddissey almost 10'0" tall, which is insane and probably means the scales are wrong.
We're hitting autism levels that shouldn't even be possible.
c058f4 No.15437974
>>15437732
Does it matter? Either way it was dog shit.
12f725 No.15437976
>>15437868
I did. People are just arguing about it.
12f725 No.15437982
>>15437974
Petite Samus matters for my dong
0b212f No.15437991
>>15437945
I mean it's obvious they had to scale down some characters. Look at bowser in 64 or Ridley in literally every game he's been in compared to Smash. Olimar is a more exteme example where they upscaled him from about 2cm to be almost as tall as Mario. The sizes in Brawl are based on the perceptions of the character and game balance.
f190bf No.15437995
>>15437732
>>15437976
>>15437982
Just think about this. After Other M, Nintendo has proceeded to release a Prime spin-off, and Metroid 2 remake by a western dev, and announced Prime 4. I think that says a lot about what games they consider canon.
f3cb1e No.15438017
>>15437732
Samus's height in Other M is just fucking weird. Any scene with her and any male character has them being at least a full head taller than her in her power armor. But later in the game you run into both Melissa and Madeline Bergman, and Samus towers over both of them even more than the male characters tower over her.
This shit doesn't work no matter which way you slice it. If Samus is 6' tall, then all of the Galactic Federation men are fucking giants. And if Samus is closer to the average height for a woman, then both Madeline and Melissa are fucking tiny.
12f725 No.15438032
>>15437991
Apparently, the 1.55 meters height for Mario seems to be an official number. Not sure where is the number pulled from, but it gets thrown around a lot. Some people say he is actually 5'11", which would make Peach a literal giant. Extrapolating from the 1.55 m number (which honestly, makes sense, considering Mario seems like a total manlet), you can guess Peach's height is around 6 ft tall, and Rosalina's is 7 ft. If this were true, however, and considering Pauline is almost twice as tall as Mario, that would make her a literal giant.
2b848f No.15438042
>>15437732
But, op…Rosalina is indeed fucking huge. And Mario is short. And, yes, Samus was originally a tall Amazonian scale woman due to Chozo DNA, which was changed for Other M because of fags like you.
f190bf No.15438048
>>15438032
Maybe New Donk City is just a land of giants. Or MK people are just really small, and their standards for measurement are different from ours.
fdd947 No.15438060
12f725 No.15438065
>>15438042
>Rosalina is indeed fucking huge.
Not arguing that.
>And Mario is short.
Yes, we know. Not arguing that. But if we were to use the arguments of relative scale, then Pauline, who is a regular fucking human from not New York, should not be 10 feet tall. That size is inhumane.
>Samus was originally a tall Amazonian scale woman due to Chozo DNA
Samus was probably just tall. Power armors in many other media add a median of 4 to 5 inches to the wearer, so I am going to assume in Samus' case it was similar, which would make her around 1.75 meters outside of her armor, which is actually a fairly tall woman, just not Amazonian tall.
>which was changed for Other M because of fags like you
Here cometh the feminist Amazonian white knight defending his objectively shit fetish
6b2441 No.15438070
>>15437732
>having feminist friends
cf698b No.15438089
Until we see otherwise, Other M should be considered canon, but my opinion is the game will be ignored by Nintendo going forward and seriously retconned in the future.
My reasoning is: When shit like this happens, it's usually the latest version (in release chronology) of the story that is considered canon, and since Other M was the last entry to mention (or omit) certain events, it's the last correct one, until a newer game rectons that retcon.
Also, Samus is fucking tall. She is 6'3'' in the power-suit, and given the suit doesn't have heels or a huge cranial dome, she's still over six foot tall if you remove an inch of armour from top and bottom.
f190bf No.15438163
>>15438089
Except, if Other M was considered canon, literally every other game in the series has been retconned in some way or another, plus the, at least, somewhat canon manga, and the entire series ceases to make sense. Other M's story only works in a void, because it changes so many details, that you couldn't trust any previous game to have happened as they were depicted. Aside from Smash using its power suit design, Nintendo has completely stopped acknowledging it, as well. Along with them making two Prime series games since, it can safely be considered the abandoned step-child of the series.
acf057 No.15438239
>>15438032
Christ if only I could read that handwriting
f190bf No.15438283
>>15438239
It's pretty much saying the same thing as the typed text below it, just less accurate and with "flavor".
b38f5e No.15438315
>>15437732
>tfw 7' with Amazon fetish
>all women I have met with the sole exception of my mother are under 6'
12f725 No.15438322
>>15438315
Could be worse, you could be a 5'7" manlet with self esteem issues who likes petite women, despite most women being barely shorter than you.
;_;
e5c505 No.15438338
>>15438315
Well you could always go after your mother
88b0d9 No.15438349
>Is Other M canon?
It directly contradicts every Metroid game meaning that it can only be canon if everything released before it were noncannon. So, no, it isn’t canon
>How tall is Samus?
I’d love for her to return to being her Amazonian height due to her added Chozo DNA instead of the short girl Nintendo are fine with having, but alas.
d19a31 No.15438356
if Samus isn't 6'3'' and full of muscle then what's the point
b38f5e No.15438365
>>15438356
This.
>>15438322
At least there are women out there for you.
cf698b No.15438408
>>15438163
>Except, if Other M was considered canon, literally every other game in the series has been retconned in some way or another
Yeah, that's how retcon works.
I'm not defending Other M, or saying it works, I'm just saying that as a general rule the latest version of events is the "true" version.
And to further confuse the point, changing a detail only changes that detail, not the whole thing, so while changing the cold vulnerability detail in Other M retcons only that detail of Return of Samus, not the entire game.
While we're on the subject of Other M, it could have been good. Tying the entire controls to a single Wii remote was a mistake (although I appreciate the retro sentiment of bringing back "NES controls") but letting Sakamoto make a story driven game out of Metroid, which was previously entirely done via mise en scene, was a fucking mistake.
>>15438349
>It directly contradicts every Metroid game meaning that it can only be canon if everything released before it were noncannon.
Retcons usually only change specific details. For example, when Street Fighter retconned Ryu giving into the satsu no hadou after losing, instead of having him win the tournament with a Dragon Punch, it only changed that particular detail. The rest of the game still happened.
Retcons and the like are fucking weird, but I don't think it's as hard as trying to explain a sliding timeframe that most comics and shit use.
000000 No.15438500
>>15437732
It is canon if the IP holder says so. It is not if they say that it is not.
All fictional works are at the mercy of who has the money to buy their IP rights.
That is why discussing fiction is useless and amounts to nothing.
Tomorrow, Nintendo might put King Dedede in Metroid and say that it is canon, and it WILL be canon, because they own the whole universe of the games.
e634ee No.15438712
>>15438315
>mother over 6'
>has an amazon fetish
You want to fuck your own mother anon?
9a63dc No.15438776
>>15437945
We live in a world where the Quarian sweat analysis exists. This is just mild.
b3632f No.15438885
>However, that would make Mario around 5'0" tall, which would make Peach 6'0" tall as well
Do you think that's the real reason why Peach friendzoned Mario at the end of Odyssey? Because he's a tiny manlet that's shorter than her? Would make a lot of sense, since women have a known reputation for (figuratively and literally) looking down on manlets.
46682c No.15439168
>>15438032
What's the big deal? People that are 7' tall exist in reality. It's freakish (especially for a woman) but not IMPOSSIBLE. Considering Mario is a game about a magical kingdom with mushrooms that make you grow and flowers that make you spit fireballs and shit, a woman the size of a basketball player isn't the top of the "fantasy" list.
761340 No.15439238
>>15437932
>thinks pointing out simple connections between games in the same series is the same as some bloated convoluted nonsensical lore
I bet you think Inception is complicated too faggot.
ad954c No.15439460
Big girls are best girls.
Sorry about your homosexuality OP.
2b848f No.15439563
>>15438065
Hey, man, I like my things, you like yours, there are fewer /fit/ girls in Vidya outside fighters, and I'm not the one who started the thread asking for a character to be changed to fit my fetishes.
88b0d9 No.15439681
>>15438408
That’s the thing, anon. It’s retconning everything we know from the other games. Meaning it can only exist in a bubble where only it is canon.
6476bf No.15439687
8a0062 No.15439794
>>15438429
>first one
I was supposed to go out running but now I have this untameable erection.
d44d32 No.15439808
>>15437732
>Nintendo Power concept art of 6'3" tall Samus, which was probably based on a mistranslated sentence in the Super Metroid manual.
IIRC it's from the Japanese strategy guide where she was listed at 1,90m and 90kg. I think it was pic related, but not sure since I could only find an image of the cover.
>Is Other M and Smash canon?
Of course not.
286992 No.15439825
>>15439794
that's a big bike
4a6af9 No.15439887
Other M is canon in the same way Devil May Cry 2 is canon.
11e6a6 No.15440004
>canon
Canon is usually absolutely meaningless, especially in the case of series where multiple creators have put their work into it and are obviously going to hold their own opinions as to what matters. Especially now, when a company can apparently buy out the meta-history of your favorite IP to "make it canon" that fictional histories they never made and never were involved with now "didn't happen" like a ten year old play-fighting.
tl;dr the creators probably never gave a shit how tall she was, and now various people working on the franchise have made her whatever height suits them. Disney will eventually buy it and make her a fat mexican anyway, and the sooner you learn that doesn't actually mean anything the better.
2596b5 No.15440035
>>15437732
No. Here is an in depth rundown:
>Metroid 1/Zero mission: Samus goes to Zebes to destroy Mother Brain and the pirates. Zero mission fleshes this out more.
>How other M contradicts it:
When you start Zero mission, Samus makes a rather quick but silent planetfall, but when she leaves, she's shot down by a battalion of pirates. The reason she was able to make silent planetfall was because Adam engaged in a frontal assault over the planet, drawing the pirate's attention, but after Samus landed, Adam pulled back, letting the pirates believe they "won", but Ridley in his ship pursues them anyway. Only after Kraid is killed does the message reach Ridley that he needs to return to assist because of Samus' infiltration.
<Other M explicitly states that Samus broke ties with Adam much earlier and had no connection to him and that Adam was outright hostile to her, when in reality, she'd happily shove her armcanon in his face to get him to back off if she didn't like what he was doing, but also that HE would be willing to help her anytime he could. On top of that, a statement is made that Zebesians/the pirates are basically animals needing to be controlled by a powerful authority, however after Ridley and Mother brain are destroyed, they catch samus trying to leave, successfully shoot her down, are still collecting Chozo artifacts, and very plainly rebuild Ridley in Prime.
>Metroid 2/Samus Returns: Samus is sent to destroy all the Metroids on SR-388.
>How Other M Contradicts it:
The entire Metroid themed plot and "alleged reason" Adam died was because the GF were breeding metroids who "might" have a resistance to cold. Metroid 2 openly showcases the Metroids, upon molting on SR-388, are immune to cold. Samus Returns, the update, showcases that a powerful blast of ice on a molt's nucleus will slow it down a bit, but the molt will still be completely capable of fighting. On top of that, Fusion explicitly tried to re-create the molts by reproducing SR-388's environment.
>Super Metroid: Samus goes to Zebes for round 2.
>How Other M contradicts it:
It couldn't exist simply by virtue of mother brain and ridley and every other big pirate player needing assistance from the zebesians to get back into shape, but as Other M pointed out, the zebesians are just dumb animals when not telepathically controlled by Mother Brain.
>The Prime series: Pirates find blue goo and make science and all hell breaks loose.
>How Other M contradicts it:
Again, Pirates are just mindless animals who can't make science. Also Samus freaks out when encountering ridley, someone she'd fought no less than 4 times by the end of Prime 3 and 5-6 times by the end of super metroid. But oh no, 7 times is just too much to handle.
>Metroid Fusion: Samus fights the X parasite on the BSL station in a new suit.
>How Other M Contradicts it:
So there are several scenes where Samus can't form her suit or her suit falls away or whatever during other M's story, but the most blatant one is when she's shot in the back by a basic freeze gun which knocks her out. Fusion starts with Samus being assaulted by an X. When she gets back to her ship, she loses consciousness. Fusion explicitly shows that if Samus is knocked out while the suit is active, it goes into a lockdown mode and the only way to get at her body is to surgically slice it away. On top of that is Samus' entire attitude in Fusion, which is full of a lot more snark, a lot more "fuck you I'm doing what I want" and a lot more of her openly butting heads with the GF and their idiotic mindset, regardless of what authority they claim to have over her, such as blowing up the BSL and SR-388 when tey told her "mission complete, leave the rest to us". Compare to Other M Samus who openly just bent over and spread her cheeks for whatever dickery the GF felt like throwing her way for whatever reason.
Quite literally NO game agrees with Other M's events.
cc9d81 No.15440328
>>15440035
Nice to have an updated version, thanks.
cbfd08 No.15440455
>Zebesians have organized their societies along the lines of the lobsters.
>STILL not at the top of the galaxy's dominance hierarchy.
Checkmate, Peterson.
f190bf No.15441598
>>15438408
You're ignoring how important those details are, though. If Zebesians were just mindless animals when left to their own devices, Zero Mission's post-MB section and Super Metroid could not have happened at all. If evolved Metroids weren't immune to cold, killing them off in II would have been much less dangerous. If Samus' suit dissipated the moment she lost consciousness, the entire intro and design of the Fusion suit are null. If Other M is the first time Samus directly worked with the Federation since her departure from it, Prime 3 could not have happened at all. It's not a case of "oh, all these games happened, just some minor details are different", it's "integral plot points and characterizations in all these games are nullified, meaning the entire series is essentially rewritten into what might as well be an AU setting."
4ea8aa No.15443097
Metroid canon has been fucked for a long time a waaaay before Other M. The over-expansion of the universe that started with Prime beyond Zebes/SR388, the retconning of Ridley's importance during the Fusion/Prime/Zero Mission era and the introduction of the Metroid Manga elaborating on some points as canon but also being a weird adaption having non-canonical parts made the timeline really fucky at parts. There's no consistency anymore, contradictions abroad and retcons everywhere.
This is a far cry from how the series was in Super Metroid, which had a very simple plot, very simple progression and every character had a clear defined role.
How fucked the Pirate Prime 1 logs were still make me laugh to this day.
Speaking of canon, reminder that in almost all the Metroid games Samus has a relatively large bosom which can be proven and viewed thanks to in-game sprites, concept art and in-game models.
cf698b No.15443146
>>15443097
> How fucked the Pirate Prime 1 logs were still make me laugh to this day.
They were fucking funny. The ones about being afraid of the Hunter were good, but the logs about the failed morph ball experiments had me laughing out loud.
> Samus has a relatively large bosom
Most important canon point right here. Smash Ultimate is definitely NOT CANON.
69aa17 No.15443447
>>15437732
>which is insane and probably means the scales are wrong.
Of course the scales in Smash are wrong, Olimar is one inch and Kirby is supposedly 8 inches.
c81e6e No.15443460
>>15437732
>Taking canon seriously in Metroid
4ea8aa No.15443474
>>15443146
I was more referring to how Pirate logs in Prime 1 had to be rewritten because they completely contradicted each other, but yes Pirate logs are overall pretty good. Science Team having vapor for brains and failure to reconstruct the morphball are notable examples.
My favorite Pirate logs are actually from Prime 2, as Pirates were the biggest jobbers there storywise and trying to recoup after getting wrecked in Tallon IV and their logs were just them bitching about much the local fauna, The Federation, The Ing, Dark Samus and Samus are fucking them up and it's great.
cc9d81 No.15443711
>>15443474
Keep in mind that there are differences in the PAL/NTSC logs and for the Trilogy there were some changes as well iirc. The trilogy is accepted as the ultimate correct version, this was also conformed by Ninty, again, iirc.
e5a1ee No.15443732
>>15443474
The passive aggressive infighting between them was golden, but I still think the best is them shitting themselves at the realization there's not one, but two hunters now fucking them up, and how they have got to be cursed to deserve such a fate.
f3cb1e No.15443753
>>15443474
>>15443711
From what I remember, the contradictions were due to one log that got changed between the original release and later ones. It was specifically about the origin of Metroid Prime, which is, well, full of plot holes no matter which games and versions of those games you take into account.
It's not quite Other M retcon levels of bad, but it's still pretty bizarre how poorly they managed to fit it together.
cf698b No.15443778
>>15443474
I only played the PAL version and didn't now there were changes from the NTSC version. So I looked them up and holy hell there is a lot of shit they changed.
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_version_differences
cf698b No.15443786
Also it just occured to me that if the Chozo created the Metroids specifically to fight the X Parasite on SR388, then why are there metroids on Tallon IV?
And how could they be there so long that the Chozo had to seal away a metroid, in some fucking ancient ruins, because it got infected by the phazon at the impact crater?
cc9d81 No.15443812
>>15443786
Wouldn't that be that the space pirates have succeeded in bringing some metroids to T4, via normal space travel? I mean, not all holding tubes were breakable.
Can't make any sense of your second question.
cf698b No.15444047
The Chozo were the ones who sealed the Metroid Prime within the impact crater ruins using the relics. The Pirates showed up after the fact. So it couldn't have been a Pirate-bred metroid that turned into Metroid Prime.
But then there's the fact that the Chozo created the metroids specifically to fight the X Parasite on SR388, and the metroids are native to that planet.
So how did the metroid that got corrupted by the phazon to become Metroid Prime get there in the first place?
3a3fe4 No.15444145
>>15443732
More space pirates comics please
425c6b No.15444244
>>15444047
The Chozo fled SR388 once the metroids started evolving in response to SR388's biome, and were no longer controllable. Prime takes place before II, so the metroids couldn't have traveled space on their own, which means that someone had to take them off-world. This could easily be explained if the Chozo civilization on Tallon IV originated from SR388, but it apparently originates from Elysia. It also doesn't explain why Prime's mutations included a humanoid face. There shouldn't have been any humans involved at all.
e5a1ee No.15444257
>>15444145
Have some kind of vintage shit.
e5a1ee No.15444275
>>15444257
>>15444243
I don't think I ever noticed the bedridden one getting a boner in the last panel.
d27d51 No.15444311
>>15444275
I think it's a fairly recent shop.
e5a1ee No.15444375
>>15444311
Yeah, digging in my files, the one I've got (2011 save date) he doesn't even so much as have his eyes open.
787d59 No.15444376
>>15444311
>shop
you flatter me
157eef No.15444548
>>15437732
Samus has slight shape shifting powers due to the stuff that fucking bird alien race did to her. I mean she can fit in a morph ball for fuck sake. I think she has some minor control over her size.
95f5df No.15444584
Sorry, OP, you have shit taste and Samus is an Amazonian waifu.
2596b5 No.15444655
>>15444311
>>15444376
Caught me, I saved the shop just because I laughed like a retard when I saw it.
6d29dc No.15445267
>>15444536
>Bowser Jr can suck Waluigi off while standing up
nice
1bccd6 No.15445320
>>15444536
Is Rosalina that big actually? she didn't seem like a giant in Galaxy which should be her canon. If anything she is the same height as Peach, notice how in that comparison Mario's hat reaches a bit above Peach's shoulders and on this picture from Galaxy 2 with Rosalina floating off the ground its near that level, except he's looking at her face so his head isn't straight but if it was and she wasn't floating it would be the about the same height as Peach
bab04e No.15445818
>>15445320
Shes not really a giant so much as everybody else is just really short.
If we assume the New Donk City citizens are just nomal humans standing around 5'8 to 6'2, she's just a slightly tall girl at best.
>>15445267
Why is it that your mind was drawn to "Bowser Jr sucking Waluigi cock"
3a3fe4 No.15445855
>>15444275
>>15444257
>>15444243
Thank you. I really appreciate it
a22dd1 No.15445868
>>15444257
LMAO 2 Geemer
Actually I never saw it before
a22dd1 No.15445873
>>15445818
He probably noticed Bowser first, his eyes drifted to Bowser Jr. like a faggot, then followed the purple line into the first bulge he saw
e5a1ee No.15447973
>>15445855
>>15445868
There's a few I'm hesitant to post because I'm not sure if they're still in the "macro that was cancerously stolen-tier" phase of existence, or if enough time has passed where reposting them would loop back into being acceptable (if just as a look back on history).
4ee676 No.15448077
>>15444536
I want a tiny Ribbon, Adeliene and Kirby to tag team my dick.
245819 No.15449970
>>15437732
Smash Bros. scale doesn't mean jack shit, dumbass. It's a series about toys coming to life and fighting. Common sense should tell you there is no size consistency between toys. Look at Pikachu and Olimar, they're obviously much bigger in Smash compared their games of origin (or everyone else is smaller). Smash Bros. games rescale all their characters for balance.
I hope you weren't actually this fucking stupid. If you were trolling, you got me.
4ea8aa No.15452606
>>15449970
I made the mistake of looking at Pikachu's model for too long in Smash bros. Pikachu is goddamn huge in Smash and once you notice it in-game I was ruined every time he appeared next to a modest sized character like Mario for a long time afterward.
2596b5 No.15455520
>>15449970
>>15452606
what's funny is Sakurai mentioned it several times.
ae4370 No.15455551
Other M basically pushes itself out of canon by not lining up with other games, which is fine by me,
ae4370 No.15455560
>>15455520
When I was a kid I used to wonder how Olimar could possibly work as a Smash character, since he was so small. I theorised that he could pilot a giant mech made of Pikmin. Then I stopped being autistic, and worrying about shit that don't matter.
dda58a No.15455639
>>15455619
>>15455610
>>15455598
>>15447973
>>15444275
>>15444257
>>15444243
If Nintendo released a Paper Metroid game where the pirates acted like they do in Tube comics, I would buy both a Switch and that game at full price, in spite of the fact that I'm normally a super cheapscape who only buys games when they're on sale.
dda58a No.15455667
>>15455547
Man can you imagine how much it would suck to live in a world where the mice are a foot tall and can stun you with electricity before gnawing your eyes out?
d27d51 No.15455670
>>15455639
Seconding. It'll never happen anyway.
5a248f No.15455716
>>15455639
>paper metroid
Yeah it will happen as soon as they make paper zelda.
dda58a No.15455776
>>15455737
No no no, Ridley isn't Bowser in this game, he's Jr. Troopa. You fight him like 5 or 6 times and every time he gets a new prefix on his name
>Ridley
>Meta-Ridley
>Omega-Meta-Ridley
>Neo-Omega-Meta-Ridley
>Neo-Omega-Meta-Ridley X
etc
bf8fe4 No.15455818
>>15455776
That sounds really great.
dda58a No.15455875
>>15455818
Some other key points:
>Kraid is one big walking fat joke. You can only hurt him by force-feeding him missiles when he belches. Also instead of weird claw missiles, he shoots giant forks out of his belly.
>Metroids talk. They ask nicely before draining your energy (although they will still do it even if you say no, and when they say they won't leave you a lifeless husk, they're lying)
>Partners include the Prime 3 bounty hunters, an etecoon riding a dachora, and the baby metroid.
>The Chozo are not extinct, they're just hiding. They're very good at hiding (though obviously the player will notice, but the characters never will)
bf8fe4 No.15455907
>>15455875
>Prime 3 bounty hunters
Don't you mean the Hunters bounty hunters?
dda58a No.15455935
>>15455907
Half of them are evil, and they don't have as much personality as the Prime 3 hunters have. Also the Prime 3 hunters deserve more screen time because having them all get killed was a big waste of potential IMO
cf698b No.15456784
>>15444548
> I mean she can fit in a morph ball for fuck sake. I think she has some minor control over her size.
The morph ball is half her size in 2D games or about a third her size in 3D games. If you sit on the ground and hug your knees in a "ball" shape you're well below being a third of your size.
80d456 No.15457227
>>15439238
There are no connections between the games aside from the big things like Link, Zelda, and Ganon, there is no overarching story, you're an idiot if you think there is.
e5a1ee No.15457559
>>15455639
I wish, and you'd think it would be simple enough to do, but it either won't happen or it'll be in line with sticker star/color splash quality.
>No crumpled paper morph ball Samus.
>You'll never party up with paper versions of Concept Art Admiral Dane (the pirate looking one), a young Luminoth warrior priest, a disgruntled space pirate scientist whose Make Science! kept producing useful results and was jailed for it, a Chozo ghost with unfinished business, Rundas, and a Steamlord.
>Ridley will never be in the "Paper Bowser" position: evil, but not king shit on the block, and whose antics and playable sections are entertaining.
>No cameo by Captain Falcon in various bars on whatever world(s) the game is set on, looking for new targets to bounty hunt and information about (ala how Luigi has his own story in the background on TTYD).
962032 No.15457624
>>15457227
>MM directly references ocarina of time with link having a direct flashback to Hyrule and literally carrying the titular ocarina
>WW directly references Zora's and the great deku tree as well as depicting the 7 sages in Hyrule castle
>TP indirectly implying that the Twilight tribe (or whatever) had involvement with the creation of Majoras mask
<Nintendo uses this as an excuse to shoehorn every spinoff game into a convoluted timeline split 3 ways to subvert expectations just to market Skyward Sword as this grand prequel to the entire series which ends up reconning OoT anyway
I agree that the timeline is stupid but don't act like they didn't try to connect the games to each other for at least a brief period.
e5a1ee No.15457636
>>15457624
Honestly, they should have just had the double split of OoT/MM/TP and OoT/WW/PH/ST, and separate continuities for the classic games (LoZ, Link's Adventure, ALttP, Link's Awakening), the Oracle Games, and the Capcom games. Would make more sense that way that trying to cram everything into one base continuity, and by way of a "hero dies and fails" clause at that.
962032 No.15457673
>>15457636
By keeping it ambiguous Nintendo essentially did just that. Of course they couldn't let everyone keep their head cannon now could they. Not when you need to market a waggle simulator to man children.
DID I MENTION SKYWARD SWORDS SUCKS SO MUCH DICK IT RETROACTIVELY RUINED OTHER LESS SHIT ZELDA GAMES
dc9bec No.15457701
>>15437732
It doesn't matter if it's canon or not because nothing from Other M has carried over to other games in the series. None of the weird bullshit or retcons they inserted into Other M has made it's way into the other games. The long argued about suit concentration thing was a concept introduced in Zero Mission and is a weird thing that's only every talked about in Other M.
Like, I guess the way it's supposed to work is that Samus's suit WAS a physical object until she was shot down at the start of the Zero Mission chapter? Then she did the Chozo trial and now can just concentrate it on? I'ts not clear.
cf698b No.15457757
>>15457624
Some games are connected, but trying to make it as if every game in the series is connected to every other game in a linear timeline (split timeline or not) is just stupid.
Different versions of the same story, with different tellings and different "side stories" depending on the culture/age that tells them, like how versions of King Arthur differ greatly from early medieval folk lore to renaissance art to industrial novels.
cc9d81 No.15458641
>>15455639
>>15457559
Why not coin it in /agdg/? It actually sounds like it could be an amazingly fun fangame!
e5a1ee No.15458875
>>15458641
Because it's obvious how Nintendo reacts to fangames these days. One would be better off making their own not-PM IP in the style of it. "Cardstock [X]" or whatever, but you'd need X to exist already for the nature of the subseries to work, unless just rolling with the style as an original thing.