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69316b No.15414109
Containment thread II is on last page. New containment.
Dengeki Magazine results have been released. This is what japan wants.
BIG unofficial ballot was made, and these are the results (source: sourcegaming)
As it is looking, these are the most possible candidates
>Isaac
>skull kid
>Geno
>paper mario
>Bandana Dee
>Banjo Kazooie
>Lloyd Irving
>Shadow (echo, Vergeben)
>Isabelle (Echo, Vergeben)
2nd tier, but still likely:
>Dixie
>Rex and Pyra
>ARMs rep
>rythmn heaven rep
8b4e21 No.15414113
I don't want Xenoblade 2 reps. I want more original Xenoblade reps instead.
69316b No.15414114
Dengeki Magazine Results
big ballot results
Mark ate my post .
74f95c No.15414119
>>15414114
>Banjo&Kazooie this high
03ecfa No.15414127
>>15414113
Unlikely. Xeno 2 is the most popular Xenoblade game by far, and it's also the most relevant one.
>>15414114
It disappoints me that Banjo is the go-to representation of the 5th generation, alongside Cloud, Spyro and Crash, only Banjo of those being closely related to Nintendo. I guess it makes him the most likely Rare/Microsoft representative. Never liked the games or the character.
69316b No.15414130
>>15414119
you better believe it anon
5a2856 No.15414131
>>15414114
Isn't there some other Paper Mario character they could use? I like the idea of representing the series, but do we want another character who's just Mario?
69316b No.15414141
>>15414131
Paper Mario using partners and switching them with down+B would be pretty cool. Could switch B, side B and up Bs with it
03ecfa No.15414144
>>15414131
It would either have to be a villain (only really two to choose from, three of the games just had Bowser), or a partner, which would be like picking a random party member from a Final Fantasy game. I do agree with Paper Mario himself being a lame representation of Mario RPGs, though. Seems like Geno would probably be the best while also being somewhat likely. He was pretty plot-critical and you can't really describe SMRPG without him.
5a2856 No.15414149
>>15414127
Who would you pick? Gex?
69316b No.15414150
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Friendly reminder the japanese stream is still up.
00d2e2 No.15414156
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>>15414109
>isabelle as an echo fighter
Please let it happen
c217a1 No.15414158
>>15414114
>Elma
>Sans
>That high
that second picture is bullshit
c217a1 No.15414162
>>15414150
That's weird, what does it say? that it's been delayed?
74f95c No.15414164
>>15414130
Like, i'm not against B&K in smash, i'm just surprised that japs care about them.
03ecfa No.15414166
>>15414149
Spyro and Crash would be funny, since they skipped PSASRB, but I can't really think of anyone who'd be that fun as a representative of the era. For Rare, though, Battletoads would be fun characters, especially if they kept as true to the classic games with them as they did with Mega Man and Simon Belmont.
>>15414156
This. I'm curious if she's too new to the series to belong, but I'm expecting her to show up in the next AC, whatever that may be. It depends on that, I think.
69316b No.15414172
>>15414156
Vergeben, the leaker who has been right about everything so far, has stated isabelle is an echo fighter, and Incineroar/8th gen pokemon is confirmed. Forgot 8th gen pokemon in the OP
>>15414162
I don't know. Can anyone speak moonrunes?
>>15414164
Japs love Rare, SNES DKC games and Banjo. Miyamoto always looked at it down, whether as jealousy or "not true nintendo material", but the japs always loved rare in its golden era
The reason dixie is so high is because of DKC2
69316b No.15414184
>>15414179
I agree. Xenoblade 2 is just gachashit with a generic story. Shulk's game was better
b81783 No.15414194
>They add isaac to the game
>It's Isaac from the binding of issac
03ecfa No.15414198
>>15414162
>>15414172
Jewgle translate roughly says "The broadcast has been postponed. Regarding the new broadcast schedule, we will comment at a later time."
8b4e21 No.15414202
>>15414194
Please god no. I want edmund to stay far the fuck away from Nintendo.
421e9d No.15414208
>>15414202
What's the matter? Don't like Bedpan Macguffin and his WACKY half finished DLC they sold as two DLCs and time locked things in the dlc to some guy digging up a penny in nebraska?
e8debc No.15414212
>>15414114
Why do nips like hat goomba so much?
1a8781 No.15414213
>>15414162
>>15414172
>>15414198
Have you guys not heard? There was apparently a pretty big earthquake in Hokkaido. Nintendo decided to postpone because of it. No new time or date yet.
>>15414127
>It disappoints me that Banjo is the go-to representation of the 5th generation
To be fair, Nintendo didn't really come up with many new 1st-party characters during that generation.
03ecfa No.15414215
>>15414213
>Have you guys not heard? There was apparently a pretty big earthquake in Hokkaido. Nintendo decided to postpone because of it. No new time or date yet.
No, we heard. It's just surprising that the japanese stream is still up and scheduled, when the US one was cancelled.
>To be fair, Nintendo didn't really come up with many new 1st-party characters during that generation.
True enough, unfortunately. Still, I'd rather not settle because it' the only thing they have.
c7f5c5 No.15414229
>>15414109
>Isaac
>Geno
>ever happening
Neither of them are Ridley tier. Deal with it faggot.
74f95c No.15414234
>>15414212
>Why do nips like hat goomba so much?
"hat goomba" with a spear
do we even have a spear fighter yet?
69316b No.15414239
>>15414215
>the intern forgot to take it down
>they all evacuated the premises for the day due to relief/the incident
>we get the japanese direct because they forgot to take it down
I think it's pretty sinister that they live the stream on just to give people false hope
14eecc No.15414254
>>15414141
>Paper Mario switching partners
>Goombella/ Goombario functions as this games Codec/Palutena’s wisdom easter egg.
>you can choose between original and TYD partners
>down B throws out Kooper/Koop’s Shell
>side B tosses out Bombette/Bobbery
>Up B brings out Parakarry/Paper Airplane mode for upward mobility
>Final Smash has Lady Bow/Vivian make Mario invincible while the Star Sprites/Crystal Stars rain their power on the stage.
>Stage is the actual stage from the games that switches between several recognizable Paper Mario locations like Rogueport and the Glitz Pit
>Rawk Hawk/Hawk Hogan as an assist trophy.
I never knew how much I wanted this.
8b4e21 No.15414260
>>15414254
Yes you did, don't fucking say you didn't, because you did.
69316b No.15414273
>>15414254
I can imagine Bow slapping with the fan as the jab.
011099 No.15414284
>>15414278
A man can also be gay
69316b No.15414285
>>15414234
There's a reason why we don't have a spear fighter. It's just a longer sword with a tipper. If Marth is already A-tier, a spear user would be S tier.
74f95c No.15414299
>>15414254
>Vivian
I can't wait for the trap vs tranny shit flinging
03ecfa No.15414305
>>15414299
It's not gay if the localization said so.
0b8de4 No.15414306
>>15414278
Yes he can because she already got deconfirmed
4ff11d No.15414324
>>15414305
Retcons fix everything.
>>15414316
The choice is obvious.
d5ff34 No.15414358
>>15414109
>>15414114
>>15414130
I'm 100% against B&K being in smash. I don't want the cries of the neckbeard manchildren that still fawn over this game to ever be heard. On top of that, Rare is now unaffiliated with Nintendo, and they definitely aren't trying to shovel sales like with all of the Fire Emblem characters.
Bring in nuts and bolts as an assist trophy
80c96c No.15414372
>>15414213
>To be fair, Nintendo didn't really come up with many new 1st-party characters during that generation.
なんで?
03ecfa No.15414377
>>15414358
You could say the same about Mega Man, Simon Belmont and especially Cloud.
4edfed No.15414382
Smash needs another FE character. Maybe a cavalier of some sort, to show how good they've been throughout the series.
08c65a No.15414385
>>15414358
I hope he gets in and that it just ruins everything for you.
08c65a No.15414394
>>15414382
I think they need another sword-wielding lord.
4edfed No.15414405
>>15414394
Or another mage, like Micaiah.
5f4245 No.15414503
69316b No.15414552
>30minutes for the direct
>the japanese direct is still up
294cbd No.15414814
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if the Japanese direct still shows and if Isacc, whether he's an assist or in, uses Earthquake. Hell for that matter, anyone using an earthquake-esque move. I know it'll be delayed anyway but still.
fe36ff No.15415003
There is only one character that deserves to be added in and you know it
9d27df No.15415256
>>15415217
>overall low quality
>character portraits don't have equal quality
>one of the tethers on the bird balloon isn't connected as seen in the shadow
what the fuck is skull kid even posing for
883d46 No.15415815
>>15415217
>them shadows
>switch cant even render that well on hdmi port
yeah its fake but a cool one at that.
also skull kid taunting looks like how he does in majoras mask
d66503 No.15415947
>>15415217
fake but I would love a new pokefloat stage
4ff11d No.15415992
>>15415217
Neat, but obviously fake. Where's Dee's shadow? Also, the timer font is different.
5f4245 No.15416505
>>15415217
I hate old Pokéfloats, but I want a new one with new models and less bullshit. Also make the floats follow a parade underneath.
15f018 No.15416606
>>15414212
probably to remind sakurai that theres more medieval weaponry than fuckin swords.
>>15414119
>>15414164
im wondering if this is a list of who they expect or a list of who they want. some of them were memeing about western pandering. or maybe japan is just overrun with furries. they wanted wolf back pretty bad, if these polls mean anything.
also, reminder that these are just small polls and not the ballot results, what kind of readers does dengeki magazine attract?
6966a2 No.15416620
>>15415217
Fake, but a quality fake. Fuck, I really want Pokefloats HD now.
15f018 No.15417346
>>15414316
if birdo isnt a female she would make it one.
0b8de4 No.15417429
Reminder to never give up on your hopes and dreams.
0b8de4 No.15417432
>>15417429
Nothing is impossible, no matter what.
711dbf No.15417548
>>15417432
>>15417429
Whoever made these made a fine fucking job.
15f018 No.15417556
>>15417429
>>15417432
never ever say never ever
1f7b31 No.15417748
>>15414184
Xenoblade 1 was every bit as generic shounen JRPG trope filled as 2 was shounen anime trope filled. The games mirror each other and track each other in various ways. Aside from the anime art style and stronger anime influence in general, in line with older Xenogames I don't know why XBC1fags get so upset over 2, the game retroactively makes 1's end better and fills in several plotholes. The gacha whining is also mostly unwarranted. Half of the blades in the game are non-gacha, and it's largely the better half. You don't need to roll a single random core crystal to beat the game and can even do some of the most powerful postgame builds without using any gachablades.
2 is definitely going to be the best selling Xenogame of all time and its a franchise with a history that goes back 20 years. I'm pretty sure it's going to get a rep. I'd actually prefer Malos to Rex mostly because it's easier to tell that Malos is a part of the same franchise as Shulk due to the Monado, since Rex doesn't get his without Pneuma and a lot of people couldn't even tell that her sword is in fact a Monado. There's also the issue of Pyra being dressed like a sci-fi prostitute with giant breasts that can't really be nerfed because of how prominent a part of her design they are. Lora would be fun too but she's a DLC character who's never going to be as iconic as other options even including Coldsteel with her.
98375b No.15417778
>>15417748
>xenotrash fan tries to defend Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>the gacha complaints are unwarranted
>y-you don’t need to do the gacha so it’s fine that it’s in the game in any capacity!
I get that you like absolute bottom of the barrel japshit, but come on.
9931a8 No.15417807
>nintendo direct delayed due to earthquake
>earthquake
ISAAC CONFIRMED
15f018 No.15417810
>>15417748
>>15417778
i wonder how many people these days would be upset about the capsule machine vendors in the megaman battle network games. never heard anyone complain about it so far.
8f75ca No.15417850
>>15417548
His name is BestGuyEver on YouTube and he's a pretty decent content creator if you're into weeb shit.
Seriously, he did a three hour dissertation on the Kingdom Hearts synopsis. There's a 4 hour one for Final Fantasy. He also weebs out about One Piece regularly. I am a big fan.
dd838e No.15417861
>>15417748
>the game retroactively makes 1's end better
Eh, I feel like it ruins the whole Monado concept and Alvis.
>and fills in several plotholes
Which?
9931a8 No.15417907
>>15414358
Say what you want about Banjo-Kazooie but their games helped define the N64 very much in the same way that Mega Man and Simon Belmont helped define the NES. It was as big for the N64 as DKC was for the SNES. And there are other characters who probably wouldn't even be remembered today if it weren't for Smash Bros, like Captain Falcon, Fox, Pit, etc, but yet they were in because they had games that were staples for their systems. The fact that Banjo-Kazooie remain relevant and have such huge outcry is incredible and a testament to how truly iconic they were. They're not Nintendo characters, but they're pretty much the only main character Nintendo staple left out of Smash Bros.
NES:
>Super Mario Bros.
>Legend of Zelda
>Kirby's Adventure
>Mega Man
>Castlevania
>Punch-Out
>Metroid
SNES:
>Donkey Kong Country Trilogy
>Star Fox
>F-ZERO
>Super Mario World
>Super Metroid
>Link to the Past
>Yoshi's Island
>Earthbound
>Mega Man X
>Street Fighter
>Final Fantasy
N64:
>Super Mario 64
>Ocarina of Time
>Majora's Mask
>Star Fox 64
>F-ZERO X
>Kirby 64
>Yoshi's Story
>Banjo-Kazooie
The other characters I can think of who are as iconic as Banjo-Kazooie and staples for Nintendo systems would be Goemon, Ghosts N' Goblins, Bubble Bobble, Contra, Tetris, Excitebike, Double Dragon, Battletoads, etc. But with those you could argue it's the games that are iconic and not the characters, whereas Banjo-Kazooie themselves are the most defining feature of their games.
d260f0 No.15417937
>>15417907
The gay bear and his ugly bird can fuck right off tbh.
9931a8 No.15417955
>>15414130
Where's that art from? I want to say it looks legit, but something looks slightly off.
>>15414278
I like Krystal, but I wouldn't want her playable in Smash Bros.
>>15415003
After seeing him in Hyrule Warriors, I'd agree.
>>15417937
You sound like a born after '98 babby or someone who's first console was a PS1 or 6th gen console.
8b4e21 No.15417962
>>15417937
But they won't, tbh, and there's not a single fucking thing you can do about it fam.
15f018 No.15417986
>>15417937
okay, thanks grunty.
>>15417955
>I like Krystal, but I wouldn't want her playable in Smash Bros.
whys that? tidal wave of yiff? i wouldnt mind having an athletic wizard. lord knows theyll never let us have anything like that from fire emblem. im sure it exists.
>>15417962
thanks doc
69316b No.15418052
>>15417748
are you retarded
Xenoblade 2 is EVEN MORE of a generic cliche-filled otaku bait and fanservice pandering game, except it's also gacha, grindy, and even MORE generic.
I don't want any more anime weeb shit in smash. Enough xenoblade, enough fire emblem
9931a8 No.15418068
>>15417986
I feel there are characters more deserving, she'd be a last addition once everyone more notable is added, like Dixie Kong or even having Leon as a Wolf echo. Besides she already the fits assist trophy role very nicely. Something just seems odd about making her playable, but I can't quite describe it. Her design really only fits for the games she's in and other inclusions on the side like assist trophy, seems weird to put so much attention and status towards her or representing her as an icon of Star Fox. But I wouldn't mind if she was playable, it just feels she doesn't have a lot she contributes to the Star Fox series as a whole. She doesn't really have the same status as Peach or Zelda either.
>athletic wizard
That's what Arvis is for, we'd get a Fire Emblem villain rep and pure tome user out of it too.
>>15418052
>enough fire emblem
Enough sword users or post-Awakening Fire Emblem I'd say. I wouldn't mind Arvis, Ephraim, Hector, etc, I think what matters is characters who are actually iconic and worthwhile.
1f7b31 No.15418231
>>15415003
>>15418073
Better him than Skull Kid.
Tingle
-Has enough things for a moveset without making shit up
-Appeared in multiple games as a major supporting character with a personality
-Even has games where he's the main character
-Whacky, kooky, people like him for his character
Mask goomba
-Does almost nothing on his own, just a puppet of the mask
-Appears in one game where he isn't even in control of his own actions, every other appearance is as a goomba
-Not even the sort of boss that actually interacts with you throughout the story like Gannondorf was in WW/OOT, after the first cycle he just sits on the clock tower waiting for you to come kill him (probably because he's a goomba and that's how they act)
-People only like him because he was in their favorite Zelda game and was iconic of that game, not because he was a memorable character in any way aside from being the masketta man
I would rather have happy mask salesman than skull kid. Shit I'd rather have a BOTW supporting character over him and I didn't even like BOTW. I'd even take Girahim over him despite the fact that I hated Skyward Sword. I liked Majora's Mask but how can you actually think that skull kid, of all things, is actually a good character that you'd want to play in this game? If they want MM representation there should be a young link alt costume with his gear from that game.
15f018 No.15418235
>>15418162
you leave my leprechaun daughter alone
d6da97 No.15418259
>>15414131
If he has a BP badge system that lets him affect various moves and characteristics about himself that you can swap around on the fly by holding the B button and tapping one of 8 directions for 8 different badges that'd be great.
9931a8 No.15418266
>>15418231
>the virgin mask vs the chad tingle
Majora's Mask is my favorite Legend of Zelda, but I'd still rather not have Skull Kid. He wouldn't be proper representation for the game, he's not met frequently and doesn't have a lot of influence or character through out the game, he's just there. He's only the catalyst, nothing more. I can't understand why people want him so badly.
>young link alt costume with his gear from that game
Better yet, that, and his own moveset using his transformations for specials, smash attacks, etc.
535e6b No.15418269
>>15417429
Should've included Shokio's reaction and tweets of Ridley getting announced.
1a8781 No.15418273
>>15418266
>I can't understand why people want him so badly.
Honestly, I just think it's cause he looks cool. He has zero real character, but Skull Kid makes up for it by having a really cool looking character design. Hence, he sticks in people's minds and they think of him when they think of Majora's Mask.
9931a8 No.15418291
>>15418273
>but Skull Kid makes up for it by having a really cool looking character design.
dd838e No.15418302
>>15414109
>Geno
>Bandana Dee
>Lloyd Irving
>Shadow
>Dixie
>rythmn heaven rep
>people in the thread asking for that faggot tingle
9931a8 No.15418324
>take an npc from previous game
>stick a mask on him
>has the moon fall
>SUCH A GOOD VILLAIN, SO COOL, MAKE HIM A PLAYABLE CHARACTER!!!1!
>>15418302
>implying tingle wouldn't be a good character
And reminder Dixie is the main character of her own game and is playable in 2/3 of the original DKC games.
1a8781 No.15418335
>>15418291
While he has the mask on, which is the majority of the game, he looks cool.
dd838e No.15418350
>>15418324
Sticking a Mask on skull kid is better then sticking a wig on diddy.
572874 No.15418359
Beyond the supposed leaks, why does anyone expect a single Rhythm Heaven rep on their own to make the cut anyway? I like those games as much as the next guy, but I'd hardly say any one character on their own had enough to build off to siphon a full moveset out of.
It always made more sense to my mind to have it repped in a similar sort of way to how Duck Hunt works, whereby it's more an amalgamation of different games on a move-by-move basis. Have Karate Joe as the base character and have him summon different characters for singular attacks or some shit.
15f018 No.15418367
>>15418291
hes also got this mask. at least, in promotional art. i dont know if he ever actually wears it.
fe36ff No.15418387
>>15418266
>>15418231
Besides, Tingle has his own spin off series and plenty of minigames. Would be a good rep.
df7c50 No.15418391
>>15418367
You give it to him has part of the optional Mask Trading sub-quest in OoT
15f018 No.15418435
>>15418391
oh, thank you. im not sure i ever did those quests. i wanted to get as far away from the happy mask salesman as possible. then majoras mask comes around and guess who?
d22752 No.15418454
Whats the likelyhood Isaac gets removed or heavily altered because of the Earthquake? Japan has a bad track record of removing, changing, and censoring big shit because of these things
15f018 No.15418487
>>15418454
id say the odds of him being altered are less likely than for them to leave him be. are you thinking of that pokemon episode with the giant tentacruel? well that wasnt the only episode they like to pretend never existed.
and theyre always being pelted with tsunamis and quakes, wed never see earthquakes or gnarly waves if they were always removing them because they scare people.
294cbd No.15418529
>>15418302
>implying Tingle isn't one of the most goddamn solid choices ever alongside Dixie being a fine choice for an echo
If you want another underdog on that list you could always stick with the Kuniofags. We're small here but big in Japan.
>>15418454
I doubt he'll be removed assuming he's in, but worst case scenario is that his trailer gets swapped with a different character's and Isacc is revealed when the whole thing blows over.
df7c50 No.15418621
>>15418573
I personally think B+K are going to be in the game, but Jesus Christ 15 fucking minutes of grasping at straws.
7fd10b No.15418658
>>15414164
You may not like to hear this, bit its a solid if a bit bland platformer. Say what you will about the sequel.
>>15418231
Agreed
>>15418454
I'd be satisfied with Garet or Felix.
154058 No.15419069
>>15418350
Dixie looks similar, sure, but she has her own design quirks and is actually important / seen throughout the whole game. I think she has potential for a unique moveset too involving the animal buddies or Kiddy Kong for some attacks.
595d04 No.15419113
>>15418052
is your tiny ape brain capable of lasting two seconds without pounding out some stupid buzzword? you obviously haven't played the game so maybe you shouldn't get so mad about it.
507803 No.15419127
>>15414234
>t. knows jack shit
By that logic Belmont must be OP due to his huge flailwhip.
507803 No.15419129
60baa0 No.15419130
15f018 No.15419134
>>15419069
more like dixie looks simian. the question i have is will diddy (and dixie if she makes it in) have their victory animations from dkc2, where diddy would beatbox and dixie would jam on a guitar? i was disappointed that hes never had that in smash bros so far.
507803 No.15419158
>>15417907
You forgot DK 64 man.
883d46 No.15419169
>>15418621
if BK gets into smash is that good news though? would nintendo be able to reclaim the BK IP and re-release the game on the switch?
honestly im only thinking certain characters get in from the old ballot.
6e9548 No.15419172
>>15419169
Only if Microsoft were to get out of the hardware business, and or be willing to sell Rare and it's IP's.
507803 No.15419175
>>15419130
Now that I think of it spearlad wouldn't be able to slice properly, making his attacks mostly thrusts. Not as OP as Marth. Also Marth isn't even that OP, I beat Marthfags in Melee and Project M all the time with Captain Falcon.
883d46 No.15419192
>>15419172
I thought they were willing to let other companies take the BK IP though? or am I mistaken? was there not an article about that a while ago here on /v/?
df7c50 No.15419215
>>15419192
Phil Spencer (Head of the Xbox brand and current Vice-President of Microsoft's gaming division) has said multiple times it would be cool to have Banjo in Smash.
883d46 No.15419245
>>15419215
i'd be estatic, i'd be even more excited if nintendo got their hands on the IP again. lets be honest microsoft isnt doing anything with it and rare has all but shelved it.
minus the time they almost made a shitty kinect game for it
07687c No.15419269
>>15414109
>Isaac
I've only heard of Golden Sun through smash discussions and how its localization was butchered. All it's got going for it over other JRPGs is that it's first party unlike say, Chrono Trigger
>skull kid
I wouldn't mind but he's not the first Zelda character in line
>Geno
He was in one game that grows more irrelevant by the day but you could probably argue it spawned all the other RPG spinoffs like Paper Mario and M&L
>paper mario
Another representative for Mario RPGs, and I guess he would be more interesting gameplay wise than Geno depending on how they handle it
>Bandana Dee
Prime assist trophy candidate, but if there really needed to be another Kirby character there's no one more important, especially considering other major Kirby characters are one-offs that are only in their particular game while hat goomba is featured in multiple
>Banjo Kazooie
I like Banjo, I'd enjoy playing and seeing him in Smash, but he's third party. K Rool being in brings his chance up from negative to zero.
>Lloyd Irving
His third party game's getting older by the day and it's not even the most beloved Tales Of game. I don't know what anyone sees in this guy.
>Shadow (echo, Vergeben)
I mean, we did see that third party echoes can be a thing with Richter and Simon, so it's not impossible. It's completely impossible but I think Eggman would be better top pad out the villain roster.
>Isabelle (Echo, Vergeben)
Whatever. I guess she is the most popular named character, and there is a lack of female characters.
2nd tier, but still likely:
>Dixie
DK's imporant enough of a series to warrant another character, whether she would be a diddy echo or a seperate character, but the first is more likely.
>Rex and Pyra
We got fucking Kamui last game and Roy in melee so it wouldn't be out of the question to get a character to promote a recent game, but I just don't know whether he would be a top pick.
>ARMs rep
Roster was decided too early to put him in the base game. Could easily be a DLC
>rythmn heaven rep
Pretty niche series. Low chance but whatever character it is would probably look great in-game depending on how creative they get.
8f16ad No.15419271
Wasn't Geno a costume in Kerfuffle? So that means Geno in Smash ultimate is a real possibility, no? Honestly, I'd prefer that over any other suggestion except possibly Reimu. Geno is a memorable character. He has even more potential, I wager, than Banjo & Kazooie. If we must have a rare rep let it be Conker
945367 No.15419272
>>15418621
No Smash Bros game has had a Western character yet, so I'd lower your expectations. The most non-Japanese representation we've gotten is Tetris music and a Pong assist. Shovel Knight doesn't count because that's basically a Nintendo game made by Westerners.
60baa0 No.15419307
>>15419269
>I've only heard of Golden Sun through smash discussions and how its localization was butchered. All it's got going for it over other JRPGs is that it's first party unlike say, Chrono Trigger
I've no attachment to Golden Sun but I'm on board with Isaac because of his moveset potential. He'd be more like Robin than just another sword user, which means I could stop playing Robin and play as an actual good character from a good game instead.
5f4245 No.15419313
Can I get a Rythm Heaven stage instead?
15f018 No.15419316
>>15419245
i thought that was conker, or were they toying with bear and bird too?
>>15419272
well if thats the case then wild gunmen on duckhunts down b count as western characters because quickdraw duels are for cowboys only.
60baa0 No.15419326
>>15419313
I'm pretty disatisfied with the stages. I'd rather they make a bunch of new ones than bring back all these old ones. Stages are great representations for series that don't get fighters. More variety and flair too.
597ec1 No.15419329
>>15419245
If the actual creators of banjo cant make a decent banjoesque game now what makes you think nintendo could?
df7c50 No.15419332
>>15419272
>No Smash Bros game has had a Western character yet
Diddy Kong and K.Rool.
Technically Donkey Kong too, as hes not the same character as the original Donkey Kong
As for assists, Krystal and Klaptrap, are also western-made.
>Shovel Knight doesn't count because that's basically a Nintendo game made by Westerners.
Now you just making up excuses mate.
945367 No.15419343
>>15419332
Huh, you learn something new everyday. I guess I should've said non-Japanese franchises.
5f4245 No.15419368
>>15419332
Don't forget Dark Samus made by Retro.
>>15419326
There are lots of games that make better stages than fighters. Rythm Heaven and Panel de Pon come to mind.
883d46 No.15419372
>>15419329
there is always hope
>>15419316
pretty sure it was for both, considering microsoft also dropped their young conker abortion
69316b No.15419518
>>15419127
why do you want a spear user when Marth is already available with its tipper? just because it's a different weapon? you're retarded
0b8de4 No.15419761
”Hat Goomba” is the new “too big”
dd838e No.15419776
>>15419761
Hat Goomba isn't an argument for why he won't be in Smash, its pointing out how he is shit.
5838c6 No.15419794
>>15418359
Yeah, it would work better as a stage like the wario ware one.
d6da97 No.15419800
>>15419368
>There are lots of games that make better stages than fighters. Rythm Heaven and Panel de Pon come to mind.
Sin and Punishment especially comes to mind. I also want an Earth Mimicry assist trophy.
b1f3e5 No.15419890
>>15419518
Spears aren't swung around like a sword you dumb nigger, you either thrust or throw them. It wouldn't have a tipper, but only a hurt box on the tip.
c7ebb4 No.15419929
I want a Fire Emblem Three Houses Rep for Smash. Not trolling, I just really like the design.
6966a2 No.15419970
I've been seeing Isaac getting a ridiculous and unusual amount of support. Is it just bandwagoning? Before K Rool's reveal he was a super obscure fighter almost nobody cared about and now he's near the top of almost every fan poll. I doubt that many people have played Golden Sun. Do they think it's BoI Isaac in the poll or something?
9037b7 No.15420001
>tfw too optimistic for a character due to mashpotato samurai's hints and am now actually worried that it's fucking Elma
8c34e7 No.15420005
Post those templates boys.
Also I forgot to add MARX on mine
who is much cooler than Bandana Dee
60baa0 No.15420013
>>15420001
i already gave up.
8c34e7 No.15420017
>>15414114
>Sans actually that high
hahah kill me.
Its really great to see Ppaer Mario, Nick and Doomguy up there though, makes me feel they got a genuine chance.
And who exactly is that Japanese #7?
I cant put a name to that face but ive seen it quite a lot.
9037b7 No.15420037
d6da97 No.15420045
>>15420017
>And who exactly is that Japanese #7?
It's a kirby character, anon.
60baa0 No.15420048
>>15420017
>And who exactly is that Japanese #7?
7 is Magalor, the antagonist of the Kirby Wii game Return to Dreamland.
17169e No.15420050
>>15420005
>DK helping simon get into main square
Thats really comfy anon.
8c34e7 No.15420068
>>15420048
>>15420045
Oh dang, I love Kirby to death but thats the only one I havent played
That being said, its actually kinda disappointing to hear that, means that my boy Marx in the long term doesnt have a chance.
>>15420050
Thank you! I wanted Simon and Mega Man since I was a kid, now that they are both actually in im quite content.
c5d668 No.15420085
So how much bigger will rest's hurtbox be this time? It's gotten bigger every installment.
17169e No.15420106
>>15420068
If it doesnt bother you, could you draw another picture of simon and richter being welcomed to smash?
8c34e7 No.15420125
>>15414114
If the Jap one is from Dengeki Mag, wheres the 2nd one from?
Where was it hosted?
dd838e No.15420143
When is she being announced?
535e6b No.15420150
>>15420106
I like to imagine Simon as a extreme christian. He sees degenerates like Zero Suit Samus and he can't help but to douse them in holy water to teach those sinners a lesson.
d6da97 No.15420152
>>15420150
What's degenerate about her, anon? Isn't she fully clothed?
880f56 No.15420162
>>15420152
She's not wearing a hijab.
17169e No.15420170
>>15420150
Hes probably the most devout belmont after leon.
8b4e21 No.15420171
I wish jigglypuff was retardedly buffed
d6da97 No.15420253
>>15420162
What do Christian hijabs look like?
>>15420170
I don't know, what about Trevor?
17169e No.15420276
>>15420253
Trevor begins the game excomunicated and married a witch.
535e6b No.15420294
>>15420152
yes, and she is doing a man's work
5b5c98 No.15420307
>>15419929
That game has the blandest FE design I've seen in years. Even worse design than Awakening or Fates. If a new FE character does get in God forbid that ever happens then it should either be Alm or Celica from echoes because the Alm can also use bows and Celica can also use magic.
>>15420171
Anyone is retardedly buffed as long as you git gud with them
>>15420253
>>15420276
Not to mention the blasphemous shit he does in the anime which doesnt matter because its non canon.
80c179 No.15420460
1f7b31 No.15420538
>>15419970
Issac has had pretty steady top 10 support since the Brawl era back when he was actually still semi-relevant and people thought his franchise was alive and would produce more good games. I think if you look at the roster, every other major NEVER EVER has a problem that will push away some people.Geno and Banjo are third party, and Geno was in literally one game on the SNES as a supporting character, he has no legacy nor was he even that important in the past aside from being the most memorable supporting character in his game. Skull Kid and Bandanna Dee both have an iconicity/relevancy problem, they're both bog standard enemies with basically zero character that are liked either because people liked Majora's Mask or like Kirby and want more Kirby reps but Kirby is already drawn kind of thin on recurring and memorable characters with Deedeedee and Metaknight being added in Brawl.
Issac is first party, a main character in a best selling game that had a successful sequel, someone who most kids who had a GBA will remember because his game popped the non-pokemon JRPG cherries of many people who were born in the early-mid 90s.
I can't say I really support Issac anymore despite being a major supporter of his in the Brawl days, but his inclusion makes more sense to me than the other never evers aside from Ridley and K. Rool who are already in. I don't think that Issac is the first choice of most people but a lot of people like to gravitate towards already popular characters. With the aforementioned two already being in a lot of rosterfags were left without a main character to support so they got absorbed by the next biggest factions.
Dante and KOS-MOS are two rapidly growing fanbases I've seen kicking off despite never seeing them being active whatsoever in previous Japan times. I think that the extent of third party representation in 4 really opened a lot of people up to the possibility of more third party representation and a lot of IPs are to the point that rather than jealously guarding their IP are very eager to get into smash for the smash sales bump that has been empirically proven to exist since the Melee era.
5b5c98 No.15420552
>>15420460
Nah dude. If not now more than ever Issac is not going to be in smash, this royally fucked him back to his grave.
Nips delayed and I think canceled entire games because of those shitty earthquakes.
They cancelled a game that was specifically about surviving after natural disasters such as earthquakes because of an earthquake.
d6da97 No.15420559
>>15420552
>They cancelled a game that was specifically about surviving after natural disasters such as earthquakes because of an earthquake.
Which game was that?
69316b No.15420565
>>15419890
so you want a shitty version of marth without swing hitbox? why would you want shitty frame data?
60baa0 No.15420591
>>15420552
>They cancelled a game that was specifically about surviving after natural disasters such as earthquakes because of an earthquake.
Coincidentally, that game's development has been continued, and is (or was) scheduled for release in Japan next month.
4b43a8 No.15420602
>>15417465
I hope the first thing that's modded in Smash Ultimate is best ZSS from 3DS/Wii U
5b5c98 No.15420611
>>15420559
disaster report 4
ecdb43 No.15420613
>>15420538
I think KOS-MOS has a slight chance due to being in XB2, which may or may not of increased her relevance. As for Dante, I think most want a Dante vs Bayo battle to happen.
d6da97 No.15420615
>>15420611
But anon, its development was only halted, not cancelled.
5f4245 No.15420616
>>15420613
KOS-MOS would be a fun assist.
60baa0 No.15420617
>>15420615
It was cancelled, all the way back in 2011. Then it got bought by another company and continued years later.
d6da97 No.15420618
>>15420613
>I think KOS-MOS has a slight chance due to being in XB2, which may or may not of increased her relevance
Don't forget the X Zone appearances.
cf0186 No.15420619
>>15420565
Bandana-Dee is different. He is going to be a light-weight zoner with some projectile play too. Also copter-spear and a small hitbox are cool things.
5f4245 No.15420637
>>15420619
Crazy idea. What if Bandana Dee used both Parsol and Spear for Smash? Parsol helper is Parsol Waddle Dee.
180a24 No.15420651
>>15420005
Marx would be a pretty interesting addition.
d4b842 No.15420680
>>15420276
He starts the game praying in front of a giant cross though.
>>15420637
Pretty likely that'd be the case if he was popular enough to be included. Bandana alone would be bland and Sakurai is the kind of person who'd cram as much in there as humanly possible.
5b5c98 No.15420709
>>15420617
And then today more earthquakes happened along with a fucking typhoon.
Lets be honest, they simply didn't want to work on the game anymore, they just used the earthquake as an excuse to stop working on it and can it entirely.
e558b3 No.15420801
>>15418387
>Tingle has his own spin off series and plenty of minigames.
If only those games would get proper worldwide releases.
Interesting fact, Tingle's Balloon Fight is the only version of BF that has 4 player support.
>>15420538
Geno also appears for a surprise cameo in minigame for Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (the games credits acknowledge him being owned by Square Enix), he does not appear in the 3DS remake.
d6da97 No.15420831
>>15420801
>Geno also appears for a surprise cameo in minigame for Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (the games credits acknowledge him being owned by Square Enix), he does not appear in the 3DS remake.
Shit, I remember that.
180a24 No.15420843
>>15420709
>And then today more earthquakes happened along with a fucking typhoon.
Is Japan cursed by God?
d260f0 No.15420847
>>15420843
Every big earthquake is always followed by a series of smaller ones.
t. Chilean
8c34e7 No.15420854
>>15420106
I needed an excuse to practice drawing anyways
I tried a few things but nothing stuck, I still got some basic framework done but as I kept going my abilities were quickly dropping off.
I need to go take a break ill see if I can finish it tommorow
e558b3 No.15420920
>>15420106
>2nd pic
It's crazy that the Ditto "that can't change it's face" transformation quirk is still acknowledged after first appearing in the anime nearly 20 years ago and it's technically not even present in Ultimate.
8c34e7 No.15420958
>>15420920
I dont think thats been present in any of the games, just the anime
which is a shame
at least ultimate has him stay pink, thats something the games stopped doing after gen II
They do have a fuck ton of ditto merch of him like that though
07d878 No.15420987
>>15420150
You aren't funny. Just a faggot.
07d878 No.15421000
Even if it'd directly damage "anti-sjw" progress, Japan, humanity and even anime tiddies in general, I want to find a way to directly painfully exterminate every last fucking subhuman that wants that shitty meme skeleton. Fuck the consequences. All that matters is results.
07d878 No.15421038
>>15421007
That retardation like DBZfags reflects on what cancerous nigger human shit wants it.
446454 No.15421145
>>15421094
There's nothing wrong with it.
You want something to get mad about? How about all the erotic female novels that completely objectify men.
355833 No.15421182
I'm pretty sure this will never, EVER happen, but I will fucking suck Mashpotato Samurai's dick if they add an Spectrobes character.
197f54 No.15421210
>>15420001
>That feel when it seems more unlikely every day
I'll never stop believing.
f0a81c No.15421232
>>15421182
unfortunately I'm pretty sure disney interactive had a hand in that series' creation, and I doubt nintendo wants to walk those particular tightropes
plus if they did add anything disney related in smash it would definitely be a kingdom hearts rep
e65d7e No.15421277
>>15421145
Most of the time the men in those books aren't especially objectified, they just slap shirtless men on the cover of them. Women like their men characters to have bullshit characteristics and conflicts cause women like that stuff.
-t. an anon whose wife is a librarian and reads a book (many of them this type of thing) every day or two
I was never aware of how there seems to be a SHIRTLESS SCOTSMAN EROTICA book released every fucking week
f02083 No.15421511
>>15421182
Its a disney ip, maybe if you really wish hard theyll be in kh3
c5d668 No.15422246
>>15421277
>he wife reads a new erotic novel every day or two
That's a lot of erotic novels. Are you satisfying her?
9931a8 No.15422389
>>15421145
What is it with women and "erotic romance" novels? 50 Shades of Grey, Twilight, every book with Fabio on the cover, etc. I see them everywhere with about every type of women reading some form of them. I want to say women envelop themselves in this type of shit more than men do in anything else. Chick flicks, Hallmark Channel, love songs, women incorporate it into every aspect of their lives and I'll never fully understand it.
t. an anon who works at a thrift store and sees hundreds of these books and has to deal with old ladies looking for particular books
15f018 No.15422455
>>15422389
i guess hentai isnt for everyone
eef353 No.15422481
01e7ac No.15422484
The line for Smush was huge holy shit. Also some kid chanted for "Fortnite default for Smash". This is why I wish I could drink.
319a82 No.15422487
>>15422389
Woman's romantic fantasy can be summed up in two forms: prince charming and dashing rogue. That is rich and handsome with high status beta orbiter who will desire the woman, but hold back his lust. Women love getting nonthreatening attention. The other is the handsome barbarian who will sweep her off her feet, possibly by force. She can then 'tame' this force of nature.
For comparison, the male one is a Betty and Veronica duo. Pretty girl next door and princess. But you will find the Vampire and Werewolf duo of the Twilight fits the female one to a T. 50 shades is just a shameless mashing together of both.
01e7ac No.15422506
e378eb No.15422509
>>15422455
It's more akin to LNs, but with actual sex, and somehow worse writing
e65d7e No.15422514
>>15422246
Pretty sure it's just she's an avid reader/pervert? Even on our honeymoon during whatever downtime we weren't doing stuff in she'd be reading and then enthusiastically telling me about them.
I don't have cover of erotic novel abs so maybe I gotta work on that.
>>15422389
At least she hates shit like 50 shades of grey and Twilight due to it being written like ass apparently
9931a8 No.15422531
>>15422487
But why is all this prominent within most women's lives it seems? Why are women perpetually obsessed with romance and other trite bullshit? And don't give me the short answer "because they're women, it's in their genetics, they have to be." At times it looks like women are incapable of having actual hobbies or interests.
>>15422455
I hate romance, I'm a voluntary celibate.
>>15422514
>due to being written like ass
>and the 10,000+ romance novels that get pumped out every year aren't
I've been working my job long enough that I'm aware and have some authors memorized because people will ask for them, occasionally I might open the book midway just to see what kind of shit these people are into and it's almost always poorly written garbage that never goes anywhere or accounts for anything.
15f018 No.15422535
>>15422499
i hate that guy so damn much, i actually quit spyro 2 when i realized he was going to be a recurring element.
01e7ac No.15422557
>>15422535
Why does that creature look so much like Drillboy
fe36ff No.15422561
>>15422535
he's developed in to give you a reason to collect gems other than OCD. IIRC in Spyro 2 he gives them all back upon finishing the main story.
15f018 No.15422567
>>15422557
well he is a drill faced penguin monster. dungeons of dredmore.
01e7ac No.15422836
>>15420005
Yeah, I'd much rather have Marx than Goomba with a spear.
65b1a6 No.15422853
>>15422567
>tfw got to Dredmor and died
Pretty much gave up after that
0b8de4 No.15422900
>>15414114
>Magolor
Really? I'm all for Bandana Dee or Marx or even fucking Galacta Knight, but Magolor seems like a bit of an out there choice for a new Kirby rep. Not a bad one by any means, but the demand for him over in Nipland is surprising.
5f4245 No.15422946
>>15422531
>inb4 that Jewish troll LARPing as a NatSoc from brings up the talking dog argument.
I'd take a woman with feminine hobbies like cooking and cosplay so long as she knows the science and numbers behind the craft. So far every literature club has been revolved around these smut fictions with the same kinds of heroes and same styles of romance. Mom tried to get me into some of her Sci-Fi books, but the moment I realized they were about the smut and not anything else I dropped them. Mom reads shitty anime fanfiction now. It has the same, if not better quality, than these modern smut fictions.
5f4245 No.15422958
I digress.
What would Magalor's playstyle and moveset be like?
d260f0 No.15423257
>>15422946
>he doesn't know what LARP means
9931a8 No.15423286
>>15422946
Cosplaying isn't and shouldn't be a woman's hobby. It's for pathetic unhinged people with no sense of themselves. The only time it would be acceptable is for time period reenactment.
0b8de4 No.15423288
>>15423286
>It's for pathetic unhinged people with no sense of themselves.
So what you're saying is it's a woman's hobby
5f4245 No.15423335
>>15423257
>He doesn't know that there will never be a separation of your anonymous shitposting from your IRL self anymore thanks to big sister.
>>15423286
Cosplaying IS suppose to be reinactment even though it modeling in a costume. Whether there is spoken words or not bad coslays have bad acting as much as bad costumes. Also there's an art behind the creation of costumes themselves from materials to techniques creating them. If a cosplayer makes her own costumes and goes into detail then I'm interested because she's an enthusiast. Otherwise if she says "I just copied the schematics online," or "I'm perfect wearing this," or "unless you pay me to talk to you-" then they're not enthusiasts.
I've considered writing fiction about a yo-kai exchange student who joins a gaijin monster girl cosplay club only to find out they know jack shit about what they're doing with making costumes.
60baa0 No.15423378
>>15422900
Magalor is an odd case in that he's actually become a semi-recurring character. Despite getting his soul blown up like other Kirby bosses, he came back fine and dandy and "reformed." I think he ran minigames in Triple Deluxe or Planet Robobot. Still, I don't understand why he has as much popularity, maybe it's because he's one of the very few characters in Kirby to get actual dialogue.
884511 No.15423384
>>15423378
I could see Magalor as a Boss battle. You could poach just about any Kirby boss and throw him into what we assume that "Spirits" mode will be
9931a8 No.15423393
>>15423335
Cosplaying fiction at conventions or whatnot is cringeworthy at best. Dressing up for those sorts of deals is fine if it fits the interactions and setting of the event. People dressing up in medieval clothes is fine for a renaissance festival.
d6da97 No.15423700
>>15423335
>I've considered writing fiction about a yo-kai exchange student who joins a gaijin monster girl cosplay club only to find out they know jack shit about what they're doing with making costumes.
Could be ok, but what would the yokai student cosplay is?
8c34e7 No.15423984
>>15422484
>E10+
huh I thought for sure Sakurai was going to go for a T rating again this time
well guess Doomguy and Dante are out
>>15422836
Honestly I really like Kirby and feel any new character would be fun.
I could see how a spear character could have some real neat and fun moves
but I just dont think its anywhere near the absolute mad and apeshit moveset Marx could pull off.
>>15422900
Galacta Knight seems pretty unlikely due to it being a meta knight skin.
8b4e21 No.15424125
>>15423984
>E10 instantly means violent characters are out
Bayonetta is still in though, and I daresay she's more troublesome than they are.
8c34e7 No.15424182
>>15424125
I was just poking fun is all
Im more surprised this is E10+ while Brawl was a T
This one has snake too and thats probably what made brawl go over the edge
Maybe the rating system is just getting lighter.
60baa0 No.15424213
>>15424182
The E10+ rating didn't exist when Brawl came out, if I recall.
fea6ce No.15424238
>>15418529
>Kunio
One of the most rational and reasonable demands for a Smash character I've seen since they started doing this polling shit. He's unique, he's not a shitty meme choice like Goku, there's no issue of scale or any problems with him being a clone of an existing character, and on top of that, he's actually still got new games being released on a regular basis, several of which are on the fucking 3DS.
4a204c No.15424247
>>15424213
It did though, since E10+ began early 2005 with Donkey Kong Jungle Beat being one of the first to recieve it. Not sure what all in THAT game was not Everyone enough, but whatever. The biggest thing to consider is that Japan's CERO board has grown picky about panty shots for All-Ages.
I will say that there's been one change from Smash Brawl to 4 to Ultimate's ratings. we've gone from no suggestive themes to mild suggestive themes to regular suggested themes.
9931a8 No.15424261
>>15424247
You beat me to it.
I think it was the boss fights and rush-down finishers that brought it to E10+
d6da97 No.15424262
>>15424247
Something seems off about Samus's butt.
9931a8 No.15424292
>>15424238
Obscure limited release largely Japan-only characters will be the next "too big" meme.
60baa0 No.15424296
>>15424292
>Obscure limited release largely Japan-only characters will be the next "too big" meme.
But it's a Japanese game so being popular in Japan is not an issue, never was.
8b4e21 No.15424302
>>15424292
I just realized Goemon looks like Japanese Steven Universe, or vice versa.
fea6ce No.15424320
>>15424292
The last few Kunio-kun games have been released in the west. Goemon is totally missing in action, on top of having a dozen other games that never got translated. I'd still love to have him in there, though.
9931a8 No.15424342
>>15424296
Except for the time Marth almost wasn't included because Sakurai was worried about the "western audience" and is probably one of the reasons Ayumi Tachibana hasn't been playable, an assist trophy, or even a regular trophy since Melee. Could be the reason Ray and Saki were cut as assists too.
And is probably the reason Marvelous doesn't have a stage or trophy when it oh so fucking deserves it. Fun Fact: Marvelous is the reason Aonuma got the director's job for the Zelda series.
>>15424302
I don't see it.
>>15424320
Have they? I never hear about River City Ransom or Kunio-kun anymore over here. Are they any good?
294cbd No.15424346
>>15424292
Kunio actually got a spot in one of Japan's largest gaming magazines for most wanted granted it was below top 5 and was actually the last I think but nowhere on the most expected area. So if Mashpotato wanted to do some Japan pandering while being unexpected as fuck he could release BOTH Kunio and Goemon since they look similar in size and would likely make Nippon shit itself into another earthquake.
Or they could be too short for Smash :^)
60baa0 No.15424374
>>15424342
>Have they? I never hear about River City Ransom or Kunio-kun anymore over here. Are they any good?
I hear the localizations suck ass but the latest ones were River City: Tokyo Rumble and River City: Rival Showdown, which I think is a remake of the first game. Both are on the 3DS.
294cbd No.15424396
>>15424342
On 3DS in the west there's River City: Tokyo Rumble and River City: Knights of Justice on 3DS. Both of these are kinda meh but are definitely worth a pirate. The greatest 3DS title is Rival Showdown which is still worth a pirate because someone fucked the English translation, but if you have the cash I'd buy a Japanese copy if possible if you wish to support them..
On Steam there's River City Super Sports Challenge: All Stars Special and Battle Royale Special, but once again these are worth pirating due to being just alright overall.
Overall the best one out of all of these is Rival Showdown, at least in my opinion.
fea6ce No.15424397
>>15424342
River City Tokyo Rumble, Rival Showdown, and Knights of Justice are the 3 and they're all pretty good. They have a slightly different system for building up and customizing your character, but it's better than hording money and gorging on food until your stats are randomly buffed enough.
The games tend to rely a little too much on grinding, in my opinion, and constantly fighting can get a little tedious when the game actively rewards you for hyperfocusing into one maneuver (like pumping up your punch stat in every way and just spamming punches to win every fight). This is partly a problem because 1) bosses and special enemies are damage sponges, and 2) nearly every attach results in enemies getting knocked down and laying on the ground for a moment, slowing the pace of the fight artificially.
They're alright/10
940119 No.15424419
i may or may not be late but seeing people getting angry over nintendo delaying the direct over an earthquake gets me really fucking pissed
80c96c No.15424435
>>15421145
>There's nothing wrong with it.
ノーパンツ・ノー楽しい
5f4245 No.15424440
>>15423700
I'll save the details for another thread on another board.
>>15423984
Make a parasol-spear for Bandana Dee. Combine spear and parasol abilities from Kirby to make a versatile zoner. Downside is mid-close distance will be a weakness but Bandana Dee will always have something to keep him one step back.
>>15424346
Is Kunio first party?
>>15424419
Delayed direct means delayed paid online.
294cbd No.15424455
>>15424397
>nearly every attack results in enemies getting knocked down
Most games, at least in my experience, have ways of following up on that. In the beginning you can just pick them up and throw them/beat up other people with them, but as you get more skills you can use shit like Fatal Steps or Sonic Swing if you can align yourself just right. Not sure if there's a punching version for that, it's been a while. I do agree though, the bosses and special enemies aren't too unique when their gimmicks require them to not constantly get knocked down.
>>15424440
Kunio's third party, but the sheer number of games on Famicom and other Nintendo systems easily circumvent that, I'd like to believe. In all honesty I think he'd fit right in as a Nintendo character if ArcSys didn't pick him up.
fea6ce No.15424465
>>15424455
The stuff with throws, or even just abusing Acro Circus let you keep the damage flow coming when an enemy is down, but that's also a great way to burn through your AP when fighting a single enemy.. It's not really all that bad, but it's definitely a flaw in the system I feel like they could have fixed across the games.
e54aaf No.15424475
>>15420152
Yes, in a skin-tide suit, not very modest. At least not from the perspective of a medieval man
8c34e7 No.15424500
This smash definetly seems to have a heavy western influence I think.
With the likes of K. Rool, Ridley, Dark Samus
Somewhat Simon Belmont.
I heard apparently Japan has started calling ridley 'Captain America' which is a good gag.
>>15424419
Im upset but I atleast understand why they did it.
You cant broadcast a ditect to a nation that doesnt have power
They likely want to make sure everyone gets their shit sorted out before paying attention to the direct.
>>15424440
As I said, he would play super fun.
Just not as insanely off-the-wall weird as my boy Marx
294cbd No.15424532
>>15424465
Yeah the SP system is pretty bullshit in that regard, since there's no good way to recover during a fight if you aren't dealing enough damage. Can't even use SP recovery items, which is perhaps the biggest flaw..
f40256 No.15425405
>>15417807
You know now that I think about it, it all makes sense.
Nintendo normally doesn't delay stuff due to natural disasters unless that thing was themed around natural disasters. Several episodes from the first season of the Pokemon anime were delayed due to 9/11. There was an episode from the Gen III anime called Wishcash and Ash that was also delayed due to an earthquake in Japan. That means there must be an earthquake that happens in the Direct, and what character is known for making earthquakes?
ISAAC
It all makes sense now!
60baa0 No.15425413
>>15425405
>and what character is known for making earthquakes?
Your momma whenever she gets out of bed.
5b5c98 No.15425448
>>15421182
I like your taste in vidya anon! But a Digimon is more likely to make it in smash than a spectrobes character, even as a basic trophy.
>>15421511
That actually sounds pretty sick.
Now I actually want that.
But I know it will never happen
I fucking hate Disney
8c34e7 No.15425496
>>15425405
I actually had a very similar theory
It does sound nice but my main bet was still that with most of japan out of power ninty didn't want to broadcast on a nation that cant watch
e558b3 No.15425564
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>>15420958
It's in Pokemon Snap (first and only game appearance?), there's Ditto disguised as Bulbasaur with that face and also some Ditto TCG cards.
>>15425405
It's possible they could air a different newcomer trailer entirely because of this disaster situation and try to space as much time between current earthquake/after shocks and a potential Isaac reveal.
f0a81c No.15425589
>decent turned based nintendo game with interesting position based combat
>first game alittle rough around the edges, but fun, with the second improving on every single aspect and making the gameplay deeper
>completely ruined in the third installment for a piece of complete fucking trash that ruins the artstyle and gameplay
smash 4 had ONE fossil fighters reference, which was a throwaway trophy in the 3DS game, and even that was from the third game
ANY vivosaur could fit in as well as a pokemon, but I seriously doubt that'll ever happen
I swear nintendo actively assassinated the series
for one the third game was a complete departure from the original concept in almost every way, but whats more strange is that supposedly its the best selling out of the whole franchise, but gained no attention for it
its like they didn't want anything competing with pokemon's monopoly on monster collecting or something so they tried to just shut it down
535e6b No.15425602
>>15424302
what is going on in that pic
d4b842 No.15425615
If Isaac gets in what are the chances that Nintendo will revive Golden Sun? Would you prefer a new game in 3d or 2d sprites with post-processing a la Ocotpath traveler?
>>15422853
Pick vitality armor trait and some healing and you won't die ever.
19f484 No.15425623
Have we confirmed if Ditto will give you FOUR Ice Climbers at once?
8c34e7 No.15425637
>>15425615
Honestly, the chance of reviving golden sun is the main reaosn im pushing for Issac.
He would be cool and fun, dont get me wrong, but the revival power of smash is underused.
thats also one of the reasons I wante Wonder Red is so his series might not die
as for the sprites:
Go 3D I say
Hit me with some beautiful scenery, go all out with the renders
We need more simple turn-based RPGs that still decide to go all out on the graphics
I love 2D sprites as much of the next guy, but this is something I think we need more of.
besides, the original golden sun had pretty decent sprites didnt it? memories a big foggy but didnt they DKC it and try to use 3D models too?
>>15425630
>Belmont flipping the bird
>bomberman about to commit Sudoku in the corner boxing himself in with a bomb
Absolutely gorgeous anon
better than anything I could muster
but why is knuckles holding a cross
and whos that in the bottom left corner of the wanted section?
looks like meowth in a nightcap got lost
6e9548 No.15425648
>>15425637
If I had to guess Anon, "knuckles" is Pyra because tits.
and Meowth in a nightcap might be Geno because his hat looks like that.
68bf04 No.15425678
>>15425630
Oh yeah, Ryu Hayabusa would be great too. Too bad he's in the "never ever" category.
294cbd No.15425767
>>15425630
Who's that in the center of least wanted? Ashley? Viridi?
I would say the obvious >being actively against Kunio shlick, but he needs competition. Everyone just liking him/being neutral is impossible. That's Kunio on the bottom left, right?
d4b842 No.15425774
>>15425637
It had spites based on 3d models. The same kind you see in a lot of N64 games.
52bfe1 No.15425787
>>15414114
Fucking retards. Why do people have such shit taste?
880f56 No.15425791
>>15422389
>>15422531
Women get aroused by the situation and the description of it rather than the visual stimulus of it. Going further, the sex itself doesn't need to even be described as much as the lead up into the sex for most novels. While it's true you'll find certain trends within such as >>15422389 mentioned that's only the fetish within the method of transportation. The reason women like novels so much as they do unironically want story with their porn because that gets them off. Whether it be romantic or rape flavored it's all about self-inserting as that woman in the novel as events resolve. The events leading up to being (not) raped, the slow seduction of the captive princess by her captor, the more in depth description of what is going on the harder the girl jills off. If you're question is "why do women like soft-porn novels" the answer is the same as "why do men jack off to porn videos so much", that's just how women tick as far as sexual release. As opposed to men who on average like to view the object of their lust (women) and act upon it, the women wants to self-insert as the object and get acted upon. The romance leading up to the sex is even better than the sex because of this mindset. More details = stronger self-insertion.
52bfe1 No.15425805
>>15424302
You did NOT "just realize" this. I've seen someone post this exact retarded sentiment before.
9cae02 No.15425819
>>15425791
>Women get aroused by the situation and the description of it rather than the visual stimulus of it
Uh, is it normal for guys to be like this too?
d4b842 No.15425833
>>15425791
Only when they know they can get away with having sex and bolting. Most guys are like that too. Women are super grabby when it comes to male strippers more so than men when it comes to female strippers so I don't know if your assessment is even accurate.
>>15425819
Yeah only Chads act the way she describes them. But the kind of women who fall for chads are low quality anyway and not someone you'd be able to have a long term relationship with. It really depends on the quality of the person.
880f56 No.15425852
>>15425819
It's not average, so by definition not normal. There's still a (much smaller) market for it though.
Personally I can't enjoy porn without it either being a doujin or a caption but sadly the latter is dying on /d/ so my life just keeps getting harder and harder
>>15425833
>Only when they know they can get away with having sex and bolting. Most guys are like that too. Women are super grabby when it comes to male strippers more so than men when it comes to female strippers so I don't know if your assessment is even accurate.
You're equating real life behaviors with how women enjoy consuming porn. You shouldn't base how women act in actual relationships with their porn habits and the same with men. It's about what they enjoy, i.e. plenty of thots have rape fantasies but don't actually want to be raped (shocker), plenty of men want to have a stable monogamous relationship even if they enjoy the occasional gang bang scenario.
d4b842 No.15425874
>>15425791
>Women get aroused by the situation and the description of it rather than the visual stimulus of it.
Was responding to this. A male stripper is basically visual stimulation is he not?
880f56 No.15425894
>>15425874
>Was responding to this. A male stripper is basically visual stimulation is he not?
No, it's not the same as watching a porn video. Actually being there in person and throwing money at someone is far far different than the shit you fap to alone anon. The fact you can even touch changes the situation dynamic dramatically. Going further, there's usually a group thing going on. A man will go to strip club alone quite often but a woman will usually travel in groups or more popular example would be hiring the stripper for a bachelorette party. It becomes a group activity for fitting in socially and since it's socially normal to thirst after hot bods you'll see woman acting as the group thinks they should act even further than their average desires.
I was describing the habits of porn consumption where it is only visual or audio based, a guy watching porn gets a different response than a guy groping a strippers tits. A girl reading porn in her room alone is different than her interacting with a physical man.
15f018 No.15425985
>>15425648
i thought it was geno baking a ridley cookie
e8debc No.15426084
>>15425933
If Isaac gets in the game, should I play Golden Sun?
60baa0 No.15426091
>>15425767
>I would say the obvious >being actively against Kunio shlick, but he needs competition. Everyone just liking him/being neutral is impossible.
Keep crying for him and anons will start to hate him purely to spite you.
>>15426084
If you can find a ROM, do it. I should do the same myself, I only played Dark Dawn after years of hearing how good the series was, boy that was a disappointment. It wasn't even that awful, it was just boring.
07d878 No.15426774
>>15425787
Exactly why I became homicidal about this fucking series.
9931a8 No.15426983
>>15425791
>why do men jack off to porn videos so much
I hate porn videos tho, it's the opposite of a turn on. I used to only do still images or mind fap, but now I've given up sexual thoughts entirely.
52bfe1 No.15427045
>>15426774
Smash itself is one gigantic cancer cell. The extremely shitty tastes of the popularityfags, the constant trolling by Sakurai, the fact that Smash players never shower, the fact that everyone sees Smash as a be-all-end-all for a character's franchise… it's fucking ridiculous.
Smash was a god damn mistake. They should've aborted this baby before Melee.
294cbd No.15427308
>>15426091
Well obviously, I don't wanna become like the Monafag or some shit, we already have enough of those. I'm not dangerously close to that level or already there, am I? God I hope not, I wanted to be the cool one.
>>15427250
>Mike Jones
Considering Sakurai's been pandering to the west, I think this guy's actually got a great chance of being in. He deserves it too, but I'd hate if they just made him Ness but taller.
f19add No.15427359
>>15419272
I'm surprised that Konami actually allowed the likes of Snake and the Belmonts to get into smash; and that we just didn't have a pachinko machine as a character.
9931a8 No.15427391
>>15427250
>dixie as an echo
I know it makes sense to a lot of people, but I think she has a bit of potential to have her own moveset. Her specials could involve the animal buddies, her double jump could end with her helicopter hair like Peach's float, her throws could involve Kiddy Kong, etc. Sure, it would be easy to make her a Diddy echo, but I think she's more deserving than that.
5b5c98 No.15427566
>Implying that anyone wouldn't want to play as a Resident Evil character, a fucking digimon, the god killing Demi-Fiend, Tingle, Amaterasu (which would add another doggo character btw), or even motherfucking RAIDEN.
I also think theres at least a 70%-80% chance that the Hunter and hopefully palico from Monster Hunter is going to be in smash because of that Rathalos stage boss and Ancestral Steppe stage.
0b8de4 No.15427904
>>15427045
Isn't everything you said exactly why so many people like it, though? BECAUSE it's a giant shitfire clusterfuck?
55615d No.15427931
>>15427045
On one hand, you have the tourneyfags. The only ones that a massive amount of people pay attention to anyway are ones with money involved, so they already have all of the associated e-sports autism going for them. Plus, Melee tournaments are much more convenient and cost-effective to host locally compared to the others, with all of the name recognition that comes with "Melee" and people still milking the shit out of its mechanics getting easy attention (Brawl has become cheaper to buy if you don't already have everything, but its tournament scene is dead right now), so they'll still be around for years to come.
On the other, you have flavor-of-the-month shitters who are practically eating out of the dev's hands at this point. The character roster scene is pretty bad, but even the fucking lore of all things gets a good amount of the attention. The premise of the whole game is just supposed to be some autist playing with his Nintendo® Licensed™ Merchandise©, but certain people have been trying to romanticize it into a get-together/commemorative event headcanon Tumblrfags or put shit where nothing exists and try to make 3deep5u connections with a flowchart the size of a billboard theory autism. The latter gained traction some time after Brawl came out (Subspace Emissary), and shit hit the fan with the former in Smash 4 (Animal Crossing villager got a Smash invitation letter as if it was supposed to be an honor to be "invited").
All in all, everything all comes together to one giant clusterfuck.
06783e No.15427956
>>15427566
Viewtiful Joe my fucking nigger
6966a2 No.15428212
>>15427566
>Jack Bros. instead of just Jack Frost
Huh, that's an interesting idea for a duo character.
74f95c No.15428331
>>15428212
>Jack Bros.
>duo
67b629 No.15428534
>>15427566
>Travis Touchdown gets in Ultimate
>says "FREAKHEAD/STINKHEAD/SHUCKHEAD/KNUCKLEHEAD/(any other replacement for FUCKHEAD)" instead of "FUCKHEAD" to prevent the ESRB rating from being [M]
5e21d3 No.15428553
>>15428534
They did the same with Bayonetta
>Don't mess with a witch
Same business, they still do want children playing smash, and unless it's something completely pants on head retarded I won't care.
f40256 No.15428590
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>>15426084
You should play Golden Sun anyway. It's a really creative JRPG with a fun setting that really needs more love.
6a8e24 No.15428598
am I the only one want Turok to be in? I known there's next to nothing possibilities but still…
Is better than more FE characters or any animuh character with sword
b5c5ab No.15428746
>>15427045
>Sakurai just wanted to make a fun little party fighter
>now he has to stand on stage next to fat people who never shower while they gyrate at him because they won a match with all the things that makes the game fun turned off
I'm surprised he hasn't drank himself to death yet.
0b8de4 No.15428790
>>15428746
I'm in a perpetual state of admiring Sakurai, feeling bad for him, and hating him all at the same time
e43fa7 No.15428810
>>15418387
I have all 3 tingle spin-off games + Majora's Mask.
While I like Skull Kid, he's still just a skull kid wearing Majora's Mask. He's insignificant in the grander scheme of storytelling and served as a one-time antagonist for Majora's Mask (and he wasn't even the protagonist; he was possessed by Majora once he dawned the mask).
Tingle would make a lot more sense in a smash fighting game since he's a well-defined character who has defined movesets, his own games, and is light-hearted enough to appeal to the broader audience.
Of course, will they add him? no. They added Ripley from Metroid before they even considered adding Banjo Kazooie, Tingle, or Skull Kid.
Skull Kid or Kazooie will probably make it into the game.
8b4e21 No.15428830
>>15428746
Then you have the endless cocksuckers who want more shitty anime characters.
Just give us more iconic characters like pacman and megaman.
d6da97 No.15428837
>>15428534
I would rather they bleep him instead.
5e21d3 No.15428845
>>15428810
>Ripley
>(1) and done
>meme spacing
is this what eternal september felt like at first
e43fa7 No.15428859
>>15428845
That's just how I space shit. You don't like it well then that's just your opinion, man.
Also, you probably haven't been here as long as I have so there's that.
d6da97 No.15428860
>>15428845
Ripley from Ripley's Believe it or Not would unironically make a fun addition though.
5e21d3 No.15428866
>>15428859
sure I haven't, reddit rapefugee
you go boast about your ebin spacing and how you were totally around for 20 years longer than me, I'm sure it impresses your friends on r/4chan and gives you lots of upvotes
e43fa7 No.15428870
>>15428866
You probably don't remember ROB or superbus, it's cool I'll let you stroke your autismo e-peen a little more.
5e21d3 No.15428881
>>15428870
do you enjoy being this cancerous?
does it please you to shit up actual discussion by being a faggot?
d260f0 No.15428882
>>15428870
>dude i bet you don't remember these fags that used to post here like 2 years ago
>yeah man i'm like a super oldfag
8c34e7 No.15428894
>>15428810
>They added Ripley from Metroid before they even considered adding Banjo Kazooie, Tingle, or Skull Kid.
>Ripley
>"They added in the most requested character at the time of the reveal instead of a character they dont have the rights too and 2 characters we dont even know are in yet."
e43fa7 No.15428906
>>15428881
>do you enjoy being this cancerous?
>>15428845
If your reply was more like >>15428894 Instead of being an eternal faggot and going
>He's a september kiddo xD
I probably would've responded differently.
>>15428882
As for this cuck, hotwheels was launched October 22, 2013; 4 years ago. Calling people newfags or redditors is retarded.
5b6f9e No.15428926
>>15425548
I like BBEGs with swords, if you can't tell.
8c34e7 No.15428933
>>15428926
>>15425548
>Darth Vader
>Twice
who the fuck are you people
this shits more retarded than Goku
268c15 No.15428973
>>15427045
you should have been aborted before you made this post
e54aaf No.15429020
>>15414109
Wasn't there a leak that said Dante would be in smash? Was that just a lie?
ebea09 No.15429028
>>15428933
darth vader would be perfect for smash.
df7c50 No.15429039
>>15429020
Dante is 100% confirmed. Please look forward to it.
952447 No.15429043
>>15427045
>the fact that smash fags never shower
So is this an admission of everyone you pass by you happen to get close so you can smell them? Is this your fetish or some shit?
d260f0 No.15429048
>>15429043
He's just parroting the FGC nigger memes.
69316b No.15429067
>>15427391
Dixie would be an excellent unique fighter
I'm sick and tired of the same fags shilling their wanted newcomers
How about some advanced wars?
60baa0 No.15429084
>>15429067
Advance Wars deserves a stage at the very least. Though I dunno what it'd be, maybe a city or factory that two armies keep fighting over and you have to dodge tanks and helicopters.
5e21d3 No.15429085
>>15428906
>the newfag redditor trying to cover his tracks
>he thinks getting asshurt at being called out on his newfaggotry is a valid reason to be cancerous
4b43a8 No.15429101
>>15427391
>I know it makes sense to a lot of people, but I think she has a bit of potential to have her own moveset.
So did Dark Samus, yet look what happened. Dixie's fate is sealed I'm afraid (if she get's in).
>>15429048
and kotaku articles written by women
60baa0 No.15429117
>>15429101
The thing about Dixie as an Echo Fighter is that it doesn't make much sense. They designed Diddy to be acrobatic, doing flips and leaps everywhere because that's what he does in the games, but it's not what Dixie does. Diddy has his jetpack and peanut guns from DK64 but Dixie definitely doesn't have a jetpack, though I think DKC Returns gave her a bubblegum gun as an equivalent. Dixie does everything with her hair: grabs, attacks, flies. She doesn't even have a tail which means she'd require a completely different jab combo. Dixie as a Diddy Echo is impractical if not impossible and also lame.
8b4e21 No.15429128
>>15428870
>Wanting ANYONE to remember R.O.B
I was there when he started making threads on halfchan and was there when he stopped making threads here.
Just because someone has age, doesn't mean they're any less cancerous.
5e21d3 No.15429139
>>15429117
Well, Ganon is still a Falcon clone despite all the things they could have done with him. It strikes me as better to give Dixie a new moveset at that point, but I wouldn't count on the devs putting that much thought into it.
52bfe1 No.15429163
>>15429043
>Complains about smell fetish
>Posts a shit touhou character whose hentai is mostly about how bad her armpits stink
Kill yourself faggot.
And no you can smell most smashers from 10 feet away.
5e21d3 No.15429173
>>15429163
show me on the doll where the miko touched you, anon-chan
d260f0 No.15429191
>>15429163
>all this bullshit
I'd expect nothing less from Cucktaco reader.
952447 No.15429445
>>15429163
Of course You would be the one to know just in particular the kind of fetish that this particular character would have. Wouldn't you?
0b8de4 No.15429484
>>15429474
But you fucking posted a Touhou character here >>15427045
You dumb fucking retard
952447 No.15429526
>>15429474
>shitposts about smelling smashfags
>get asked if you happen to walk by people with the intent of actively smelling them
>proceed to bitch about a character that you somehow would know has porn involving smelling armpits
>get called out for it
>deflects further questioning
No do please, go on.
52bfe1 No.15429603
>>15429526
>Same fag bringing up the same retarded non-points that anyone with even the slightest familiarity would know about just from going to tournaments or browsing any chans
>thinks he has a gotcha
>>15429484
Who fucking cares? I'm not a Touhoufag and just posted it as a general response. Nice try, dipshit.
0b8de4 No.15429615
>>15429603
You're a poo poo head meanieface
8c34e7 No.15429643
>>15429117
I agree with your points, but Diddys jab doesn't even use his tail anymore
just pointing that out.
>>15429128
I liked the rob threads
they were comfy and didn't hurt anyone
But dont get me wrong, pointing out someone elses threads as a term of 'image board cred' was beyond retarded on that anons behalf
e8debc No.15429779
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>>15428933
We need Darth Vader in Smash. Represents the Star Wars games and all that.
52bfe1 No.15429792
>>15429779
If non-game characters become a thing I want Garfield first and foremost.
8b4e21 No.15429822
>>15429643
They felt artificial and sucked too much cock near the end of their lifespan, but I'll level with you and say that when they first started, they were very comfy back in halfchan.
It stagnated fast.
535e6b No.15429832
>>15429792
Had a dream that Mr. Incredible got into Smash. His moveset represented Pixar as a whole. He was included mainly because of his popularity in Smash Flash 1 and because of the Incredibles 2.
We also got a trailer for some Warcraft character. I never played Warcraft so I had no idea who it was,
761520 No.15430033
>>15429832
>end of the incredibles
>mr. incredible finally can be a super hero again and even do so while training his family
>incredibles 2
>nah nigga hes a stay at home dad while mum goes through the same arc he did in the first movie
I was disappointed right out of the gate. The trailer told me everything I needed to know.
15f018 No.15430184
>>15428926
dark vader would unironically be a good smash bros character.
>>15429084
i imagine it would be at some black hole base with a big battle going on in the background in front of some insane super weapon that periodically kills all the soldiers and vehicles and is a stage hazard.
speaking of dark vader and advance wars, sturm would be a pretty interesting dude. hopefully with the goofy pig gas mask from the first game as an alternate costume.
cbafca No.15430230
>>15428926
>>15425548
>Eggman
This is a good choice. A simultaneous reveal of Eggman and Dr. Wily (possibly as echoes of each other) would be mind-blowing.
>>15430184
>dark vader would unironically be a good smash bros character.
You could do some cool things with him, but what relevance does he have to video games? He's a film character.
e8debc No.15430254
>>15430230
Well, there are absolute loads of Star Wars games, so I guess that covers him as a video game character sorta. He'd be an undisputed great character on his own, but here's a problem I can foresee: Nintendo has to work with Disney. If there is one thing I do not want to see in this world, it's Rey as an assist trophy. Had episode 7 never happened, disney never aqcuired Lucas Arts and all that shit never happened, Darth Vader wouldn't be bad for Smash to be honest. He'd still be joked about, but for some reason I see more seriousness in him than shit like Goku and Garfield.
6966a2 No.15430287
>>15429792
Out of all the very unlikely characters, my most wanted by far that actually has some shred of a chance is Kiryu from the Yakuza series.I even came up with a general idea of how he would play and what his 8 alt costumes would be. If he's going to happen, it would have to be DLC.
I'd love to have Majima as well, but that may be pushing it if Yakuza gets representation at all.
6966a2 No.15430293
By the way, the Japanese Nintendo Twitter account started posting again. Expect Direct date announcement very soon.
294cbd No.15430330
>>15430287
Kiryu would be a very fun secondary SEGA rep and considering how Tekken didn't pick him up it almost makes me wonder if Sakurai did. Unless they have a way to work in his heat attacks though, I think he belongs more in a traditional fighting game. It'd be very interesting to have a character that uses stage objects to their advantage, though, if that's even possible.
Direct is likely this Thursday, though, calling it.
6966a2 No.15430368
>>15430330
My idea to incorporate weapons with him was to have a menu like Shulk's new Style selector wheel of a few different weapons that break over time. Silly stuff like the traffic cone, bicycle and street sign, nothing too scary or violent since it's a mostly family friendly game. His Heat would build up slowly during battle, then do a simple non cinematic heat action, like Little Mac's Star KO. If Final Smashes are turned on, the heat actions would be more elaborate. Also, his stage would have to be the top of the Millennium Tower for sure.
07d878 No.15430384
>>15428926
>>15429028
>>15429779
>>15430184
>>15430254
Fuck off with your retarded 4th party shit and kill yourself.
15f018 No.15430841
>>15430230
>but what relevance does he have to video games?
jack shit. but as long as its brought up for fun its pretty easy to see him fit in to the game.
>wily and eggman
>echoes
well they do both have the floating science vessel thing going on. they wouldnt necessarily overlap with bowser jr either, focusing more on mad science than wile e coyotes latest roadrunner killer.
its hard to see the eggwalker work out by nature of not having a friendly design for the many melee attacks required in this game, unless they want to slap giant fucking robot fists on it which would be pretty cool.
although, if were going with the eggwalker it might make more sense to include tails as an echo rather than wily.
b5c5ab No.15430879
>>15428926
>>15429028
>>15429779
>>15430184
Star wars was always shit and you should gas yourself.
52bfe1 No.15430904
>>15430230
>A simultaneous reveal of Eggman and Dr. Wily (possibly as echoes of each other) would be mind-blowing.
Mind blowingly retarded you mean.
Why don't you idiots understand how echoes work already? Echoes have to be from the same series as each other. A main character of one series cannot be an echo of a character from another series. Ganondorf was a clone in Melee but even he has differentiated himself enough from Falcon at this point.
dc498f No.15431099
>>15430841
>>15430904
Now that you bring it up, we need the floating science echoes of Baby Bowser, Dr. Wily, Dr. Robotnik, and the Science Vessel from Starcraft 64
15f018 No.15431157
>>15431099
if science vessel uses irradiate on marth he forgets how to swordfight and can only draw anime. this unlocks sailor moon
9931a8 No.15431302
>>15429101
Dark Samus was an easy fix due to canonically being a clone of Samus and being highly requested. As to why Dark Samus doesn't have an original moveset, I don't think Dark Samus is all that important or deserving, as is Daisy or other echoes. They're characters that normally wouldn't make it or deserve to be in Smash Bros. but were given an exception due to current popularity. Dixie on the other hand is the star of her own game, which sold more than Junglebeat and both versions of Tropical Freeze and for a Super Nintendo game that came out after the N64's release. Dixie is arguably just as important as Diddy, and being an echo would not be an easy fix as all of her specials would need to be changed and the basic animations simply wouldn't fit her personality. I'd rather wait for Dixie than have her rushed out as an echo, I think she's entirely deserving of representing more of what the DKC series has to offer.
Another popular echo choice is Shadow, which you could argue should have his own moveset, yet like Dixie despite having his own games, I feel isn't deserving. It also makes sense for him to have a borrowed moveset, being that he pretty much is a clone of Sonic.
>>15429067
How would an Advance Wars character even play? Aren't they themselves generals or commanders, etc?
b5c5ab No.15431313
>>15431302
>As to why Dark Samus doesn't have an original moveset, I don't think Dark Samus is all that important or deserving
She got an original moveset as an assit trohpy in 4.
>which sold more than Junglebeat
Yeah but Jungle Beat was actually good.
b5c5ab No.15431315
>>15431313
> assit trohpy
Am I drunk?
9931a8 No.15431329
>>15431313
Are you implying DKC3 wasn't good?
Also assists and playable characters are widely different and require different criteria to be met. Dark Samus was never that deserving to be a playable character in my opinion and giving her a moveset to match would've taken more development time that doesn't need to be spent on her.
df7c50 No.15431340
>>15431329
If they arent going to give characters their own movesets, they shouldn't bother adding them ad all.
Echoes are fucking cancer and are a blatant marketing scheme to de-stigmatize clones, and sadly it worked.
74f95c No.15431353
>>15431340
>If they arent going to give characters their own movesets, they shouldn't bother adding them ad all.
This. Doesn't matter if the (((echo))) happens to be a character i like, like Dark Samus.
9931a8 No.15431369
>>15431340
This. But I don't think I'd want time spent giving Daisy an original moveset. Although I can forgive some echoes like Richter in a Mario & Luigi sort of way. Dark Pit is somewhat deserving and could have attacks borrowed from Uprising, but then it wouldn't make sense because he's supposed to be a clone of Pit. I think he's the deepest in character hell, nothing will fit with him.
My only problem with your statement is that some people will argue for characters that barely have any potential for an actual moveset. Still, I can tolerate echoes. I think it's alright for characters to borrow moves like Ness & Lucas, Mario & Luigi, Pit & Dark Pit, etc.
07d878 No.15431483
>>15431302
Shadow should be an Echo just because of his similarities to Sonic with obvious differences like Mewtwo's Shadow Ball, Teleport and Up Smash and Down Smash to fit in the character while.
>different series
Ganondorf was the original fucking shameless clone of a character that didn't even have his own moveset to begin with and look where he is now. Sakurai can take literally one look at Twitter and see people saying to just slap some of Mewtwo's moves on Sonic while changing animations to be more floaty like him and Dark Samus to tastefully fit in a more faithful character without using too many resources meant for more original ones.
b5c5ab No.15431900
>>15431329
I'm saying Jungle Beat is the best 2D platformer.
07d878 No.15432077
I shouldn't have listened to Saturos' battle theme, now I kind of want him to hijack Issac's trailer. It would be absolute Sakurai.
8c34e7 No.15432173
>>15430904
> Echoes have to be from the same series as each other.
says who
so far, yes the echoes we got share a series, but theres no reason or rule sin place that say they have to
2b7dec No.15432261
>>15431313
>She got an original moveset as an assit trohpy in 4.
Consisting of what, 2 moves?
>>15431340
I don't give a shit if some nobody characters get model-swapped into the game to appease some fanboys and boost sales. It's minimal effort crap that doesn't take away anything except a few fanboy fantasies. Daisy is an echo because she's just yellow Peach. Chrom and Lucina and Dark Pit are echoes because they lack uniqueess (and in Dark Pit's case is a literal clone too like Dark Samus).
Being butthurt about clones thrown in purely as fanservice in this fanservice video game is pointless. Maybe when an actually important character gets reduced to an echo fighter, then you'd have grounds to complain. But so far it's been nothing but filler characters and thus is a non-issue. So long as there's never another Captain Falcon/Ganondorf, I don't see the problem. When that does happen though, you will be absolutely right.
>>15431483
They already did it with Chrom, who is a Roy clone yet has Ike's Aether. I wouldn't be surprised if they went that route with a few more characters.
I'm half-expecting Jeane as an echo fighter of Bayonetta who will somehow be even more broken.
535e6b No.15432403
>>15430033
Not to mention that the main villain's motivation made absolutely no sense and the shitty designs of the new side characters they introduced.
92cb51 No.15432494
>>15431340
In part I agree with you, characters like dark samus/dark pit could have entirely unique movesets Ganon got robbed, But I don't hate clones enough to get all that upset about this.
Plus chrom is a mix of Ike and Roy so i'm kind of looking forward to see who else gets in.
69316b No.15432827
>>15431302
out of the top of my head
Sami captures the victory!
>B
summon infantry to shoot, sets up approaches
>Side B
motorcycle infantry, like wario, but she's on the back of it, can come down, jump, infantry shoots bazooka in front, jump out of it, etc. infantry block/soak projectiles/hitbox for sami
A tilts could be summoning different units. They could be small, like in the assist trophy.
up tilt could be anti-air
up smash could be battleship
down smash is bombers coming out from the sides
etc
15f018 No.15433030
>>15432827
would her final smash be to capture your hq and take a stock, as in take your life and give it to herself?
2b7dec No.15433051
>>15433030
>Sami's Final Smash is using her Super CO Power to one-shot her opponents' houses
Sounds about right.
d6da97 No.15433874
Anyone else kinda bummed we're not getting new codecs?
f40256 No.15433995
>>15433874
Not really. We had the codecs already and it's pretty understandable why we aren't getting them back. It was a lot more work getting the Metal Gear voice actors, and they probably can't even do the voices anymore.
The question is, are we gonna get more Palutena's Guidances, or something new entirely?
IDEA TIME
Instead of the Snake Codec or Palutena's Guidance, the new funny easter egg things we get are Inkopolis News. Go to Moray Towers as an Inkling and down taunt, and the Squid Sisters Callie and Marie appear to commentate about a certain fighter. If they do this, that means they could do ones of DLC characters instead of saying "it must be a fighter from another dimension" for they wouldn't need to get the voice actors to do new lines thanks to the way Inklings talk.
d6da97 No.15434215
>>15433995
But anon, if the Squid Sisters are already an assist, aren't we getting Pearl and Marina for that instead?
f40256 No.15434250
>>15434215
There's nothing that says they can't be. Remember we got Palutena's Guidance even though Palutena is a playable fighter.
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15f018 No.15434797
>>15433995
i really hope they end up doing that. so far splatoon looks a bit under represented and more people need to fall in love with squids.
52bfe1 No.15435092
>>15432173
Main characters cannot be echoes of existing characters if they're representing a completely new series.
Echoes are derived primarily from an existing character that they're based on. That's the whole point. It's the reason Ganondorf has considerably different moves from Falcon now. Moreover I think Sakurai realizes how utterly disappointing it would be to fans of new series. How would you like it if K. Rool was just a Bowser echo? There's no reason they couldn't have done it this way. K. Rool is able to breathe fire and swing his fists/legs in a fashion similar to Bowser's Up+B, he could've easily had the same moves.
67b629 No.15435403
>>15432827
Why Sami instead of Andy?
9931a8 No.15435424
>>15435403
Because half of the people here are waifu-fag autists who want more girl characters to gawk at so people will draw more porn for them to beat off to.
442530 No.15435485
>>15435424
Don't you have a drawthread to try and police?
9931a8 No.15435515
>>15435485
I don't lurk or visit drawthreads, I'm just stating facts.
d6da97 No.15435618
>>15434250
But anon, don't you want to be happy for Marina for finding out that her wish of humans being real has come true?
f40256 No.15435906
>>15435618
Marinafag is that you?
e558b3 No.15437528
>>15433995
>If they do this, that means they could do ones of DLC characters instead of saying "it must be a fighter from another dimension" for they wouldn't need to get the voice actors to do new lines thanks to the way Inklings talk.
That's not a bad idea, actually.
On a similar note, I'm reminded of the Mr Resetti AT from Brawl and it's funny text phrases that included "impersonating" quotes from the fighters.
6966a2 No.15438627
>>15433874
It wasn't confirmed there won't be codecs in the game. Hayter only said he hasn't done them yet. Nintendo is possibly waiting until every fighter is revealed to have him record them, considering they're being extremely cautious about leaking stuff this time. Even after the Castlevania music leak, they switched to naming the Youtube videos numbers instead of titles to avoid it happening again. They probably don't trust anyone outside the development team.