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Probably because people kept asking him why they couldn't let the violent maniac live.

So then he added the option that also lets them know why.

IJI FOR SLAP CITY

The update is just really weird in general. Out of nowhere a new update so many years later that changes the good ending into a fuck you for no reason.

The rebalancing and other things were nice but, why. It really makes me reconsider if i want to reccomend it anymore

>>15401286

Changed? As i understand it added new endings, one where you spare Iosa, when before the update you couldn't, and the second is full berserk ending. And the old was is stil in game.

the art in the game sucks so bad and the music is awfully low quality

>>15401405

There is hq music download, didn't checked it myself thou.

>shit controls: the game

>fucking awesome

I'm getting a little tired of this pile of garbage being propped up among freeware games. There are far better ones out there.

>>15402611

Post one so I can laugh at you.

>>15400982

Pacifism was possible in v1.6 as well.

>>15401286

Because the game didn't work on anything above 32-bit version of Windows 7.

unironically ranks somewhere in my top ten favorite games, criminally underrated/unknown

Honestly the peak of 2000s freeware, and deserves to be up there with Yume Nikki and Spelunky 2008.

The original la mulana will always be the best freeware game

>>15400982

The best thing about Iji is that it's paficist ending is far, far harder to get then just go in guns blazing. It's a bit more boring, but far more chalenging since you gotta learn enemy patterns, risking taking rockets to the face and sneak around to hack shit as well.

Compared to most modern games where lethal and non-lethal work the same but put a different tag on your enemies (unconscious vs dead), Iji was really great.

>>15402611

It's controls are different from what you usually get in other games, but I think it helps with the characterization of the character, since how she is not really a fighter, not at the start anyway.

But once you get used to them, you can pull off crazy shit and it's pretty great.

Or, you know, you can post alternatives instead so we can play those too.

>>15402747

It was possible but as i understand sparing IOSA wasn't.

>>15402611

What's you problem with controls? It works. Only things thats strange is that you can't shoot in midair and that's all.

>>15403521

Pacifist is harder, but not that hard, but i played on normal. <100 damage is much harder + pacifist is much harder.

>>15402747

>>15404877

This is true. In 1.6, either Iji shoots Iosa automatically, ruining a no kill run or you go through the teleporter, grab the supercharge, dodge the assassins, and are confronted by Ansake, who helps you in the fight and deals the finishing blow.

>>15400982

that may have been me recommending the game as I know I tend to do that when free games come up, then again that thread pops up often

This felt really clunky and I turned it off 10 minutes in. When does it get fun?

>>15404877

The control inputs are flung about on the keyboard at random by a retarded monkey and they can't be remapped, and the game doesn't even support controllers. It's the most embarrassing and incompetent hobbyist game ever, even doujin games don't have controls this hilariously bad.

>>15422236

isn't remar latin american?

is the american liberal the same as a latin american liberal? democrats are a whole different thing.

Well he keeps his politics to himself, something every single person should do anyway.

>>15404877

>>15403521

Don't bother responding to him. Every single time, without fail, Iji is ever mentioned in a positive light, the autist has to go on a tirade about how bad he thinks the controls are and how nothing else in the game matters.

>>15422380

Sorry anon, if the game is unplayable due to complete fucking shit controls, the logical outcome is indeed that nothing else in the game really matters.

>>15401349

I was hoping the sparing Iosa ending would lead to another boss fight against her while she has a super overpowered weapon. Or some way to avoid getting killed off in a cutscene. At least you can still do the original pacifist route with Ansaksie's help.

Still haven't done the berserk ending.

>>15402611

>shit controls: the game

Nah, you're a fucking retard. The game's controls are just fine.

>>15422421

see

>>15422380

arguing with him will get you nowhere.

>>15422224

Are you one of those niggers who cross their hands so they can control movement by left hand from the neighbor thread? The crontrols are just zxc + arrow keys, nothing difficult. Yes there is also keys for weapons, but changing weapons has a cooldown which does end the "fast weapon management" from even happening, and you have 2.5 ways to manage them. asd, 1234qwer and 12345678.

>>15422651

Does someone actually do that? Is he a youngfag? That was the most common control scheme for many games back in the day. Mostly flash games, but also Cave Story and Maple Story IIRC.

>>15422753

probably some niggerfaggot that never played anything more motorically/cognitively demanding that a fucking metroidvania

>>15422769

I've never heard of Iji before, which is why I've been monitoring this thread, so I don't know how it plays or how difficult it is or anything like that. However I do know that ZXC and arrow keys are beyond ubiquitous for keyboard only controls in addition to the number row if necessary. There's simply a massive precedent he seems ignorant to and I find it unfathomable.

>>15422753

>>15422789

He'll complain about any game that has movement on the right hand and no way to rebind it, but Iji seems to be a favorite of his. He absolutely refuses to admit that he might be at fault for being unable to adapt, and instead claims it makes the game "unplayable", despite plenty of people playing it fine.

>>15422789

I played it when I was still wearing flannel, altho the biggest gripe I had with the controls was that the jumping felt a bit stiff and you couldn't shoot mid-air. that's pretty much it idk why that dude is yelling about

>>15422236

>>15422361

Remar is a swede, he doesn't talk about his views at all when I've seen him interact with people so he's better than 99/100 swedes I've seen.

>>15402993

Straight up.

>>15422753

>Cave Story

>back in the day

>>15422789

>beyond ubiquitous

>There's simply a massive precedent

Yeah, and that precedent was established in the mid-'90s with Quake. PC gaming had evolved to recognize a far superior default setup and most importantly the standard was to have control setup so people could choose what they wanted. The horseshit you people are attempting to describe as any sort of standard is more correctly described as A) the doujin scene in Japan never evolving because developers simply expect everyone to play with a gamepad anyway, which ZXCV and arrow key trash map inputs to without any extra programming in a lot of instances, and B) the success of Cave Story in the West inculcating a new generation of indie developers with no sense of standards and simply assuming this setup was acceptable. It's not, and you're not any sort of oldfag for thinking it's good because it's been around a while since the last '00s. It was an extremely cancerous development then and it remains so today.

>>15402993

It's definitely way up there. And unlike Remar's incompetent newbie effort it actually allows proper keyboard input remapping.

>play ijji

>try to go pacifist because i am a moralfag

>something happens and i just restart to go murderboner route

>possibly something you get for completing the game once, like an additional difficulty level

>first boss

>pre-fight dialogue ends with "you over-violent monster"

>uninstall instantly

Maybe it's petty, but reading poorly written dialogue wrapped up with a ham-fisted "HEY PLAYER DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN PLAY THIS GAME NON-VIOLENTLY? RLY MAKES U THINK" destroyed my interest immediately. I don't think I even finished the boss fight after that.

>>15429315

Dude, you completely misinterpreted it. The game isn't judging you for being violent. Krotera is just a dick. He talks shit to you even if you go full pacifist.

>>15429414

It wasn't that he acted like a dick, It was the way the said it. that. No real person would use the word "over-violent". If you try the dialogue option after being a murderous asshole, he could have said "wow, murdering every single person you saw was a great overture to diplomacy, great job" or "this is the shittiest attempt at subterfuge i've ever heard, i will now turn you into a mutilated mess that makes a tranny's axe wound look pleasant" or even "lol u gay" for all I care. I looked at that awkward, stilted, "hey player have you considered that you might have been TOO violent??? nudge nudge wink wink" line and I instantly felt horrendously patronized and the game was no longer fun.

>>15429491

But, again, the game wasn't criticizing you for being violent. That's just Krotera. He calls you a dumbass if you try pacifism, too. Like 75% of the game's mechanics are around you killing dudes. It isn't trying to get you to go pacifist. A running element of the plot is that all the aliens keep considering Iji this crazed monster out to get them (if you don't go pacifist), because they have no idea what her situation actually is and just know that a lone human is tearing through their forces. It's just showing how different perspectives lead to different interpretation of events. There's a point where she goes on a rant about this very thing, when talking with one of them. Alien accuses her of being a violent monster, she yells at him that nobody really gave her a choice in the matter, in the first place.

All I want to say is that I'm glad Iji gets talked about sometimes on this board.

I think it's really great.

Iji is truly the undertale of metroidvanias.

>>15430069

Maybe I should have said "undertale of freeware" but I couldn't think of any other ways to describe a platformer.