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>>15383847

I saw it when it came out. It just wasn't my thing. Not because of the gore, but because of the style.

because its banned in my country

>>15383847

Because it was released under the shadow of GTA 3.

>murder simulation

that sort of answers your question right there. The reality is: you could not get away with making a game like this now, in this climate. All the old and premature balding soygoys would be clutching their pearls at the sight of brutal hammer executions rendered in HD unless it's TLoU where you have to save your dyke genderfluid androgyne child from an evil trump voter. I think murder for murder's sake appeals to that shrinking niche of gamer that went for Postal/Hatred/etc.

>>15383847

It got the best treatment: it was not bought, but heavily pirated.

That way, the company could not profit, and the game was left intact, without endless and soulless sequels to turn it into a shitty franchise.

The best thing to happen to a good game is for it to fail at the market, so it can never be ruined by greedy corporate suits.

We're not going to get anything like it because Rockstar's approach and AAA games taking years upon years to develop.

Rockstar used to release a game or two nearly every year. Then since GTA V they rereleased it twice the two following years and we're only getting a new game from them just now. And the next GTA will be even shittier than V.

>>15383911

But realistic depictions of murder never get old I'm video games. As long as the franchise stayed brutally violent and violently realistic, who on earth would get tired of it? This is why pirating ruins everything.

Because it was a piece of shit that was only played by tryhards. Just like OP.

>>15383847

It's just snuff dude. Nothing special.

I really didn't get that vibe at all. It's hardly murder at all, the enemies will kill you on sight and are murderers themselves to begin with. To me, it's hardly a moral quandary. It's already justified IRL to execute these kinds of people. Because of the brutal nature of the games style, people for some reason call it murder. The dude is literally just working with what he has, shards of glass, paper bags, etc.

The point is that murder is a choice, and this is no choice. The main character is defending himself and executing people to the best of his abilities, which happens to be brutal to witness.

He's not making a choice about it, he's not being very methodical, and likely not even enjoying it.

At a gameplay level it's not bad, but it's anything other than a murder sim.

It probably exist, but I have yet to see anything I would call a murder sim.

>>15384206

Killing simulator then. The point is, there is no game that comes close to simulating what it feels like to really excecute someone as realisticly as this game.

>>15384236

People who enjoyed the game ignored the fact that they could send funds to rockstar for another Manhunt.

>>15383872

Sux 2bu qt3.14 lolbgtqwtfbbq

>>15383847

The godfather game had some good executions along the same lines you are thinking.

>>15383847

The game itself is terrible.

>>15384779

You can't deny how realistic the executions were, terrible game or not.

>>15384356

I'll look into that.

The gameplay isn't actually any good, the executions get repetitive after the first few times then it's just a mediocre stealth game. It only got hyped because of the shock value, and the 2nd game is far superior in that regard.

>>15385014

Ok bro don't take this the wrong way but I'm a lil bit concerned about you right now.

>>15383929

Fuck off, corporate cock-sucker.

Piracy is what prevents greedy suits to have money and also prevents companies from ruining games.

>muh as long as…

If a game is successful, the company will ALWAYS ruin it sooner or later when it is turned into a franchise.

A good game must always fail to make profit for the company, so it remains good and untouched.

>>15384206

The main character was also a death row convinct, and unless he got framed I doubt he’s innocent of murder himself.

>>15383847

because it's a shitty game and the second half of the game is unplayable due to the worst gunplay on the planet

the only reason it' remembered at all is due to its controversy, otherwise it's shit

>>15385362

I don’t think you realize this TORpedo, but games can get good sequels too, a one and done IP might always be good, but it’ll never be anything more.

really wanted to like this but the gameplay is complete shit, piss poor stealth mechanics

this counts as a stealth game tbh

>>15385414

>tfw this time period never existed and every single rockstar game ever released has always had shit gameplay aside from midnight club

>>15384096

>people who put all of their effort into something are bad

Go take a vacation to Carcer City.

>>15384167

Snuff is beautiful though. Manhunt is probably the only game in the world that covers such a taboo topic, and we definitely need more games centered around said topic. Mainly because humans are naturally survivalist creatures and since we always have to fight to survive, why not embrace it and make forms of entertainment around it? It's easier to cope with losing family members that way and the more desensitized a person becomes, the less morally clouded their minds get, so they can make more logical decisions faster in times of desperation.

>>15385340

The second game is definitely better in terms of game mechanics and graphics but it was shorter, also, first game's atmosphere was puregoodand the soundtrack serves as a pillar for the support of the immersion.

>>15385346

People treat me like shit too much in real life. I'm getting sick of it.

>>15385371

The gunplay didn't have much wrong with it. It wasn't the worst, but it certainly wasn't the best.

>>15385380

No, the stealth mechanics were actually very solid and worked all the time. What are you talking about?

>>15385506

That second paragraph is TORpedo tier.

"People" (mainly redditors) got upset when GTA V had a basic torture scene in it. If R* made a new game and kicked that concept up to 11 they'd go nuclear.

If anyone on here got upset/offended over said scene then leave, you're a pussy helping to kill gaming as a whole

>games that sell themselves on maximum edge factor

I had this and I have to ask:

What the fuck were they thinking with the microphone support on PS2?

Who the fuck makes these shit threads? Manhunt was pretty big when it came out. I wouldn't remember it otherwise. Similarly someone made a thread about Doom 3 being underrated or something even though it was one of the biggest games of the year when it was released. Manhunt was nothing but ignored. It got good reviews, sold well and even had a controversy going on and I think it got banned in Australia or whatever for being too edgy. It was successful enough to get a sequel.

I bet next some smartass makes a thread about Halo being "so ignored".

>>15385759

If it weren't ignored we'd have a third Manhunt by now. Or at least an HD remake/reboot. It got a lot of controversy but mainly from people who didn't ever even play the game. Only from people who saw screenshots and videos. The right people (you and I) could've potentially funded Rockstar specifically so that they could make a third Manhunt. Instead, that idea was ignored and Manhunt has been dead for over 10 years.

>>15385429

ok retard

>>15386923

>extremely clunky, slow, and overall shit

I had no problems with it and I was using a DualShock 4 to play through the whole thing. I was playing it on PS4 so the framerate probably helped a ton. Still, I actually enjoyed the gunplay. It really forces you to move tactically when clearing rooms. You probably just didn't want to adapt.

>profit comes from GTA and RDR

All the more reason to pull our thumbs out of our asses and start a fund raiser.

>>15388449

>manhunt

shit gameplay, stealth segments are okay but the gunplay is trash

>the warriors

okay

>gta 3

every single 3d grand theft auto plays like a steaming pile of shit, ESPECIALLY gta 3 as it was the first gta. the gunplay is so fucking bad, the movement is so clunky, and riving is so bad with the unmoveable camera that i would rather shoot myself in the leg than play this shit again

>>15388603

>You probably just didn't want to adapt.

adapt to a clunky pile of shit? no i don't want to adapt to something that feels like shit to play

>>15388603

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=manhunt+gunplay&&view=detail&mid=0DDEEC0549EA0299A9B30DDEEC0549EA0299A9B3&&FORM=VRDGAR

tell me this isn't ass

>>15389009

>as it was the first gta

>first gta

You're not bright are you? Of course its gonna be shit.

>>15389031

first 3d gta is what i meant obviously

he's claiming it's an example of a rockstar game with good gameplay you fucking retard, which it's obviously not because it plays like shit

>>15389015

If you're complaining about the lock-on, it's because of the console controls, making free aim only as fluid as rocks in a blender. On a PC it's better, but even then, because of the free-aim headshot instakill glitch where you can only deal headshot damage to someone when you're locked on. Although this, and the fact that you can't shoulder switch makes for something to complain about, other than that, the gunplay actually holds your hand in close range, as all you have to do to get a headshot is flick up and discharge. Then BAM! Your enemy is dead. So once again. No. There are far worse games with far worse gunplay, Deadly Premonition and Siren Bloodcurse for example, have much worse gunplay, but ironically, they were both made after Manhunt on a younger console.

SO GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING FUCKED BITCH FUCKER NIGGER!

OP is amazing. He managed to stay 13 year old for over a decade.

>Why was this gold so ignored?

Because we aren't 13 years old who are willing to play bad games because 'muh gore'

Actually since we're partially on the subject, why is majority of M rated games (Which stores have to verify that you're older than 17, or receive permission from a guardian, before even selling the fucking game) seem to be market for 12 year olds? Or, at least, give that impression since it seems like the only ones that know their games go into the hands of 12 year olds are EA and Activision (Meanwhile, every other company that wants to make a mature game understands that the M, and other equivalent ratings, age rating is suppose to bar anyone underage, so they proceed to no hold back when it comes to any subject)?

>>15389110

>On a PC it's better, but even then, because of the free-aim headshot

i haven't played manhunt 1 in awhile but manhunt 2 specifically had horrid mouse smoothing when aiming that made it nearly unplayable

>>15389295

because it makes $$$ and guess what kikes love more than pushing propaganda

>>15383847

this game is a mistery to me

objectivelly speaking it was shit from every way you look at it

the gameplay was generic as fuck without anything new to write home about with the exception of the unsetellingly realistic gore and violence

the level design was nothing note worthy, nor the enemy design or variety, nor the mechanics…

BUT I JUST COULDN'T STOP PLAYING IT

it was dull, it was monotonous, it was stupid, but… but…

IT WAS SO FUN

i have no idea how it happened, i have no idea when it happened, but i was having fun with this piece of shit, i was enjoying the generic stealth and the same 3 exectuions every single time, i was enjoying the cluncky fist fight and barebones cover shooting mechanics

i was enjoying hiding in the shadows making noises to draw unsupected victims then leave theyr bodyes in plain sight to draw even more retards to the pile until there were so many corpese that they began to clicp trhough the walls and flor

Manhunt is a shit game no matter how you try to explain it

but i had fun with it, everyone who plays it has fun with it

how does it do that? what magic did Rockstar code in this disk?

>>15385506

>snuff is beautiful

I think people like you might be the reason it didn't get a sequel tbh

>the less morally clouded their minds get

By that logic porn should also make people smarter and more logical. It doesn't, it fucks up your head.

>>15388603

>gunplay didn't have much wrong with it

Vid related

>>15389540

>I think people like you might be the reason it didn't get a sequel

did you know that manhunt got a sequel

>tbh

back to reddit

>>15389540

>people like you

Remember where you are.

>comparing porn to murder and death

That is a horrible comparison you made there. Porn doesn't actually fuck up your head. I would know, I watch tons of it, but neither does it make you smarter and more logical. It simply serves as one of the various methods of semen secretion.

>video of a mentally challenged retard playing the game

The goal is to sneak, not to go in guns blazing. It's an escaped prison convict who has little to no knowledge in firearms or any military experience going up against numerous highly trained ex-navy seals and marines. Engaging in a firefight against those guys is like jumping into a volcano and expecting not to die. Of course you'll get your ass handed to you if you try to take on a marine and not be one yourself.

Have you ever gotten into a fight with a marine or even a cop in real life? If not, do so right now and tell me what happens.

>>15383847

The first 50% of Manhunt was awful as it drags on forcing you to sit through the same kill cutscenes over and over. After you get guns the pace picks up dramatically and it turns into a pretty ok game. But how many people played through all that bad to reach the ok? And how many would say the combined experience was good?

>>15389617

I think the issue is both groups have sexual urges and one of them expresses it in a non-violent, albeit still harmful to the individual that partakes of it, way. The other suppresses it until things boil over and result in acts of violence against real people. This other group also imports millions of sandniggers that are worse than wild animals and rape women in the streets of their asylum country for fun.

>>15389677

Half life wasn't realistic, not even close. The sole idea that you would even compare half life to a realistic game like Manhunt just shows that you've probably sent Gabe Newell photos of your rectum more times than you've had neurons.

>The controversy surrounding the game stems primarily from the graphic manner in which the player executes enemies. In 2007, former Rockstar employee Jeff Williams revealed that even the game's staff were somewhat uncomfortable about the level of violence; "there was almost a mutiny at the company over that game".[26] Williams explained that the game "just made us all feel icky. It was all about the violence, and it was realistic violence. We all knew there was no way we could explain away that game. There was no way to rationalize it. We were crossing a line."

Wow, POZ

>>15389617

>putting words into my mouth

Never did I imply it caused rape or contributed to crime. I merely said that it was unhealthy for your brain.

Although, now that you mention it, porn causes other problems as detailed in vid related.

>>15389642

>thinking I meant Manhunt 1

I know, I was referring to the second one.

>>15389649

>remember where you are

Does that disprove the statement?

>porn doesn't actually fuck up your head

But that's not true.

>the goal is to sneak, not to go in guns blazing

Then why is there a sequence where you get a bunch of guns and have to shoot so many people, without even a proper ability for guerilla tactics. The moment you fire, they all know your location.

I'm not saying that isn't realistic, but why bother with it at all if it can't be fun?

sage because I'm getting way too offtopic

>>15389873

>Does that disprove my statement?

Not due to what I said in particular, but your statement is far from correct. Incorrect even. People like us may be a danger to the modern capitalist society, but who can blame us? Because of our differences in interests and social behavior, we are viewed as outcasts, and as a result, do not get to experience and indulge in the same pleasures as those who are able to "fit in" do. As a result of this, we envy those who are normal and those who are not outcasts, when the insult is added to injury, and we start to get pushed around and mocked after constantly having to suppress our desires to indulge in the pleasures of the normalfags, we become frustrated, thus becoming violent and hateful. Who can blame us though. I'm fucking sick of constantly getting pushed around for being a virgin and not going to parties and even not making out with girls. Even more sickening is that I thought it would end when I finally graduated, skip to 5 years after and I get mocked even more. This kind of interaction from the public really makes me want to re-create what the Not Important did in Hatred, but thankfully, since we have these games which serve as an escape from our torture in the real world, and make suppressing our hatred and ever constantly growing rage for the normalfags much easier. Banning these games is the last thing developers want to do, for the sake of their tight assed daughters and wives.

>although those segments exist, you're never forced to go against mercenaries in a gunfight. Only against gang bangers, loonies, police officers, and SWAT, all of which are not as smart or skilled as mercenaries. Seriously, there isn't a cop in the world who can win a fight against a soldier or a marine, let alone a mercenary.

>why bother at all if it can't be fun?

Who said realistic shootouts weren't fun?

>Does that disprove my statement?

Not due to what I said in particular, but your statement is far from correct. Incorrect even. People like us may be a danger to the modern capitalist society, but who can blame us? Because of our differences in interests and social behavior, we are viewed as outcasts, and as a result, do not get to experience and indulge in the same pleasures as those who are able to "fit in" do. As a result of this, we envy those who are normal and those who are not outcasts, when the insult is added to injury, and we start to get pushed around and mocked after constantly having to suppress our desires to indulge in the pleasures of the normalfags, we become frustrated, thus becoming violent and hateful. Who can blame us though. I'm fucking sick of constantly getting pushed around for being a virgin and not going to parties and even not making out with girls. Even more sickening is that I thought it would end when I finally graduated, skip to 5 years after and I get mocked even more. This kind of interaction from the public really makes me want to re-create what the Not Important did in Hatred, but thankfully, since we have these games which serve as an escape from our torture in the real world, and make suppressing our hatred and ever constantly growing rage for the normalfags much easier. Banning these games is the last thing developers want to do, for the sake of their tight assed daughters and wives.

>then why is there a sequence

although those segments exist, you're never forced to go against mercenaries in a gunfight. Only against gang bangers, loonies, police officers, and SWAT, all of which are not as smart or skilled as mercenaries. Seriously, there isn't a cop in the world who can win a fight against a soldier or a marine, let alone a mercenary.

>why bother at all if it can't be fun?

Who said realistic shootouts weren't fun?

Sorry guys, had to correct my last post because there was a part in it where I fucked up the greentext to an entire paragraph. Oops.

OP here, two things.

1. Let's keep this thread alive.

2. Are we able to do a reboot of the game but change the name and only commercialize the mundane and peaceful parts of the game, so that people only realize how violent it is when they buy the game? How would that tactic work?

>>15389873

>Porn addiction is bad therefore porn is bad

Brilliant statement. Drinking too much water can kill you therefore we should stop drinking water.

>>15383847

It's literally unplayable on all Operating Systems outside of Windows XP.

>>15397534

It's perfectly playable on PS2, 3 AND 4 OS.

>>15397601

Exactly; you'll basically need a shell/emulator in order to play it.

The reason it isn't as prevalent is because of its total lack of support for PC operating systems and the limitations of what systems it was placed on (only PC and Playstation)

>>15385506

They probably treat you like shit because you exude an air of misery and people can tell you're mentally unbalanced. Work on yourself and that might change.

>>15397681

I'll just kill them all instead.

The AO rating in the USA really limited where it could be sold.

>>15398024

Was this always the case? I swear my copy was rated M.

Because it isnt gold and consisted of a three step process of attack, run, hide for the entirety of the game. It was the definition of repetitive nonsense thats only thing going for it was for its time was a cool, brutal concept that they somehow managed to break down into something so boring and monotonous.

>>15398217

Both the games were released with an M rating. However, leading up to release, Manhunt 2 was threatened to receive an AO rating, due to all the controversy it was causing, unless they removed a few of the takedowns and blurred the ones still present in the game. Eventually, a PC release of the game happened with the content restored, and that version was given an AO rating.

>>15383933

>>15385362

>Just pirate everything, pirating is GOOD for video games

Except the people who make good games need money to live and create more good games.

>Giving them money will just make them greedy and they wont make good games anymore!

If they don't get any money then they make no games at all, bad or good.

I'm not saying don't pirate because I do it myself but don't be surprised when developers churn out casual games designed to appeal to the common denominator because whenever they try and make great, but niché, games creatures like you refuse to pay for it so they either go out of business or decide "fuck making games like this we'll just do what EA does".

>c-corporate shill

Nah, cunt, I just know that never paying for well made games just causes the industry to churn out shit.

Popular games will cause sequels and attract a wider audience and the following game/s will become streamlined and shit but that's simply how it goes but if we never buy that one good game then we lose the chance to see another good game and we actively discourage the creation of good games.

OP HERE, KEEP THE THREAD GOING GENTLEMEN. THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!

OP here again, commenting a second time because bumpscumming isn't bad.

>>15397523

Yeah bruh, and I do Blacktar heroin in moderation.

>>15385506

>Snuff is beautiful though.

You're a degenerate

>>15389128

>1st Amendment

Degenerates like you trying to pass corporate manufactured filth as a civic virtue is one of the reasons society is fucked in the head. The men who penned those rights in the constitution would have had you imprisoned for selling "beautiful snuff," probably hanged if it was to children.

Being bated by opposition politicians does not make your position here libertarian, conservative, or classically liberal. These are not amoral philosophies.

Stealth is broken as fuck and AI is retarded

this is why i ignored it

>>15408632

All in good time. This isn't about me, this is about one of the best videogames created yet.

>>15408847

You can't except that everyone has their own hobbies and interests. At least I'm not a faggot or an advocate for sexual intercourse with children. Besides, if it weren't for these kinds of video games, we'd all be killing each other in real life out of boredom.

>>15383926

They re-released gta v AGAIN a couple months ago, it's called ultimate online edition and it costs 70 dollars, wanna know what it contains to justify full price+extra ten dollars? 1 million shekels in online (aka 30 minutes of grinding) and the disc comes with all the updates on disc already, yes the FREE updates, they charged for them, they didn't even put it in a fancy metal case or printed the small ps3/360 manual and map it had, it's just the blue/green case, new cover art and the disc.

Now that I think about It, the Condemned games had a similar premise, but in 1st person perspective, and that game was released on Ps3 and Xbitch360 without any controversy, or at least not as much as with Manhunt. Obviously condemned wasn't as gory, but it was just as realistic, what with the scarcity of ammunition and resourcefulness of everyday objects like vent covers and lead pipes.

Although the Condemned games also suffered a discontinuation.

So, back to my earlier question, could we get away with falsely-advertising another Manhunt game so that people only find out how violent it is when they play the game or watch a walkthrough?

>>15408899

>Besides, if it weren't for these kinds of video games, we'd all be niggers

Nice waste of dubs on a terrible fucking argument.

>>15383906

>The reality is: you could not get away with making a game like this now, in this climate.

and who would stop them, retard

>>15416309

Regardless of the argument, (yes, it holds nothing valuable) these kinds of games hurt no one. People who don't like them can ignore them and people who like them don't have to get upset over the fact that they're cancelled because someone doesn't like what someone else is doing in their own free time.

It's like praying to God in your free time.

If someone else doesn't like that you're doing so when you're not at work, they're retarded.

If I wanted to see dead people, or people getting killed, I'd go to bestgore, which I do. Video games can't depict murder properly, because video games are fiction.

>>15416469

Or the YNC, or Liveleak, or Death Addicts, or Funker 360, or Horrible Videos, or r/watchpeopledie, etc… the point is, we get to decide who dies and how here, and this is the closest we've gotten to emulating real manslaughter.

Besides, this shit beats red rooms price wise and quality wise.

>>15416983

>red rooms meme

The only good ones are the ones where they dig up people and make them dance with rope and play house with them

>>15399446

>Except the people who make good games need money to live and create more good games.

It doesn't matter too much what sells and what doesn't, that is why you have cod games with stupid shit like black nazis. It's actually better when games don't sell well, because not only does the team have to try, but they get one shot to make it good or it's lost. The more successful a game the higher the chance for terrible underhanded tactics.

I feel like I'm the only one who liked MH2 better than 1. I really liked the paranoid and degenerate atmosphere in 2. It's a twisted reality that takes it a bit farther than GTA. I would have liked the kills to be uncensored, but what I saw was enough to satisfy. The moves had more weight to them and felt more realistic than in 1, and I liked the story better, too. Ironically, when people call these types of game immature, these games actually demand the most maturity out of the consumer.

>>15385362

it is a constant fight for balance, too successful and the jews smell money in the water and get their hands on it (see: dead space)

not successful enough and the dev goes out of business and you don't get the comfy not jewed sequels

>>15416983

It doesn't matter. Manhunt has you fighting cartoonish caricatures of Mexican gangs and skinheads. That's neither realistic, nor is it something out of the ordinary for video games. You can't depict murder, suicide, or accidents faithfully in a video game: because it's fiction, no human being is impacted by it. What draws me to gore sites is the fact that those were real people who had real family, who had real connections and lives.

>>15417700

Well you clearly haven't played manhunt enough. It's definitely not as realistic as the real thing, but there's nothing more realistic than Manhunt. Sure it isn't portrayed as well in Manhunt 1 as it is in its sequel, but you have to give the audio and mocap team props that they tried. I would say that the enemies you execute cry, groan, and scream in pain just like in real life, and the gun executions which feature people's heads being only partially blown off also adds to the nice touch, when you consider how someone's head looks after getting buckshot at point blank range.

The point is, unless you know how to cover your tracks and are planning to repent before God after you've killed enough people in real life, this game is the most interactive yet.

I know there's more room for it to be much more realistic, what with today's technology. Remember, we're all our own family here on /v/. As I've said before, if we start a fund raiser and get some capable and willing devs together, we might just be able to get another Manhunt or at least pay homage.

>>15417353

I remember reading that the Rockstar Team that worked on Manhunt actually said that designing the sounds for the game made them physically sick.

>>15418952

>said that designing the sounds for the game made them physically sick

if only the development process for GTA5 made them physically sick

>>15423295

It probably did. Like I said though, money does things.