/v/ - Video Games

>shilling for a game that hasn't even released yet

Oh neat you can play as good guys and also Poland as well as commies according to GOG

>>15377812

This is a bad CoH clone.

>>15377848

this

>>15377879

So according to /pol/ we shouldnt play red alert?

>>15377975

>not this commie glorification bullshit.

None of that is happening, you didnt even bother checking what the game is about.

By the way, in all red alert games you could play as the soviets, so there goes your argument.

>>15377975

You have problems if you cannot separate your political identity from your real identity.

>CoH clone

meaning

>it's terribly optimized

>it's slow as fuck

>the AI is braindead

>it's pro-communism

I sure am HYPED!

>>15378023

The artist is the same, but on their GoG's page it says the companies that developed them are different.

>killing commies as poland with mechs

sounds fun. I'll maybe give it a pirate when it's out, provided it doesn't look like shit then

>>15378133

Isn't the game's "good faction" Poland?

>>15378133

Its about the polish-soviet war but with mechas, i doubt anyone believes the soviets invading poland is a good thing.

>>15378194

Russians might, but they're basically white niggers

>>15378023

It's based on it completely.

>>15378133

>/pol/nigger can't read

Color me surprised

>>15378046

I'd like to see fucking anybody defend this board.

>>15378133

>only child

Stalin had four children. Yakov Dzugashvili, the guy you are talking about, never really got along with his old man after the latter crushed his plans to marry the Jewish girl Zoya Gunina. Yakov immediately showcased how much of a failure he was by trying (and failing) to commit suicide that evening, aiming a gun for his heart but only hitting his lungs instead.

To the best of my knowledge he never actually met his father for the first 14 years of his life. Not that I want to say that Stalin wasn't a thorough sociopath. That brain tumor they found on him during his autopsy probably had something to do with it.

>>15378194

>soviets invading poland is a good thing

Polacks totally deserved invasion, they were bunch of asshats back then.

>Germany invades Czechoslovakia

>Poland butts in to grab some Czech territories

>later on, Germany invades Poland as well

>Poles can't fight German troops, so they start slaughtering Polish Germans out of spite instead

And don't even get me started on Warsaw Uprising, aka "Armia Krajowa throws 200K Poles under the bus".

>>15378090

This.

I'm also not really sold on the game. The gameplay videos looked anemic and combining mechs and WW1 just seems weird considering it was primarily an infantry affair, mechanization only playing a role very late in the war.

Also, the art that inspired it looks equally retarded. Take idyllic depiction of countryside and plop some shitty mech spewing fumes in the middle. The symbolism is the equivalent of having a brick smashed in your face.

>>15378343

Anon learn some history previus to WW2, the soviets tried and failed to invade poland before WW2.

>>15378349

So what? They were just trying to recapture their rightful territories they lost during Civil War. Don't forget that Poland was just a province of Russian Empire.

Isn't this shit supposed to be a big Polish Supremacy simulator? Why the fuck is it pro-communist?

>>15378360

Anon, are you russian?

>>15378278

Read what, faggot? Give me an actual source and not this dude trust me shit.

>>15378306

Literally fake news. Fuck off, Wowa.

>>15378379

Сука блядь.

>>15378360

Poland had once a Polish tzar ruling Russia, therefore Russia is Polish now (though it's more like both are Swedish).

>>15378343

It was Czechoslovakia stealing Polish territories stolen from Czechoslovakia stolen from Poland, I think. Fun times.

>>15377812

Ignoring the fact that this seems to have turned into another flagrantly obvious /leftypol/ consensus cracking thread, it was looking very promising in the mock-ups, but as has already been said, the gameplay looks slow, stiff, and the UI has very strange choices, large Total War style unit cards at the screen bottom instead of top corner tiny unit cards ala Company of Heroes. It's mystifying as to why they didn't just go for a minimalist CoH UI wholesale as it seemed they were intending, the waste of space is huge. The sound needs serious work, it's very flat and weak right now. The very limited suite of animations is offputting, I especially don't like the Saxony MG mech having one over-flourished firing animation and no sustained fire followon bursts. The mechs waddle ridiculously slowly, suggesting there might not be any real fast response/attack units or if there are any they'll be few in number, possibly only existing in one or two of the three factions, and turn the balance on its head when used to their maximum. It was a neat idea, but it looks like they're going to starve the golden goose before it lays any eggs. Very unfortunate.

>>15378636

Most of /v/ are empty headed cattle, all the good posters left already.

>>15377812

>hurr-durr get a giant tin can and awkwardly attach some limbs then cover the whole thing in a few layers of visual clutter to make it "realistic".

Western giant robots really are the worst.

>>15378428

What language families did they threaten?

>>15377994

>separate your political identity from your real identity.

only weak willed faggots say this

>>15379432

Those aren't anything like tanks.

Look at the thing in your third image, three stories tall, no better armed than a tank and with a glass windshield to make it extra useless.

>>15378874

>taking the bait so hard you screenshot it to get angry about again later

Hook line and sinker, holy shit.

>>15380026

are there toys of these things?

>>15380026

In realistic terms bipedal tanks are a shit idea because of how fragile hydraulics are and the square cube law ensuring anything without absurdly wide feet will sink into anything that isn't permafrost or stone

>>15380026

That and godawful center of gravity as well as a vulnerable profile

>>15380101

yeah, most late night/aussie active time are just shitpost and namecalling i dont know why, i think it's aussies and shitposting NEET staying up late.

>>15380148

>>15380148

Scythe and this game are heavily based off the art work of some guy, and they both payed rights to some of the artwork if I recall.

>>15380148

>Turkroaches have the shittiest mech

nice

>>15380165

>>15380146

So that's why mechas of these types aren't viable.

>>15379675

>>15380026

If I remember right, the major justification for this stuff as explained by the artit is that tanks do not work well in this country since there are many mountainous, hill covered, canyon covered, or forest covered regions which make tanks difficult for movement. There is also some bullshit about Tesla making highly advanced hydraulic systems using magnetism or something.

>>15380356

>There is also some bullshit about Tesla making highly advanced hydraulic systems using magnetism or something.

Knowing what kind of genius lies in Tesla's mind, that wouldn't be too far off.

>>15380148

>Poland has better mechs than all of the other factions

Nice to see that the Poles are concerned with game balance.

>>15380370

>>15380356

>The reddit Tesla meme again

goddamn, I thought /v/ was immune to this reddit shit

>video game thread

>"wait, let me find a reason to get offended so i can derail it"

>>15378133

>abandoned only child and when he got captured he told the Germans that they should kill that loser

>/pol/jew is butthurt, shilling and lying

what else is new

In real world though he just told Germans he wouldn't exchange private for a general, when they called him.

>>15378907

But that's a proud americyn womyn, mutt.

Keep /pol/cucks' asses on fire comrades. Fuhrer killed himself and they will too!

>>15380340

Better life in Somalia awaits you.

>>15380507

>reddit Tesla meme

Hey, not my fault reddit taints good shit with their autism. /pol/ also got onto the Tesla meme with trump time travelling, but that's for another time.

>>15380703

Perhaps there'd be a way to redesign it to make a bipedal tank that wouldn't blow.

>>15380703

putting them next to ww1 tanks makes them more charming, because they didnt fully understand what the hell they were doing with the tanks back then either.

>>15380720

but the problem here would be that its harder to evolve something that exists entirely in fantasy when you dont have statistics showing that this or that design is faring better in tests or on the battlefield.

>>15380608

>he thinks Hitler actually died in 1945

>>15377812

>2018

>RTS

It should be MOBA. Does it have modding? If does it would transfer to MOBA in no time.

>>15380340

Shit on them in other departments all you want but they went from being an agrarian shithole to being the first to put a man in space in 44 years.

>>15377812

I like what I have seen so far and since they already got funded I will just wait and see and pirate the test builds if I find them

I also simply like that another dev from my country is trying to make a game that is not mobile-shit or a "Simulator"

This thread is shit, everyone here is shit, you're all fucking morons for taking the bait so often.

Don't entertain the shitposters and they'll hop to another thread, otherwise anyone that wants to actually discuss the game has to wait until it's past the bump limit for them to leave.

What I want to know is gameplay mechanics. Anything known so far?

Base building?

Resources?

Factions?

How do the units work and play out?

>>15381491

>>15381535

>He says this in a thread about a game about a militarny conflict in which Poland was one of the main factions.

>>15381424

>The first tanks worked. They rolled forwards over trenches and barbed-wire and shot at the enemy, then they got better.

The first tanks (specifically, those fielded by the Brits) were living death traps whose crew was constantly immersed in murderous heat, noise, and exhausts from the engine which was housed right in the middle of the damn thing, to the point that entire crews would lose consciousness during prolonged drives or faint when exposed to fresh air again.

The vehicles also were prone to getting stuck in trenches or simply coming to a complete halt due to engine failures, and the Germans had come up with ammo which punched right through the allegedly impenetrable armor. The entire legendary reputation of the early (again, British) tanks mostly came from the British propaganda which portrayed them as a kind of wonder weapon, to the point that tanks were sent into British cities in order to sell war bonds. Fuck's sake, some fags came up with a ballet

That being said, you do have a point about mechs being impractical for trench warfare. Hells, they are completely impractical altogether. What you want is a low profile, not a towering colossus which all but physically screams "Shoot me in the fucking face pls kkthxbye". At the very best, I could imagine some very light walkers whose raised cockpit could make them useful for reconnaissance, or them being more of a terror weapon because seeing a giant, vaguely man-shaped hunk of steel stomping towards you probably would make every man shit his pants.

>>15381554

>militarny

Uh-huh, whatever you say, pan Krzysztof.

>>15381624

Sounds like the only thing more dangerous and uncomfortable than a tank would be a trench.

>>15381632

I'm never again phoneposting

Yes, and? Not a fucking argument, I'm still completely right about what I said.

>>15381624

>That being said, you do have a point about mechs being impractical for trench warfare. Hells, they are completely impractical altogether.

Mecha was never about being realistic, it's just about looking cool, it actually makes me extremely sad about it not being practical. I wish we lived in an animu universe in which mecha are viable weapons because I really want to pilot one.

>>15381650

Seriously, but which conflict are you talking about? WW1? Poland didn't existed back then. WW2? It got stomped so fast by Germans and Soviets it's not even funny actually, it was extremely funny. A made-up fictional non-real conflict where not-Poland is a central power? Well, this is the only type of conflict in which Poland can be relevant.

>>15381639

>Infections and illnesses from lying in muddy trenches all day

>Raise your head above trench and you get shot

>Have toxic gas come down from the sky at random intervals

>Get ordered to commence charges at random intervals, which kills 2/3 of you company for gaining 2-3 metres ground at best.

Sounds like fun.

>>15381624

Mechs aren't supposed to be practical, they are supposed to be cool. The issues about obstacles you mention are incredibly minor compared to the engineering problems of getting all the parts moving to begin with, considering the weight and amount, especially when you'd have to put several motors just for that.

And keep it all reliable they can be used in life or death situations, of course.

>>15381663

I've heard discussions about this before and there were a few scenarios where mechs could potentially be usefull, but they are either quite contrived or very specific.

The higher vantage point to hang weapons on gives them slightly longer range for instance, they are also capable of swapping weapons more easily and even use power tools for logistic purposes. They have trouble with obstacles that tracks do not, but they can climb over larger inclines than tracks can.

>>15381702

>It's always hilarious how poles consider themselves an important power

>NOOO THEY WERE IMPORTANT IN THIS MINOR CONFLICT BETWEEN SPLINTER FACTIONS OF A COLLAPSED EMPIRE

Boy, Poles sure are smart.

>>15381713

>Soviet-Polish war

>almost 800,000 Soviets against 738,000 Polish Soldiers

>Soviets lost 60,000 - 80,000 with 157,000 taken prisoners

>Poles lost about 47,000, had 113,518 wounded and only 51,351 taken prisoner

Doesn't sound like a minor conflict and the Poles seemed to have done quite well, comparing losses and the fact that Russia fucked off back to their country.

Also, LMAO at the propaganda. While Russia was fighting for the Motherland, the Poles were fighting for the Fatherland. I guess we can see who the real patriarchs are here.

>>15381753

>thread about a game based off a military conflict mostly concerning Poland

Nowhere it was said that the game is based on Soviet-Polish war.

>>15381741

See? No one was talking about who did what how. But noo, Poland just has to brag about their only military success in centuries (which was completely negated in 1939 in less than a month).

>>15381749

Those tanks were freaking rolling coffins back then!

>>15381787

>Nowhere it was said that the game is based on Soviet-Polish war.

The game is set in an alternate reality after 1920 on Poland, says so on the dev's site and everything.

Did you seriously jump into a thread about a game you are not interested in and know next to nothing about just to shitpost about a country you have no affiliation or problem with?

Don't you guys have the /GSG/ thread for this kind of LARPing?

>>15381688

Mechs have two primary advantages over tanks: they only need one person to operate, and they take up less horizontal space (important in urban settings). Otherwise they lose to tanks by virtually all other metrics.

I suspect that we might see small exosuits to increase a soldier's firepower and mobility, but armoring them would probably be a waste: the enemy would just field more powerful small arms and defeat armored exos easily. Also the power requirements to move that kind of armor around will be prohibitive for some time yet. As for going full mecha, it's a large expense for such a vulnerable "armored" unit. Not to say there aren't uses for them, particularly in riot control and certain asymmetric warfare conditions, but generally it's not worth it.

Going back to exosuits, increasing the average soldier's mobility and firepower would be a big deal, considering infantry still dominate the battlefield. These could absolutely be viable if they can get the costs down and figure out an easy way to keep the batteries topped up.

In a desperate attempt to get the thread back onto the rail:

What would you think if the primary disadvantage of mechs was not so much their shape or size, but rather their gigantic turning radius? Leaving aside that option that the damn things simply have movable turrets, sneaking up from a mech from behind would give you plenty of time to shoot it - unlike a tank, which can simply turn around on the spot.

>>15381810

How do we know there was a Soviet-Polish war in this alternate reality? It was not even mentioned that Polania was a part of Rusviet.

>you have no affiliation or problem with

What if I'm Lithuanian? Then I have a problem with Poland taking our Vilnius Region from us and then Polonizing the shit out of it, you assholes.

>>15381521

Thanks for the video, but this is a bit of a disapointment. There's very few units and even fewer buildings, plus it doesn't seem like you can build outside of your base.

It's also sad that we're still at the "here's 2 resources, one for infantry, the other for vehicles, used when building" when there's a lot better things that can be done with this.

I was expecting Iron to be used for construction of everything but Oil to be a "maintenance resource" replenished by controlling refineries and drained by your mechs so the number of mechs you could control would depend on how many refineries you control, stockpiling some in case the oponent takes them down to bleed you out of oil. Your mechs would stop work entirely if you ran out of oil, forcing you to use infantry instead.

Also, same shit for infantry but with Food instead, severely making them worse in combat if you don't have any food stored, coming from farms spread around the map. Maybe even have village centers or similar buildings periodically sending you Recruits and that's the resource used (in conjunction with a small amount of Iron) to make more soldiers.

There's Soviets in the game, it makes sense that starving them to death should be a strategy after all!

It looks like a beautifull fun game with nice aesthetics and all, but it also seems quite simple and will be forgotten shortly after being released, sadly. It has a unique setting but the gameplay really isn't unique at all.

>>15381856

Agreed. It's not even so much the armor but the ability to carry heavy loads - and more specifically, heavy weapons and the weighty armor they require.

>>15381843

If that's the case, I'd think you'd have more of an issue with the soviets taking your entire country and trying to russify it.

>>15381856

Goddamn silent story was the fucking pinnacle of turn based tactics games.

>>15381841

If we're talking about mecha in general, let me just say that I'm really dissapointed that there is close to none western super robot media. It's like every single mecha creator in the west wants only to take the "slightly more realistic and believable war machine approach", which is cool in it's own right but I would love to see something silly and 100% based on rule of cool made by westerners.

>>15381843

>How do we know there was a Soviet-Polish war in this alternate reality?

Because the whole premise of the fucking game is about Poland fighting Soviets?

>What if I'm Lithuanian? Then I have a problem with Poland taking our Vilnius Region from us and then Polonizing the shit out of it, you assholes.

Then you've literally came into this thread to shitpost because of your fucking bias and contribute nothing to the discussion. This is not making you look any better.

>>15381837

>they only need one person to operate, and they take up less horizontal space

I just remenbered that there was a bit of a revolution in naval warfare with battleships having cannons at the front since they could form a battleline that had far more units in the same space, thus bringing more guns to the fight and giving them an amazing advantage.

I'd wager there'd be something similar (but not quite the same) with Mechs since you could field several of them with a lot more guns in a single battleline too, but then again the rules of warfare in land might not allow for this tactic.

>if they can get the costs down and figure out an easy way to keep the batteries topped up.

Good batteries are currently the biggest limiting factor in many, many things actually. Powerstorage isn't as simple or efficient as most people believe so the next big advancement that can change humanity will be powerfull portable batteries.

>>15381843

You're not in the thread to argue about Iron Harvest, you're here to shipost about eastern countries. I'd filter you but it seems you're ID Hopping so I don't even know if it's worth the effort.

>>15381882

>but I would love to see something silly and 100% based on rule of cool made by westerners.

Warhammer 40k titans?

>>15381856

To be honest when I think about it, a lot of mecha operate under the idea that it's more like gigantic power armour rather than tank-esque machine although that differs from example to example. Both eastern and western media have examples of both.

>>15381890

Yeah, I agree, 40k mecha are kind of like that, but that's an obvious and very well known example and I was seeking more things like that.

>>15381841

>discussing viability of mechs

>on track

lolno

They're in the game already, no need to justify them. If you want to talk tanks, talk about a game where the premise isn't "dude mechs lmao". Speaking of premises, from what I've read, The Great War has just ended and Saxon Empire, Polania Republic and Rusviet (taking clues from Games Workshop, I see) are about to have a go at it again. And Rusviet's about power struggle between Tzar Nikolai II and Rasputin. what

>>15377812

>I didn’t see anyone talking about this game that could cause a political shitstorm.

>here, let me pour gas on the fire by wording my op post as provocatively as possible.

>within minutes, /pol/ vs. /leftypol/ shitflinging, amerimutt posting, other assorted shitposting and bait.

Maybe there was a reason no one was talking about it.

>>15381878

What episode of King of the Hill is that? I don't remenber Hank Hill ever wearing no power armor.

>>15382147

Used to be the single most simple rule you could follow: "don't feed the trolls" and yet the same people bitching about newfags can't do that. At this point, replying to bait should be a bannable offense for an hour so everyone learns to cut that shit.

>>15381513

Isn't this the picture on which the 56% face is based?

It's not even out, you can't even play it. What there is even to talk about?

>>15380507

I was just saying the in-universe explanation for it. It is just an excuse to have mechs in WWI pretty much and for the guy to draw angry tesla in a giant wheel bike.

>>15377812

>RTS

>on console

it's gonna be shit

>>15381994

political boards were a mistake

>>15382147

>first pick

Thread was about being able to crossdress in butterlord. There was nothing to salvage, vol was being a retard and after being called so the thread got deleted.