/v/ - Video Games

>>15355178

The west will never die in popularity just as it will never reach it's peak in quality again like in the 90s

Considering that all the poz still sells, I highly doubt the west will unfuck it's shit, anon. Nu-God of War is the best selling game in the series, and still keeps topping europoor charts.

>>15355196

I never said Nip games will be like how they were a fountain of fun and happiness 20-30 years ago. Of course their localizers and bosses told them to include pozz for the gaijin pigs but they are indifferent to pozz itself. Remember how we begged for Yoko Taro to get another localizer for Nier Automata and he told us that it wasn't his problem?

>>15355220

>bosses told them to include pozz for the gaijin

Even as it happens before your very eyes weeaboo she will still shift blame from their precious japs.

It's directly related to the Xbox One's lack of sales. The only reason Western vidya was on top last gen was because Sony fucked up so hard with the PS3. Microsoft took advantage of that situation to start many of the terrible trends that dominate vidya today, like day-one DLC (or DLC in general), achievements in place of unlockable content, "gamerscore", spending magic funbux on cosmetic bullshit, etc. They were able to do this because the casual fanbase that was built up on the PS2 through its shovelware market moved onto 360, and a company with actual vision like Sony wasn't able to keep them in line. Instead Microsoft pandered to them and made its entire business model around them, forcing their retardation onto everyone else.

tl;dr as long as Xbox keeps failing gaming will keep recovering. Let's hope Gaben's Linux venture pans out and he can kill Microsoft on PC as well.

>>15355238

Some but not all add pozz on their own. Ono and Kojima are definitely guilty but I would never imagine Kamiya allowing pozz for Bayo 3. If that ever happens, I will sell/donate my Switch to someone else

>>15355250

>implying (((Steam))) is any better than Microsoft.

>>15355287

That's actually news to me. Gonna dig through his twitter since I haven't heard about him since last year.

>>15355250

This is a very based and redpilled post. You know your shit anon. Microsoft really has royally fucked everything up. What is funny is before them Atari (hint hint, another western company at the time) ran vidya into the ground before Nintendo (a japanese company) was able to save it from disgrace.

The important thing to know here is that most western companies do not having gamings best interests in mind. They want to run the industry into the ground with greed. The Japs have shown time and time again they are the best fit to run the industry. Whenever the west gains the power everything just goes to shit. Its too bad Sega was so mismanaged because we would have been so much better off if they were still making consoles and were successful enough that Microsoft wouldn't be able to make a dent in a bloated console business ran by Sony, Nintendo and Sega. Microsoft wouldn't even bother because they know at best they'd be a distant fourth.

>>15355199

The poz is not selling, it did for a little while but the past two years it has declined sharply. Battlefield V is tanking, normalfags are getting more upset at pay for play online services, and Japanese actual video games are selling better and better. DOA6 is also destined for failure while SC6 preorder look strong as fuck. No one gives a shit about SJWs

>>15355196

>>15355287

is this the same guy from the gamergate thread that was poisoning the well with every post? What's wrong with him? Why isn't he permabanned on sight?

>>15357798

the thread has 22 replies you egregious faggot.

>>15355196

>just as pozed

I would have thought all the fan service and skill-based gameplay disproved this statement, But I guess not

Bump

>>15359143

Any thread with 37 replies from 29 UID's is abnormal.

Note that none of them are even replying to each other, they just throw in a comment and their done.

>>15359211

Okay. Thanks. I'll talk about vidya, then.

>>15355178

Instead of East vs West, I think it's more important that the current gatekeepers for vidya fail/lose relevance, which would allow for more experimental or passion driven projects. Businessmen see opportunities to make money and squeeze every drop they can before moving onto greener pastures. It's how things have always been. They ride the waves of trends in search for the next dollar, leaving hobbyists to pick up the pieces every time, until it's ripe to exploit again. Viscious cycle. The recent one is especially bad because media is now more than just profitable, but political, and seen as a social influencer, so there is more acceptance of losing profits of they can captire other gains. Plus, I can see a desire to normalize inferior quality products so that the consumer no longer carries expectations. Still, trends show that people will always be able to create a "new" thing, and the businessmen will have to move on to stay relevant. They are all cutthroats, after all. I saw another anon's post a while back, very astute, that essentially amounted to: hobbyists need to get better at business and gatekeeping if they want sustained quality, but most of them care more about delivering a good product they themselves enjoy, or letting someone else make the decisions and taking the kind of money they could never dream of, realizing the better businessman will push them out whether or not they acquiesce.

I play a lot of strategy games and that genre is absolutely dominated by the West. Thankfully strategy gamers are pretty hardcore and have no tolerance for SJW bullshit, but there is definitely some pressure in that direction from the artfags in Paradox and other companies.

Also playing Monster Hunter World right now and it's fucking great. Bless the japs for putting some decent shit on PC. Wish they weren't shitting the bed with the new DOA, I actually liked those retarded games and it wasn't just for the titties.

>>15358134

>boycotting japan

Yeah, that's what happened. Sony didn't overprice their console and end up paying for it.

>>15358134

>Remember how the last decade you were a retarded xbox 360 mouthbreather, boycotting japan

Not really, I was too busy playing my DS, which I still consider my best gaming experience ever.

>>15358134

>Not living off Doom wads, mods and obscure Slav games for years before actually trying out Nip console games

play hitman

>>15355178

Fortnite and PUBG count as vidya from where?

>>15374666

Why?

>All this ID hopping

jesus christ. I'm taking care of it.

>>15358178

>Implying the new Spider-Man is anything special

if anything it looks like a rehashed Spider-Man 2. The issue is that is that the combat for a Spider-Man game hasn't been done well since Web of Shadows, there's these forced stealth segments into these games and I hate it.

>>15382454

>mark actually doing his job

Is this bizzaro /v/?

>>15382486

Cuphead, Titanfall 2, Speebot, Hellbreaker, Spark the Electric Jester, Just Cause 3, Superhot and Hollow Knight were all pretty fun games.

>>15382484

Someone reported it, so I'm taking care of it.

Also I'm gonna get some shit from this, but even if it's not as good as the original DOOM, I kinda liked NuDOOM. I just made believe it wasn't named DOOM.

>>15382500

Just keep up the good work. /v/ has been really good recently.

>>15382501

NuDoom is an ok painkiller game.

>>15382509

Thank you for enjoying /v/.

>>15355178

>only since 2016

nigger, the worst period was 2014-2016, when there was nothing but shit. Since 2016, things have been marginally improving, at least, with some AA studios making a comeback

>nip games

Are in the same predicament. Mountains of shit with the occassional gem. Honstly, what do Nip games have? JRPGs?

>abysmal writing on level of a highschooler

>probably the worst combat system known to mankind

>100+ hours of extreme grind

All they've got is tits and fanpandering, but they're incapable of making good gameplay (or even story) save for the rare exception

>>15382515

Yeah, that's basically how I approached it. It's NOT a modern DOOM game. It's more akin to something else like Painkiller. If they sold this as its own IP, I wouldn't be so salty about it. Also there's too much fucking WUB in the OST.

>>15382520

Yeh the OST is a crime compared to the original game.

>>15382518

Well I would argue that nips have more gems than the west does. Granted I believe the west has gems of their own, but because of the political climate and the publishers here being suits first and foremost. We can't really have our Yakuza's and Devil May Cry's since a ton of talent in game dev is forced to either be part of a clique or get fucked. I was speaking to a game developer friend of mine who's trying to make his own game, right now he's using his own money. However he's trying to find a publisher that won't fuck him over, which he's been trying to do for years now. The fact of the matter is while we still have good games, Japan actually has some publishers that won't fuck you backwards because you don't share the same politics as them. Additionally the nips have a certain level of professionalism that the PR and marketing people here lack.

>>15382528

yeah, at least with the original game it was dark and fit the game. NuDOOM is just WUBBA DUBBA CHUG.

>>15355178

As long as it sells, they won't change a thing.

Honestly, my assessment of western AAA gaming is that it's going to be the norm for now and into the future.

The industry is reaching that "maturation" point where nearly everyone alive has, or does, play video games. Therefore expectations are mostly cemented across the genres.

Just look at the state of gaming, if an fps doesn't check certain boxes most people won't touch it. If an rpg doesn't check certain boxes most people won't touch it. If an mmo doesn't check certain boxes most people won't touch it. Etc, etc, etc.

The period of revolution and new ideas is almost over in gaming. You'll always have small upstarts who manage to break through with something they made with love and shake up expectations a little, but beyond these small breakthrough indie hits shit will stay the same for a long time.

This is gaming now, it's no longer about gamers making games for gamers. It's suits funding programmers to reskin an existing engine and adapt existing code so they can slap a new number on the same old title, slip in some kind of dlc and random mechanic to inspire further player investment and then do it all over again the next year.

Not trying to be a fag here either, it's just what it is. The suits will continue to push for more ways to skim money from the consumer and we'll get the occasional break out title that reminds us why we actually love gaming.

>>15382547

Well yeah, that's why we're in the dark ages to begin with. The problem is that publishers don't know who to cater too, like in the past they'd usually go for what's popular. However nowadays gaming is mainstream and the latest new meme game usually happens by pure chance. If they were smart they'd set realistic expectations and goals rather than trying to milk the call of duty cow. I like what THQNordic is doing by not spending a shitload of money and both reviving old IPs while funding new ones. Time will tell if they manage to become the next big publisher or die like Majesco or the original THQ.

>>15382493

>Cuphead

>boss rush contra with parrying

nty cool artstyle tho

>Titanfall 2

>cover based FPS

nty

>Speebot

>generic phone-tier platformer tech demo

nty

Hellbreaker

>generic fps with sub-quake graphics

nty

Spark the Electric Jester

>generic indie not-sonic

nty

Just Cause 3

wasnt this game just a graphical upgrade from 2 and a downgrade in every other respect?

Superhot

>meme game made popular on youtube

>made with vr in mind

interesting concept. is it actually fun though? it doesnt look fun.

Hollow Knight

>another indie 2d platformer soulslike

nty.

>>15382515

>>15382520

painkiller was a super generic serious-sam tier copycat… and still manages to shit on nudoom. glory kills, arena-corredor-arena level layout, small battles of spawning enemies… just killed nudoom for me.

>>15382588

>>Titanfall 2

>>cover based FPS

It was legitimately a good campaign. It's FAST and BT is a huge bro. The levels were fucking excellent, too.

So, you're fucking retarded.

w

>>15382710

>>15382726

>>Titanfall 2

>>not cover based

even if thats not the only way to play, its definitely how the game is structured. maybe you dont know what a cover based shooter is?

>>15382719

>ebin qte's

so excellent XD

>>15382588

And yet they are all better than Warframe

>shit chan deleting threads at will

checks out

>>15355178

There were no japanese games that let me interact with the AI and actually feel like I interact with the world like Hitman or Prey or Dishonored 2 did.

>>15383313

>Prey or Dishonored 2

Get out

>>15385008

>dragon age 1

>not playing human noble, marrying the queen and furthering your family + granting the grey wardens political power

>>15383331

I didn't play Dishonored 2 so I can't comment, but Prey was pretty solid. It gets tedious by the end but I found it to be pretty original and I'd recommend it to anyone who likes immersive sims, it does a lot to stand out. I'll give it a 7/10 but where 5/10 is something mediocre that is just as fun as not playing anything.

>>15355178

People can say that Japanese vidya is cucked too, but that is to appeal to the west

>>15382735

>qte

What do you mean by QTE? "press X to get in your titan"?

The west didn't improve in quality. It was collusion in the media. Microsoft, Electronic Arts, Bethesda and Sega of America colluded with a bunch of the big games journo sites to straight up push a 'japanese games are boring' narrative for cash.

The idea was to cause japanese companies like SE to panic, take all their projects back to the drawing board thus giving Microsoft their push to set up post Bungie Halo, EA to start their jump from moviegame producer to original IP creator with stuff like Dead Space and Mirrors Edge, Bethesda post horse armour was trying to push dlcs or 'funpay minibuys' in rpgs as the norm and needed the jrpg giants out of the way to do it and SoA just did it because they have been dirtbags going as low as hiring the yakuza to kidnap employees family members since the 80's.

They even wined and dined certain japanese 'brand traitor's like Mikami and Inafune with this. Insert dissension and hopelessness from the inside then leave with a western job waiting for them. All for two years of breathing room.

We all know what happened. EA became a giant, Bethesda made paid dlc from finished content before launch the norm and companies like Capcom nearly died while Square Enix nearly killed most of their brands falling for the "we need to target wider market appeal to break into the west!" forgetting that 9 of every 10 best sellers year after year were from japan exclusively. But after the rocky launch of the ps3 japan was worried and the paid of journos at IGN, Gamespot and the like played them on that. Inajewne and Mikami fled, their damage done, to make The Evil Within for Bethesda and Mighty No.9 on kickstarter to massive publicly shaming. Both considered hard traitors by their former dev teammates and completely excommunicated from the industry over there.

For a while it worked. Pushing "im such a geek xD" culture helped by bringing the socjus crowd in that view anything from japan as 'gross anime shit' but money talks and it could only last so long before the factory process of copy past sequels in the west fell flat and japanese devs had enough of CEO's that fell for the corporate sabotage and made passion projects again, ironically what lead to the creation of shit like Final Fantasy and Pokemon to begin with.

There are a lot of books like The untold history of japanese game developers that talk about it but mentioning it on any western site with a remote connection to the companies above will get a lifetime ban.

>>15385946

>name books by name

>WHERE DA LINKS THO, DA INTERNET SITES NEVA LIE :DDD

Fucking read brainlet.

>>15383331

Bethesda hater btfo.

>>15385855

It's not Bethesda's fault Skyrim is super innovative and became the highest rated western game in a prestigious japanese gaming magazine. It's not Bethesda's fault their games are the only truly sandbox AAA RPG out there.

>>15385961

>Books never lie

How stupid can you get?

>>15385964

Epic

How Bethesda games track each one of their tens of thousand NPC's and object placement, combined with sprawling open world and sandbox RPG gameplay, is still unmatched by any game ever made.

>>15386026

S.T.A.L.K.E.R

>>15386040

>play call of chernobyl

>make way to cordon

>too much population

>game chugs into single digit framerate before crashing

No. Also not RPG and not sprawling. Too much tracking of meaningless NPC activities that add nothing to the gameplay too, it's crazy unoptimized.

>>15386047

Sound like a better Bethesda game.

>>15386052

Yeah, if you're a contrarian.

>>15386059

>If you're not a Redditor

FTFY

>>15355178

Dominated by western marketing, you mean.

I am glad that the leftist propaganda (not games) from western developers are failing.

Spiderman is also being made by leftists, and thus, it will be shit. See the video to know the numales and other subhumans that are making this guaranteed shit.

>>15385855

THIS.

But there is nothing wrong in giving money to the Yakuza.

And the book you mentioned must never be bought, as the writer is a leftist.

>>15357228

He is the same impotent leftist sperging about "the jews won/we lost" in other threads.

>>15385964

Bethesda is shit.

Skyrim is shit.

Retards paid for shit.

>>15386059

>"muh contrarian" impotent soyboy sperg

>wah wah i will call them contrarian for pointing out that a shitty game is indeed, shit wah wah

>>15386171

>There is nothing wrong in giving money to absolute scum

Fuckoff

>>15386171

If it's shit then how come do I and millions of other people out there who love bethesda games enjoy it thoroughly? Dumbass vocal contrarian faggot.

>>15355178

post spiderman