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One is markiplier youtube bait with diversity.

The other is proper dwarf fortress clone.

>I wanted to get RimWorld and acutally pay for it

that's where you went wrong.

never pay for proprietary games unless you want the multiplayer and installing steam botnet is not a requirement. never pay for early access games.

>rimworld has no multiplayer

>rimworld is proprietary

>rimworld is early access

Oxygen not included requires that factorio level of autism where you stop paying attention to actually playing the game and just see the numbers behind everything.

>>15344674

It's worse.

Task prioritization doesn't work.

What I find intriguing about ONI is the system of flowing water and gases. The idea of a water break in, a gas leak or water contamination with sewage seems great.

Does that actually matter or these factors neglibile?

>>15344732

It matters but all it does is test your patience. Like when you've got oxygen producing out the wazoo but for some fucking reason your entire farm area becomes completely carbon dioxide making it so no oxygen ever enters the room so now all your crops die and you have to build a new farm in a room thats not full of carbon dioxide and then just hope it doesn't happen again because theres no clear reason why it happened in the first place.

>>15344732

I only tried it early on but if you didn't have things set up you could potentially even suffocate everyone in their sleep. No idea what they've added since, would have been real nice if they had different appointed sleep schedules. You could definitely fuck your shit up if you weren't being mindful.

>>15344751

Duh, plants take oxygen and produce Carbon Dioxide. Thats why we chop down the rainforest.

Right?

Never played ONI, but RimWorld has given me a good number of hours of entertainment. Mods are a must, unfortunately, so maybe hold off on that until 1.0 has a good amount of mod support behind it.

>maybe you even know games that are better than both of these two combined

Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead was what got me off my RimWorld kick, so try that. Bonus, it's absolutely 100% free.

>>15344751

What a cheap way of forcing balance on the game. I know there are plants that require different atmospheres but that's just trash.

>maybe you even know games that are better than both of these two combined

Dwarf Fortress

>>15344786

That games doesn't look so good to me.

It seems to have the same control scheme as Elona. That is unnecessary complex and spread all over the keyboard.

But then again, all I know about it is that one review by Sseth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyoj4-niEPc

>>15344664

>The other is proper dwarf fortress clone.

I love Rimworld, but it's not a DF clone. They have some key parallels like world gen, character and resource management, and base building, but the scale and content of the two games are very different.

ONI definitely seems like the kind of game for people who like planning, its hard to play if youre someone who doesnt like to do their homework. it can be pretty easy to fuck up.

>>15344751

dont the plants just spring back to life as soon as you restore the proper atmosphere?

>>15344775

Don't. ONI is unfinished shit, the mechanics are very inflexible and the AI is trash so you have to set things up in a very restrictive way, it doesn't give much room for creativity or fun. There's also basically nothing at endgame. That's a flaw in most games like this, but with ONI it seems like you had reached that point a long time before you realized it.

More than any other game I implore to not buy this one in early access, wait until it's finished if you want to try it because it really seems incomplete, as in not ready to be sold even in early access.

It has interesting ideas but comparing it to Factorio seems like an insult to the latter.

>I wanted to get RimWorld and acutally pay for it, because it is a very good game I played previously in its pure pirated form.

Either you want to support it or you don't. Any other games consist in a vacuum outside your enjoyment of RimWorld.

The only thing I think one should consider looking up before supporting a game outside of pure gameplay/quality, would be the politics of the game company. Do you support their opinions and what they've done in the past? If they're regressive SJW's you might want to reconsider your support for their product simply in order to not advance and reward such an agenda.

>>15344674

It actually terrifies to even so much as look at factorio now. My brain was never big enough to handle it and I'd end up spending hours upon hours thinking "this is great!" only for it to not be great and I'd slit my neck

>>15344950

>Unnecessarily complex

It's a roguelike you retard. CDDA probably has one of the least complex schemes of them.

ONI is interesting for one or two games, but it's kind of a drag to play, as everyone else said, mainly because of the shit AI. I've gotten about 20-25 hours out of it, but wouldn't have paid for the experience, it's obviously early access shit. Also every time you play it, you have to follow the exact same steps every time, there's surprisingly low replayability for a sandbox game.

Rimworld on the other hand I've gotten several hundred hours out of, the core gameplay is solid enough that the masses of mods have something to build on, and I think it's decently polished for what it is. The many mods always end up giving you a somewhat different-to-radically different experience when playing with a new set of them. The endgame is still ultimately reached where you are pretty much out of shit to do and nothing interesting ever happens, but it takes a good amount of time to get there. I'm somewhat ashamed I still haven't bought it after playing it so much, I don't have any excuses.

>>15345465

>play the game of which fundamental aspects of gameplay will never be addressed

>>15345458

>The Duplicant stood on the tile he wanted to dig away and fell into the hole

They also get stuck outside your base and start starving because they refuse to walk over a puddle, walk into an enclosed place through water and then suffocate and refuse to walk back the way they came, constantly dig themselves into high places unable to get down, entomb each other into walls because they can't figure out that someone was standing there, drop items into your water supply because they suddenly got the urge to go take a shit while walking over it, drop their food all the way down your main vertical ladder for the same reason, walk all the way to the other side of your base to do something only to stop and go back to take a shower, the chef starts eating worms because they got hungry and was too impatient to finish cooking, or perhaps he thinks it's more important to take a shower than cook when people are starving, and generally waste huge amounts of time walking back and forth because their basic urges immediately and completely and constantly override whatever they were doing.

>any more stories and experiences about RimWorld, ONI or anything of the sorts are appreciated

Like how you play ONI before learning about heat mechanics, so your water supply has heated to 40 degrees having gone through all kinds of natural gas generators and water distillers, so it heats all the water pipes in your base, and it also goes to your electrolyzers which generate even hotter oxygen which is vented into every corner of your base, so now your entire base is 40+ degrees and your plants die and everyone's stress goes out of control and they start vomiting everywhere and beating up your oxygen generators over and over and make the entire situation completely unsalvageable? I don't have that kind of stories.

>>15345478

>There's basically zero RNG in ONI.

Except for all your NPC properties and the things that spawn for you in world gen and things related to animals.

>>15344950

>unnecessary complex and spread all over the keyboard

It's simple and easy once you learn about using the hotkeys and you can open up the menu to see said hotkeys at any time. It's not designed to be played with a mouse like RimWorld is, so maybe it isn't for you if that's what you're used to.

>>15345633

Ya know. I am gonna give it a try. After all it is free.

>>15345643

I suggest Aavak if you want a crashcourse on basic mechanics and earlygame-midgame tips and strats. Best of luck, don't get ate.

>>15344634

Oxygen Not Included makes you have to do everything autistically because there's nothing else to the game other than managing your colony of autistic retards who want nothing more than to shit on the floor

>>15345465

>should I play this game or this game

>I know I should scoop my eyes out with a shitty UI and terrible concept for mechanics because fuck you

Yeah no. Call me back when the guy actually puts some effort in his work

>>15349312

This is what happens when you're raised on flash games.

>>15349412

The UI has been a problem for a while. Don't get fucked up, I don't mean the art, I mean the actual user interface. Refusing to deal with it because "theres more to add and that would just mess it up again" is not a valid excuse, because there is always going to be "more to add"

>>15345465

I don't even mind the shitty graphics, but

>everything has several menus

>it's menu in a menu in a menu in a menu

>"like, just memorise a gorillion shortcuts, bruh"

Fuck you, that's just terrible design. If it at least had mouse support so you could right click on whatever and get a drop down list of menus, but it's not even that.

where do you guys get your rimworld mods from? rim-world.com's search is kinda broken

>>15344786

someone showed me cdda and tried getting me into it but i thought it was too complicated. should i go back and check it out again?

>>15344634

>ONI

>it's the soyboy game, not the game by bungie

>>15350564

absolutely

Rimworld has a lot of No Fun Allowed in it. It's interesting to play an attempt at a balanced Dwarf Fortress, but DF is way more fun.

>>15345663

maybe it has something to do with 8chan showing up on google

>>15353985

He was operating on someone on the other side of the dog.

Rimworld is pretty good.

>>15344634

Rimworld is great and definitely worth the cash.

You can play it forever with mods.

>>15345465

DF fags polluting another thread

Tried a billion mods but the only one I use is no combat slowdown because that's pretty much essential if you don't want to go crazy. The current dev branch feels pretty complete without mods unless you guys think there's another essential I'm missing.

>>15350508

Plant cells undergo respiration for energy using oxygen just like us, but they also produce oxygen from carbon dioxide using photosynthesis. With a deficit of either gas they won't survive forever.

t.what I remember from grade 12 bio

>>15344669

>never pay for proprietary games

can non-proprietary games be sold? I don't understand.

Rimworld is a fine game if you:

A) Don't compare it to Dwarf Fortress, because it's both inferior in some ways and superior in others, and nobody will ever fucking agree on those.

B) Don't get triggered like a special snowflake by the fact that sometime random PCs spawn as fags.

>>15375933

>Don't get triggered like a special snowflake by the fact that sometime random PCs spawn as fags.

But you can get triggered in-game and make the homos life pure suffering until it decides to leave the colony, but passes out before getting to the map's edge due to being surgically crippled and naked in hostile weather, and then "saving" it so it can suffer more until it finally snaps and decides to live as the beast it always was. Then your colony gets a hilarious pet in the wild man that tries to ineffectively eat your colonists but always fails due to having barely any limps and no jaw.

>>15375933

I put my captured fags in a gay bathhouse attached to a super-heated steam vent and then take them out after they're too unhealthy to continue partying. I train my doctors learning how to fix them, and back they go. It's pretty much the same as their role in real life.

Oxygen not included is bloated.

They just add features without a care about what could actually be fun and then falls in the distorted vision of the devs where they just try to torment the player instead of doing stuff that is enjoyable.

"Oh oh, players manage to run and expand just fine? Let's add another way to impair their progress!", that's how it feels they think.

It's not like Don't Starve, where yes, the game gets harder and gets more hard shit thrown at you but it is also supplemented with new items, foodstuff etc, in ONI they just add obstacles without any reward.

>>15344669

>early access

I thought rimworld is about to hit 1.0 soon and leave early access?

>>15375933

Hating on gay colonists is so close minded. They make the best furniture

>>15381374

But if you are butchering every raider (like you should; best source of trade goods leather, meat for kibble in non-mountain bases and constant ecstasy for any cannibals) you'd already have enough human resources without butchering the voluntary medical training dummy.

>>15381362

B19 was supposed to be 1.0 but Tynan's OCD got in the way. Fuck, A12 was already at the point where he could have released it as 1.0.

>Rimworld

>Oni

>Not a game where you control a band of oni trying to survive on an alien planet

>They kidnap and milk shotas to create more of them

>>15376200

>>15375991

>>15381374

>I'm so triggered by gays existing that I torture video game avatars that are stated to be gay, because I'm far too cowardly to ever do anything about it in real life

>>15385498

Cry more, faggot. You're why I do it.

>>15385498

No need to be offended by these keyboard warriors, they're nothing but talk and are too much of a pussy IRL to actually do anything. I bet they actually stutter like a retard when just taking to a cashier, their eyes fixated on the ground, yellow teeth and purple gums trying to make the words come out of their mouth but only squeaks forming. It's sad people have to come on ther internet to fulfill their power fantasies because their regular life is so pathetic, but what can you do. Best thing to do is just ignore these troglodytes and be assured their lives are lonely, bitter, and hollow.

>>15385510

>reading comprehension

>>15385498

>>15385567

>go and kill gays in real life

Nice try FBI

>>15385498

>do anything about it in real life

>to a group of people who refuse to stop fucking shitpipes when a disease specifically native to them nearly wipes them out

>they lie and get billions in funding to come up with a shot that will let them keep fucking raw without getting grids

>the end of this world will certainly be because faggots abusing antibiotics and antivirals create a superbug and it can spread to the general population

I mean they deserve it but what do you want me to do to them anon? I can't torture them worse than they do themselves, feeling so empty that they subject themselves to indignities and miserable deaths just to feel a stranger's cock up their ass for fifteen minutes, and that emptiness creeping back in just an hour later

are there mods that add non lethal weapons and a way to de-age people?

>>15385836

>a disease specifically native to them

What? AIDS? You mean that disease that came from niggers eating monkey brains, and that numerically affect more straight people than gay? You must be thinking of something else.

>>15385567

>>15385498

>getting triggered by somebody you don't even know torturing faggots in a video game

That's next level autism.

>>15395656

What are you even trying to say, reddit? When a game goes out of its way to ensure a spread of races it is promoting diversity.

>>15395746

The worst part of dealing with marxists is that one starts to become extremized in the opposite direction. Having people of other races doesn't necessarily imply a leftist agenda.

While I dislike the Calarts art direction and diversity shit of Oxygen Not Included it puts Rimworld to shame with how much they've added to it in a much shorter time span.

>>15395894

It does, however, when the race has no meaning within the game.

Why add niggers?

Because of a leftist agenda.

If each race had modifiers then maybe the different races could be warranted, adding actual diversity between characters.

But that's not the case, all the races have the same stats and are virtually the same because "lol one race the human race".

This is way worse in ONI than Rim, as ONI also has that gay tumblr look.

>>15395992

You'd only accept races other than Caucasian in a game if it has gameplay consequences? You speak madness. It's just race, dude.

>>15396234

>>15395992

>>15396269

> You'd only accept races other than Caucasian in a game if it has gameplay consequences?

is this the state of retardation in our youth?

> Why add niggers?

why add whites then? what exactly is being done that a difference in skin color would be significantly limiting?

and furthermore, what fucking corner of the world are you in that you're able to remain racially secluded?

>>15396423

I cannot tell which side of the argument you're in.

I'll say this: I understand the over-sensitization to anything that's different to the standard as a result of years of putting up with the "progressive" insanity, but if one becomes rejectful of anything that isn't unreasonable (like the simple portrayal of different races) one is playing the same identity extremism of the left and becoming a mirror of the same monster. You cannot let them make you the hateful bigot they claim you are.

>>15395894

I guess if you're not smart and redpilled enough to be a Marxist, you can whine about it.

>>15396590

I make all my colonists cannibals and I eat bad people.

>>15353910

Is this guy the last survivor trapped in a room with monsters outside?

>>15396423

>what fucking corner of the world are you in that you're able to remain racially secluded?

He lives half of the time in his mother's basement, population: only him, and the other half in /pol/.

>>15396510

>Implying that racists are only racist because the libs "claim" they are

That's a cute one.