/v/ - Video Games

>>15338962

kys bootlicker

Literally just a Japanese Nioh ripoff

>>15338952

Getting some Soulsbourne, Tenchu, Onimusha and Nioh vibes. Just waiting for more of the Vertical Traversal to show itself and how enemies will use it against you.

>>15338997

I think seeing how enemies deal with your abilities is going to be the deal breaker for how interesting the game plays. Once that dynamic comes into play and you can't just grapple away to safety I feel like the whole thing would come together.

oh lord they're ripping off fucking nioh of all things except miyazaki's incompetence will guarantee this game'll suck shit and only soulstards will buy it, ghost of sushi looks better

>>15339014

It seems abusable, but still waiting on the enemy types that also use vertical movement, just imagine Wheel-Skelly, but can Sonic-Roll Jump.

>>15338952

So instead of a stamina meter it has an exhaustion meter. That's interesting.

Also if this supposedly has no leveling system them why are you still collecting souls?

>>15339073

My guess would be that it'll be like devil may cry or something.

>>15339073

>Also if this supposedly has no leveling system them why are you still collecting souls?

The white cross things? They're apparently "ammo" to use for your arm abilities.

>>15339063

I don't mind Nioh's loot system but they over did it a bit. They need to dial it back some. More importantly they need to give generic equipment an actual purpose before NG+3.

>PvP

Nioh has PvP though.

>>15339124

>ninja gaiden

>onimusha

>nioh

>no mention of shinobi

faggot

I played the demo a few hours ago and it was incredibly fun. The combat is a lot more fast paced and combined with the execution moves I definitely felt some Ninja Gaiden 2 vibes, which is great since NG2 is by far one of the best action games ever made. The jump also seems to have a lot of utility in combat when it comes to positioning yourself.

Enemies hit hard and the dodge window is quite small, during the boss fight it was crucial to dash in the right direction, you couldn't rely on i-frames alone. I haven't figured out how this new gauge works exactly but if enemies drain too much of it you die very quickly, it seemed to be more punishing than stamina was in Souls but on the other hand it applies to enemies as well, similar to the ki in Nioh.

Your basic R1 combo is an infinite chain, there are some special attacks you can do while blocking and you can combo the axe into normal attacks, so there's overall a lot more going on but the 10 minutes I had there wasn't nearly enough time to figure all of it out. Despite the faster speed the animations still feel very powerful and the overall feeling of the controls is great, it's even more smooth and fluid than Bloodborne.

I'll be visiting gamescom another time this week so I'll make sure to replay the demo, so far it seems like exactly the game I want it to be.

>>15339115

So basically quicksilver bullets then?

>>15339140

Yeah basically, but it seems like you will always get them from enemy deaths instead of a chance of getting them. This isn't also counting how it appears that sometimes enemies also have loot along with the ammo. Sadly I have yet to see a video where someone actually picks up loot off of a corpse.

>>15339118

>>15339063

Nioh looty system is the entire reason to play it though

>>15339147

I'm still on the fence as to whether Nioh's lack of integrated PvP is a good thing or a bad thing. Souls PvP brings a lot of fun to the games but it also brings a lot of autism.

>>15339178

The loot system is fine early in the game but once you start trying to ascend your weapon's "+ level" it becomes a wee bit annoying.

>>15339229

>but you also have to inspect the majority of them before selling just for the off-chance that they have that they possess one of the few stats you wish in an inheritable slot

<but you also have to inspect the majority of them before selling just for the off-chance that they possess one of the few stats you wish for in an inheritable slot.

Woops

>>15339229

Have you never played a looty tooty kill for booty game before? Not even diablo?

>>15339278

I'm not completely against the whole idea of RNG stats on weapons and armor, but it's literally the worst iteration of such a system that I've ever touched.

Read my post and explain to me the advantages and its purpose in the way it's implemented in Nioh.

>>15339073

So does that mean you can get creative with the combat system? One of the things I dislike about the Souls games is how it forces you to hold back your attacks and go on the defensive rather than have the AI punish you.

>>15339397

Just to add some more to the game. Maybe a boss will be entirely stealth based? Something new for an action game if it did.

>>15339063

The looting-system only becomes a real useable thing until after NG+. Never had to grind for gear in the base game.

>>15339397

It seems like some tenchu remake more than a souls like.

>>15339391

>implying

You can go for that play style in dark souls if you just level up vit and run through the game with the best armor you can while fat rolling. Or at least you could do that before they fucked up poise and made stamina unlimited for casuals.

>>15339698

>The looting-system only becomes a real useable thing until after NG+. Never had to grind for gear in the base game.

I'm not even sure of what you're saying. Yeah the system is acceptable in NG but once you get to NG+ and further it becomes increasingly more cancer with the amount of trash you get while trying to improve your gear and how much time you need to spend on inventory management.

And playing NG+ and further is part of the full gaming experience and not simply an "addition" or meant for the most dedicated players. They add an entirely new rarity tier as well as changing up the missions all while you get an endless style dungeon which purpose is to be the true endgame.

I

Jesus Christ all of the hate for souls in this fucking thread. What the fuck happened to this place?

>>15339912

Summer's ending.

Are we going to get equipment other than arm upgrades? I want to run around with kawari kabutos and shit.

>>15339956

>With a whip instead of a grappling hook.

Im all in for more dark soulsvania.

>>15339912

Yeah I don't know why people liked souls in the first place. It's a meme normalfag game to the point where it's become a normalfag facebook meme. Literally why? Dark souls was never good, it was always just overhyped japanese wrpg.

>>15338952

Game looks solid, but hopefully there's a larger variety of weapons and enemy types than what is showcased here.

>>15341611

ベイとでしょ

>>15338978

I'll bite for Reddit points :)

>>15339129

Shinobi 3D gets boring.

>>15339890

>the system is acceptable in NG

It's not acceptable in NG, it's nonexistent. You can almost completely ignore the equipment system in NG because you're constantly picking up better stuff from the ground. You only need to get into the reforging, soul matching, inheritance stuff once divines start showing up, and that's the real meat of the equipment mechanics.

>>15338952

>soulshit

Are you retarded? You do know that using words like that make you seem like even more of a tool than you already are, right?

kys before you spoil the genepool even more than you already have

I'd rather wait for the new VaatiMcVidya™ analysis, so I know what to think about all this :^)

>>15341776

>implying it's not the same foundation

fortunately I don't have to worry about you polluting the genepool.

>>15339912

I don't hate it, I'm just bored of it

>>15341735

you're boring

>>15341873

typos happen nigger

>>15341939

>typo

Just admit it, you didn't even know the difference between the hiragana and katakana characters of "to" since you just copy pasted it from some translator. And that on top of trying to defend soulshit. Fucking dishonest faggot.

Hmm… just as I thought. Typical milquetoast Activision tripe watered down and simplified for the Ubisoft audience. Lots of "press X to autorun and kill enemies" going on here. Just look at that Assassin's Creed movement and no skill instakills. They really are going all out to strip the Soulsborne games of any uniqueness or challenge. This is basically Shadow of Souls: Origins complete with POI markers. How sad that Fromsoft - once the master and creator of the Soulsborne series - is now being humbled by much more innovative and true to form games such as The Surge 2.

Miyazaki should just shutter Sekiro right now and start as an underling at Deck13 making teas and coffees for the team until he learns how the big dogs do things. Maybe in a few years he can progress to something simple like code clean-up. Anyways, have some real gameplay from an actually promising game for us true gamer bros.

Dunno, I'll buy the game or pirate it if it has Denuvo but it felt a bit disappointing when the vid starts and you see the huge green grappling points. And yeah, stealth is barely there, posture system looks nice but the stagger bar not getting low as soon as you stop attacking is just weird. Overall gameplay is just Bloodborne with all the fat trimmed, maybe too much actually. I get that different dickbeater gives you more moves for the sword but it's still not much compared to all the weapons and their transformations in BB.

>>15342020

get some better bait or get an actual hobby that you care about nigger also stop hopping IDs you cum gargling homo

>>15342054

isn't the surge shit though?

>>15342083

maybe there will be a larger variety of weapons, but I do agree that the stealth seems somewhat forced, and the contextual action prompts don't bode well for freedom of movement with the grappling hook. still, hopefully at least there will be some satisfying boss battles.

>>15342098

>isn't the surge shit though?

Yes, it's pretty awful. Don't listen to anyone who praises it.

>>15342098

>still, hopefully at least there will be some satisfying boss battles.

That depends on what you consider satisfying. They'll probably be, again, like BB, very motor skill-based and not like older souls titles that relied on interesting gimmicks rather than pattern-learning and timing i-frames. But again, the theme for Sekiro is apparently to "kill cleverly".

>soulshit

Its cool to hate popular things.

>>15342169

>core gameplay is a slow repetitive hack'n'slash that punishes the player by wasting his time with annoying runbacks that don't require skill. Oh, and the story is nonexistent to the point that the community had fanfic it themselves.

I still wouldn't call them shit because of how fun the exploration and multiplayer is. Most souls games work kind of like a good shot at 3D Castlevania.

>>15342165

>They'll probably be, again, like BB, very motor skill-based and not like older souls titles that relied on interesting gimmicks rather than pattern-learning and timing i-frames.

You might fights like Dragon God, Fool's Idol, and Bed of Chaos? I don't mind those fights per se, but I hope they don't become the norm as opposed to one or two special bosses, because the bosses that involve pattern-learning and timing i-frames are more appealing, although I won't lie about them being quite repetitive.

>>15342211

Something like Fool's Idol, Maiden Astrea, Old Hero, Old Monk. Actually most of the Demon's bossfights were gimmicky. Dks has Taurus demon, Ceaseless discharge, Moonlight butterfly, Seath, Gwyndolyn, 4 Kings and the others too probably.

The idea was more to find the right tool or a trick to beat the boss, rather than dodge or dash through all attacks.

>>15342098

>isn't the surge shit though?

It was rough at launch, but a patch fixed some numerical issues and the Walk in the Park DLC is leaps and bounds better than anything in the base game. The few mechanical changes visible in >>15342054 show a promising new direction for the game.

>combat is literally over twice as fast

>enemies take proper hitstun from heavy attacks

>bosses can just be stumbled upon rather than being locked to the 5 in the previous game, which implies both more bosses and less rigamarole to get to them

Considering how much the devs improved from Lords of the Fallen to The Surge, and how much they improved from that to A Walk in the Park, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Absolute Tenchu

>>15343010

The Chikage already existed.

>>15343003

You do, since you don't fucking report and hide.

>>15343798

I like JARPGs so I'm fine with that.

>>15343833

While souls series is certainly japanese, there is no role playing in it.

Or rocket launchers.

>>15344312

>forgot to take off my flag

fug

>>15342490

This. DLC and patches improved an already stellar game and A Walk In The Park was easily as memorable as the crowns trilogy from DKS2.

>bosses can just be stumbled upon

That was just a mini-boss, they are focusing on unique encounters like that in The Surge 2.

>>15338952

I'm actually pretty disappointed by this. I know it was always just going to be Dark Souls, but I really want something that hits the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon vibes. Great fucking movie.

>15344316

>>>/cuckchan/

>that blonde haired giant

Is that like an ancient Japanese conception of a European, or something?

>>15345955

They did trade with kankerfags. Deepest lore confirmed

>>15338952

I can appreciate FromSoft making a streamlined game from the foundation of Souls games, but this seems too streamlined. If customizing your combat style is limited to new sub-weapons, then the combat is going to get tedious after a while. I'm hoping there's going to be multiple main weapons with unique movesets, or at least weapons that suit different approaches to enemies.

As a side note, is anyone else disappointed that posture is just a Street Fighter stun meter?

>>15339912

It's been that way since 2016 at the very least. Maybe you haven't looked at many Souls threads, but most people shit on Dark while some enjoy Demon's. I'm not against DaS, but this sentiment isn't a new one.

>>15344389

That's chinese confucian and taoist martial arts though.

>>15345955

It said he was an ogre, which is a western monster. Maybe they imported ogres from the west?

>>15344389

Nioh/Dark Souls done ancient chink-esque style would be amazing because of the shear variety of kung fu weapons. That's one of the unfortunate thing that "held Nioh bsck", so to speak. It's not even something that they could have remedied since they were constrained to an actual real life time and place.

Still there was no excuse for not having kanabo, naginata, bo, or khakkhara though. Or those Saika 6 shooters.