/v/ - Video Games

>using SwapMagic instead of FMCB

Its alright, the first one has some pretty fun combat but halfway through you've seen basically all the transumatations.

The boss fights especially the final one are well done though.

I've never player the other ones.

>>15319524

PS2 was so big there were an abundance of Eastern games based on Anime released in the west.

>>15319524

>FMA must have been really popular.

Are you underaged or something? It was practically the lynchpin of Adult Swim's anime block for a good couple of years, especially after Toonami keeled over.

>I know anime games are almost always coming out in the West now but back then that was rare

Please, there were more anime games releasing back in the 6th gen than there are now. The PS2 having a huge install base in the east and west helped this but each console got a large library of anime based titles. Nearly every anime that had some sort of western release had their video games brought over too.

>>15319807

>Are you underaged or something?

That was a long time ago, he could be 18+ and not know how popular it was.

>>15319232

I've heard the second was better than the first, and the third better than the second (but it's not in English), and aren't adaptations either at that. Can't say I've actually played them myself though, so take that as you will.

>Considering a swap magic.

Are you stuck with a slim PS2 or something? FreeMcBoot and/or a modded IDE drive would probably be better long term, especially since you wouldn't be putting additional wear on the motor (given that you have to always swap the disc on boot up with the swap magic method). And physically, the games are pretty cheap where I live if you were to have to go that route, but if you live in PAL or something I can see why you'd be looking for ways around region lock, since no one bothered to bring them there.

>>15319524

Guessing you're a moon-anon or something, if you're that unaware. Fullmetal Alchemist has been pretty fucking popular out here ever since the 2003 version started airing on AdultSwim, if not the manga being brought over/scanlated. We got two PS2 ARPGs here, and a pair of DS ones (a sidescrolling brawler and a card fighter) as well.

>Probably English dub only so the answer to the question would be: no.

Checking Dual Audio wiki, they are indeed not listed as having it (did Square even take risks like that until seventh gen or so? They apparently didn't even bother to license the JP dub on the bonus anime disc the second PS2 FMA game came here with). I'll admit it's been a while since I bothered hearing the dubwork for FMA (and with brotherhood I watched it with fansubs when that was current), but considering the western style setting of Amestris, English would fit fairly well. That doesn't speak to the voicing or directional quality of the dub though, and it wouldn't shock me if they couldn't get various English VAs from the 2003 anime for either game (or if the directional quality was different).

>>15320808

Why though? Because all I saw was Brotherhood many years ago.

>>15320808

Brotherhood is superior because it actually follows the manga instead of being fanfiction.

>>15320834

Some prefer the darker tone the original anime headed down (with Arakawa's approval) once it caught up to the manga. Personally I prefer canon over not whenever possible, but both are considered pretty good in their own right. Though I don't know how many people out there actually like the twist in 2003 that alchemy is fueled by souls from our world, and the movie for that continuity being about a Nazi invasion.

>>15320886

Man I hated that twist and thought it was retarded, though Brotherhood's explanation of alchemy being powered by plate tectonics isn't much better.

Maybe it's because I watched Brotherhood first but I much preferred it overall, but the original series was nice because of how much extra manga content there was in the beginning

>>15320966

I thought the Diamond is not Crash movie sucked too

>>15320907

True, the earlier parts are adapted better, likely because Bones got told that content the audience had already seen might bore them as a re-adaptation (even if it's been years), but couldn't avoid adapting it in some form for newcomers, hence it feeling abridged compared to the newly adapted content after it. Seen some out there say the best way to watch is 2003 up to where it deviates, and then Brotherhood from the equivalent point.

>>15320966

>Also JPLAMs never turn out good unless it's Jojo

I could swear I'd heard pretty good stuff about the Gyakuten Saiban movie as well, but I've not seen it myself.

The original anime followed the manga perfectly until it didn't. I loved the goofy state alchemist adventure grunt work Edward and Al did at the beginning of the manga brotherhood completely cut it out, and the soundtrack was way worse than the 2003 anime.

>>15321086

>The original anime followed the manga perfectly until it didn't.

That is the issue with adaptations, in that most are at best done to capitalize on the original work's popularity while it's still somewhat new, or at worst, simply meant to act as advertisement for the original work. And once they catch up, there's a number of options, none of which especially appealing:

>Filler hell while waiting for enough new content to adapt (big name shonen being pretty awful about such, Bleach especially with whole seasons).

>Deliberate deviation from the source material, be it with or without the creator's approval (like FMA 2003).

>Years of hiatus to avoid filler hell, resulting in a show with only a handful of "seasons" of content taking the better part of a decade, if not longer, to properly adapt (like Index having seven years between season 2 and the upcoming season 3). Though it should be said that in the long run, this can be better for those watching in the future once the adaptation has finished.

Also a few issues stemming less from being shilling and more from seasonals and funding.

>Sudden ending to adaptation that fucks the pacing because it hit 12/13/24/26 episode limit (depends on how the length of a "season" is considered). Better go read the source if you want to see how things actually worked out.

>Adaptations that just end abruptly with no conclusion, be it licensing withdrawn, funding being pulled, budget running out, etc (like Flame of Recca).

Part of why I'm much more prone to anime original series, or at least adaptations started closer to the original work being completed. Setting can also factor in: something like Kino's Journey, where there isn't even an end goal and the weight is in what is shown along the way, worked well even as an incomplete adaptation.

Nigger, get a memory card preinstalled with Free Mcboot instead, they're about 10 bucks on ebay.

Fun but short as fuck and no replay value. It also ends leaving you wanting more in a bad way.

>>15319807

>being American

We didn't even have Naruto here. Well not legally anyway. God how did we live without internet?

>>15321235

Yeah anime are basically advertising for the manga/books/games.

>>15320834

Brotherhood is infinitely better, don't listen to contr/a/rian cocksuckers.

>>15323760

I wish Ed fucked Rose, though.

My brother teased me with that for years after seeing this cool AMV I didn't understand and then I found out she got fucking raped and had a baby then brainwashed and nearly body jacked by the antagonist to fuck him before Ed got literally killed then sent to real world Germany to fight Nazis and dragon Envy. The world needed Brotherhood, Greedling, Scar's redemption and fight against Bradley, Mustang's revenge and Ed more than earning an 11/10 big titted, feminine long haired tomboy, gearhead, childhood friend waifu like Winry.

I loved Curse of the Crimson Elixer overall and would absolutely eat up competently, but lovingly made Brotherhood game, action or action RPG.

>>15323760

I enjoyed the Homunculi more in the 2003 anime. Not to mention that I enjoyed the character of Havoc and didn’t like him being sidelined early in Brotherhood. Call the original anime filler all you want, it’s still the best damned filler I’ve ever seen.

Brotherhood does have one thing 2003 doesn’t, that’s Armstrong’s sister and her DSL’s

>>15321400

I had fun with it.

I got it for two bucks at a yard sale though, but if you can get it for the low low price of free then go right ahead.

>>15324176

Could Winry be the ultimate Best Girl? I never really looked at her that way because she just always seemed like, "one of the guys."

>>15324272

There is potential.

>>15319232

I only played halfway through the first one. Its pretty repetitive and the rpg mechanics leave much to be desired. Overall, I'd say its a decent game only if you really like the series and would like to see more of it. Otherwise, pretty meh game one should avoid

>ps2 games

>after all of the ROM sites have been taken down by the altaic semites

I should have seen it coming yet was blinded by my ignorance.

>>15329757

You people sound like bots.

>>15329757

I was trying to sound like a melodramatic anime character, but robots are cool enough.

>>15329825

You just sound dumb.

>>15329757

wheres the equivalancy in downloading a game off a rom site?

>>15320808

Only thing I really liked about 2003 was the historical crossover bit from the film. That was just super neat to me and I love history.

>>15319232

>swapmagic

Get with the times.

>>15319845

> he could be 18+ and not know how popular it was.

Anyone born during the late eighties to the early nineties would be preteens and teenagers by the time FMA would come out; anyone born in the mid nineties would be roughly teens to preteens when Brotherhood came out. You would have to be born close to when FMA is released to not know about it at all cause you're at an age where you don't give a shit about cable and not too poor to get vidya and internet instead.

>>15320808

The first series did much better at setting up the story at least. Other than that I liked both series about the same for different reasons. (I actually showed both shows to my mother a couple years back. She loves the first series more solely because of Maes Hughes and his greater screentime.) She was devastated when that episode with Envy came up.

>>15331426

haha your mom had a husbando

>>15331426

>>15331434

That's actually pretty cute, but it doesn't surprise me. Both my parents and their friends had posters of celebrity crushes in high school. I wonder if the shut-ins of those decades dedicated themselves to their crushes like people do today with their waifus.

>>15329838

Anime perfected

>>15320834

Because Arakawa is a pussy and was afraid to make things too dark or negative, so had a habit of inserting scenes of comedy (and typical anime-isms like character falling onto their heads, turning into chibis, having exaggerated facial expressions) immediately following all serious scenes. It just kills the mood and demolishes all suspension of disbelief. Brotherhood in general was more "cartoony" and tame than the first anime.

I will admit that Greedling and Bradley were far superior characters to their 2003 counterparts, but that's about it. 2003 Wrath made a better dramatic kid-homunculus than manga-Pride, because he was ACTUALLY A KID, rather than just an eldritch horror pretending to be one. And even though it was kinda bullshit, the whole homunculi being the product of human transmutation thing was a lot more poignant than them being a God Complex character's quirky miniboss squad.

But the number one reason I preferred it is an odd one, and that's Mustang and his flame alchemy. See, in the manga it's a secret ancient art that only he knows about, and that's why he's so good: only he can perform Flame Alchemy. The 2003 anime doesn't have that. Instead, it's implied that anyone can make alchemical flames if they so choose, but they don't because it wouldn't be very effective. But Mustang does, and in fact is JUST THAT GOOD because he's such an incredible badass. That's the difference: 2003 Mustang is powerful because he's a badass; manga Mustang is powerful because he just knows a secret. It severely devalues his character.

Sage because this isn't /a/ (not that they would ever be interested in discussing it — too old and not enough lolis in it).

>>15332122

>Because Arakawa is a pussy and was afraid to make things too dark or negative, so had a habit of inserting scenes of comedy

That was an issue I had with Brotherhood as well. Humor is fine, but the way some comedic situations were handled in Brotherhood didn't seem to fit the scene very well. For example, look at the scene where Scar destroys Al's armor and nearly kills Ed. In both series after the fight, Al reminds Ed that if he dies their journey ends and neither one of them will get their bodies back. It's supposed to be a serious character building moment, but in Brotherhood it has unnecessary slapstick chibi moments. It kills the impact of the dialogue they were having, and the slapstick doesn't even make the scene funny. I don't recall 2003 ever forcing out of place humor in dark or serious scenes.

I've never read the manga, so I'll be generous and assume some of the weird comedic scenes in Brotherhood were better presented in still manga frames vs animation.

>not that they would ever be interested in discussing it

I mentioned this exact issue on /a/ (or /animu/?) a few months back, but you're not wrong. It's not like there's much to discuss about the show anymore anyway.

>>15329757

You know you can still pirate right?

>>15332193

There's always more to discuss if you're willing to do more than talk about which waifu you want to fuck; but unfortunately it would just devolve into a war over which version of the anime is better. Same with every potential discussion about which version of HunterXHunter is better (when it's not people just bitching about the manga hiatuses anyway).

>>15353382

That episode was fucking hilarious. Also did a good job illustrating how Edward's moralfaggotry was completely bunk, and only going to hurt him in the end.