942e35 No.15288783
Pete Hines explains why Bethesda blocked resale of a sealed copy of The Evil Within 2
Bethesda's legal firm, Vorys, recently sent a letter to one Ryan Hupp, telling him that his listing of a sealed copy of The Evil Within 2 on the Amazon Marketplace was "unlawful" and he would have to remove it or face legal action.
https://archive.fo/9Ui70
>Hines explained that the issue was not that Hupp was selling their game second-hand, but specifically that he listed it as 'new'. "All we're saying is if it's a previously owned product, you have to sell it as a previously owned product", he told Eurogamer.
>"You could have opened it up," he went on to explain, "played it for five hours, taken whatever inserts or stuff was in there, put it back in shrink wrap and said, 'Hey this is new.' It's not new - you owned it, you bought it, so just list it as a used title. That's it, that's the end of the argument."
Yeah fukken right…
041bd0 No.15288792
Hines is an asshole and needs to be physically assaulted by antifa for his stupid FUCK NAZI shit at e3
76fdce No.15288802
>>15288783
It's like an argument you'd see on /v/ about semantics sprouted to life and somehow got access to lawyers. I still find it absolutely absurd that this actually happened and I'm not just being trolled.
fd9698 No.15288804
>we have your best interests at heart goy!
Bethesda is really working overtime to steal EA's top spot as asshole of the industry.
713ed0 No.15288810
>>15288802
Law is nothing but semantics.
edc102 No.15288812
>>15288783
And yet meanwhile over at Fucking Gamestop they have no problem trying to sell gutted, store-bicycle copies of shit as "new". Also (at least in the past) an apparent perk that employees could borrow games to try out, which inevitably ends up with tales of people buying "new" cartridge based games, only to find an existing save file because some employee couldn't wait for a preowned copy to show up and didn't cover his tracks (obviously discs have less to show for it by virtue of saving requiring off-disc memory).
>he would have to remove it or face legal action.
Issue becomes whether Hupp has the money/commitment to fight for his right to sell an unopened game as new (really, I'd say the case would be clear in his favor if defined as "unopened, unplayed"), and how much Hines can drop on trying to push this shit. Point being that if allowed to get away with it could set a precedent, be it good or ill. I mean, fuck people that are just buying sealed games to resell, but at the same time someone should be able to sell their own damn property, and in as accurate a condition as need be. Feels like a case where Bethesda expects opposition to not be deemed worth the investment.
54f835 No.15288816
>>15288792
>Pete Hines
>Assaulted by antifa
>For saying fuck nazis
111e14 No.15288822
>>15288816
Antifa are flailing retards, they might do it.
fd9698 No.15288824
>>15288822
Unlikely. The chances those retards would do humanity a favor, even by accident, are close to nil.
540e54 No.15288827
I'm honestly suprised there's laws against calling something you're re-selling "new" since it's a pretty vague description. It could be used to describe the games age or that it's the latest game in the series.
I'm glad I've never bought a Bethesda game.
88fc80 No.15288828
>>15288783
That's the dude who doesn't know the difference between a mod and hacking, right?
fd9698 No.15288830
>>15288828
Yes, he's the pet inbred that thinks reading a few lines of text is hard.
c75f3b No.15288833
b4b17f No.15288836
4fdc5e No.15288837
>>15288783
Jesus christ, even Todd is better at lying than this piece of shit.
260ce9 No.15288843
>>15288837
pete has been really outdoing himself lately, is there any corporate face who is more disliked at this point?
4b8e3c No.15288846
>>15288783
>You could have opened it up
Doesn't mean he did
c6efdf No.15288847
>>15288810
Fuck your talmudic bullshit, moishe.
942e35 No.15288850
in the real world
>call up Bethesda
>"I bought this game as new but there's shit missing"
<"ok where did you buy it?"
>"Amazon from a guy named Ryan"
<"Not an official retailer, not our problem byeeee"
88fc80 No.15288873
>>15288850
>pay with creditcard
>chargeback
Besides I think if you're selling trough Amazon you they'll get on your ass should your product be not complete.
e0f46d No.15288881
>>15288873
That's Amazon's pejorative though and they have a duty to take care of it under the grounds of customer protection, not Bethesda. Bethesda shouldn't have any legal right at all to interfere in the second-hand sale of ANY product, no matter who the fuck published it. Last time I checked Bethesda wasn't the fucking marketplace. Amazon should tell them to piss the fuck off, it's Amazon's marketplace.
f260f5 No.15288883
>>15288850
That's not how the world works. You deal with the place you bought the shit from.
a0187d No.15288890
>>15288810
Now you're thinkig like a lawyer!
e0f46d No.15288891
>>15288850
In the real world
>sell a new sealed game on Amazon
>Bethesda blocks your sale and tries to say you tampered with the contents of the box
>counter-sue them for slander
e567e3 No.15288905
>>15288812
>Feels like a case where Bethesda expects opposition to not be deemed worth the investment.
It's such a retarded case, too. How do they benefit from bullying some random guy who tried to sell his game on amazon?
They look like right cunts doing it, there's no fucking profit in it, and it's all over a semantic non-issue.
Pete Hines has to have literal, actual autism to think he should stick his nose anywhere in this.
9a5d7c No.15288906
Looking into this, Bethesda's reasoning is that the game didn't come with a warranty, thus it can't be sold as new. That has to be the dumbest stipulation, let alone why Bethesda would even fucking care or have any kind of legal right to harass someone like that.
cfe951 No.15288917
Would be sad day I'm no longer able to rub my dick on my shitty games before reselling them as "new". Does anybody have that pic of the anon who would do this? I lost my folder some time ago and can't find it anywhere.
d7bdb1 No.15288922
>>15288816
How mang pantyfags do you think Pete would take down before they overwhelmed him?
4da88f No.15288929
>>15288922
Two, because even a child could take a couple down.
735249 No.15288945
>(((gamestop))) allowed to sell games removed from packaging as new
>Ryan Hupp not allowed to sell games still in their packaging as new
really makes me think
942e35 No.15288964
>>15288883
Did you even read the fucking article? His entire reasoning is that if someone buys a game "new" secondhand but find that there's bits missing then it's Bethesda who have to make it right, which is bullshit because Bethesda would only have a responsibility for sales through the game's official retailers
e0f46d No.15288968
>>15288964
This is all too stupid to be an isolated incident. It feels like there's something else going on here. Like Bethesda is trying to set a legal precedent for something before enacting their master plan, and just targeted some literal who nobody that they couldn't possibly lose a legal battle with to get the precedent made.
fd9698 No.15288969
>>15288964
Hines isn't what you'd call bright.
4e74d6 No.15288973
>>15288905
The goal, clearly, is to try and prevent "unauthorized" sources from selling a game as "new" by setting a precident. I assume because they don't want to lose sales numbers from people who would otherwise be interested in a 'new' copy of the game. Only that's retarded and the way they just went about trying to do it is also retarded.
bea92a No.15288979
>>15288783
Bullshit, like most of what Hines spouts. No one is paying a lawyer's time to make sure some literal nobody is "doing the right thing."
edc102 No.15288982
>>15288973
And such a ruling only benefits them as long as they're still making new copies, but I suppose that's the duration that matters. Granted, games are meant to be played, and fuck scalpers and VGA graders and shit, but still, if someone has a sealed copy of something that's never been used, they should be able to sell it under new. Or do they expect Amazon and Ebay and whoever else to make a new category of "preowned but sealed" just to serve them?
>>15288945
>(((gamestop))) allowed to sell games removed from packaging as new
And then there's also the opposite where they'll gut occasional sealed reprint runs they get sent because they stand to make more profit at preowned prices than standard "new". Looking at what happened initially with Xenoblade Wii's reprint, they stood to make a good $40 per copy, possibly more depending on how much Nintendo charged them in turn, in profit straight to them in marking them as preowned at $90.
5ad292 No.15288994
>>15288783
>"We don't make any shekels from second hand resales, so we say they're illegal :^)"
Haven't seen anything this jewish in a while
2701ca No.15288998
>>15288973
>>15288905
There is no goal in this. Bethesda is just arrogant and loves pushing people around who can't fight back.
6ffc40 No.15289003
Demand used-game prices from retailers on 'new' copies. They aren't the original owners either.
0dbd30 No.15289009
Somewhere Todd is looking at his phone watching this guy pour more gas on fire months before their next big release and whispering "shut up, fucking shut your fat fucking mouth, you are ruining this for everyone" as he watches the train wreck.
45864f No.15289017
>>15289009
You're talking about the guy who hired his college buddy who'd dropped out of his animation course to be Bethesda's lead animator.
111e14 No.15289021
>>15288828
This is made better by the fact that Pete once made a Morrowind mod shortly after it was released that was absolute dogshit and ridden with GMSTs.
e0f46d No.15289022
>>15289017
I never got the impression that Hines and Howard were actually friends. Pete Hines seems like the kind of douchebag that would have bullied Todd Howard in high school for being a nerd.
fd9698 No.15289023
>>15289017
Isn't the head writer also a buddy of the Toddler?
faa639 No.15289027
>>15288843
He's the Yin to Todd's Yang.
45864f No.15289035
>>15289021
You've gotta link the mod, anon. I want to see that man's unfiltered creative output.
b1fd95 No.15289048
>>15288783
>put it back in the shrink wrap
that shit tears so fucking easy idk who would bother to take it out if they planned to resell as new.
bef56e No.15289050
>>15289003
This is quite frequently actually the case.
At EB games they used to keep cases and discs separate and with their return policy, they would often sell the same game that someone bought and returned as brand new.
e0f46d No.15289052
>>15289048
Obviously they have their own shrinkwrap machine to re-wrap the box after they pilfered all of the contents inside.
0a564f No.15289055
>>15289048
You don't put it in the original shrink wrap, you put a new one on it. There are people that do this all the time sadly. Though I guess if someone was really careful they could reseal the original. Some people do that with trading cards. They open packs, take out the good cards, then reseal the pack and sell it on Amazon/ ebay.
548f53 No.15289056
>>15288873
>>15288850
>Buying used things online
>With your credit card
You only got yourself to blame if you get ripped off.
548f53 No.15289062
>>15289017
You're talking about the guy who got into the company by basically begging for a job and got put on customer helpline or something because they felt bad for the fella.
942e35 No.15289067
>>15289052
>machine
Lad all you need is a soldering iron or a heated knife to seal it and a hairdryer to shrink it
111e14 No.15289069
>>15289035
I'm actually a gigantic faggot and rape my face and etc. because it was Gary Noonan/Wormgod and not this nigger but to be fair they're all interchangeable as fuck individuals over at Bethesda. It was still a shit mod, my apologies for getting your hopes up in my inaccurate memory of browsing Summit eternity ago.
9a5d7c No.15289089
>>15289055
Even so, that is strictly between the buyer and the seller and often the platform that was used. Bethesda is way out of bounds here.
6a3b03 No.15289091
>>15288783
I'll be shocked if they don't throw this idiot out of the company soon.
5ad292 No.15289147
>>15289091
>expecting Bethesda to do something good for once
6a3b03 No.15289164
>>15289147
If he keeps fucking up PR they'll have no choice.
b0c172 No.15289180
>>15288783
>put it back in shrink wrap
srsly?
942e35 No.15289193
>>15289180
It does happen all the time to be fair
88fc80 No.15289194
>>15288968
If they push it trough they could sue everyone who buy a copy of their game and sells it trough ebay for example.
Why they would want to do that, I don't know or can imagine.
5ad292 No.15289208
>>15289194
by making reselling more difficult, more people will buy the game straight from them or official retailers.
ea42ae No.15289225
>have a for profit legal system insuring laws are totally irrelevant as long as one party has more financial resources than the other
What a wonderful shithole we live in.
111e14 No.15289227
>>15289208
A first step on the path to eventually make it only possible to buy Bethesda games by pre-ordering them, before finally making it illegal to not pre-order them. Eventually you will be fined millions of dollars for not having pre-ordered the $300 gameless collector's edition of Skyrim 4.
fdb1fb No.15289231
>>15289164
>implying normgroids care about PR
He could slit in each and every one of their faces and they'd stand there with their mouths open.
6a3b03 No.15289236
>>15289231
>He could slit in each and every one of their faces
Hines is a cuntboy?
5ad292 No.15289241
>>15289236
I think he's just a cunt
fdb1fb No.15289244
5fa41a No.15289251
>>15289227
>every single girl in that pic is hunched over because todd is such a fucking manlet
Embarrassing.
54f835 No.15289256
>>15289251
At least he gets more pussy than you, Pete.
497bc5 No.15289259
>>15289251
They're leaning towards him to catch his musky, testosterone manly scents
846cd0 No.15289276
>>15288783
The only kike that surpasses (((Pete Hines))) in terms of jewish evilness is his boss, (((Robert A. Altman))). You have to be a special type of yid to be banned from (((banking))).
3f19ef No.15289285
Then why can retailers sell it as new even though it was previously owned by the factory until they signed the shipping manifest?
111e14 No.15289310
>>15289251
He's so committed to making the player experience fun that he himself is fun sized. You WILL buy it.
b0f71b No.15289339
His logic is wonky. I would get it if he had some kind of "proof" but he brings up a possible scenario that may or may not be true. Besides, those who would buy a sealed copy of something, unless it's for an unboxing video or first week on sale, would never open the box to find out because that would devalue it. The sealed copy is the shrodinger's cat of sales items. Is the item in the box untouched or tampered with? Unless you use some sort of x-ray, who knows what is going on inside that box. Shrodinger's cat could be fucking your sealed copy of The Evil Within 2 through dimensional space and it wouldn't really matter. The sealed copy's value is not what is inside necessarily but by its outward appearance.
fd9698 No.15289370
>>15289276
Wait, Hines is a Semite? That would explain so much about his behavior.
3f19ef No.15289382
>>15289370
Pointing out that someone is Jewish is antisemitism, goy!
e10017 No.15291520
>Bethesda orders removal of second hand games
>Bethesda contacted second hand seller selling a preowned game as "new" because it couldn't be verified as new
7d581f No.15291528
Pete Hines needs to be physically removed from his post at Bethesda. Jesus Christ he is such a fucking faggot.
721977 No.15291530
>>15289225
This is actually true.
I love 'Murica but this is a huge flaw with the court/legal/whatever system here
9d26b2 No.15291531
>>15291520
I wanna fuck that goat.
e10017 No.15291533
Also have you faggots never heard of Used-NRFB?
272a2d No.15291548
>>15288810
>this image still hasn't been posted
Come on /v/, step it up.
3f19ef No.15291560
371494 No.15291562
>>15289208
Or now stay with me here they make playing video games such a fucking hassle that people just stop buying them at together. Christ I'm practically there already I think the only games I have even bought in the past three years were Yakuza games and that's fucking it. They keep this shit up people aren't going to put up with it anymore.
2701ca No.15291563
>>15291528
No, Bethesda and the people who buy their games deserve Pete.
272a2d No.15291564
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15288812
>>15288905
>>15288998
Reminder that companies always do this kind of thing because they know the average person simply doesn't have the monetary resources to fight them in court, regardless of their case being rightful or not.
When they run into someone who can, though, it's hilarious.
37f747 No.15291570
>>15289048
>>15289055
>>15289052
Microplay in Canuckistan does this all the time. A SMT Nocturne for $15 I had been eyeing for a few months got resealed and thrown in the cabinet for double that, and if you looked hard enough you could still see the $15 sticker under the new one
d3b6c8 No.15291581
>>15288836
Semitic Semantic Manipulation
edc102 No.15291608
>>15291570
At the very least, Fucking Gamestop down here doesn't care to do that on their own accord (as they make the bulk of their profit from preowned copies of shit, and are all too happy to have all the new copies they get of stuff move out), but years ago I did encounter one manager who was very desperate to get their last "new" DMC HD Collection for the PS3 out the door. It was the store bicycle copy of course, and I got a bit annoyed at how they could call it "new" when it wasn't sealed, was somewhat beat up by that point, and had the disc and manual behind the counter. She offered to reseal it if, and I quote, I "needed it to look like it was new, for a gift or something", as if the average person is that fucking scummy to try to pass what by all rights looks used as new.
Can't speak one way or the other for stores here that focus almost solely on older games; most of what they have are clearly preowned, but some do have a small cabinet of unopened games, usually for older systems, that sit at anywhere from close to what they were at launch, or notably higher. But with most people that use them expecting preowned copies of stuff, I'd wager chances are pretty high it's not worth the stores' time to re-shrinkwrap stuff when opened copies are in more people's price range and thus more apt to move out.
ceec07 No.15291684
>>15288810
If that went to court, the judge would laugh them out. It's just a puff. Do you see anything wrong being done? Is Bethesda being wronged?
>>15288812
What precedent? It didn't go to court. They sent him a nasty letter, and he capitulated like a bitch. People have been doing this forever. I've done it. I've been on the receiving end, too.
>>15288827
You're expected to be honest as to the quality of your goods. "New" isn't defined in law here at least, for obvious reasons, but Amazon, the trader you're putting your goods up with, defines it as
>New: Just like it sounds. A brand-new, unused, unopened item in its original packaging, with all original packaging materials included.
and any seller expects that definition when you set an item to new before selling it.
If Hinesy has a different definition of new from Amazon, he doesn't like things that were bought from him being sold, and sics a law firm who doesn't care either way because they're getting paid nonetheless, that's his problem. Don't be bullied, good night, gooberchan
1bb1c6 No.15291693
>>15288783
>"You could have opened it up," he went on to explain, "played it for five hours, taken whatever inserts or stuff was in there, put it back in shrink wrap and said, 'Hey this is new.' It's not new - you owned it, you bought it, so just list it as a used title. That's it, that's the end of the argument."
THAT IS LITERALLY GAMESTOP'S CHECK-OUT POLICY
at least it was when I worked there, which was like 2002-2007
695904 No.15291717
>>15288822
>>15288824
They've literally attacked journalists trying to cover them favorably, this isn't a stretch whatsoever.
They're basically a mob that forms, points a finger and yells "that guy's X" and then beats the ever loving shit out of them whether or not it's warranted at all.
This is why they went from having really good PR to having worse PR than some actual fucking alt right white supremacists. They're flailing fucking retards.
9b90ca No.15291824
You know, this wouldn't be a problem if western games had the little pull tab on the wrapping like japanese games do. Resealing a game now is as simple as applying some new glue and refolding the plastic. Reconnecting a pull tab that tears the plastic apart without any signs of tampering? Not so easy.
e66fd8 No.15291846
>>15291684
>If that went to court, the judge would laugh them out.
I almost wish I had a bait folder for this very comment.
>>15291824
>I don't know what shrink wrap is, the post.
f7deae No.15291849
>>15291717
>to having worse PR than some actual fucking alt right white supremacists
oh no white supreeeemists
9b90ca No.15291852
>>15291846
Or I just didn't know it was actually sealed in shrinkwrap. Games are usually sealed in glued plastic wrap, so that is what I assumed.
6d249e No.15291869
>>15288783
>Bethesda doesn't understand the difference between new, used, and false advertising
…I'm actually not surprised, considering how many times they've tried to claim that they weren't using Gamebryo and that their games would be running on a "new" engine.
aa4152 No.15291871
>>15291684
>>15291846
Thankfully I do have one.
0edda1 No.15292159
>>15288783
>Buy game from store
>It's new
>Immediately resell it without touching the game
>IT'S FUCKING USED YOU DIRTY GOY
0edda1 No.15292166
NEVER FORGET
Bethesda started all this.
1f1552 No.15292183
>>15292159
b-b-b-b-b-b-but used games kill developers anon! you are worse than pirates!!
d8e728 No.15292244
>>15288783
>sealed copy never been opened
>used
What the fuck. What they really mean is:
>You're not Gamestop so fuck you
0a7556 No.15292313
>You can't re-sell things you legally purchased
Gee, I wonder (((who))) is behind this?
155419 No.15292327
>>15288833
I'll be checkin' those sick digits.
45864f No.15292340
>>15289164
He's a vice president of Bethesda Softworks. He's the PR lead of Bethesda Softworks who's been spending company time doing nothing but making fans angry on Twitter for as long as Twitter has existed. He wastes hundreds of millions of dollars of company money allocating massive budgets to games that are constant flops explicitly because he just wants to use them to push a narrative of "fuck Nazis." If he was going to be fired, he'd have been fired.
155419 No.15292379
>>15292340
Arrogant little faggots like him–whomever the fuck he is–I would like to see him and those like him tortured and killed in the most painful ways possible, along with faggots who try to censor people on the internet. Seriously, fuck them.
I really love that line about how "it's settled" or whatever. I would like to make some corporate prick say something like that right before running a fucking drill press through their eye socket. And muh natsis? Oh, you'll get those, motherfuckers. Just keep fucking with the common man.
92ce90 No.15292482
>>15292443
Elaborate, but lacks bite. 'The right are dirty hicks' has become more and more of an empty, despised canard, while having to co-opt the cuckoldry angle that's been used against you to great effect under strugglingly fictionalized circumstances is absolutely desperate. Would you care to try again?
272a2d No.15292670
>>15292443
>>15292657
Not so obvious next time Chaim, It takes the fun out of it.
92ce90 No.15292778
>>15292657
Oh, the 'moderate pseudorevolutionary conservative don't need no radicalism' spiel! That's not blase in the least. And you accuse the shilled of being part of a shell organization that has had little to do before or now with the radical activities or thought of the palingeneticist fanatics, so that you can have a strawman. Tell me, I know you don't actually believe anything you say as a shill, but how did this attitude go for the DNVP and affiliates? The milquetoast conservative officers' conspiracies throughout every Axis state? The half-measures and farcical realpolitik of every national conservative faction that revolved around a delusional 'better course,' just as soon as they oust the radicals and acquire power to do nothing much different beside having no ideology and begging for separate peace not as an idealist appeal to reason, but as an act of submission with the heads of their betters served to the enemy on a silver plate?
What's that? They were all either absorbed by the radicals because they weren't traitors and revised their allegiance, or acted as the rankest traitors & saboteurs because they couldn't allow the war to be won by accursed radicals and thought that if only they started a massive civil war to abet and polish the boots of the enemy things would go better? Gee, how'd similar attitudes go postwar for Francesco Franco, Pinochet, etc? They all had no consistent policy or animating ideal for a semi-consistent policy by ear, only petty reactionaryism and an alright track record of killing modest numbers of reds, were cast out from power after some decades of fumbling leadership, and still end up serving as critiqued idols for modern radicals that they would desperately moderate away from if they were still living? Boy, there sure is a great track record for being a mediocre faggot when trying to be on the 'right' or to fight the 'left.'
Go big or go home. Apocalyptic warfare or total victory, no middle ground, no compromise, and no compromise by the compromiser.
>>15292702
'Quietly changing rules' does not change a world conception, nor does it get Americans to listen. Promising gigantic, sweeping change gets Americans to listen to you. Promising palingenesis gets them to listen to you. Actually initiating palingenesis gets them to keep listening to you, and is beside that the only worthy goal. Half measures are death. Half measures get subverted. Half measures fail from poor tempering under long term strain. Full measures force everyone else to fail. Full measures must be a go.
All that said, this thread is about Pete Hines' fuckups and the Zenimax kikes ala Robert A. Altman, not the fact that every 'moderate right' movement is absolute shit and must be co-opted or destroyed by the totally fanatical. To which I pose the curious question, how exactly does a company led by a crooked lawyer and ex-financier banned from banking for corruption too flagrant for his own kin- and more importantly, his own kin that he robbed- manage to get off the ground in the first place? It seems very strange that he'd have found investors among the people he'd jilted. And what the hell does he know about electronics to begin with?
The answer is, to those unawares, is that he didn't have anything to do with Bethesda in its inception; in '99, he 'cofounded ZeniMax Media with Bethesda Softworks founder Christopher Weaver, as a new parent company for Bethesda. Altman was brought in as CEO, with Weaver serving as CTO,' so the wiki states. He worked some charismatic magic, threw together some corporate Jewry and suddenly preextant Bethesda has a parent in which Altman is king, but everything will be fine because he's an investor merely looking out for the good structure of the enterprise. Subsequently, Weaver was forced out of the company by Altman all of three years later, who- as holder of the parent company to Bethesda- did not renew his employment in either company and tried to steal Weaver's severance package, before settling out of court on the issue and leaving Weaver as a mere shareholder, albeit the largest. A very fine example of what happens when you compromise with malevolent shits. They fuck everything up.
073dcf No.15292804
>>15288881
>Amazon's pejorative
Stopped reading there.
53148f No.15292908
Eh, even if it's sealed, you could've dropped it, torn the disk inside, and nobody would know.
d8e728 No.15292941
>>15292778
>The answer is, to those unawares, is that he didn't have anything to do with Bethesda in its inception; in '99, he 'cofounded ZeniMax Media with Bethesda Softworks founder Christopher Weaver, as a new parent company for Bethesda. Altman was brought in as CEO, with Weaver serving as CTO,' so the wiki states. He worked some charismatic magic, threw together some corporate Jewry and suddenly preextant Bethesda has a parent in which Altman is king, but everything will be fine because he's an investor merely looking out for the good structure of the enterprise. Subsequently, Weaver was forced out of the company by Altman all of three years later, who- as holder of the parent company to Bethesda- did not renew his employment in either company and tried to steal Weaver's severance package, before settling out of court on the issue and leaving Weaver as a mere shareholder, albeit the largest. A very fine example of what happens when you compromise with malevolent shits. They fuck everything up.
It was a hostile takeover, and one that had to happen because Bethesda was bankrupt. Altman extorted the fuck out of the company, the only reason why Todd wasn't fired was because he sucked up to Altman, everyone else at Bethesda's studio branch was fired. I understand that Pete Hines comes from the publisher branch which had just wrapped up Sea Dogs at the time and was working on Sea Dogs 2 (hence why Morrowind has adverts for Sea Dogs 2 in the cover sleeve.)
Pretty much Todd and Pete are the lapdogs of Altman and they report directly to him. This is also why I think Todd is coming across as fed up because Altman is telling him to just keep doing what he always does and yet Todd looks at Chris Robberts and starts saying "That should be me" remember that Todd has gone on record as having been jealous of Origin Systems just as he was also jealous of iD software and Interplay. So Todd basically wants to go fight Star Citizen but Altman wants him just to keep churning out the same shit over and over. This is why I suspect that Starfield is going to be complete shit because its a game Altman clearly doesn't want its too "risky" and I suspect that Robberts despite being an incompetent fraud already has a significant head start on Howard. Remember that Starfield is a remake of Howards unfinished ID4 game which was a Wing Commander clone.
92ce90 No.15293168
>>15293036
It took you an entire hour to get back to shilling it. Was it a break for handbook consultation, or did you just have too much on your plate in other threads? Proud Boys and mystery meat civic men aren't going to start up 'the squads,' nor can they really be described as 'normal,' nor is 'normal' a good qualifier for what is virtuous anymore. They, like the Jewish Defense League plants and their skinhead dupes before them, will traipse about as a controlled opposition to grant the appearance of victory to the left when they are mined out from the inside like the great pit at the Somme, and unlike the former do truly nothing tangible while claiming to be doing 'real work unlike those radical losers' by moderating, failing, failing to moderate, and giving way to the left by working towards a non-total society where some of the worst monstrosity goes under the rug, and then continues unabated in private in the highest and ugliest circles, who will not be revealed in total because of this moderation. They will win nothing, least of all the war, but certainly not the peace.
You are actually, almost assuredly Morpheus forcing your Altright 1.0-2.0-3.0 meme, which while not entirely inaccurate is poisoned by the fact that you are a mystery mulatto flat earth thumperman acting in completely bad faith. You are moderating because you on a cowardly personal level don't want to go to the pyre for your general impurities, rather than seeking self-sacrifice if it means fulfilling the absolute highest good that you are perhaps not worthy to be a part of in the end. Nothing about overt and uncompromising radicalism entails 'marching the ugliest untermenschen you can find,' that'd be the Proud Boys and their beardo literal faglords to a T. It entails undermining Jews, destroying Jews, devouring Jews, and everyone that aids and abets and abides by them. The overton window does not stop shifting until it breaks down completely and there is no left-right, only the Position, not first, second, third or fourth, only the Position.
You do not excise some of the corruption. You do not excise half the corruption. You do not excise most of the corruption. You excise all of it, using every uncompromising means and rhetoric available in what is presently an information war to do so, and an information war against Jews primarily. You know, the ones that the most demonized ideologies on Earth either sought actively to destroy or adopted a measure of the destroyers' rightful hatred or skeptical caution, of which the revelation of the ideal holders' general innocence tends to cause worldview-shattering egodeath if not blocked by demoralization. A revived 'high trust society' is icing on the cake of ensuring the spite and total destruction of the Enemy. All means, including mutually assured self-destruction, must go towards destroying the Enemy, with no holds barred. Otherwise, you risk regeneration and undermining from within once this 'high trust society' is recreated and made newly vulnerable by insufficient paranoia, and the less than total destruction of the enemy that began all of the rot to begin with; you lose the peace. It means forcing the enemy into a corner and calling the bluff of MAD, and invoking it if necessary, so that both sides are destroyed and our better part can no longer be profaned by the actions of the Enemy.
e307e3 No.15293237
>>15288810
Yeah except the bits where you get clubbed over the head and assraped in prison.
e307e3 No.15293259
>>15292166
I want niggers to fess to buying this and tell us how it made you feel.
011975 No.15293296
I hate normalfags because they'll never take the time to learn what complete garbage Zenimax and Zenimax's bitch are.
2701ca No.15293684
>>15293259
I would imagine the vast majority of people who pretend to like Bethesda weren't even playing games when that happened. Everyone says 2007 was the beginning of the end but 2011 was like another casual supernova that took the already gaping wound and went full goatse with it.
739ca1 No.15293802
>>15288816
Antifa beat up a news crew and some cops at the last "nazi" rally because the 20 guys that showed up for it left after ten minutes.
0a7556 No.15293923
ce14d5 No.15294174
>>15294091
>>15293996
>the TOR community
26b85a No.15294190
>>15292702
The left can't meme. You're just another example.
6205a8 No.15294472
>>15288837
Someone got tell me sweet little lies webm?
942e35 No.15294648
>>15288881
>pejorative
lovely thesaurus abuse
011975 No.15294671
>>15294653
I got them from another thread here a while ago. Chances are whatever NeoFAG thread they're from was deleted.
4a453d No.15294700
Hines appearance and mannerisms remind me of those dumb jocks in movies from the 80s, how he's the head of a fucking videogame company I'll never know.
2317fa No.15294714
>>15294700
> how he's the head of a fucking videogame company I'll never know.
Because he isn't good for anything else.
2701ca No.15294724
>>15294700
He talks like a mildly retarded person with a gun to his back.
3e836e No.15294737
>Bethesda
>kills good fancies
>makes trash games
quickly becoming the New Electronic Arts of gaming publishers
54f835 No.15294770
>>15294737
>This meme again
Go away, Andy. No one is falling for your tricks you guys killed some of the best companies in gaming, Bethesda isn't even close to being as shit as you are.
6205a8 No.15294927
>>15294770
>meme that Bethesda is bad at making games
Skyrim, Oblivion, Wolfenstein and their Fallout games were all garbage, anon. Besides Doom, they haven't been involved in anything worthwhile in ages.
d8e728 No.15295641
>>15294737
they always were. Have you seen the bullshit they do to their third party developers.
66ba0e No.15295658
>>15292657
>samoans are out there smashing leftists
extrapolate
d3e1ce No.15295989
>>15288833
Full house digits of truth.
>>15288945
>>15288982
GameStop deserves to die for all their Jewish tricks, but they're going to die solely because the market just doesn't support their business model anymore. Their death will be bittersweet.
53148f No.15296266
>>15294927
>Skyrim, Oblivion, Wolfenstein and their Fallout games
I like them all except New Colossus.
>Besides Doom
Skyrim, Oblivion, and Fallout 4 are infinitely better than D00T.
ee1f31 No.15298930
>>15293259
>>15293684
>back when online gayming on console was still not a common thing
>cousin rigs his system to the net
>buys horse armor for the horses no one fucking used since you needed to travel on foot to boost acrobatics
>never uses it
>fast forward a few years
>the biggest goy I've ever seen
>preordered ME:A
>claimed to like ME3's shit ending
>bought no mans sky
>bought MHW
>won't ever admit he's wrong
>mfw I think about how I'm related to him
20afd1 No.15299116
>>15291562
Why don't you post some yakuza memes, the general is always stale and empty
20afd1 No.15299125
>>15292443
>jews
>not inbred
Your bodies are literally falling apart, jewish only diseases make for an entire field of medicine.
1fee0f No.15299145
Why is Pete Hines such a disgusting subhuman in both looks and thoughts?
6fe6e3 No.15299214
Pete Hines is unironically the scummiest person in the gaming industry and the fact that he isn't reviled on a universal level is a crime.
5de37c No.15299289
>>15291717
not on old contitent
5969ed No.15299290
>>15288783
>Pete Hines explains
That's all I need to know that what comes next will be a terrible mix of humorously stupid and aggravatingly annoying.
b16ad9 No.15299330
>>15288783
I unironically was hoping some lunatic would show up at E3 and fuck over Pete Hines' shit.
b16ad9 No.15299342
>>15294700
Popular girls, cool guys, bully jocks and nerds who desperately wanted to fit in with such assholes are the retards currently running western media and driving it into the ground.
0b1498 No.15299351
>>15298930
I'm sorry you had to have such a massive faggot in your family.
000000 No.15301195
>>15299330
Either incite people to do it, or pay for people to do it. It is about time that some of the industry's figures start being killed.
c7e07e No.15301213
>>15299330
>Fucking up Pete makes you a lunatic.
You're the reason it won't happen.
c14f7a No.15301248
>>15288783
>We dindunuffin wrong, we just like to flex our law team's muscles once in awhile to play with jewish semantics and have our fanboys also agree with our decisions
10f1d8 No.15301254
>>15301248
I still hate that diseased looking smile that guy has. Something is seriously wrong with it.
e5b38e No.15306072
>neetsocs so asshurt they have to do it for free to get rid of anyone effectively criticizing them
oy vey I wonder where they learned that trick
whoever said they were obsessed with becoming kikes themselves hit it on the head