3be692 No.15285513
Favorite Character?
Favorite Campaign?
Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
For me, the main downside is the retarded viewmodel. I wish you can change the x,y,z offsets and not just the viewmodel_fov value.
3e0466 No.15285599
>Favorite Character
Don't care, given that they all play the same
>Favorite Campaign
Dark Carnival. There's nothing quite like shooting zombies and assorted special infected while you have rock music blaring out behind you.
The primary problem is see with this/these game/s (which should have been a single one in the first place, but nevermind) is that the few guys who still play it are hardcore autists, so failing to position yourself in the most perfect position in the VS mode usually result in more butthurt from the team than any damage from the respective other side could inflict.
ad8ad1 No.15285608
>Favorite Character?
Nick.
>Favorite Campaign?
No mercy.
>Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
None, i got it too late to play online with friends.
50c7b7 No.15285611
I'd have to agree on Dark Carnival.
6579f8 No.15285619
>>15285513
>Favorite Character?
Coach (I know hes from the sequel)
>Favorite Campaign?
Blood Harvest
>Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
<Played on a Russian server.
<Get ripped apart by friendly fire every couple of minutes
<Dont really mind cos their noobs
<Shoot a guy while saving him from a hunter
<Kicked and banned
24a9c6 No.15285623
Nick/Bill
Dark Carnival, or Dead Air. I'm a sucker for set pieces.
75af5d No.15285633
>playing online
>having friends
lmao
d892d8 No.15285640
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Why are Zombie games always painfully repetitive? I had fun with L4D, but within 20 hours you have basically finished the entire game. You've seen it all and experienced it all multiple times already. Shooting the same hordes of enemies at the same locations with the same few accessible guns is quickly getting boring.
And the worst part is I can't think of any way we could make Zombie shooters feel fun again. What's there to make these games feel fresh and most importantly - fun with high replay value?
Dying Light tried to add parkour and somewhat more satisfying melee combat. But that too gets boring and repetitive quickly. Other games tried base building. That also got stale. Some others have attempted open world which of course suffers from the same problems as any other open world game. Then we have Hunt Showdown which tried slower paced survival with a mix of pvp. Suffers from the same problem as DayZ: The zombies are the least of your worries, you walk half an hour only to die from a guy hidden in a bush, the gameplay get's once again repetitive.
Is the Zombie formula really shallow? Is there nothing that can be done to fix it?
24a9c6 No.15285648
>>15285640
Will there is only so much you can do with massive horde of literal brain dead corpses.
0f8599 No.15285653
the hick/bill
hard rain is objectively the best map
got the game fairly late so only played it a bit with friends but not extensively
anyone wanna play?
4cc30d No.15285661
>>15285640
Make a horde builder type game in the vein of Stubbs the Zombie. We've only gotten the "tower defense" type shit and not enough of games like Stubbs where you take down a civilization from the inside out.
f3b028 No.15285672
>>15285640
Open world with basebuilding but for building bases you have to assemble doodads from the background. I think the best thing though would be to have a zombie AI "player" that coordinates the actions of the zombies to keep things fresh, challenging and unpredictable and I think its easily the best part of the L4D games is the AI director. Think that but on a larger scale. Aside from the obvious horde attack stuff it would have to do things like gather intelligence on your stockpile and send mutants to assassinate you while you're out scavenging and at your most vulnerable. Or stockpile resources itself to try to lure you into a trap. Maybe at one point it will try and concentrate all the zombies into interior spaces to deny scavenging/exp or make a siege line outside of your base to keep you from getting out easily, without getting close enough to be attacked from your defenses. Maybe its as simple as a rising "Danger" level that you have to hit objectives to lower, with not only more zombies but more complex actions by the zombie overmind. It'd just do different shit to mix things up, the game I had in mind was State of Decay while thinking of these scenarios. Different zombie games entail different "smart" zombie actions.
ad8ad1 No.15285681
>>15285653
Depends, do you like fun and mods?
6b2aa0 No.15285685
>>15285513
>Favorite Character
Coach from l4d2 and Bill from l4d
>Favorite Campaign
Hard Rain because the storm gives me a suspenseful vibe.
For l4d it's gotta be Blood Harvest
6b2aa0 No.15285735
>>15285699
>nigga
Don't you ever call me that.
4ebc41 No.15285744
eb1b13 No.15285748
>>15285672
>>15285640
There was a HL2 mod called zombie master or something where one player would spawn and control different zombies like an rts. It was pretty fun if you played on a good map.
eb1b13 No.15285754
>>15285653
Ill play a campaign with you if you don't act like a faggot
20cfcd No.15285761
>>15285513
>favorite character
i don't like any of them, i like the l4d1 cast while not liking any of them as people aside from maybe bill. l4d2 cast is trash, all of them.
>Favorite Campaign?
blood harvest, all l4d2 campaigns are also trash
>Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
no, just retards raging. haven't played in a couple of months.
>For me, the main downside is the retarded viewmodel. I wish you can change the x,y,z offsets and not just the viewmodel_fov value.
i mean you could fix this by editing the animations manually. however, what you should be doing is using l4d1 viewmodel animations, you should be subscribed to all mods here as they are what should have been in the first place.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=937168340
20cfcd No.15285764
20cfcd No.15285850
>>15285640
>repetition is bad
casual detected
6b2aa0 No.15285879
>>15285761
>Implying Dark Carnival was trash.
20cfcd No.15285884
>>15285879
it is trash, especially for versus. thematically it's not replayable and gameplay wise it's far too long and simply has 100,000 shitty design choices
6b2aa0 No.15285893
>>15285884
I guess you do kinda have a point.
33a00a No.15285924
I wish I had bought L4D1 instead of L4D2. The only reason why I even bought it was because of the XM1014 of the first game, and I thought the sequel would have the same animations.
20cfcd No.15285927
>>15285924
did you not see my post above, l4d1 viewmodel animations are available in l4d2 along with every other l4d1 exclusive feature ever be it modles or sound sported over to l4d2
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=937168340
de5c7e No.15285931
>>15285513
> Favorite Character?
Louis, because I like his demeanor and his voice acting was great. Even when shit is fucked up, he has a good feeling about things. Complain about him if you want, he was great. The first L4D cast is all great. Bill death screams the funniest.
> Favorite Campaign?
Hard Rain, I liked the dynamic weather.
> Stories?
Not really, just lots of stories of AI being fucking stupid as usual in a valve game.
20cfcd No.15285950
>>15285931
louis would unironically be the first good nigger character ever if he had more personality and quirks, he would have been ever better if he was the white middle-aged office guy in concept art though
33a00a No.15285951
20cfcd No.15285955
>>15285951
i'd suggest subscribing to them anyway in case you ever play again so they're available
otherwise, yes l4d2 viewmodel animations are trash
33a00a No.15285956
d848c5 No.15285980
>>15285513
I like Dark Wood (Extended) custom campaign, it's long, dark and pretty tough.
>stories
I once knocked out 3 survivors with one cart, which was nice. I once killed 3 survivors three quarters into Blood Harvest's first chapter with a jockey, which was hilarious
>jump on a survivor
>get him hanging on the ledge
>charger accidentally gets second survivor hanging on the ledge
>survivor gets one of them up while I'm coming back
>jump on one of them and get them hanging
>repeat this 8 times
>they eventually die to normal zombies
>>15285950
Speaking of concepts, original concept for L4D sounds much better than finished L4D.
20cfcd No.15285999
>>15285980
which concept, because there were shitloads not used in development
d848c5 No.15286004
>>15285999 (nice)
I mean that they've intended originally for L4D to be much more open, but they've decided that non-linearity is too much for their playtesters.
3be692 No.15286051
>>15285950
Motherfucker looks like DFENS from Falling Down.
174dd4 No.15286096
what about this custom campaign? I don't know how many times I played it
3be692 No.15286099
>>15286096
I have no idea what is the name of that campaign.
174dd4 No.15286107
>>15286099
questionable ethics 2, the first part was also really good
3be692 No.15286110
>>15286107
It's not related to Half Life, is it?
174dd4 No.15286116
>>15286110
only the name is related, but the game play is quite unique
01741f No.15286333
Valve fucked over the series by releasing 2 under a year later.
I told Gaben that at the /v/ meet up years ago, but he just said he let's the employees make whatever games they want and he didn't care to control that.
1 was better in every way imo, but if they would have added competitive MM like they have in GO, I would still be playing both today.
3be692 No.15286411
>>15286333
>I told Gaben that at the /v/ meet up years ago
I'm sorry, what?
40fab8 No.15286465
>>15286333
>I told Gaben that at the /v/ meet up years ago
Are you sure that was not some fat ass with glasses who you confused as Gaben?
Also,
>Favorite campaign
Dead Center
>Favorite character
Ellis
>Interesting stories
My time wasted on this game
01741f No.15286607
>>15286411
>>15286465
We had a /v/ meet up in like 2011.
We went to valve, spoke to gabe for like an hour after the tour.
It was cringy at points, but it's a bunch of autistic kids at valve. The interview is still on jewtube.
Afterparty was fun too, bunch of kids that dont drink getting drunk and playing smash bros.
I'm sure there are a few people that came with me here
76d5d7 No.15286637
>>15286607
Was it really that long ago? I think I met some of the people that went at Mark's birthday party a few years ago.
ac5b49 No.15286678
>>15285513
>character
Zoey/Nick
>campaign
I really like Death Toll, the intro camera flyover looks neat.
To anyone who still plays L4D and wants a cleaner look, mod out the game's post processing. Pics related.
01741f No.15286687
>>15286637
Mark? I dont frequent this board as much, was he the guy who hosted us in Seattle?
Also yeah, I had to think about how long ago it was. 30 year old boomers now
6c0f91 No.15286694
Has there been any game with characters who bounce off each other as well L4D's?
6c0f91 No.15286695
>>15286694
*as well as L4D's
ac5b49 No.15286718
>>15286694
Other Valve games come to mind, like Team Fortress. Outside of that, maybe Bad Company 2?
3be692 No.15286876
>>15286607
I call bullshit. If anything, it's 4/v/.
7acfcf No.15286891
You literally cannot get into a game without having at least one friend playing with you who is on the same team. The sole purpose of this is to "balance" the vote kick. The vote kick system is still broken as hell. 1239 hours and I still get instakicked on a regular basis.
3be692 No.15286901
>>15286694
Probably tf2. That's the charm of Valve's storytelling and characters. Whenever you play any valve game, you feel the interesting connections between characters. I don't normally find that in other companies' games.
3be692 No.15286910
>>15286891
>at least one friend
Yeah, I wish I can have one from this board to play with. L4D can be fun that way. Or else I'll be playing w/ bots for the rest of my life.
76d5d7 No.15286930
>>15286876
you're a fucking 2014 redditer, aren't you?
7310ec No.15286932
>>15286903
This. Elf aside, the character dialogue helps to grow each character with each passing instance. Maybe by Vermintide 3 we'll get some actual depth from the pointy eared fuck.
ad8ad1 No.15286943
>>15286932
Elf is just tsun tsun towards kruber.
cdef3b No.15286956
>>15286110
It feels more Portal-themed, I think.
1st one is real neat. 2nd one is neat as well, but the feelings I have for them are about the same as most have for Portal vs Portal 2.
For anyone who has never tried custom campaigns, I'd highly recommend I Hate Mountains. DIEscraper, Questionable Ethics, and Back to School in that order.
The first two are standard gameplay and good maps. QE is different. BtS is standard gameplay, but probably the single best custom campaign I've ever played. BtS is long and you'll always want a full crew of friends who actually like the game.
But you'll have to disable any custom Tank models you have or they'll be invisible on BtS.
eb1b13 No.15286974
>>15286910
Ill play with you
7646d7 No.15287079
>Favorite Character?
Ellis
>Favorite Campaign?
1: Death Toll
2: Swamp Fever
>Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
Finding the special infected that got stuck somewhere and start screaming without a break out of frustration
20cfcd No.15288336
>>15286901
too bad this doesn't apply to hl2, their only story-drtiven game with multiple characters. all characters in hl2 are trash retcons with one-dimensional personalities, especially alyx and eli.
760a0d No.15288866
>Favorite Character?
Probably Ellis.
>Favorite Campaign?
No Mercy for the hospital stage and rooftop final. I'm a sucker for high altitude climaxes.
Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
One time when i was playing Scavenge Motel, i exploded on a gas can as Boomer and sent it flying over the fence, making it impossible to retrieve. We still lost.
6579f8 No.15288900
>>15287079
>2: Swamp Fever
Youre the first person ive met who doesnt rank swamp fever as their least favorite map,
003f8f No.15289260
Was the fan film any good?
66c32d No.15289399
>>15285640
Left4Dead has relatively high replay-ability skill dependence and etc. You just never tried to really become good at it.
You shouldn't really expect a 40 hour singleplayer game out of a horde shooter, but calling them shallow means you aren't very good at them either.
Shit like dying light is incredibly tedious and considerably worse outside of the exploration element.
66c32d No.15289413
>left4dead 1
>1 nigger
>the supposedly intellectual nigger
>left4dead 2
>2 niggers
So can we safely assume that if 3 ever comes out it will have 1 white woman, a gook and 2 niggers ?
3be692 No.15289711
>>15289399
That's another thing I dislike about L4D. It only becomes replayable after a few months/years.
3be692 No.15295622
660abd No.15295649
>>15289399 did you get Bridge over trebled slaughtered?
a2259c No.15295697
>>15285513
>Favorite Character?
Ellis/zeoy
>Favorite Campaign?
Parish
i dunno i jsut liek the feel about it
b24e96 No.15299152
>Character
Ellis
>Campaign
I dunno, Dead Air from the first game?
>Interesting stories?
Not really. There was this one time my cousin and I were playing with two randos, and we made it to the end of Death Toll where you have to get on the boat. We all fought our way down to it, except for this one asshole who somehow got lost on the way or was trying to boost his score and ended up dragging a horde of zombies our way. My cousin and the other rando were running around killing off the zombies that were trying to board the boat, and I was taking potshots at the horde the guy on shore was fighting trying to pick off special infected. To his credit, the guy was doing pretty well at surviving, but he was dancing and dodging around so much that the zombies attacking the boat started to get a bit more than we could handle and we were running out of ammo - and then the tank showed up. Everyone starts yelling at him to quit fucking around and get on the boat. He goes down a second later. He wasn't far from the boat, and we had medpacks, but the tank was coming and the horde was still there. So I tell everyone to stay on the fucking boat, take aim, and finish his dumbass off. As soon as he dies, the whistle blows and the cutscene plays.
That was a pretty fun moment. Actually felt like something out of a zombie flick.
647b43 No.15299225
>>15289711
what did he mean by this
3be692 No.15299646
>>15299225
I mean if you don't have friends, and are stuck w/ bots, the fun ain't going to last long. Even with infinite mods ain't going to make it more fun.
20cfcd No.15299791
>>15299646
you can play with pubs though
148a5e No.15299814
>>15286333
To this day I'm convinced that every person who talked shit about the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott has themselves to blame for the current state of Valve.
20cfcd No.15299823
>>15299814
valve was shit ever since they lied to the faces of fans at e3 2003, good guy valve has always been a meme
fuck them
c9b15d No.15299838
>>15285640
Left 4 Dead was just a whole lot of laziness on Valve's part (surprise surprise). It took a long time to release and they took a stupid amount of time to actually release the SDK or any meaningful updates to it.
L4D2 has some ok additions but the whole game just feels like a kneejerk reaction to what their forums suggested would be good. The Charger, was originally called the Roller in the Steam Forums and the Spitter was also an idea drummed up by users too. The weapons they did add, just being slightly different iterations of what we had already, don't feel or function any differently to what we had already. Sure, the SCAR is burst fire and some guns fire slightly quicker than others, but like with the melee weapons, none of them feel entirely different aside from being Shotgun, Auto-shotgun, SMG, Rifle, Sniper Rifle.
We should have been seeing regular updates in terms of new maps at least. Considering it only took about a year for L4D2's development. 5 campaigns for L4D2's release which took a fucking age for the SDK and any meaningful content to come from Valve. Considering it basically being an online only game, (bots are fucking retarded and that's all the special infected are too), it needed regular updates. But Valve is lazy as fuck.
People still holding out hopes for HL3, which "should" release on a new engine with entirely new assets, etc. are delusional, because Valve can't even do copy and paste games right (L4D).
6dc740 No.15299839
Favorite Character?
"Phew, good thing I am indestructable"
Favorite Campaign?
Dark Carnival and Hard Rain
Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
Not really one that sticks out but since it's an "old" game with Servers you can have some nice fun rounds where everyone kinda agrees to goof around and others where the team just werks together. Not that the counter side doesn't also happen often enough.
3be692 No.15308192
>>15299839
Yeah Francis is a neat character. My other favorite character apart from Bill and Nick.
644c39 No.15308628
f3b028 No.15317868
Never played L4D for any significant amount of time, is it too late to get into it and expect to find random lobbies with people in it that won't just kick me for playing like a noob?
1922a6 No.15329870
op playing left 2 niggers.
that's not left 4 dead. it had a fuckin white crew. it was good.
4fc974 No.15331388
>Favorite character
Zoey/Nick
>Favorite Campaign
Death Toll/Dark Carnival. No Mercy being very close
>Any stories
Too many to count…
Use to do competitive versus, even did a small tournament. At one point I was pretty damn good at the game to the point I nearly got compliments every game. The tournaments didn't last long, others besides one guy I played with on my team where average and tilted from the smallest mistakes. Lost a friend due to it but, he was a huge faggot who couldn't accept criticism or mistakes. Would abuse the votekick to even if you where a friend.
04e7be No.15331612
>>15331388
Sounds like a narcissist
9a9681 No.15331634
When did this game come out? Never heard of it. Any good?
4fc974 No.15331660
>>15331612
He was, my first lesson that autists are near impossible to convince. We had one game where the survivors where really good at aiming with the hunting rifles, like they sat down and practiced. As soon as you would show up at least one of them had you in their scope and nearly instant kill you. It was fustrating but tried to use the moment to getbetter, mean while he was foaming out the mouth shit talking the other team. After he raged and the rest of us left, I added one of the surivors how he did it. All he said was "Practice and a good pair of headphones lmao".
9c6340 No.15331692
Any of you niggers still playing L4D2? I'm bored.
2a8df3 No.15331889
>>15331692
I havent played it in forever but getting some games going with anons seems like it could be a fun time
or funny as aspies start sperging into the mic because someone fucks up
5ff7d6 No.15331953
>>15285513
>Favorite Character?
Francis for L4D, Ellis for L4D2
>Favorite Campaign?
Hard Rain
>Any interesting stories that happened while you were playing w/ online players?
No, it's pirated.
Should've asked >Favorite mod?
Which my answer would be editting out all the niggers.
26ff41 No.15342388
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VERSUS
the chad killing floor
946851 No.15343750
>>15342388
WAYNE ROONEY'S SMARTER THAN YOU