f87341 No.15281175
>Rainbow Six Siege comes out.
>Unfortunately pushes the online multiplayer meme but gameplay remains fun tacticool gameplay
>Unfortunately goes soft F2P and is filled with retarded mongoloids from brazil, eastern europe and france like every LA CREATURA infested game.
>Team killing becomes the expected match experience
>literally 99/100 matches ends in seconds to a tween screaming to 'check out his epic rage montage channel on youtube'
>game gets so bad it becomes unplayable, even Battleborn is not unplayable, even Lawbreakers can organise a match per day amongst its sad down with the ship players
>Everyone i know drops the game and i actively disuade anyone i know from wasting time, money or bandwidth on this crushing disappointment
>OVER A YEAR LATER
>Get an email from ubishit today
>Its a survey
>"How badly has Team Killing effect you and everyone you know in game? has it made it unplayable? how long ago did you quit?"
Two questions: 1 why the fuck did this reaction from them take so long? and 2 just how bad is their new player retention if its finally pushed them to this?
Inb4 the resident siege shill trying to damage control.
9a73f0 No.15281183
>>15281175
It's okay, ubisoft had more pressing issues to take care of anon! Censoring nigger and faggot was far more important!
f87341 No.15281252
>>15281232
i just wanted to kick down doors and blast in walls with charges.
161d93 No.15281254
>>15281183
>>15281175
I was about to ask ya guys if R6 is still worth it, despite the "Censoring nigger, faggot, and Paki are far more important" issues. Plus, which version is better Steam or Uplay? If not, I got other games to throw money at.
60fbee No.15281256
>>15281232
>dropped the game when I realized that it had heroes
this so much, classes belong to RPGs, if even there
f87341 No.15281260
>>15281254
It has waaaaay bigger issues than censorship man. its a fucking shame as the gameplay is reet good fun m8.
9a73f0 No.15281267
>>15281252
You can still do that, just bend over for the poz. It's what I do
>>15281254
Just don't. You're gonna play it and one of two things will happen.
>join game
>what op describes happens
>quit game and have no fun
>try again
>get peeked out of spawn by a sweaty brazilian with 3000 hours in the game
>get mad an uninstall
or
>play game
>have fun
>DLC, censorship, eternal beta, nerfs, and other such shit whittles away at your fun until you're a 1000 hours in and regret every second
0e175a No.15281270
161d93 No.15281274
>>15281260
>>15281267
Thank, Anons. Looks like I'll wait for some things to be fix, it won't be the first time I'll wait for Ubisoft to get some of their stuff together that takes several months to a year or two.
90cd1c No.15281276
>>15281232
I dropped the game when I realized that Ubishit cared more about the PVP/esport than Terrorist Hunt.
f87341 No.15281285
>>15281274
Whats your Underground rank?
9a73f0 No.15281289
>>15281274
You see anon, the thing is that stage had passed. They fixed everything in the first year, but then they just kept going and ruined it all again. It's only gonna go further down. Just pass on it.
baa2d2 No.15281334
I've been waiting for a thread like this.
Bought the game when Para Bellum dropped during a Steam sale because I remember there were /v/ threads about it a few months back saying that despite the E3 lies that the game was still fun. Obviously I had no idea what I was expecting and I thoroughly enjoyed the game then the more I played the more literal 11-year olds and dudebros i encountered. It's still fun to play because of the mute button yet I have no experience with the game when you guys tried it out. I genuinely enjoy the hero gadget aspect, as long as it's not too goofy and semi-grounded it feels fun to have more variations in gameplay without feeling fatigued
f87341 No.15281344
>>15281334
The /v/ threads were a shill. The more anons fell for it and went 'hang on this is actually shit because of the playerbase' the less he posted as his sales per shill quota dropped below his projections.
9789d3 No.15281362
>>15281334
She's cute, post more
9a73f0 No.15281366
>>15281334
>ela
>has a desert eagle
She couldn't even go all the way.
4ea637 No.15281383
baa2d2 No.15281406
Also to mention Ubisoft has some more issues regarding glitch exploits, leaving the match, and rewarding good players.
For the glitch exploits in Secure Area Oregon basement spawn an entire team managed to glitch their way in to the laundry machines and we had to wait them out and it took over 5 minutes of overtime to figure out how the hell they did it just to kill them.
Match leaving happens often and it still fucks with your rank.
Even if you hard carry a team of level 20 fresh off the boat bronze 4's and still lose, your rank still gets hit.
>>15281344 (checked)
I don't recall them being shill threads but I'll take your word on it.
>>15281362
Yeah sure, if you want sauce just reverse image search.
>>15281366 (checked)
Yeah it's a shame
>>15281383
No
161d93 No.15281426
>>15281344
This Steam curator https://steamcommunity.com/groups/ShitlistService gave me information which that tells me that I should wait. Their review of R6 says: 2 years after release, the game's baseline cost remains expensive with around 300E in DLC as the devs also still utterly struggle to make a functioning matchmaking and a stable hit-reg system. AVOID.
430e23 No.15281439
I bought the starter pack when it was on sale a year after its release. I enjoyed my time with it but I have no intention of ever going back. Team Killing, noobs killing the hostage, shrieking kids, 3000+ hours played tryhards that ignore the objective in an attempt to kill the entire enemy team just to get sniped and then rage about how everyone else sucks and then teamkills the next round. I'm good.
baa2d2 No.15281458
>>15281254
There is no ubisoft or steam version it's just one version, the ubisoft version. meaning that when they inevitably decide to kill the game after its peak, everyone will lose it.
>>15281426
i know that curator, i was invited to that by an anon. besides that the devs are mostly focused on making more cash, you can tell by how many skins and dlc operators they push out without even looking at what's actually wrong with the game.
>>15281439
iirc the starter pack is hot garbage but im glad you enjoyed your time with it
4ea637 No.15281463
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15281406
>>15281406
>>15281383
but when searching for that name I get this vid-
f99733 No.15281464
Are consolefags vindicated just because they aren't necessarily plagued by streamer scum? I hardly get team killers and can say I never had to play with a hue.
3d1e39 No.15281484
>>15281458
>>15281406
>>15281334
>doesnt even have a puma camo jacket
0/10, would not bang
baa2d2 No.15281486
>>15281463
jesus fucking christ i'd be happy knowing that didnt exist yet you did it anyways
besides the facial structure isnt the same so its not the same person
>>15281464
i never encountered a hue but i did play with a turk and he was a god damn brainlet
430e23 No.15281490
>>15281458
The starter pack just means you have to grind more to unlock ops. Didn't bother me. I unlocked the ones that seemed the most fun to start with and went from there. I unlocked almost all the ops before I quit playing.
Ubisoft said they plan on having 100+ operators for this game eventually. They want it to be moba tier with the hero classes that are meant to hard counter other hero classes. It's a pure cash grab that will succeed because even after all the bullshit they've pulled people still play.
161d93 No.15281589
>>15281458
Sorry, Anon, I mean buying digitally straight from the Uplay store. Even though it's the same version.
340339 No.15281688
>>15281175
>Two questions: 1 why the fuck did this reaction from them take so long? and 2 just how bad is their new player retention if its finally pushed them to this?
Some streamer probably complained about it.
000000 No.15281720
>6+ months ago
>R6 is out on XB for free play days
>cool
>check it out
>realize its pretty much pay to win due to the better operators being more costly, and the currency is a reeeeeaaaaaaaaaaal grind
>try to carry on
>retarded teammate kills me
>try to carry on
>get revenge kill
>whole rest of team gangs up on me
>try to carry on
>they kill me at the start of each round
>assholes
>report them
>run out of reports for the day
>wtf
>quit and never come back
>aaaaaah, yes, yes, boobiesoft, quality gameplay mechanics, quality
and the retards are still scratching their heads as to why people aren't playing any of their games anymore
06859f No.15281778
>>15281720
My buddy fell for this cancer and bought it. He kept getting groups of niggers abusing the bote kick function and ruining his games.
I played during a free weekend with him, and got kicked for being the last man standing in that defend the point mode. Their reasoning was that I was camping the objective in a match where I was outnumbered completely. I even managed to kill several of them before the kick happened. They don't need to teamkill to waste your time in this game.
2dde85 No.15281881
>try R6S on a free weekend because why not
>pick operator that's well-recommended
>spawn
>teamkilled by BR that wanted it
>spawn on opposing side
>teamkilled by same BR just for kicks
>new game
>rinse and repeat, substitute BR, if necessary, for
< • Underageb&
< • lispy YouTuber or Twitch Streamer
< • lispy friend of YouTuber / Twitch Streamer
< • unintelligible russian faggot
< • Underageb& or lispy faggot pretending to be an unintelligible russian faggot
< • stolen and renamed account
>play recruit just to get at least a round in since I can't pick different operators
>teamkilled for picking recruit even though it's an unranked match
Dumb faggot kids and their soy-based nutrition will turn me into a boomer.
9adbb8 No.15281982
I like it cause I have autism aka mental wall hacks and I just wall bang niggers all day. Game is ez.
bbdb97 No.15289295
>game relies on a central server
>5v5 only
>muh matchmaking ranks
>paying for textures
>no dedicated servers
Fucking dropped
d38cb6 No.15289306
Off topic but the new call of duty has a 60 second prep time to pick your character before the match. The only thing that series had going for it was the instant action.
b23531 No.15289323
I don’t get it, when I played the game I rarely got even whining from teammates let alone intentional TKs. Did it really turn that bad after a year and a half?
>>15281881
Did you consider shooting first?
ed67dc No.15289418
I played it right up until the point they patched the renown exploit i used to get characters for free. Didn't get banned luckily. They patched that exploit around they time they had the Spanish operators so I was able to grab the glorious Nippon operators before the patch. I'm not paying a cent for DLC in a fucking multiplayer game, so unless anyone here knows how to cheat in renown then I'm not going to bother with Siege anymore. Why pay $20 for any content in game when it it could be made irrelevant in a patch 6 mounths down the road?
The core gameplay is pretty fun with all the destructibility and guns that feel satisfying. The problem is they made the game a live service. Between all those stupid skins, limited time events, The esports meme encouraging the playerbase to play like twitchy-shooty Faggots, and the endless stream of heros operators, the core game just isn't there anymore.
The game started out as a refreshing modern era shooter but now it's turned into Inspector Gadget 2: Electric Bugaloo.
3dc48b No.15289465
>>15281175
>gameplay remains fun tacticool gameplay
hahaha, maybe to a bunch of subhumans
>game gets so bad it becomes unplayable
it always was, youre just slow on the take.
you remind me of the faggots that bought and shilled for "for honor" and said it was good, then a month later said it was ruined by the playerbase, the devs through updates, and matchmaking problems.
its a shit game and it always was. just like how normalfags jump from the current "it" game to the next. youre just following suit but think your opinion is somehow any more valid than the average normalfag.
3eb5c7 No.15289600
I don't have so much of a problem with retard teammates or TKers because I'm accostumed to playing lone wolf and carrying the team on my own (and even then it's a rather exaggerated problem outside free weekends). I don't think getting faggots grouped in with you has been a problem that has intensified recently, it's always been like that post Japan update. If you were playing on a free weekend, then getting a shit team is a 99% likelihood for both teams involved. I can often ace a team of free weekenders even when most of my team left. Knowing where to peek outside and how to reposition while roaming can make a big difference. Spawnpeeking can be avoided with drones. Most traps can be avoided with drones for that matter.
I only communicate enemy positions, telling others how to improve, and don't bother with revenge tk'ing, that shit just makes things worse. Of course knowing /v/, most people here don't have any humility and feel the need to retribute themselves no matter what, so it comes to no surprise that they find themselves agonized beyond belief when everyone else gangs up on them and when they're too much of a newshitter to take out their frustrations properly on the enemy team. Then again, you won't really know what you are doing and not go full DSP unless you've put at least 100 hours in the game and can play and move with confidence instead of playing like a turtle because you don't know the map.
Mechanically the game has only improved really, balance is more on the smoother side now and people have learned to play around the trap meta by now on top of defenders finally getting a boon with deployable cameras. I think that with the increased prevalence of the more faggoty surface-level details such as more silly skins and chat filters people here like to let themselves get turned off more easily so they can get themselves off on /v/ about how right they were in hindsight so they can feel more smug. I'm not sure why you would do that though.
I'm not going to defend the recent practices, but you'll have to get accostumed to taking the bad with the good. I've played like 350hrs by now and have developed a seventh sense for the game. It's not about being the most accurate, but how you position yourself and how you can read your opponent. I remember this situation in Oregon on the 2F hallway where some guy threw a drone through the hallway window which scanned me before I destroyed it, so me being Jäger I sprinted down to the entrance lobby, to the kitchen, took the other staircase up, and what do I see, some unaware shmuck peeking in the room I used to be in before I shot him through the head from behind. There's definitely a huge skill ceiling here, but you'll have to deal with at least a hundred hours of dumb mistakes, getting killed by someone you couldn't see, and angering your more experienced teammates first
1db4c0 No.15289628
Haven't played the game in months. The recent retarded chat filter only tells me I should probably stay away.
ffce47 No.15289733
>>15289465
Does your handler know that you're on the internet all by yourself?
74dfd2 No.15289793
Teamkilling was part and parcel of casual as a means of tard-wrangling your own team into not doing permanent shit that would fuck up your odds of winning the round. Ubisoft has already hard restricted it once, and it surprises me to this day they didn't just disable friendly fire during the prep phase so the snowflakes on the subreddit wouldn't get their casual mocha-latte venti experience ruined.
Yes, nobody wants to spend the round dead. But nobody also wants to defend 2nd floor consulate with a wasted reinforcement between the office and coffee room because you are too retarded to learn how to properly reinforce and can't even be bothered to listen to your teammates telling you to stop. Hell, half of most teamkills start with a Mira begging someone not to reinforce a wall and they just don't listen.
I stopped playing a long while ago. Ubisoft made Siege as a means to not lose money on all those assets they made for Patriots, they expected to make money on day one sales and get to abandon the game for clearly superior experiences like Watch Dogs 2 and For Honor. Instead, Siege ended up being successful, and so, quality being anathetical to the Jew, they began carving pieces out of it to try and sabotage it while raping as much profit out of it as they could. That'll teach them for not buying Steep and The Crew 2, those fucking goyim
9a73f0 No.15290831
>>15290827
No, he's saying you git gud at the hundred hour mark.
b23531 No.15290841
>>15289793
That TK logic doesn't make any sense though
>damnit he forgot to put up a barrier
>better just kill him so he's not even useful as a human shield
Even a complete retard is useful as bait. I don't think you're being creative enough.
7561df No.15290842
>>15289793
>Ubisoft made Siege as a means to not lose money on all those assets they made for Patriots, they expected to make money on day one sales and get to abandon the game for clearly superior experiences like Watch Dogs 2 and For Honor. Instead, Siege ended up being successful (because as a thing made by a the Ubi B team, AKA the guys that don't suck up to the leadership, likely have strong opinions about vidya and don't suck at their jobs per Dilbert principle), and so, quality being antithetical to the Jew, they began carving pieces out of it to try and sabotage it while raping as much profit out of it as they could. That'll teach them for not buying Steep and The Crew 2 those fucking goyim.
Fix'd.
25430f No.15290852
>>15281254
R6 Siege is buggy trash that's moderated like Club Penguin. This is inexcusable for a $60 game with microtransactions:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/359550/announcements/detail/1708440120519086316
34dd75 No.15290876
>haha well the last few operators have been SyFy bullshit, but I'm sure Ubisoft will go back to their roots with Grim Sky
>pic related
>>15281175
>literally 99/100 matches ends in seconds to a tween screaming to 'check out his epic rage montage channel on youtube'
>game gets so bad it becomes unplayable, even Battleborn is not unplayable, even Lawbreakers can organise a match per day amongst its sad down with the ship players
Is it a single person pushing this line on /v/? As someone who plays Siege semi-regularly, I'd say teamkilling occurs somewhat more frequently than ideally, but much more in the 5-10% range of games.
>>15290841
I think he means the other way around, the 'tard is reinforcing shit that makes the objective harder to defend.
b23531 No.15290893
>>15290876
that makes more sense
>that pic
Static Shock transitioned and became a cop?
161d93 No.15290946
>>15289465
I'm not going near that, it has Denuvo and Easy Anti-Cheat.
9a73f0 No.15291111
>>15290876
The shield is okay. That just looks like zappy montagne. I'm more disgusted by the bald negroid. though >>15290893 made it pretty funny.
baa2d2 No.15291146
>>15290876
OY MATE YOU GOT A LOISENSE FO THAT TAZAH?
e3e0a7 No.15291160
Why couldn't we just get another one of these? The multiplayer in it was perfect.
fb5e8f No.15291313
>gaming remains fun tactical
HA
HAHA
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAGAHAHAHGA
262588 No.15291331
>>15291160
Because ubisoft can't develop good games anymore
d13450 No.15291362
I was excited about it until it went the whole "unique characters with unique abilities" route. Then it could go fuck itself.
3dc48b No.15291381
>>15289733
>defending r6s
Are you lost?
baa2d2 No.15291386
>>15291362
What's so wrong with it?
fb5e8f No.15291393
>>15289465
For honor is the best tactical game I've ever played
I'm also 12
36347f No.15291411
>>15290876
>UK police officer is a bald black woman, possibly a lesbian, diversity hire
Hey, at least it's accurate.
c70a7d No.15291427
Online games are fun in low ranks before you find out about the meta. Once you discover it everything loses its charm and it becomes stale. You see for what the game really is, and it becomes a chore to play. The faggots you are now matched with are virgins with inflated egos so now you can only get your funs by griefing them. Try to delay knowledge if you want that sweet innocent fun with the clueless chads.
fb5e8f No.15291441
>buy game
>Play for 2 hours
>It looks nice but it's shittiness makes me sick
>Realise it's a hero shooter
>Delete it
>Few months go by
>Decide to give it another shot
>Spend 50% of my download limit (Australia) downloading the game
>Try to play game
>Ubisoft launcher launches
>Log in to your account
>What the fuck. I just used a random account name to register my game that I don't remember
>Contact support
>We can't help you
>Isn't there some way to confirm my purchase?
>No
>Isn't there some key that steam uses to confirm this is a legitimate purchase or at least use that let to find the account email I used?
>No
It's fucking shit.
2c9ab4 No.15291462
>>15291441
>Buy a game without getting to know what it exaclty is
>Make an account and no effort to remembe it
>download limit
>"It's fucking shit."
Nigga you're more retarded than ubisoft. You sure you're an aussie and not an aboriginal?
fb5e8f No.15291472
>>15291462
I knew what the game was. I'm just such a fan of rainbow six though that I purchased it regardless just in case there was a chance I would enjoy it.
I make lots of random accounts because I'm not a faggot Redditor like you. This was the first time I have ever experienced a launcher that tied a game to an account. I guess I'm just not a cuck who used to bending over like that.
79e4bc No.15291486
>>15291472
>le reddit meme in 2018
lol
ab89be No.15291566
Do you still get auto-banned for saying shit like "red dot" or "nibba"? Or am I thinking of a different game?
42e36a No.15291776
>>15281175
>>Unfortunately goes soft F2P and is filled with retarded mongoloids from brazil,
Hey fuck off, BOPE was the only good thing to come from the country of Brazil.
3106f7 No.15291902
The most fucking retarded thing is that the games are tactical vs tactical team
ITS FUCKING RETARDED.
Tactical teams should be shooting African pirates on boats and raiding cartel drug labs.
fe922f No.15292400
>>15281183
Tell me about it. That's practically every fucking "game" nowadays.
>oh, sorry about how every game is basically shit now
>no one will be (((OFFENDED))) tho
581918 No.15292486
>>15281252
I know that feel.
>dream game Descent + SWAT + Rainbow Six
>tfw nobody has the balls to make it happen
>tfw too stupid and lazy to just make it myself
I just want tacticool dogfighting in enclosed spaces with a competent team.
30d376 No.15292612
99% of my game play is terrorist hunt, I enjoy it playing with a friend. When Outbreak came out we were hyped but Ubisoft decided to make it limited time AND 3 players no more, no less.
Terrorist hunt has unlimited potential if they just allowed to tweak some settings like number of terrorist, bombers, etc.
08e61a No.15292623
3aabf7 No.15292645
>>15292486
what an excellent concept
ac771c No.15292698
>>15291386
Characters only serve to add unnecessary counter picks and tier lists to a game about strategy and team placement. The game would be better if there were no unique gadgets and instead focused solely on positioning and coordination.
>>15291411
Would have been more accurate if she was a street shitter.
5cf48d No.15292774
>>15292698
I don't play this game, so this is a very generalized question, but Can selecting a character or class in an FPS even be meaningfully distinguished from selecting a loadout? If all classes are available to everyone, and the only things separating them are guns and gadgets, or stats of some kind like HP or move speed, then is selecting a class not the same as selecting those stats, gadgets and guns? Counter picks and tier lists develop in completely standard FPSs anyway. Some guns aren't worth using against certain other guns, or have drawbacks in certain situations, or are just outright shit. By making things class or hero based, aren't you just moving the same question to a different level of analysis? In the end, you are still selecting the same kinds of mechanics that are more or less effective than the others, for the same reasons.
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fa1c87 No.15292881
>>15290841
I really want to edit this fucking image so it won't be fucking yellow and disgusting instead of her truel electric colors and match her skin tone and electric instead of an out of place yellow shit.
d5ba07 No.15292889
>>15281267
Why don't people just not play nu-games?
9a4121 No.15293942
>>15291160
but that one was even more shit, made by the faggot Maxime Beland, who also killed Splinter Cell with Conviction. Rainbow Six ended with Raven Shield
I actually really liked the Vegas games, but it ain't Rainbow
3eb5c7 No.15293973
>>15292698
If you have a variety of characters which can synergize to create even more unique strategic plans using your team then it can only add to the strategic possibilities. Having different characters which add even more variables to the mix for each situation prevent things from getting stale as opposed to when every player character is the exact same. Most team-based multiplayer shooters are class-based because of this.
Why else do you think fighting games have these huge rosters since their conception?
08c95b No.15293980
>>15292886
Scotland Yard has nothing to do with Scotland, it's the HQ of the Met Police in London
7879fb No.15296902
>>15292886
>scotland yard is in scotland
I can smell the burgers from here
e82a5c No.15296958
I was thinking of getting this game then I saw a video with some faggot who had some gay purple gun skin and immediately forgot about ever buying this shit
cf3421 No.15297070
The only FPS franchise that will ever be worth investing a significant amount of time into is CS. The rest get filled with gimmicky bullshit because the devs don't understand what makes a good competitive shooter; solid, fair, and consistent gameplay. Yes, without gimmicks your game will never be huge on twitch or super popular with the kids, but you'll have a solid player-base that will stick around for the long run.
I'd like a game somewhere in-between R6 and CS, like >>15281252 said but I can't see any large publisher having the pining to make a serious financial investment in something like that. I fear we will have overwatch-tier class shooters being shoved in our faces for the next decade
223cbe No.15297090
>>15292886
>Does not know Scotland Yard is in London.
8efab3 No.15297148
>bought the poverty edition the day it came out
>have tons of fun playing with friends or alone
>play 180-190 hours in a couple of months
>game is generally fun and semi-balanced
>people are generally good
>game is usually played more slow and careful
>some operators are kinda shit, but they have unique gadgets
>year 2 kicks off with Velvet Shell
>great map, two interesting and balanced operators
>but something is wrong
>the game isn't fun
>the normalfags actually figured out the game wasn't shit
>every match is teamkilling or some faggot screaming into a microphone trying to be funny
>friends drop the game entirely, except for one
>borderline stop playing the game altogether
>operation health fucking happens
>shit starts getting imbalanced as fuck, along with the normalfag infestation getting worse
>all of a sudden, everyone is just sprinting everywhere and getting into aim duels with people
>there's no plans, no strategy, it's just "get in the building and aimduel people to death"
>game goes to shit entirely
>hey it's the Hong Kongoids
>their map is shit
>ying blows absolute dick unless you're playing in a team of 5
>lesion has invisible meme traps because why the fuck not
>ela is broken as shit, but that's because the devs intended her to win 1v multiple fights, or something like that
>she has a passive ability for no fucking reason
>she also has an extra ability while downed
>this is the point of no return
>oh hey, it's the jews of asia
>their map is shit
>dokkaebi has a one button press global ability, and a passive to hack cameras
>echo gets a passive for no reason because she got put in the game
>vigil is a shit character with a borderline worthless ability carried by good gun selection
>zofia is a shittier ash
>also has the same passive as Ela
>can get up from bleed out state without help because of L O R E
>S E A S O N P A S S 3
>no new map
>lion has a global one button ability that spots anyone who moves on the entire map
>finka has a global one button ability that buffs your entire team and revives anyone who's down on the entire fucking map
>they both get decent weapon choices
>lion absolutely breaks the game for a full month before he gets slightly nerfed
>the nerf basically takes nothing from him
>but it's a normalfag game and as soon as something is nerfed, nobody plays it anymore
>stop even keeping up with the game at this point
>take a glance at the spaghetts that came out recently
>maestro gets an LMG with the best rate of fire, mag size, possibly damage, an ACOG and insane hipfire
>on defense
>between all this ubisoft has:
>taken maps out of the game
>shit on the terrorist hunt gamemode repeatedly
>changed or reworked characters that were fun and unique to play to cater to the esportsfags
>made retarded balancing decisions
>stepped up the jewry factor by increasing prices on cosmetics and adding lootboxes
>implemented a filter that autobans you for committing thought crimes
>nerfed a character into the ground because consolefags couldn't hit a suitcase sized target slowly rolling across the floor
>made the qt polish girl into some green haired angry cunt with daddy and sister issues
>done a bunch of other questionable shit I can't remember
8a3caa No.15297153
>>15297148
While I still find Doki, Finka and Lion bullshit, Lion did get nerfed really damn hard. He's still antithetical to the game itself, but he was utterly broken on release.
>>15296902
>>15293980
>>15297090
Are Brits really that surprised people don't know the intricacies of how their police state is organized, especially with that name?
9d948f No.15297185
>>15281175
STOP PLAYING UBISOFT SHIT YOU DUMB CUNT.
621f05 No.15297217
>>15297148
If it meant having longer queues for games, I would gladly go back to when the community was smaller and the game was more fun to play.
0ce807 No.15297804
>>15289418
>why pay to have the operators
>when after 5h of game you have more than enough of it to unlock the operator
Your mentality is fucking retarded. You barely have any problem with renown unless it’s for skins which make you just a flaming faggot to care about it
7879fb No.15298228
>>15297153
Everyone knows that Scotland yard is in London, it's famous. Have you never read/heard of Sherlock Holmes? Have you never watched the news?
b70203 No.15298254
>>15297090
>>15297153
>>15298228
I think people who watch the news know about England for different reasons. And reminder that London was built by the Romans, stolen and renamed by barbarians. The wog invasion and reappropriation of Londinium is just desserts. Also if your curious, Scotland Yard is so named because of the street it is on.
3eb5c7 No.15298476
>>15292886
>shield op, but for DEFENDERS
>can shoot lightning bolts forward, that's probably why the shield is made out of glass/polymer instead of metal
>probably meant to counter attacking shield ops
So Blitz is finally getting his hard counter? That see-through plastic doesn't look like it'll block his flashbang though
9a73f0 No.15298491
>>15298254
>Also if your curious, Scotland Yard is so named because of the street it is on
I actually never knew that. It's like Wall Street.
42a094 No.15298513
>>15292886
Really glad I need a youtube video of someone watching an mp4 on reddit instead of you just finding the mp4 and posting it here.
12276e No.15298556
>people played this
>people STILL play this
>people STILL talk about this
you faggots will never learn
230873 No.15298577
>>15298228
>Holmes
>eccentric bongistan powertripping
>the news
>being worth any amount of salt these days
lo
600a36 No.15299452
>>15290876
>when they announced the year3 season 3 op was going to have a scotland yard rep I joked that "it's gonna be a bald black lady in a bobby cap"
>i wasn't far off
Reminder that the actual scotland yard special operations members look like this, I dunno why they decided to skip research, hell if they made it a black girl but gave her a uniform i'm sure less people would be put off than they are with this fuckugly design. Even more disappointing is that last seasons operators designs were back to year 1 standard where they clearly look like SWAT or spec-ops with just a little personal flair but now it's back to whoever though Ela and dokkebai were good designs I guess. SHOCKY SHIELDY seems like a massive step down from the decoys as well
600a36 No.15299464
>>15298476
>>shield op, but for DEFENDERS
watch them fuck up monumentally and not make it breakable and they just camp defense point corners indefinitely
ba7170 No.15299505
>>15281175
>playing a shit
There's your problem right there.
>>15281334
>>15281406
>those skintight pants
UUUMMMPPPHHH
600a36 No.15299519
>>15297148
>>echo gets a passive for no reason because she got put in the game
It's because he doesn't use a phone, his cams are on his wristband and they were probably too lazy to animate it properly and lampshaded it
>>maestro gets an LMG with the best rate of fire, mag size, possibly damage, an ACOG and insane hipfire
I genuinely think Maestro and Alibi were good additions, along with the bulletproof cam universal gadget because it actually slowed down mad cunt rushers
>>implemented a filter that autobans you for committing thought crimes
which to my understanding still causes issues with spanish speaking players trying to talk about the Black Mirror, the Black Eye,or fucking blackbeard
>>nerfed a character into the ground because consolefags couldn't hit a suitcase sized target slowly rolling across the floor
still mad about this, the nerf did nothing but punish people who were good and sent twitch to the bench making thatcher to only truly effective gadget-buster but now half the gadgets on the field are only disabled temporarily by his EMP
8a3caa No.15299627
>>15299519
>I genuinely think Maestro and Alibi were good additions
My problem with Maestro is that a good portion of attackers flat out cannot destroy an Evil Eye if it doesn't open. In a game where having vision of an area is one of, if not the most important things, I feel that's too good.
>Alibi
Unless you're a shield op, target identification isn't really a practical possibility with such a low TTK. If they removed the recurring markers that you get when shooting one I might be okay with it, although that'd make pretending to be a hologram much more dangerous.
9a73f0 No.15299805
>>15299519
Echo's passive upset me at first, and it most likely was made like that out of laziness, but it also kinda makes sense cause his drones are the only camera dokki get's no access to when she hacks them.
>>15299627
I think maestro's turrets are fine. They are like mira windows, only three ops in the game can really open/destroy those and yet it's balanced the same, you have to expose yourself to take any offensive action. So they're more of a deterrent. My only problem with him, and more so echo, is that they really power creep valkyrie pretty hard.
55dcd6 No.15300087
>>15292886
Static Shock took too much HRT.
55dcd6 No.15300094
>>15297804
>unironically defending F2P mechanics present in freemium korean mmos
GOOD GOY
8a3caa No.15300378
>>15299805
A blown Mira window can cripple a defensive layout, plus with some creativity and map knowledge anyone can get an angle on most common spots by shooting out the floor/ceiling. High-risk, high-reward. The only way an evil eye can harm your defense is if Doki hacks you and no one has an impact.
600a36 No.15300418
>>15300378
> The only way an evil eye can harm your defense is if Doki hacks you and no one has an impact.
Or if maestro dies and didn't know to reset his cams into a good line of site after using them
8a3caa No.15300525
>>15300418
Even then, it's simple a lesser asset rather than a liability.
af6403 No.15300677
>>15300094
>F2P mechanics
>it’s just cosmetic
This is your brain on nu/v/
600a36 No.15300729
>>15300677
>just cosmetic
mostly cosmetic, purchasing DLC operators, including year 1 operators still costs 25k funbucks or 600 silver funbux that cost real money. now of course you can't just buy 600 silver funbux either you have to get them in packs of arbitrary numbers so you can get suckered into double-buying a pack if you don't check your math right when you wanna buy two operators. false currency needs to fucking stop because I'd be more willing to pay 1.99 for some item if I was a smoothbrain who bought cosmetics than i would be willing to pay 7.99 for a pack of funbux pack that always leaves you with too little leftover funbux to buy more than one item
9a73f0 No.15300745
>>15300729
>this practice needs to stop because it punishes smart consumers and gives companies more money
Not defending it, but certainly you must realize why it'll never stop and why it was put in place at all right?
25e1fc No.15301033
>>15300729
Yeah but operators get unlocked by playing the game…the cosmetic are shit if not outright worst on gameplay BB top hat, thatcher futuristic mask, hibana ghost
I much rather have operator that unlocks with level so it force you to play the game and gitgud rather then open the wallet for the best one frost and thermite and just buy it but I guess this is the best choice between the two
8a3caa No.15301310
>>15301033
>this is the best choice between the two
No you stupid motherfucker, the best choice would not to arbitrarily lock operators behind a timewall. The 'best choice' between someone leaving you be and them shitting in your mouth is not having them 'just' piss in your mouth. Stop defending terrible practices.
ed67dc No.15301437
>>15290841
>Tainting Samurai Jack with an Emoji
Emoji's are for sub-humans.
Use a Question mark symbol you absolute nigger.
8efab3 No.15301455
>>15301033
Objectively, the best choice would be free operators, but paid cosmetics out the ass, but that doesn't make money.
dc3b11 No.15301529
Ops like Dokk, Lion and Finka pretty much ruined the game for me. On top of the terrible fucking network and bugs. Even the menu system is still slow as fuck. Operators with these no risk global abilities make no sense, and just makes the game so fucking annoying to play.
dc3b11 No.15301551
Also
>New operator is literally straight outta Africa stronk independnt black womyn that's also "British".
Somehow her riot control abilities translates into defending areas from actual operators. Makes total sense. I guess they didn't have enough niggers in the game. They should probably add another Jew in the game as well.
ed67dc No.15301609
>>15297804
>why pay to have the operators
>when after 5h of game you have more than enough of it to unlock the operator
>Your mentality is fucking retarded. You barely have any problem with renown unless it’s for skins which make you just a flaming faggot to care about it
No, you're the one mentally fucking retarded.
I'm not talking about the original operators, that shit was so easy to get Ubisoft made all of them free in an update.
I'm talking about the DLC operators who get added in, are OP for 1 month, then get nerfed bit by bit until the redditors stop whining. (See case study: Ela)
Those DLC operators cost 25k renown. You get about 200 renown on average per game. That divides out to around 125 games for 25k renown. A game is between 10-20 minutes on average, lets say 15 minutes per game. 15 minutes times 125 is just under 32 hours.
32 hours for just ONE fucking character. I'm not spending 4+ days playing the same. fucking. game. for one character whose stats will be nerfed anyways. So I say fuck that and find ways to hack in money so my time is not wasted. I don't use aimbot or anything in actual matches because that would take the fun out of the game. I don't hack for competitive reasons, I hack when a game is Jewing me. Unfortunately all the renown data is stored in Ubi's servers now and they nerfed the amount you could make from terrorist hunt, so I've just left the game to it's fate.
dc3b11 No.15301675
>>15301609
It goes a lot faster if you do challenges. I was getting 15k renown every 24 hours using the terrorist hunt exploit. Not sure if it still works. I used a shitty laptop that I never used and used a macro key program to loop terrorist hunt games over and over again. Games only give you around 35 renown but that shit adds up and you can just leave it on overnight and not have to worry about it. Haven't tried it in months since I have most of all the OPs now.
21c1b5 No.15301708
>>15290876
I miss when the teams were almost all white men
I'm tired of seeing all these women and shitskins forced in as unlikable characters into literally everything
dc3b11 No.15301712
>>15301708
And the strongest OP in the game is a fucking Jewish women that hasn't been nerfed since day 1 other than a slight damage nerf to the R4-C.
2710fa No.15301726
>>15301708
I miss when teams used to look like operators. Now they wear yoga pants, shorts, and have a fully exposed head.
b49981 No.15302700
>>15301310
>waaaaaah why can’t I have free shit? Why do I have to play the game to have it all unlocked
>why I can’t use all operator even if I only have 20min of time in the game?
I bet you complain also about new game + being locked
b49981 No.15302721
>>15301675
>>15301609
As the anon above said. If you play the challenges you get 250/500/1k renown on how “difficult” is the challenge aka play the game and win 8 round with this operator
I’ve never had problem on renown and new OP and never even had to spend nearly as much time as you claim….
e82a5c No.15302971
0aedbc No.15304874
>>15302700
In your mind having access to the same tactical options in a competitive multiplayer game is the same as an expanded singleplayer? If you had been in charge of TF2, would half the classes be behind a pay/timewall? If Starcraft made you play for months to unlock all the units would that be fine? CSGO, probably the most popular game that's easily comparable to Siege does the 'smart' thing and makes it's post-purchase money from skins, not gameplay elements.
>free shit
You paid for the game.
>why I can’t use all operator even if I only have 20min of time in the game?
Funny, I remember people using that same defense for the base operators, but then ubisoft made the one good choice and made them all free.
91cd7d No.15309252
>>15291160
>good
lel you are a faggit.
That said, there is a discount on siege, that game worth buying? The complete edition is still 60 bucks, which is a lot considering it's 50% off. I am looking at the dlc and there is a freaking 3 year pass which kinda puts me off. Does that mean I have to constantly pay for new content?
61f42c No.15309282
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>>15301529
The new attacker op will probably get a blowtorch to carve killholes through reinforcements, making him like a Mira but on the attacker's side. Though I largely foresee him being used mostly to draw dicks or swastikas on walls, which will be hilarious given Ubisoft's recent attempts against muh toxicity
The last season and this one appear to be an improvement, gameplay-wise at least. New ops look like they might change up the meta instead of being PRESS F TO CAUSE EARTHSHAKE faggotry-tier ops that Dokki/Lion/Finka were. The new ops of previous and this season also look more on the realistic tacticool side, so that's nice
>>15309252
I just noticed they started a free weekend, so you can try it out for free and see for yourself. Do note that free weekends are populated with absolute shitters (including yourself), so
>Does that mean I have to constantly pay for new content?
Season passes only give you free early access to new operators, some gay cosmetics, and some credit boosters probably. Regular edition players can still get new operators, but only one week after they're released, and you have to grind in-game currency by playing the game to get access to new ops
9a73f0 No.15309299
>>15309252
Do not purchase this game.
61f42c No.15309534
>>15309524
Oh great, I was trying to shill the game and then a cuckchan retard like you rolls in. Who the fuck put you on this planet?
9a73f0 No.15309536
>>15309524
>ou look like a retarded racist for pretending like you care.
Go back to wherever you came from.
b70203 No.15317908
>>15301310
>>15302700
Its about money, but also about progression but mainly about money. Unlockables are a FPS staple CY+3 and they're there to keep the skinner box operational.
600a36 No.15318330
>>15309282
>he last season and this one appear to be an improvement, gameplay-wise at least.
I think maestro and alibi were really good, maverick looks potentially good, clashes design is terrible but it's tough to tell if they'll play well or not. I wouldn't put it past ubi to not think a defensive shield through and anyone using her will just camp in the objective corner like montagne on a defuser
61f42c No.15323578
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>>15318330
Maverick looks really good, his slow burning times should balance out the fact that he can carve through any reinforced wall. Though I think most people will pick him to draw dicks and swastikas, which can be hilarious in its own right depending on who it pisses off. Being able to carve a hole through reinforced walls and then place a claymore next to the wall sounds like it'll open up a whole heap of interesting strategies.
Clash not being able to melee with her shield or quickly pull out a sidearm like Blitz and Monty can does seem like it will balance out her being a defending shield op and a roaming one at that, though that taser range and charge looks kind of OP. At least having a defending shield op might push noob attackers to think more in terms of flanking and map knowledge, though I foresee a lot of matches where Clash is the last one standing and everyone is just trying to get her shield down, like when Montagne is the last attacker remaining and has backed himself into a corner. At the very least it'll make stun grenades more useful in retrospect.
61f42c No.15323581
>>15323578
also what the fuck is this profile picture
ca1aeb No.15323623
>>15317924
This image has no place in threads about objectively shit games from objectively shit developers/publishers. It's just used by retards to bitch about people calling them out on being retarded faggots. Buying Ubisoft shit, especially SJW-pandering shit, means that you need to be treated like garbage at all times.
600a36 No.15323643
>>15323578
maverick looks fantastic now that I see the torch in motion, his guns look fun too. yeah the issue with clash is still that she'll be able to hold a corner on a OBJ, but obviously not as strongly as montagne can, the range on the taser looks fucking excessive. They didn't explain how protective it is against explosives either, can it withstand a direct hit from ash's breaching round or what?
>>15323581
I don't know what the hell they were thinking, her bald ass head just makes her look like an unfinished character model
d8d1af No.15323937
I think the game is pretty fun. No idea why people are complaining about being TKed, I've literally had it happen twice in 320 hours of gameplay.
600a36 No.15323974
>>15323937
>No idea why people are complaining about being TKed
it happens, more often in casual than ranked obviously but ranked setlist sucks dick and is more prone to hackers. The complaint is more based off ubisofts water brained idea of "toxicity control' where they autoban "fag" and "nibba" but you can still easily get away with griefing tactics
>join a game with a 4stack, instantly kicked out before I'm even loaded in
>join a game with a 4stack, don't go recruit meme so get TK'd or voted out because "LMAO DOOD IT'S CASUAL PLAY THE MEME TEAM"
>some faggot gets pissed off so he can pick caveira on defense, down every guy on his team and exit the match unpunished forcing you to lose a round
"dude why are you trying hard in casual" is the most shitter thing I've ever heard on earth. Just because the setlist isn't ranked doesn't mean you shouldn't try to win.
9a73f0 No.15324161
>>15323578
Both have really neato gadgets and guns, and hereford looks okay. Maverick's design is fucking rad, but why the fuck does clash have to looks so awful? Cause her gadget seems fun, just letting you be a big defensive trolling monty, but she looks awful. Hopefully we can get a balaclava headgear for her or something.
600a36 No.15324222
>>15324161
>but she looks awful.
let's pretend making a bald brittish woman isn't a grab for goodie points and look at it on it's own merits and she looks unfinished. she doesn't look like she has a razor shaved head it looks like the hair didn't load in. She also doesn't have an operator from her respective unit which makes her more out of place seeming. Top it off with her character card looking like an icon for a mobile defense game
600a36 No.15324259
>>15324222
let me CHECK myself and follow up here, while I'm thinking about it. What's the deal with the design teams in this game it's like they change them each season after op health
>jackal and mira are a little sci-fi looking but match one another
>op health
>blood orchi, Yings armor looks nice, Leison doesn't match her at all but he's so charming in his own stupid way everyone lets it slide, but then they introduce ELA who's dyed hair is wildly offputting from an otherwise unoffensive design (compression pants are up for question)
>white noise, Vigil looks great and simple, dokkebai shows up with the most obnoxious design in the game, Zofia is very regular looking and matches Ela to an extent
>chimera, lion and finka are in BRIGHT YELLOW hazmat suits but thematically they did think about matching one another
>parabellum, maestro and alibi are great designs, I have no issues with them whatsoever
and then its grim sky where i feel it's back to blood orchid/white noise days where you get one good design and one terrible one
36347f No.15324339
>>15324161
If you're a goy pass owner you get a hat for her.
9a73f0 No.15324377
>>15324339
>goy pass
>implyign
I'm sitting on 100k renown and have all the ops. I play more than enough to buy the DLC ops as they come out.
600a36 No.15324382
>>15324377
>tfw had season pass last year because I thought the roadmap was going to be legitimate, shows me for trusting the jews
>accumulated well over 200k renown from playing and not having to buy those ops
>already back at 200k and have all ops
The cosmetic options are so garbage there's nothing else to spend renown on anyway
b584a3 No.15324713
female characters do not belong in combat games
8271fb No.15324730
>>15281516
Thanks for the higher resolution.
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>>15324713
They exist for another reason
985b24 No.15326228
>>15281232
But Rainbow 6 always had heros anon-kun
I cant still (almost) remember the crew names I would use in Rouge Spear:
>D. Baider (sniper/germany),
>something Chavez (assault/USA?)
and some Israeli chick as backup (long before I went to /pol/)
The roster was long as fuck though, I'll have to read the book and see if they name all the names
985b24 No.15326231
>>15289295
>cant pick your fucking map
>in the current year
bdebef No.15326558
>>15281175
>Team Killing effect you and everyone you know in game
Don't fucking do it , or answer something that won't result in more censorship , They will call it anti TK and put all kinds of bullshit they can under that name
Criticize the game , remove from match ,Call someone who is afk or doing something stupid a name , removed from match ,teamkill some mic blasting faggot ,You know that's a banu
Don't give them excuses men ,this can't end well
bdebef No.15326570
>>15292889
>Why don't people just not play nu-games?
That's a bad approach ,real question is "why nu-people even play games" ,You send these faggots to any game they will suck and do stupid shit
Send the devs or admins to any other game ,they will start censoring and fuck it up,choose any game you enjoy and they would turn it into what you don't like ,
this is the same as"the gun did it" argument
bdebef No.15326683
>>15289600
If you care about opinion on another game , The problem described here is not RSS it's every game you ever play ,If you are the type of person who cares for anything trolls seem like inferior creature who make you question
"why would you ever do things against your team",Same things happen to me in Squad ,there is a lot of people who came to the game to use it as skype with extra activities
What are you some kind of now funs faggot? ,there are times for that ,but openly working to make your team loose is just stupid ,there are people who refuse to get better and will shittalk any who give them advice on how to be better
and then go to devs to cry about "toxic" or "balance" .Everyday i hear someone say "this map sucks" when they loose ,instead of getting better and using the map or known spots to their gain
Like people will cry"thing X always happen in place Y" but never think to try and counter that
…same advice I give to anyone asking if BF4 is still worth it .Bring people who care ,not your buddies ,but people who actually want to play ,possibly /pol/acks
Yesterday I got the pleasure to experience Squad when not just 5 or 9 people work together but when a team of 27-multiple squads work together(all siting in one discord) ,We didn't pull of the most crazy shit but when you remove the
bullshit of random public players ,mic blasting and trolling it's easier to enjoy the game
629ebf No.15326704
Incidentally, can someone point me to some of these epic rage montages of R6S players on Jewtube?
bdebef No.15326817
>>15323974
>why are you trying
I hate this just for how jewish it sounds
ba7170 No.15326860
>>15326704
Why it's probably all just 'DUDE TEAMKILLIN LMAO' and the video maker acting like a retarded faggot solely to annoy his teammates.
4a9961 No.15327826
>>15326228
>he doesn't remember Ding Chavez, the greatest operator known to man
64a576 No.15330237
>Morowa Evans led the fight in her community against racist groups in often-violent clashes.
>her
>racist groups
>People will still give Jewbisoft shekels for this pozzed trash
ba7170 No.15330289
>>15330237
>Morowa Evans led the fight in her community against racist groups in often-violent clashes
>racist groups
The biggest threat to niggers in britbong is other niggers with knifes.
670017 No.15333445
>>15323974
>voted out before loading
That’s to avoid waiting a fuckload of time and still be 4v5 anyway…..
>meme team
I fucking hate that.
>cav down the team and leave
Tons of times I’ve reported that. The only answer from ubishit was “lol who cares? Got proofs upload it on a jew tube so we can still do fuck all”
9e4ff8 No.15334381
I moved r6 to my buyers remorse category about 6 months ago. Need to install it when I get home.
effe29 No.15335265
>>15281232
Well what if they had a Recruit-only gamemode? Also, requesting that image of the personality types of the player for each operator.
d8d1af No.15335473
>>15281183
one of these things is not like the other, one of these things are much easy to do
297eee No.15335546
>>15335287
Its funny how even after so long that chart is still valid
d8d1af No.15335572
>>15335473
>much easy
english hard
600a36 No.15335720
>>15335473
autismo is going to need a buff one of these days
9a73f0 No.15335776
>>15335720
why? The only comparable op to him is vigil, and while his guns and impacts are a little better, his gadget is pretty useless in comparison.
617760 No.15335792
R6S is fun with a squad of two or more friends. but what game isn't Good teammates turns a shit experience into a at least partially tactical experience, speaking from a monty main's perspective.
600a36 No.15335821
>>15335776
I'm speaking of jeagers gadget specifically. Fuze will power right through it they're so big and noisy they get destroyed no matter where you hide them. At the same time just typing this out makes me wanna try holding on to the ADS till closer to the end of the match to hold that last anchor down BUT that goes against jaegers 3speed nature
0d8068 No.15335891
>>15281175
you need to find a 2-3 good players that play consistently in order to actually even play this fucking game. For 2 seasons I toiled away in ranked playing on solo queue or with 1 other guy and then this season I just upped my team to always have at least 3 or more speaking the same language before I was able to hit platinum.
Casual sucks because of all these hidden weird matchmaking mechanics
"Game oh your level 200 so in casual let's just put you against diamonds and plats all day"
You are not allowed to have fun with
I'm guessing OP is stuck in low level/copper hell and can't get out.
>>15289600
It's more like you need more than 500 hours in this game even if you are familiar with other shooters. Due to the volatile matchup nature, map knowledge(angles) and hidden angles make vertically or through bangable walls, and unique character traits this game can make anyone really gunshy and feel absolutely overwhelmed by bullshit. Game sense takes a while to adapt to because they keep adding characters with new utilities. Someone might easily play the game against a balanced team maybe 1-2 3 speed characters plus trap/anchors but once they deal with a whole team of trap characters, hard anchors and information characters like having maestro echo doc mute valk etc. they get fucked.
It's like playing a fighting game/shooter at the same time.
>>15309252
IDK I wouldn't recommend siege really to anyone. You are going to have to wade through waves and waves of reddit and retardation before you can actually understand the game and actually play it at a competent level. It's a lesson in insanity but I think it's probably the most strategic shooter just due to the nature of the gadgets and gunfight psychology(when you actually get good and understand how to play a map it's kind of like playing paintball you just move from obstacle to obstacle and peeking from different angles and prefiring on people)
>>15326817
"And let me guess the next thing you are going to say is why are you trying"
"And the next thing you are going to say is 1v1 me you are trash"
There should be a debate flowchart for rainbow six scrubs
>>15326228
This I wish the game was expanded enough to have an actually good campaign with operator permadeath. Maybe that could come one day in the future but I doubt it just due to Ubi's horrible AI. Their bots in terrorist hunt basically exist to be walking targets and when you up the difficulty they are still just targets who can shoot alot better.
>>15335821
that's because jagers ADS only burns 1 projectile fuze shoots 3 in one burst. You shouldn't try to stop fuze charges with ADS anyway you should just have someone playing above sight or have cameras above site etc. etc. etc. so you don't get fuzed. Jaegers ADS I guess can be used to stop fuze(but why would you do that anyway) if you kept stacking them on top of each other but you really want them to just stop smoke grenades and frags.
9a73f0 No.15335931
>>15335891
jager's ADS actually gets two nades per ADS.
600a36 No.15335951
>>15335891
>For 2 seasons I toiled away in ranked playing on solo queue
I feel you, although I don't even bother with ranked because I don't like first-to-4 games
>tfw have been playing since year 1, roughly around the middle of Dust Line
>over a thousand hours, almost all of them solo que
>the guy I used to play with I had to stop playing with completely because he would scream and freak out in discord and yell at our matched teammates over trivial shit like not giving him defuser
said screaming was the worst because I play siege with my headphones at high volume to follow footsteps
0d8068 No.15335996
>>15335931
yea I meant to write 2 but using jager to avoid burn charges is pretty much an excercise in futility. You are just going to die there is no point just go upstairs and kill him.
>>15335951
It's hard to keep people because people care so much about their rank they just freak out when they lose and can't handle it and get really fucking mad. Also since the way the game is played is constantly changing it's hard to keep a consistent roster of people to play with since so many people decide to stop playing. I almost quit during Chimera because Lion+Blitz was such an OP bullshit combo and you would encounter these 2 shitters in literally every ranked game until they balanced lion.
600a36 No.15336023
>>15335996
>operation chimera
>ENEMY DRONE DROPPING FOR SCAN
>HOLD 5 TO TURN OFF PHONE
>YOU ARE BEING TRACKED
>[shield sounds growing closer]
0d8068 No.15336398
>>15336023
the worst part was that once you were tagged you were pretty much fucked for that whole period and if you survived well you are already surrounded.
I can't imagine that he originally had 3 uses of that fucking gadget.
600a36 No.15336443
>>15336398
>I can't imagine that he originally had 3 uses of that fucking gadget.
TTS never works, everyone was saying 'it's strong as shit, his gun is really good, and if he's alive when bomb plants his advantage is impossible to beat" and they didn't fix that before launch and waited for it to be live to hear the same thing and nerf him. TTS is a dogshit testing ground too because it's completely fucking lawless. everyone scrambled to first pick the new operators, then teamkills and leaves when they don't get them
4998d4 No.15336574
>>15336023
>still no option to throw your phone away or at the very least break it when Doki is on the attackers
9a73f0 No.15336632
>>15336574
Well, you can break your ally's phone when they die.
600a36 No.15336636
>>15336574
I feel like that woulda been a good solution, you lose access to your own cams but can't get buzzed, adds an element to roaming.
f81448 No.15337599
>>15330237
Racist groups? Who? The Muslims?
61f42c No.15338337
>1v1 situation with me being a Montagne on 6HP in 2F House and having capped the objective by almost 95% until some Caveira steps in
>we stare eachother down for like one minute as she's trying to find an opening in my defense with the beds preventing her from outright circling me, while I'm trying to push her out of the room so I can cap the point safely
>teammates start bitching about me doing fucking nothing
>eventually Caveira screws up and sets foot outside the cap as I instantly capture it
>"fell for it"
f81448 No.15338365
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Remember the E3 reveal and how cringey it was?
ed67dc No.15338417
>>15338365
I don't know which was worse the "gamer talk" or the potato tier aiming.
I feel like the only reason this game became popular is because COD and battlefield left the modern era to do goofy future shit and no other game has come along that's done the Modern Tactical Shooter formula competently.
f81448 No.15338428
>>15338417
Who cares about the modern tactical shooter formula anymore? If you want tacticool, get some buddies and play ARMA 3 with a bunch of mods installed.
31d3f0 No.15338434
>>15338428
>ARMAIII
>when you could be playing any of the NovaLogic games with your friends for free
f81448 No.15338444
>>15338434
Already bought it, might as well play it. But that is a valid point and works too if you don't have ARMA 3
7129f5 No.15343027
>buy poverty edition for russian rubles
>learn the game through nothing but recruit spam because >jewbisoft
>200 hours in
>pretty confident with the game, 200k renown banked, 0 operators unlocked
>game is still fun
I don't get all the hate, the game is pretty tacticool.
9a73f0 No.15343033
>>15343027
>200k renown banked, 0 operators unlocked
but why?
7129f5 No.15343062
>>15343033
I dunno, i guess i never got bored of playing recruit
plus it eventually became a meme to not have any ops
fe161e No.15343106
>>15304874
>>15301310
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And some of them are so dependent on the game for a dopamine rush, so helplessly inert, that they will fight to protect it.
646dbd No.15343137
>>15343062
First I'm hearing of it
>>15343027
That's because recruit a best especially shotgun roaming defend and shield atracker
86e62b No.15343934
>>15343106
>(1)
>they aren’t woke
Yep that’s an ancient shitposting
fe161e No.15344719
>>15343934
Being used to getting charged for gameplay elements doesn’t mean there is no way a game can be different. There is no benefit to the player to have important parts of the gameplay locked away. If they want people to not to be overwhelmed they could make tutorials or have community made ones available ingame. If they want a sense of progression they could keep unlocking to a single player mode. If they want to make money they would make more from selling skins if every character was available so people wouldn’t buy skins for things they haven’t unlocked. The only reason someone would defend this business practice is that they don’t think a game can survive without being this greedy. Ubisoft has no confidence that the gameplay is fun enough to sell so they lock something important for the gameplay behind a paywall. Having all the operators available is not a disadvantage and if someone is overwhelmed they can just decide to play the few they are comfortable with. Having less operators puts you at a disadvantage because less strategies are available and people who are used to this defend it because they think its only a small disadvantage. The original lion shows that even one more character is a huge advantage when they are overpowered and paying for him on release was an easy way to win yet the game isn’t considered pay to win for allowing this to be possible. The recent designs have been bad and Ubisoft is unlikely to change their business model when people will defend it to their own detriment. They are also willing to make banning for words a bigger priority than preventing team killing. The only people who think this game is okay turn a blind eye to the bad aspects. It looks hypocritical to point out one post if you only make one post yourself.
670017 No.15344996
>>15344719
>There is no benefit to the player to have important parts of the gameplay locked away
Yes there is, you have to gitgud….otherwise you end up with twitch player that instead of taking out cams information is the core of this game or ads or even fucking Mira windows zap random player to have the assist or Mira player reinforcing shit position becasue they don’t know what angle is the best to hold a room
>If they want people to not to be overwhelmed they could make tutorials or have community made ones available ingame
There is one, is the situation, you play with a different base operator and it explain to you what’s is deal and what are his down points
>If they want a sense of progression they could keep unlocking to a single player mode.
Which this game doesn’t have so what’s your point here?
>If they want to make money they would make more from selling skins if every character was available so people wouldn’t buy skins for things they haven’t unlocked.
The fact that lootbox gives you random shit on all OP makes idiotic people that want skins open more lootbox which makes more money
>Ubisoft has no confidence that the gameplay is fun enough to sell so they lock something important for the gameplay behind a paywall.
No they don’t….they ignored this game till operation health **and that’s clearly visible becasue lootbox, skins and OP new operator came along that period, which is in the same period for honor tank, AC got blown out from even the most hardcore fans and watch dogs 2 didn’t even get praised by the usual circlejerk of journous
>Having less operators puts you at a disadvantage because less strategies are available
Which goes back to my previous point. What’s the use of a shit Mira that doesn’t have map layout iron branded in their mind or a shit glaz that doesn’t have the most basic spawn peek spot in their scope?
>The recent designs have been bad and Ubisoft is unlikely to change their business model when people will defend it to their own detriment. They are also willing to make banning for words a bigger priority than preventing team killing.
(((Suits))) fault here buddy. Yet again most of your points are all post-operation health
>It looks hypocritical to point out one post if you only make one post yourself
It’s funny how buttblasted you are from one single thing, which means you want to be a (1) and done shitposter but still take this personally, I guess a normalfag place is more your style
4fe96f No.15345108
>>15281175
>Making fun of SLAVS
Get out of here, stalker
9ec261 No.15345152
>>15292886
Thank god i dropped this game.
fe161e No.15345195
>>15344996
You cant learn from something you cant play, so its not locking things to teach players. The situations are only for base ops and this isn't as in depth as an actual match. Its easier to learn how to play operators when you have them available. The previous games had single player and if they wanted a mode that taught players how to play they could attempt one instead of situations. You are calling me buttblasted but you are angry that I am not accepting gameplay being locked away. Everytime I suggest that they don't I get people telling me that Ubisoft can't afford to be like Dota or Counterstrike or that having characters unavailable is somehow helping them learn. Do you disagree with them making the base ops free? Is that reinforcing bad habits because people don't need to unlock them. You are saying I am taking this personally but you are defending this game as if I attacked your character. You are not even the same person I replied to but you are making all these assumptions about me and yet you are going to tell my that I am the one who is offended. Next you are going to link me to some board because you don't like disagreement. Also its foolish to think the development team doesn't make many of these choices considering its a Ubisoft studio. Many of the things EA did were started by DICE so developers show greed as well.
670017 No.15345274
>>15345195
No you dimwitted asslord…. what are you saying is that demigod difficulty in GoW which is locked only if you play the game once( on hard or extreme) or some areas on Batman games are locked for only NG+ are shit system becasue the dev wants you to play the game. You haven’t refused one single of my point, and instead you projected all this shit on me to the point you already know I will point you to another replace i bet becasue by your shit opinion a lot of other anons already do , and yet again I ask what good is a 0.3 hours lv2 Mira that still need to understand that there isn’t bunny hoping in the game and it isn’t CoD? If you are good you can use better and more complex operators, if you are a scrub stay on the recruit…. you are arguing that everything have to be ready on the spot becasue practice makes perfect. This game is the epitome of that and using a strong operator like echo, which is made 99% of callouts, but you don’t even fucking know the room you are in is like playing 4-5 already….or thermite and get sniped on spawn it’s even worst. While instead a easy operator like rook or ash you can be useful for the first 20 second of the match
That’s why everyone that played this game knows rook/Ash is the best op for new players….stop being a moron and actually use your brain
fe161e No.15345342
>>15345274
You are comparing the difficulty mode in a single player game to having everything that affects game play be unlocked in a multiplayer game. You keep talking about keeping it locked for noobs and yet the game isn't even balanced for them. If noobs are worried about too many operators they will just choose whats comfortable and they will get matched with other players who do the same. How will the Mira learn if they cant even play mira? The situations aren't good tutorials like an actual match is. They can make more money from having the characters available so that people will buy skins because there is no chance of them getting something they cant use. You keep saying that noobs wont know what to do in the beginning with an operator and yet its going to be slower if they cant play them themselves. You are calling me a moron and yet you don't get why it would be unfair for one team to have more operators than the other. You have not explained how locking teaches the game especially since you admit that people learn by playing. How are they supposed to learn something they can't play?
72dff6 No.15345951
Is Maveric going to fuck with the meta? Bandit and mute seem useless now that Maveric can burn a hole at the bottom of a wall to clear up gadgets. I think mira might be a decent counter, but it still feels like bullshit.
600a36 No.15346016
>>15345951
he can get rid of the gadgets but it only directly helps hibana because she can breach from a distance, the hole he makes could lead to thermite getting his feet shot out while placing the charge. once thing you could try though
>wall is muted
>place charge
>burn a hole and destroy the jammer, then detonate thermites charge
I don't see maveric replacing thatcher or twitch in gadget-busting meta. seems he'll operate best in funny flanking situations by making real sneaky kill holes. Honestly he looks like loads of fun to me, enough to make up for how dull Clash seems
4bb2ba No.15346046
>>15281463
stop, Jew, i know your tricks.
670017 No.15346317
>>15345342
Becasue they play the game, and unlock the operator that want to try and learn it you faggot, instead of picking an operator and do fuckall with him
You are acting as if the game have to be balance and welcome to noobs and that everyone have to cater to them. Fuck off, this game have one of the highes skill ceiling of the last decades on shooters…if you can’t gitgud stop asking to be it dumbed down and learn to play
Having operator lock doesn’t affect gameplay at all, it simple let you play in another way….the game is the same for everyone, this isn’t cod or kikefield that locks a certain weapon. If you play a 3speed isn’t suitable to hold anchor as much as 3 armor isn’t suited to roam around
Here’s your last (you) for the day faggot, actually play the game before posting
fe161e No.15346354
>>15346317
>not being able to play someone doesn’t affect gameplay
b74ac1 No.15346405
You forgot to mention that the teamkillers are even worse because they are not "conventional" TKers who do it for laughs, they are dudebro autists with uncontrollable blood pressure that scream on the mic at their whole team after they inevitably feed first blood in the first round, either so blinded by their sheer autism that they don't realize their yelling is just fucking annoying or (more frequently) spiteful towards their entire team for dying because his team didn't somehow prevent his dumb ass from dying after he intentionally went a totally different route because he is just that good. After ensuring as many of his team dies as possible by screaming at critical moments (i.e. when they are peeking around corners) he TKs everyone in spawn until he is kicked, especially if he is muted.
I've seen this behavior so many times it's fucking mind boggling. Siege had a surprising amount of fuckwits make the jump from console to PC for some reason and they carry their Xbox Live ape nigger mentality with them. Between that and the matchmaking, this game quickly lost its appeal for me and my even my friends who have far more mainstream taste.
600a36 No.15346498
>>15346405
>Siege had a surprising amount of fuckwits make the jump from console to PC for some reason and they carry their Xbox Live ape nigger mentality with them.
"YEAH BRO I WAS GOLD 2 ON XBOX".
I really wish the game had more matchmaking options, ranked setlist is not fun to me so I never play ranked, especially since I usually solo que so I'm not trying to coordinate with a 3-4 stack who's in their own private discord and ignoring my callouts and casual is full of shaved apes who think that non-ranked means "anyone who beats me is sweaty"
e84d57 No.15346871
>>15281175
>Siege
>Tactical
Play Raven Shield, even Vegas is more tactical than this cod-clone crap.
25430f No.15346912
>>15346871
Technically, it's CSGO with F2P grinding, iron sights, and diversity.
e84d57 No.15346924
>>15346912
>iron sights
Not that you'd notice, because they put red dots on every gun in the game, even ones that can't have them irl. I haven't played but I've seen some of the weapons and they just butcher everything about the design.
600a36 No.15346974
>>15346912
CSGO with actual breaching means. Use of drones alone make it better than CSGO. I'm willing to say many criticisms of siege are true but drones/reinforcements/cameras/hard and soft breaching make it a million times more enjoyable as a "tacticool" than CSGO
0d8068 No.15346978
>>15336636
>>15336574
everyone except anchors would just throw their phones away as soon as it rings and every round after that at the start in a 5 man team you only need 1 person to run cameras and gadgets I mean you really just need 1 echo in a safe place to run cameras and his yokai's to assist roamers and guard site. The reason why is because once your dead you can run cams and the first person who dies on defense just runs cams for the team so now no living player has to do that ever again. If you throw away your phone the punishment should be that you can't watch cams after death.
>>15338337
more reasons why secure area is a shit game mode
>>15338417
The only reason why this game is popular and the only reason why I play it is strictly because it's the only stable game with a large playerbase that tries to simulate a tac shooter. Sure I like playing games like Arma and Red Orchestra and all types of these "realistic tac shooters" but honestly they don't really work that well and are buggy as shit in comparison to rainbow which does have it's own host of problems but they aren't nearly as bad as the alternatives.
>>15344719
except you are fucking retarded because all you need are the base game operators anyway. Honestly if you haven't played the game before you don't need the 16 or so bonus "dlc" operators in this game. You can easily unlock them gradually anyway.
>Having all the operators available is not a disadvantage and if someone is overwhelmed they can just decide to play the few they are comfortable with. Having less operators puts you at a disadvantage because less strategies are available and people who are used to this defend it because they think its only a small disadvantage
All you need on attack is ash/sledge all you need on defense is doc/bandit. Of course of the og operators you can use more if these roles are already taken but you honestly really don't need that much. You can get to platinum by just playing these 2 operators. Until you get up to a level beyond platinum you don't need "Operator specific strategies"(and really when you are beyond platinum you still don't need it that's literally e-sports tier shit and it doesn't apply to 99 percent of people playing this game)
The only operator specific strategies that exist in the meta are "Reinforce this wall" "Bandit this" "Jam this" "Make rotation hole here" "Drone this out" "Push site" etc.
it's not like everyone is playing pro league and every team has optimal operator strategies for every map and pre/post plant scenarios and even if they did it's not like they can play at such an optimal level that you can't still beat them.
It doesn't take long to unlock bonus operators and honestly alot of bonus operators are just clones of existing operators with meme gadgets anyway. On defense you just have 2 3 speed characters(which are base game btw) with actual map essential utilities like Jaeger's ADS and Bandit's batteries, ever other 3 speed roamer is literally just a clone with a gimmick gadget,
Vigil: amazing weapons with a gadget that is not game essential because all he can do is hide from drones
Ela: Good gun grizmont mines used to be better but that's it
Cav: Gimmick character with silent step and op pistol
Alibi: Good guns but gimmick gadget
Most dlc ops are not essential GAME CHANGING ops besides dokkaebi/buck/lion/echo/mira that's about it. Every op is just a clone or a gimmick character. The only DLC ops that actually fuck with the meta of the game are the 5 I mentioned and maybe you could throw maestro in there because his evil eye is pretty much an immobile yokai but you use it for destroying breaching charges and fucking with people through smoke.
>>15344719
>The only people who think this game is okay turn a blind eye to the bad aspects
yet it's ok for every fighting game to have unlockable dlc? All those games are fucking shilled to high heaven on /v/ even tekken with meme ass Negan in it. But when ubisoft does it it's wrong. Or smash ultimate or any smash game where there is DLC that's somehow ok because it's the benevolent japanese nintendo fucks so it's cool that they are adding insert "not hype at all generic looking shitty character IN SMASH!!!"
That's alright with everyone but it's not ok when rainbow six does it for what is mostly not even essential content.
Obviously now I own all the ops but I don't use half of them. Most people just find like 4/5 mains they use and only flex pick when they have to or flex pick to fuck with the game strategy and try different things.
0d8068 No.15346989
>>15346871
except it's not vegas was "BANG BANG" cod but with less health. Do you even remember vegas and how broken that game was? The optimal playstyle was just go no armor and peek corners fast and try to hipfire shots. that's it. It was worse than COD.
600a36 No.15347013
>>15346978
> If you throw away your phone the punishment should be that you can't watch cams after death.
that too, for sure. deathwatching is pretty brutal, I sometimes feel that kill cam should be removed or have a playlist that doesn't include it because it sucks when you're roaming and even though you get a flank using suppressor you still gotta immediately relocate on the off chance the other team is being vocal and immediately tell their guys where you killed them from
>Alibi: Good guns but gimmick gadget
inadvertently a good gimmick because it very successfully slowed down rush strats.
e84d57 No.15347028
>>15346989
In Vegas you at least still had a couple guys you could order to go places, throw different grenades, breach doors etc., it had SOMETHING. Plus a nice degree of armor, clothing, and loadout customization. They certainly didn't charge you microtransactions for new pants.
42a094 No.15347038
>>15346924
I feel like that's less of a concern than the fact they took a straight blowback submachine gun and scaled it up to .308 with no thought or justification.
>>15346989
I'd say it's closer to Gears but with less health, and as such I vividly remember picking the automatic shotgun and winning every encounter I could eyeball until 90% of servers banned it.
0d8068 No.15347041
>>15346924
> because they put red dots on every gun in the game
Wtf are you talking about if I wanted to I could put a red dot sight on my argentine mauser but I don't want to. You can put a red dot sight on any gun you fucking muppet.
0d8068 No.15347054
>>15347028
>In Vegas you at least still had a couple guys you could order to go places, throw different grenades, breach doors etc., it had SOMETHING
That's single player though ubisoft won't ever do a real campaign for this game because they know they can't code AI for shit
646dbd No.15347097
>>15346871
this is nothing like cod its more like stripped swat u faggot
0d8068 No.15347149
>>15347097
Technically it's more like "Imagine playing a game like call of duty only you have to be good at the game because there is no slot machine bullshit spawn system and you have much more control over your movement options" The gunfights are insanely fast paced like COD but you have to have the intelligence to actually engage in the correct manner in order to pull COD type gameplay off. You have to know where to go, how to clear rooms, understand cross hair placement, prefiring common angles, and understand how to move from cover to cover "what is cover anyway in this game" etc. If you play this game like a retard you will just keep losing. I have personally seen "amazing" gunfighters stuck in the low golds and silver levels because even though they have insanely good gunfight psychology they aren't particularly good at actually attacking the site, working as a team, maximizing utility usage, and executing defusal plants.
fe161e No.15347309
>>15346978
Not everyone is in the proleague and often the game doesn’t find opponents of equal skill but locking characters creates an advantage beyond ingame knowledge. Right now you may think that no one is that important as dlc but that could change with balance patches. Ela, Zofia and Lion on release show that you can win easily by paying. The whole hero system misses out on the opportunity for people to write their own bios and choose more differing appearances. Ubisoft is also increasing the pandering with newer releases. You should also check out the fighting game general since there a lot of people against dlc characters. Tekken and Soul Calibur haven’t done it until now and Street Fighter has been doing it for a while but has been ridiculed for it very often, though the esports community will try to ignore it for prize money. I don’t know what people think of smash doing it since smash isn’t a fighting game. So it isn’t just Ubisoft getting called out on it. I would also consider operators as essential content as they are the other half of the gameplay content besides maps. I haven’t heard you say that certain maps aren’t essential to play the game.
600a36 No.15347356
>>15347309
>The whole hero system misses out on the opportunity for people to write their own bios and choose more differing appearances.
Well in a fucked up way it was more of a way to control loadouts, if it was full customization then everyone would just use fuzes gadget. Yeah you could easily just change them from characters into generic classes and customize them but i'll settle for characters on this one since ubisoft can't into cosmetics it seems.
0d8068 No.15347456
>>15347309
That's essentially the argument I was making though is that not everyone is in the pro league so most operators are non essential. Sure it would always be nice to have a blackbeard with me on coastline but I don't actually need him because I'm not in pro league. You don't actually need these DLC characters to get good and they are very easy unlocks it takes like 40 wins to get one on literally any level of the game you could just be a copper scrub and play ranked and get 40 wins and you still get the same amount of in game currency as someone who is platinum or diamond(is that really so fucking hard that a game expects you to just get a couple wins to unlock something that wasn't in the base game anyway and is non essential???)
>>15347356
I think the hero system exists because I played vegas and I remember a very certain loadout being played the most and it was just no armor plus good auto+good pistol because it gave you the best advantage in a fight. If everyone had customized loadouts what would happen is literally everyone would have dok/vigils smg 12 as their secondary and their primary weapon of choice(probably a fucking R4C), grenades, some sort of hard or soft breach/emp and that's it. Everyone would have the same armor loadouts and speeds and whatnot and the game would be totally imbalanced and in favor of 1 class.
600a36 No.15347542
>>15347456
>and their primary weapon of choice(probably a fucking R4C
I sorta wish some one other than Fuze had his AK sometimes, I really like that gun but of course I don't wanna bring him to hostage mode
0d8068 No.15347576
>>15347542
They should give someone an AK. They had an opportunity to add a cool russian operator in this game that could of had multiple AK variations but instead we got the abortion that is Finka with her fake ass concept gun and her cancerous ability. I wish the russians could use normal sights though chances are even if they release a russian op with cool weapons I won't use him because the weird russian sights.
600a36 No.15347590
>>15347576
>I wish the russians could use normal sights though chances are even if they release a russian op with cool weapons I won't use him because the weird russian sights.
ha, funny because I much prefer the russian reflex sight to just about every other choice in the game
0d8068 No.15347647
>>15347590
I just think the russian acog is a piece of crap. I can't stand all the unnecessary lines and circles. The standard acog sight let's me understand the recoil pattern but the weird russian sight just fucks with my vision.
bdebef No.15347654
>>15346405
>dudebro autists with uncontrollable blood pressure that scream on the mic
You know what's the worst part , Those fuckers act the same way in every game(screaming Medic like I can teleport,deflect bullets and revive in an instant) ,They come to a game because it's good(without them) , they heard it's good, and then they ruin it with their bullshit
This kind of people made me believe genocide is the only solution
600a36 No.15347672
>>15347647
Ah I never use russian ACOG, in fact I only use ACOG on DMRs most of the time save for a select few maps, I go holo or reflex for most weapons. And red dot for low rate-of-fire guns like frosts and cavs, I can't explain that it just works better in my brain on those ones
0d8068 No.15347675
>>15347654
The worst is undoubtedly always the autistic spic who rages then on defense he will go cav and then downs the whole team and runs around in circles before getting blown the fuck up.
600a36 No.15347719
>>15347675
I'll usually tough out a whole match even if some idiot quits or team kills, but if some faggot does that I'll just exit and go back to que instead because he's purposely trying to waste my time, of course this behavior is far more "toxic" than saying 'haha my nigga" in chat but ubisoft will never fucking understand
0d8068 No.15347726
>>15347672
I pretty much always use the acog when it's available it's just alot easier to spot moving objects and essential the way I play is I just move from position to position and go into sights and try to peek I just find it easier if you have acog when you are in a peeking battle with someone. Alot of people use holos and reflexes on their guns now instead of acog so maybe the whole myth of acog superiority is busting but I still use it over everything given the option.
600a36 No.15347744
>>15347726
It boils down to personal preference/eyesight I feel. Since I try to play flanks a lot I feel reflex is ideal since i try to get into mid/close range more often
6e29f4 No.15348864
>>15347726
Acog is the tool of the lazy pixel hunter.
670017 No.15349303
>>15347013
Yep. It worked better than the fucking invisible traps of lesion
f81448 No.15349569
>>15346978
How is Buck game changing? Don't get me wrong I like the OP, I main Buck because of that slick ass FN FAL, but how is he game changing?
61f42c No.15349690
>>15349569
his shotgun attachment means he can rip open breakable floors and ceilings and then peek through them using his regular rifle, most ops either need to place a breaching charge first which is audible and slow, or rip it open with their own shotgun only to not be able to make use of it as much because they have to use a shotgun instead of a proper rifle
c585a6 No.15349820
>>15323581
she looks like she's on bath salts about to eat a dude's face
f81448 No.15349883
>>15349690
Alright that's fair, but I don't see it that gamechanging.
600a36 No.15352099
>>15349690
he's just an alternate version of sledge, who can do the same thing with his hammer, a lot of the year 1 DLC ops were just alternate versions of existing ops. I wouldn't call buck a game changer at all
buck - sledge with extra distance but less uses
frost - at the time, a nonlethal but harder to detect kap-trap
black beard - alternative shield
hibana - alternative thermite
I'd argue that year 1 DLC ops need to have their prices reduced or something though. hibana and valkyrie in particular are useful on just about any scenario
f81448 No.15353695
>>15323581
That's one angry Wakandan
9a73f0 No.15353750
>>15352099
>buck is sledge
He's ash.
600a36 No.15353757
>>15353750
let's settle for hybrid, since he has frags, 2armor, and fast soft-breach capability i'd still compare him more to sledge in practice though
baa2d2 No.15353861
>>15353750
ash is a ranged breaching charge
buck is a double primary combo for easy swapping between ranged soft breaching shotgun and hard hitting rifle
>>15323581
its so out of place compared to every other operator, it's not even funny
>>15349303
rushes will still happen if 4 people are roaming off site– which happens often
600a36 No.15353868
>>15353861
>it's not even funny
she looks like a mobile game thumbnail. thematically the entire SAS team outshines her in design and personality (although limited in this game) so even if she was a regular ugly english woman instead of a black english, she'd still just seem like a dumb and watery design when thatcher/smoke do english stereotypes in a more amusing way, and the SAS designs in this game are all solid
baa2d2 No.15353891
>>15353868
she's not even part of the SAS, they just picked off a random ex-rioter now riot officer from the streets of london and added her to a prestigious tactical squad then handed her a high tech shield.
>Morowa Evans led the fight in her community against racist groups in often-violent clashes.
600a36 No.15353903
>>15353891
reminder that this is what the actual scotland yard special tactics team looks like
600a36 No.15353920
>>15353903
It's extra frustrating because you can see that they actually did some research on most of the units in early years, GSG-9 was based off images of quick response german units, ignore the filename because I think it turned out these weren't actual GSG-9 but a similar unit, but it's why they wear jeans and casual clothes under their gear. The new guy maverick is based off some obscure images of delta force guys so why ignore actual scotland yard special tactics?
and of course theres dokkebai and ELA just completely ignoring GROM/707 aesthetics
95c71e No.15354400
600a36 No.15354499
>>15354400
exactly. HELL I'd be willing to say 'whatever' to making her black english if they at least gave her the uniform scotland yard swat guys use. ash/IQ/twitch/frost/valk/mira/alibi although unrealistic female operators are unoffensive as character designs because they match their respective units Even hibana and caveira aren't that bad because they match up with capitao/echo. I really don't care if they want female characters, the game isn't going for ULTRA REALISM so they can have some fun with it but Ela/Dok/clash just feel like inserts or diversity hires instead of thought out designs
cc30ca No.15354792
>>15354499
I wish BOPE Operators were Pic Related
91595c No.15354839
>>15354792
>BOPE in real life
>Swat unit
>known to be somewhat brutal but that's because it's fucking Brazil
>use somewhat outdated equipment
>BOPE in Siege
>madman deathsquad using stone age equipment and rape to stop terrorism
600a36 No.15355486
>>15354792
the influence is there on Cap, who i desperately wish would get a mild buff because I kinda like playing him
f81448 No.15356285
>>15354499
But look at those skin tight leggings
600a36 No.15356351
>>15356285
I mean no doubt I'd fuck the bajeezus outta Ela but she's still a bad design
b66974 No.15356396
>>15354792
Those movies are great, i wish my country still had deathsquad operators to clean the favelas.
>>15354839
FALs will never be outdated you cunt, right weapon of the free world!
f81448 No.15356529
>>15356351
Only dumb thing is her green hair but in general, if I want to suck a fart out of her ass it's a good design in my opinion.
91595c No.15357465
>>15356396
>right weapon of the free world
>calling me a cunt
It's the right HAND of the free world, you double nigger.
91595c No.15357494
>>15357465
>hand
Oh boy am I retarded.
Right Arm of the Free World.
cc30ca No.15357641
>>15356396
Doesn't BOPE still operates like a Deathsquad? i mean i doubt they'll go lenient on criminals
b66974 No.15357674
>>15357641
Im not brazilian, my country had police deathsquads too until the late 90s.
cc30ca No.15357683
>>15357674
What country and damn, Is it because of Commie Fucks?
600a36 No.15357739
>>15357641
they're still pretty controversial but they've upped their image a bit. I think a lot of people started talking about it less because brazil is a fucking hellhole and they gotta do what they gotta do
b66974 No.15357751
>>15357683
Venezuela and yes, they purged the army and police from 2002 to 2006.
The reason you see such high crime rates in venezuela is because the goverment uses criminals to enforce terror upon citizens and kill dissidents/civilians withouth havign to deal with the international justice.
2dc8de No.15359117
9a73f0 No.15359569
>>15359117
I didn't even put that together until I saw this.
bc5f55 No.15361138
>>15326192
>first image
>someone actually downloaded the shit I reuploaded to R34
bc5f55 No.15361149
>>15356396
>FALs will never be outdated you cunt, right weapon of the free world!
You do realise he was talking about shit like Madsens that BOPE seized from favela niglets and ended up using themselves?
>>15357739
Is that an Asian BR (Jap perhaps) on the left in the front row?
>>15353920
>because I think it turned out these weren't actual GSG-9 but a similar unit
That's SEK, if memory serves. The difference is that GSG-9 is part of Bundespolizei (feds) whereas SEK units are part of their respective Landespolizei (state police, meaning that each federal land in Germany has its own separate SEK).
94a732 No.15361159
>tfw you want to play this game
>but don't want to give Ubisoft money
>nor do you want to get pozzed
fbb0f0 No.15361189
>>15361159
Get the poverty edition
Bonus points if you buy from a russian proxy
bc5f55 No.15361190
>>15361189
>poverty edition
Might as well suggest him to remove system32
fbb0f0 No.15361198
>>15361190
It's not that bad
600a36 No.15362374
>>15361189
absolutely under no circumstance get the poverty edition. wait for a sale, a free weekend, a keyseller, something if you wanna give this game a shot but don't get the scam version
600a36 No.15365085
>THATCHERS EMPS ONLY DISABLE CAMERAS IN TTS
>TWITCH DRONE LOUDER
jesus wept, sure it's just in the TTS but usually everything in them ends up going live
9a73f0 No.15365167
>>15365085
why are they so intent on neutering the anti-gadget ops?
91595c No.15365173
>>15365167
Twitch, because consolefags can't shoot a giant fucking briefcase drifting across the floor, and Thatcher, I really can't think of a reason why.
600a36 No.15365186
>>15365167
the twitch nerf was because apes on reddit couldn't deal with getting ass-zapped while camera hogging, and can't shoot a slow and fat drone that can't even jump. They even pulled out some horseshit statistic about how the average twitch player was only breaking "1.3 gadgets per round" which sounds like absolute horseshit to me and just punishing players who were good at hiding their drone
As for Thatcher what I assume the intention of only disabling cameras with EMP is so that Dokkebai will have more incentive to hijack cams
0d8068 No.15365274
>>15365085
it's worse than that the fake mac 11 is garbage and so are all the other machine pistols except the
>>15349569
It's very simple why buck is actually more game changing than people think it's because he
1. does not have to stand next to the soft panel he is breaching
2. he can blow up[ floors above you unlike sledge so there is a new method of pressuring opponents
Before only ash could do this and it was wasteful spending.
He isn't game changing in the manner that say a blackbeard type character or a lion type character is but his utility provides a team with a different method of attacking sites.
>>15353757
He is a sledge esque clone but his gadget is just a little different
I meant moreso that he is a gamechanger at a higher level much higher than I play at and probably most people on planet earth.
9a73f0 No.15365305
>>15365274
what did they do to the MPs?
0d8068 No.15365339
>>15365305
they artificially increased the recoil to these weird proportions where if you aren't 2ft away from someone you can't mag dump anymore.
Now in order to even use them at long range you need to tapfire them very very precisely to the point when honestly a pistol+compensator is easier to use. The only advantage a MP has now in a fight is just it's mag capacity(which the smg11 doesn't really even have)
I understand a nerf of the bering9 and the smg12 but I would of preferred a magazine nerf instead of a "This gun fucking sucks now" nerf. I haven't used the bering but I've played on TTS alot with the mac11 and the smg12 and the SMG 12 now has this weird recoil pattern that just goes up and the the left but it's still really easy to tapfire it it's not really that bad because once again HUGE mag cap. But the SMG11 just seems like garbage now and the only reason why I would bring it over the standard pistol is just because it has a sight on it.
I understand why they did it I just hate the way the guns feel now the mac 11 used to feel good now it feels fucked up. The rest of the weapons though are way better since the sight alignment fix.
600a36 No.15365362
>>15365339
>But the SMG11 just seems like garbage now and the only reason why I would bring it over the standard pistol is just because it has a sight on it.
remember when it used to have an ACOG? wild times, but I feel it was never really used for firefights and just a means of sledge/smoke getting to have a shotgun and a pocket sniper. I liked the bearing a lot but a lot of people considered it overpowered that hib/ech got to carry so much firepower on them, dunno if i found it that way myself
0d8068 No.15365417
>>15365362
Well when I would play sledge or smoke it was just my usual weapon of choice unless I was in a long range engagement I would use the l85. I just feel the change is unnecessary and now I'm just like welp looks like I'm just going to pick buck over sledge since I like his rifle better.
I think the smg nerf is related to pro league players because in their hands these weapons are insanely overpowered as if it matters though this game is schizo as fuck they try to balance it around the average joe and the best in the world wtf is the point??? That's like trying to design a golf course that would be fun for minigolfers and pga tour pros but on top of that they change the golfcourse every couple months and add a bunch of new shit in it. As much as I like this game I think it has the most cancerous design philosophy I've probably ever seen.
600a36 No.15365521
watching some TTS footage clash looks like a fucking nightmare to deal with if anyone is standing behind her, it's just as good as peeking from behind a montagne but with no field of view punishment from the shield so clash doesn't even need to ping or coordinate with whoever is backing her.
7129f5 No.15366721
What does /v/ think about maverick?
>no counters
>hard breacher
>3speed/1armor
>great weapons
inb4 nerf
61f42c No.15367937
>>15366721
I only think his blowtorch should make a lot more noise so he can't make holes everywhere willy-nilly, but who knows whether a silent blowtorch will turn out to be OP.
b90a0b No.15367988
>>15366721
>Tony Hawk's Pro Oper8er
9ba93d No.15368045
>mfw when have irl friend who bought the game and first two year passes
>got perma banned for "toxicity" long before the horrid chat filter
>despite hating ubi and their practices he buys the game
>AGAIN
>buys year one operator pack
>AGAIN
>continues to call people ingame "jig" to get around filter
I'm going to laugh so hard when he gets permabanned and buys it a third time.
5b78db No.15369600
>Maybe i'll give it a try again
>14 teamkillers in a row
>Go back to Warframe
Fuck i have never seen a great game so ruined by its playerbase as this.
61f42c No.15369667
>>15369600
It's weird how everyone complains about teamkilling, but I only ever see teamkills happening in the opposing team. I've had like 20 matches in a row without an (intentional) TK on my side. Maybe the West European servers are filled with less faggots than wherever you're playing.
d25efe No.15369675
>>15330237
This hands down is the ugliest character I have ever seen in a video game. Literally reaks of SJW influence in "its" design. Not only that, Clash is going to be situational at best.
d25efe No.15369683
>>15366721
Dude's gonna replace Hibana in the pro community. Easily going to be a must pick, much like Thermite is
600a36 No.15369898
>>15368045
you know the chat filter is absolute garbage, but falling for it multiple times is just as god damn retarded
>>15366721
Clash will get the nerf first when paired up with just about anyone she dominates the opposition and can do bullshit runouts, so even though you get tracked once outside you can just use her for cover and peek and pop and the attackers are forced to focus on you even if they want to reroute
d5a6f0 No.15370056
>>15361159
Torrent it, there's still around a 100 people or more playing it through Tuungle.
646dbd No.15370231
9ba93d No.15371412
>>15369898
I said he was banned before the filter was implemented.
b219b4 No.15373055
>>15369898
They've already nerfed Maverick, but said they aren't touching Clash for a while.
289ffc No.15373078
>Originally, we had a bug that prevented Glaz from being able to destroy Castle’s Armored Panels. As this makes sense, and is a positive way of adjusting both Operators, we have decided not to fix it.
IT'S A FEATURE
0e3553 No.15373101
>>15373078
It is a positive change, but it's depressing that it took three years for it to be implemented and that it happened by accident.
fc8b82 No.15382472
>>15281175
It's Ubisoft what else did you expect?
646dbd No.15393691
>>15368045
AH BLOO BLOO i tried getting tonnes of mates to play this and they stop after like one game because ITS TOO HARD then they go back to overwatch wow or what ever casual shit
61f42c No.15394784
>>15368045
>SomeFag in the chat says NIGGERS out of nowhere
>SomeFag has left the game.
>everyone in the game presses F and salutes him
>'he was a good man'
>'he left us too soon'
>'SomeFag has been banned for Toxic Behaviour' pops up in the top right of the screen
It was actually kind of funny seeing everyone in the game show their solidarity for some guy they've never met before over something like this.
The funnier part is that the chat filter doesn't even censor the toxic words.