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9590e7  No.15276679

>Mass murderering clown as a first party Mascot

>sweet tooth a canon Serial killer of women

>sweet tooth a canon sexual deviant

I’m shocked game journalists didn’t went after Twisted Metal 2012. I doubt you can make a soy approve twisted metal reboot. Is it safe to say twisted metal dead?

ff2e5b  No.15276689

I miss clowns.


e265c6  No.15276696

Grimdark Twisted Metal was a mistake. Cartoon Dark Comedy Twisted Metal is best.


ce0a58  No.15276724

>>15276696

I miss everybody getting fucking bamboozled to hell and back like it was in TM4. Also, the toy-car spin off was really cool too.


d004dd  No.15276740

You don't remember the hullabaloo over the lead director, or maybe some other guy, saying something along the lines of "let your girlfriend beat you at the game for easy sex" or something considering it came out o Valentines Day? It was that week's forced controversy and right around the time femfreq started popping up.


c3d9cb  No.15276752

>>15276724

YOUR WISH FOR PIZZA IS GRANTED


10d0df  No.15276759


9590e7  No.15276764

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>>15276689

>>15276752

>>15276724

With all the shit twisted metal 3 and 4 get. They had the best sweet tooth. I'll trickster sweet tooth over I killed my family for the lulz edgy sweet tooth.


c3d9cb  No.15276767

>>15276764

>tfw still searching for TM4's ragtime piano song from the intro video


c3d9cb  No.15276799

>>15276764

Also yeah TM4 is one of my favorites. It just screams 90's all over, from the music to art design to the silly plot. Coolest looking Sweet Tooth as well.


b74c5c  No.15276803

>>15276679

>sweet tooth a canon sexual deviant

[citation needed]


0c0696  No.15276841

>Game reboots

>won’t happen

If only anon.


ce0a58  No.15276977

>>15276799

It also had some pretty intense moments:

>PREPARE TO FIGHT MINION

>his entire stage is a maze

>navigating through and suddenly encounter this huge fucking tank right around the corner, spamming all sorts of shit to pound your ass

That shit really got me the first time it happened.


c3d9cb  No.15277013

>>15276977

The stages were awesome. I fucking loved camping on the building where you get the environmental attack in the future city stage.

TM4 was especially spooky for me because my copy had no music in it past the main menu. It was dead silence throughout the game, then suddenly you get blasted by some dude coming outta nowhere shooting rockets out of his cornhole with the loudest sfx I've ever seen in a PS1 game


9590e7  No.15277050

>>15276841

What would a soyboy feminist friendly twisted metal be like?


2c96a9  No.15277068

File: 56d90d3990d074d⋯.gif (4.72 KB, 1900x1900, 1:1, tfw.gif)

>tfw no Earth 2170 or Earth 2150 remakeboot


635ab4  No.15277080

>>15277013

Wait, I'm intrigued about your issue there. Was the disc scratched to shit or something?


c3d9cb  No.15277095

>>15277080

pirated copy but it was rad either way. Try playing without music sometime, it's pretty tense, especially bosses.


635ab4  No.15277119

>>15277095

Fuck man, this thread has made me really want to play some Twisted Metal now. I swear I played like the first on on PC back in the day, will I only get to play the others on emulator? Is


4ca4fa  No.15277550

>>15276689

Yet Tumblr fetishes the monster from IT


9df319  No.15277559

is gow any worse/better


0c0696  No.15280078

>>15277050

one male character

at least 3 WoC characters

one or two Transgendered characters

one or two lesbian characters

10-minute tutorial

low sales

sequel guaranteed


9590e7  No.15280208

>>15280180

>low sales

>sequel guaranteed

>>15280078

Calling it now. calypso Will be trump.


3be37e  No.15280215

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Reminder that Twisted Metal 1 had one of the best soundtracks


9590e7  No.15280352

>>15280215

I remember when sweet tooth being a clown was a actual character trait. Sweet tooth use to have one liners and crack jokes


df20f4  No.15284780

So which is the best Twisted Metal?


46e1c4  No.15285128

File: 34e2ca197627870⋯.jpg (243.65 KB, 854x480, 427:240, jmss.jpg)

I miss Jet Moto but they wrecked the game franchise in the late 90s and it sputtered out. Doing double backflips off of ramps and tearing ass through swamps and beaches was a whole lot of fun.


b74c5c  No.15285134

>>15277119

twisted metal 2 was on pc but stripped down, all others are on emulators exclusively


277ac2  No.15285468

File: 00abf171942c27c⋯.png (111.18 KB, 680x614, 340:307, 9d3d2759f7670d48f974d8e05a….png)

>>15276679

>>15284780

1. Twisted Metal was already rebooted.

2. Twisted metal series is unsalvageable on it's own without any current year public standards. Depending on your point of view it has 1, 2 great games tops (either 4 for being objectively the best game in the series, 1-2 for nostalgia points or Black and Head-on for being "updated versions" of the original games):

TM 1,2 while good and great at the time are currently obsolete;

TM 3 was still, same as the previous entries, an experimentation, however, due to lack of polish driving and handling was an absolute garbage;

TM 4 unlike the previous titles bears similarities to a previous installment and is pretty much a polished version of the game and that's not the only difference. Like calypso not being at the head of the tournament, sweet tooth and axel became exclusive boss characters, visual design upping degree of cartoonishness etc. In the context, those, and many other things were the reasons why it amassed some hate following.

And finally Black. Black is the reason why TM will never get back on track. While handling mechanics certainly got an upgrade, visual and level design quality just plummeted, all of it became boring, grey and uninspired. Game "returned to its roots" by returning everything back in its place, while missing bits and pieces along the line and not learning any lessons. Since that moment on, TM series is out of touch and has no sense on why TM 2 or 4 were ever good to begin with.

Small Brawl is an exaggerated interpretation of 4. Head-on is another Black. And TM 2012 while trying out new things, have also appealed to wider audiences, which is like drinking antibiotics while shooting yourself in the foot.

Similarly, Carmageddon: Reincarnation and Road Redemption have almost flopped (to my knowledge) for the same reason of being out of touch. All of these series are fine examples of why "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" isn't a perfectly valid solution for making great games.


0d8197  No.15285491

Honorary mention:

F-Zero


c3d9cb  No.15285554

>>15285468

While 4 is my favorite, I'd say each game has its own charm. Head-On's car handling feels a bit on the bland side but it has plenty of little details that make up for it. Black was a wild 90 degree turn straight off a cliff in terms of content and gameplay but the horror/insanity theme was pretty refreshing. But really they all have a little bit of magic in them that makes each one different, except 3. Nobody cares about 3.


af461e  No.15285566

File: 93ed9fa811abc80⋯.jpg (52.67 KB, 600x610, 60:61, 93ed9fa811abc8020eabdc9088….jpg)

>tfw you kinda liked black

It's kinda endearing how it tried so hard to be 2cool4u.


b74c5c  No.15285572

File: 988674269d03a9d⋯.jpg (112.55 KB, 1037x742, 1037:742, twisted metal black sweet ….jpg)

>>15285468

it was already rebooted but we need a reboot that isn't trash, i.e. it has more than three fucking characters and it has multiplayer that isn't DOA because of server issues and general incompetence

the gameplay of tm2012 was great, objectively the best in the series. the cars sucked ass and so did the drivers, as well as the theme which was black but with less gray which i deem shit because black at the very least had an aesthetic to it

>>15285566

nothing wrong with liking or disliking it, i love it as i think it has great gameplay while being very easy to get immersed into on top of being challenging


dce3f2  No.15285578

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Red Baron


277ac2  No.15285598

File: bf5acb8a304cd48⋯.jpg (38.21 KB, 618x745, 618:745, fbe20786ebb3840bc8fb382883….jpg)

>>15285554

>I'd say each game has its own charm

No, all of them have charm that is the cutsceneses well, and the lore/concept too. Aside from that the only game worth playing now is 4.

>but the horror/insanity theme was pretty refreshing

Maybe it was, but the monotone scenery and boring stage design just can't stand the test of time.

>But really they all have a little bit of magic in them that makes each one different

Any game, approached with right mindset, can have magic that makes your experiences unique. Game being experimental doesn't make it worth it by default.

>except 3. Nobody cares about 3.

It's because for the exception of Head-on and maybe Black and TM2012 to some degree all of the games in the series were experimental, until 4 perfected on the 3s formula.

>>15285572

>the gameplay of tm2012 was great

X

>we need a reboot that isn't trash

You don't. Twisted metal is dead, if not already dead should be dead and if some new addition to the series will come out - it will be another dumpster fire.


3d1996  No.15285620

Skate….


386627  No.15287295

>>15276679

>>15276740

David Jaffe became such an SJW that he said a bunch of kids who took superhero themed prom pics were like the KKK because the boys were dressed as superheroes and the girls just had matching colors but not superhero costumes. Because girls not wanting to ruin their prom dresses with superhero costumes means they and their boyfriends are nazis.

Really the last guy you would have expected to be an SJW, but there you go.

>>15277050

Twisted Metal 2012 ended with Sweet Tooth's daughter becoming the new Sweet Tooth. I think his son did too though. But basically if we ever do get a new Twisted Metal, Sweet Tooth will be a girl and there will technically be a justification for it.

But don't worry, we won't get a new Twisted Metal, and if we did, Jaffe already says that it would most likely be an online only "games as a service" thing. As if overly focusing on online and neglecting single player isn't one of the major reasons the 2012 game didn't do as well. Well that and no marketing.

>>15280208

And Trump was already a rich guy in a skyscraper penthouse in 2012, and that's pretty much the same as in TM2 except he would hang out in his own blimp there. So again they'll say it's justified.

>>15280352

When? He doesn't talk in 4. In 1 he wishes for his friend and it's a lunch sack, and in 2 he wishes to be a caterpillar. To be fair I forget what he does in 3. He does kinda funny things in 1 and 2, but 1 is still portrayed as very dark and it doesn't even really come off as funny, just as disturbing. 2 is like edgy funny and I like it but it's as funny as he ever gets. Head-On is back in the main universe and he just keeps doing freaky Inception shit.

>>15285128

Jet Moto was great and needs to come back. 3 was still good despite SingleTrack leaving. Sony needs to show more love to their first party franchises.

>>15285468

>Head-on is another Black.

Head-On is just what the original devs would have done for 3. It's not all dark like Black, it's not boring, grey, and uninspired. It's a lot less grey than the first game, if anything.

>>15285554

>Black was a wild 90 degree turn straight off a cliff in terms of content and gameplay but the horror/insanity theme was pretty refreshing.

Black has great large levels and lots of fun characters and secrets. I get liking the more colorful games, but aside from that, Black is the same as the earlier games but improved.

>>15285572

This. 2012 would have been great, but the online was shit, and there was very little single player. Single player is essential to any game because even if 2012's online worked to begin with it would be gone by now, and then a great game would have become a paperweight. Now a sorta okay game became almost a paperweight. Jaffe and others say we only care about story, but no, they just don't realize that those little things, like actual characters with even tiny text backstories, give a lot more incentive to keep coming back.

Also 4 is the worst game. I can't believe fucking plebs in here are defending it. It was so bad it made Sony fire their in-house studio and bring back the original devs. I still kinda like it.


386627  No.15287300

>>15285620

Tony Hawk was better. I've been getting into that a lot again lately. Why is THUG Pro based on Underground 2 and not American Wasteland? I get that they can't touch the ones that aren't on PC as easily, but Underground 2 isn't the last one on PC. Is American Wasteland that fundamentally bad?


6fe5b5  No.15287315

File: 3d6d87c0efaa8ec⋯.jpg (75.31 KB, 256x327, 256:327, Killer7boxnew.jpg)

I want a reboot of Killer7 that changes multiple personalities into having multiple genders.


4787f7  No.15287329

File: 79f812b5119ce71⋯.gif (2.25 MB, 572x376, 143:94, 1425000520808.gif)


2df010  No.15287397

>>15287329

Actually triggered


b74c5c  No.15288283

File: c75cb8ff69a4491⋯.png (2.22 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, david jaffe.png)

>>15287295

>David Jaffe became such an SJW

>Really the last guy you would have expected to be an SJW

he was always an SJW, as a matter of fact he is a genuine jew. also, 2012's servers are actually still online as i accidentally entered an empty lobby last night while playing because of this thread, they know dedicated fans still form play dates over at tm alliance.


b74c5c  No.15288289

>>15288283

https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=jaffe

>Jewish (Ashkenazic): from Hebrew yafe ‘beautiful’, ‘pleasant’, a surname recorded in Prague as early as the 16th century.


277ac2  No.15288962

>>15287295

>Also 4 is the worst game. Can't believe fucking plebs in here are defending it

>Because internal affairs.

>I still like it.

Opinion discarded.

>Head-on is not all dark like Black

Well, I didn't say it's literally another Black.

>not boring, grey, and uninspired

But it's still on the same engine, it still had no understanding why older games were rad to begin with. Maybe I'm judging it too harshly because of Black, and they have improved the game since (so I should probably revisit it), like how 989 improved on 3, but even then, the music choices are fucking atrocious.


f16014  No.15289045

tfw best song in the game is ruined because as an adult I recognize the vocal samples being Jesse fucking Jackson screaming about how there needs to be a nigger in the Whitehouse and generally playing victim politics


b74c5c  No.15289192

>>15288962

3 is the worst in the series, the gameplay is utter shit not to mention thematic problems. never played 4 so i will withhold judgement because it may have acceptable gameplay

>But it's still on the same engine, it still had no understanding why older games were rad to begin with.

the ps2 games have undeniable gameplay improvements from tm2 simply due to it being released on another console generation. the only thing left is thematics which head-on gets correct. furthermore, head-on has a pretty good soundtrack on most stages and especially the main menu (on the psp version).


c3d9cb  No.15289299

Funniest thing is that TM4 is the best because it has the most "realistic" car movement physics (i.e. it's the closest in mechanics to Vigilante 8, the superior series). They actually feel more like cars and less like boxes of soap sliding around and spinning on their axis.


b74c5c  No.15289330

>>15289299

realism is the exact opposite you should strive for in vehicular combat unless you want a shitty game


c3d9cb  No.15289349

>>15289330

True, but it IS important to make the vehicles in your vehicular combat game behave like vehicles, and not soapblocks that can spin in place and have no inertia to them. It has to differentiate itself, because every other action game does this, mechgames, TPS, 3D platformers, etc.

This is precisely why V8 was so damn good. Everything had weigh to it. It had physics. That said, I still like TM a lot, especially 4 and HO.


386627  No.15291971

>>15288962

Dummy. I wasn't saying it's bad because internal affairs, I was saying that the internal affairs show just how much everyone hated it at the time. And why would you get mad at me for saying I still like it? I'm saying it's the worst one but still pretty fun.

What's wrong with Black's engine? That game plays extremely well.

>>15289045

Best song is Paint it Black. Though every game in the series has an excellent soundtrack. I have to admit I like the licensed stuff from 3 and 4, but the original stuff from the other games is great too. Especially the first two.


277ac2  No.15300975

>>15291971

>What's wrong with Black's engine?

Nothing, except that if they went with rehashing an engine then probably they went with a ton of the same ideas into the development of the game. My points are still the same to my previous post.

>I wasn't saying it's bad

>I'm saying it's the worst one

And even if you'll pull "comparatively" out of your ass you'll still be wrong.


c3d9cb  No.15300999

>>15291971

>>15289045

>Best song

>Not Superbeast

Am I gonna need to burn some bitches and dig some ditches and slam in the back'o'mah dragula around here?


85601e  No.15301005

File: 022c6451a17c6c0⋯.png (8.96 KB, 518x193, 518:193, wishin for pizza (even if ….PNG)

>>15276759

>>15276752

Forgot I saved this


386627  No.15302947

>>15300975

So you dislike Head-On because of initial ideas rather than the final product? Also I really don't get your hate for Black. It's darker, so sure I can see not liking that as much, but everything else is extremely similar to before, only improved. Also, Sweet Tooth's special is the best special in the series and every character should get their own transformation because it's awesome.

And yeah of course I was saying it wasn't bad. That's why I said I still like it. But it is the worst compared to the others and everyone knew it at the time.


dcf672  No.15305598

File: 44396e6839f7b94⋯.jpg (234.63 KB, 848x807, 848:807, 75214591ab65f07c80a4bf3ec8….jpg)

>>15302947

>So you dislike Head-On because of initial ideas rather than the final product?

I don't dislike Head-on, but from visuals, character endings, music, engine and gameplay it feels like Black but with a minute tonal shift, which wouldn't change the overall quality one bit if that's the case.

As I've said, I probably need to reconsider that and try Head-on again.

>So you dislike Head-On because of initial ideas rather than the final product?

Says the guy that brought sonys internal affairs as an argument for why 4 is bad.

>And even if you'll pull "comparatively" out of your ass you'll still be wrong.

>But it is the worst compared…

Are you an idiot or something?

1. 3 is worse than 4 because 4 was an improvement over 3;

2. You as of yet have to say anything bad about the game itself;

3.

>argumentum ad populum

>but everything else is extremely similar to before, only improved

You mean the stages that go on forever with no remarkable landmarks or scenery? Or extremely generic action soundtrack (which is not even metal)? Or variety of specials that for the most part narrows down to different flavors of homing missiles? Or characters that went from a whole variety of social commentary and subcultures to just crazy people? Or weapon variety that got smaller and less diverse?

The only things that got better are resolution and car handling, that's about it, everything else got worse, watered down or unchanged.


eabdee  No.15306095

>>15276679

nigger, twisted metal has had 2 reboots


8fa854  No.15306108

File: 0c0bdbca8dd7790⋯.gif (492.17 KB, 460x345, 4:3, 1330332106280.gif)

Fun and simple game concepts like

>drive around in cars with weapons strapped to them and blow the fuck out of eachother

are non-kosher, anon. We need more generic shitty FPS's that subliminally promote obesity and obsessive behaviors, so we can then switch around and point to them and say they're ruining our kids.


12df0d  No.15306138

>>15300999

You deserve the trips.


f031bf  No.15306223

File: cf306960c393d6c⋯.png (431.09 KB, 800x600, 4:3, penny-racers-04.png)

>>15306108

Simpler times, when music was the only devil you had to worry about and nobody in the West knew Islam still existed.


386627  No.15308115

>>15305598

>>So you dislike Head-On because of initial ideas rather than the final product?

>

>Says the guy that brought sonys internal affairs as an argument for why 4 is bad.

No, you keep getting the order of events wrong. I brought up events that happened after the release of 4 to show the response everyone had to 4 at the time, just as surprise at seeing an opinion I've never really seen before. I don't care to challenge that particular opinion much though, because though I do like 4 less, I always thought it got way too much hate, and was still pretty good.

But then you were implying to dislike head on because "probably they went with a ton of the same ideas into the development of the game." Which isn't about the final game or reception, but just some initial ideas that you theorize happening, but didn't make it to the final product. Head-On is very much a sequel to 2.

>1. 3 is worse than 4 because 4 was an improvement over 3;

I liked the characters and stages better in 3. I know 4 had the create a car option but it's not the same without the characters, and practically every old character was missing or was exclusively a boss. But again, I don't want to shit on 4 too much. It's still good.

>re: Black

The large stages are great. Same in 2012, which had much larger stages. The cars get faster to make up for it. I also wouldn't say the scenery is less remarkable than the other games. They all have their share of cool secrets and destructible environments and stuff.

>soundtrack

Actually I'll give you this one. The other games have amazing soundtracks and Black's only standout is Paint it Black, which doesn't play during gameplay.

>specials

Black has great specials, with a bunch of characters having two, and Sweet Tooth becoming a mech. If anything say it's BS that Sweet Tooth's special is so much better than the rest. But then I'd say the same about a bunch of other cool ones, like Mr. Slamm having the coolest special by far in the games he's in.

>characters

>social commentary and subcultures

>the devil, the grim reaper, a demon

Dude I like the characters from the main series, but to act as if it's all biting social commentary is dumb. Black tried to explore its characters a bit more deeply and happened to tie it together with the concept of the asylum, but even then, a lot of the "crazy people" were relatively normal. Like Outlaw was depressed and suicidal, but basically just a cop, like old Outlaw. The only major difference is in tone, and the fact that Black explores the characters to much deeper degrees. That's not to say I don't like the crazy comic book style lore that builds up around the main series characters, I love it. But Black isn't "worse."

>The only things that got better are resolution and car handling

Car handling is pretty much the most important thing of all. Granted I also think it's better in 2012 and that game is worse because it does fuck up some major things. But I really think a lot of your hate for Black totally falls flat. I get subjectively liking it less due to not liking the tone, especially since you prefer the extra cartoony 4 over something darker like the first game, but getting mad about the characters? come on.


b74c5c  No.15308147

File: 3e5e767c12996ea⋯.png (400.6 KB, 640x368, 40:23, twisted metal black online….png)

>>15288289

>>15305598

>I don't dislike Head-on, but from visuals, character endings, music, engine and gameplay it feels like Black but with a minute tonal shift

what you just said sounds completely arbitrary because it doesn't exactly copy tm2 or something

>You mean the stages that go on forever with no remarkable landmarks or scenery?

i don't know what "go on forever" means, are you trying to shit on their size or something? the stages are a bit uninspired but they play fine and their size is great, a massive improvement over previous games

>Or extremely generic action soundtrack (which is not even metal)?

yeah it's shit

>Or variety of specials that for the most part narrows down to different flavors of homing missiles?

this would be an issue if the five cars with this feature had their special act the exact same but they don't, they all go at different speeds, have different levels of homing, different amounts of explosives, damage, etc.

>Or characters that went from a whole variety of social commentary and subcultures to just crazy people?

social commentary in games is FUCKING RETARDED especially when it's a jew behind it, see >>15288289, furthermore the "subculture" characters are bound to be shitty stereotypes meanwhile black's characters at least had potential to be deeper than awful walking stereotypes

>Or weapon variety that got smaller and less diverse?

what, weapon variety is improved over tm2

>The only things that got better are resolution and car handling

you mean the gameplay in this game got better? especially compared to tm4 which had a completely trash theme as it was nothing like tm2 and instead felt like generic garbage made by people who failed to comprehend the first games? at least black tried something different and succeeded at what it wanted to accomplish extremely well, tm4's theme has zero value then or now.


b74c5c  No.15308827

File: dbd49b1990f4488⋯.jpg (176.19 KB, 640x480, 4:3, twisted metal black dollfa….jpg)

>>15308147

to add to this, i think black would have had a better theme if it stayed a little more connected to previous tms thematically

>keep old-school sweet tooth laugh

>do some more unique locations like the carnival of darkness, stadium slaughter and ship from twisted metal: lost

>add gritty metal soundtrack as opposed to orchestral garbage

when watching the twisted metal lost documentary the metal in the background fits really well with black footage, much better than the movie score. for whatever reason, the pic i posted above gives me classic tm vibes but in black's universe


dcf672  No.15310002

File: 5dae847dbf2352c⋯.png (265.41 KB, 389x511, 389:511, 1511305288799.png)

>>15308115

>Black has great specials, with a bunch of characters having two, and Sweet Tooth becoming a mech.

That's not a refutation of my statement.

>Mr. Slamm having the coolest special by far in the games he's in.

He is not in the game, and that's not the only type of special that there is less of.

>But Black isn't "worse."

Sure, but then again it isn't

>extremely similar to before, only improved

either.

>but getting mad about the characters?

I'm not being mad about the characters in general, but in the context it really doesn't sit well.

>>15308147

> are you trying to shit on their size or something?

That and

> the stages are a bit uninspired

thus they are bigger and blander, making them less concise, forcing you to take longer to get anywhere and do anything, while being that much less fun inbetween. I'm not saying that this isn't serviceable for the game, I'm saying it's just simply worse than how it was.

>this would be an issue if the five cars with this feature had their special act the exact same

No, it is an issue simply because it's less varied than the original and is pretty close to just being uninspired. No matter how you coat it, it is still a homing missile that could've been anything else.

>furthermore the "subculture" characters are bound to be shitty stereotypes

No, they are bound to be stereotypes, which is just a tool that's better at exploring the make a wish thing, than the story packed Black's characters. Again, going back to

>extremely similar to before, only improved

It's not.

>what, weapon variety is improved over tm2

So you are going that far back when it suits you, but when even tm2 had more variety in specials you are just going to say that 5 homing missile ones are fine?

>you mean the gameplay in this game got better?

If you are going to put words in my mouth, then go all in, like you also forgot to say that I'm also implying that the game became also substantially better looking. It wouldn't reflect reality, but hey, you've got your point across, right?

No, car handling isn't the prime benefactor for the gameplay quality, it's a safeguard for a game to not be shite right from the start, it's a basic characteristic the game has to get right before building everything else on top of it. If you've laid down a base for a skyscraper, but build just a shed on top of it, your shed would have that much more support from falling apart, but it's still just a shed.

>especially compared to tm4 which had a completely trash theme as it was nothing like tm2

How does a theme correlates with gameplay? How does a theme being better or worse correlates with car handling of 4 being worse than in 2? How does gameplay correlates with a theme? Or did you just simply pull this big of a non sequitor out of your ass just to make a completely asinine point about how 4 is shit?

>made by people who failed to comprehend the first games?

>at least black tried something different

So 4, paying tribute to the series by upping everything up while switching minute details here and there so as to not be stale is completely failing to understand the series.

But Black going a completely different direction into the realistic territory, while dumbing everything down (probably because of the former) the series have gained up until that point, regressing to the point of tm2 (or to potentially even tm1 in some respects) is not?

Nevertheless, it's still within the range of that non sequitor, thus this is less about how any of that is right or wrong, but how long of a shit you are pulling out of your ass.


ba1d11  No.15310064

>>15308115

>I brought up events that happened after the release of 4 to show the response everyone had to 4 at the time

Can you explain that please? I honestly wanna know


dcf672  No.15310065

>>15308115

>with a bunch of characters having two, and Sweet Tooth becoming a mech

I'll give you this, axel's 2nd special is a good thing, and that's it, because all of those specials included are not unique, and the idea of 2 specials wasn't explored. Sweet Tooth special while neat, doesn't amount to anything really, except being a manifestation of pander to fans, which potentially brought down everyone elses special as a result.


dcf672  No.15310077

>>15310064

What do you not understand (or are you that much of a lazy cunt as to not scroll up through the conversation to find the bit you are interested in)? Or are you simply mocking him for being wrong and potentially making shitty arguments? Then it's way too contrived and indirect for this conversation.


ba1d11  No.15310082

>>15310077

Anon, I'm a different dude. I was just asking out of curiosity.


dcf672  No.15310153

>>15310082

Look, I know you are a different idiot, that was an implication.

-> >>15287295

>Also 4 is the worst game. I can't believe fucking plebs in here are defending it. It was so bad it made Sony fire their in-house studio and bring back the original devs.

While the latter part of the statement is true, the former is debatable.

What objectively happened is that past the 2nd game a different team was assigned to do the development on the series. And while 3 was the worst game of the series 4 got all the flack for being an ideological continuation of 3 (an improvement on a previous installment while 1 and 2 were experimentations) and the outrage snowballed out of control due to fans refusing to recognize any changes in 4, forcing former employers of SingleTrac to be assigned to work on the TM on ps2 under a new name.

Regardless of that, I believe, they still did Small Brawl, 2nd to worst game in the series, probably trying to appeal to 4th fans and have split at least 2 more times, having TM2012 as their latest game (before focusing on mobile right after that following VR and the final break up), which was a success with casuals while being a fucking mess of a launch (and potentially mess of a game).


ba1d11  No.15310174

>>15310153

>being this fucking autistic over a simple question

How about you go fucking bellyflop a tablesaw you cockwall-climbing nigger. Kill yourself.


dcf672  No.15310176

>>15310174

Oh, so you are not only a lazy idiot, but you are also an ungrateful cunt. Shouldn't have spoonfed you, shame on me.


ba1d11  No.15310192

>>15310176

You were absolutely useless and your retardation is evident in your posts.

Eat buckshot, you fucking ape.


dcf672  No.15310225

>>15310192

You are being dishonest and deliberately insulting, because I've called you a lazy idiot and a cunt.

The information I've provided you is more than what even was originally discussed between me and him, and what I've explained is the entire extent of the events transpiring that I genuinely know of surrounding the series.

So tell me, what exactly did you want to hear that's not included, and why me calling you and ungrateful lazy cunt that's quickly turning into a raging retard - is uncalled for?


c3d9cb  No.15310401

>>15308115

>like Mr. Slamm having the coolest special by far in the games he's in

Damn right he does. The best games in the series all have him in their rosters. The ones that don't are automatically demoted.


c3d9cb  No.15319217

File: e0a55fc33edb3d0⋯.jpg (24.62 KB, 540x353, 540:353, 14 - tlN5Os9.jpg)

I just downloaded Twisted Metal 4 and took it for a spin on a psx emulator to refresh my memory.

I just grabbed a full-HD Axel as Super Slamm with low health, ran into a 6+ proximity mine trap I forgot about as I was slamming his nigger ass which promptly flinged us both into the stratosphere, instakilling us both and finishing the level for me to progress.

Yeah, this is the best TM game in the series, fuck whoever says otherwise.


9d3ab3  No.15320127

>>15277550

They want him to be a lgbtap+ symbol


2080ca  No.15320148

File: 00bac8e61470bf9⋯.png (152.46 KB, 591x717, 197:239, 00bac8e61470bf9c130aa3062c….png)

>>15276679

Vigilante 8 was better than twisted Metal in every conceivable way so who cares


e849bd  No.15320185

>>15320148

is this loss


2080ca  No.15320200


e849bd  No.15320212

File: fd15182b5233d15⋯.png (340.49 KB, 585x633, 195:211, 1465761913231.png)

>>15320200

I see it now, I should get some sleep




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