/v/ - Video Games

>Capcom will explore more remakes

>Everything GOOD Capcom's ever made is on BAD Capcom's chopping block now

Oh God

Hey, REmake was good wasn't it?

Who am I kidding they're going to fuck up everything

>>15254774

>>15254770

Meant to reply

>>15254766

>What are you playing?

Wouldn't you like to know.

>What are you buying?

>buying

>Hype for something?

Who the literal fuck gets hyped for shit?

>Is there any hope for survival horror games?

There is no hope for games, survival horror games are games, there is no hope for survival horror games.

>Dino Crisis remake y/n?

>remakes/remasters/rereleases

>Where's that Dreadout r34?

>>>/vp/

>>15254766

>What are you playing?

Silent Hill 3

>What are you buying?

a Leon Kennedy RE4 or RE6 leather jacket off of amazon. can't decide which. RE6 has more pockets for my handhelds but RE4 is classic

>Hype for something?

the RE2make

>Is there any hope for survival horror games?

Not anymore. Last gen at least had Dead Space as a new IP. This gen's newest horror IPs have been all junk

>Dino Crisis remake y/n?

n

>Where's that Dreadout r34?

?? I don't even know this game ??

>>15254777

I mean if you don't even give a shit about the thread why do you bother to reply?

>>15254810

Attention probably.

>>15254766

They should remake their entire company next.

>>15254826

Look man, I just wanted to make a thread to talk about horror vidya, if you think I'm being too intrusive or stupid it's cool. Just ignore it

>>15254871

Silent Hill 2 if you haven't

>>15254871

Silent Hill 2, remember to ignore the Maria scenario but go play it if you want to see a cancerous request from the Western localization team to Team Silent, then play The Room but remember to get a no spoiler guide, it gets really fucking convoluted, then play the rest of the games you got.

well, here's my tierlist of silent hill games. if anyone's interested

>above ok tier

Silent Hill 1, 2, 3, 4

>ok tier

Origins, Homecoming, Shattered Memories, Downpour

>below ok tier

Every spinoff. Play Novel: Silent Hill, Silent Hill Mobile, Silent Hill The Arcade, Silent Hill The Escape, Silent Hill Orphan, Silent Hill Orphan 2, Silent Hill Mobile 3, Book of Memories, Silent Hill Pachislot.

Also, the Silent Hill HD Collection because Konami lost the original source code for Silent Hill 2 & 3. They instead had to make HD versions of the earlier, incomplete builds they still had of those games.

>>15254841

>They should remake their entire company next.

Underrated post

>>15254871

>which one should i play first

go from shitty to great

haunted mansion>Onimusha>SH4>SH2

Why not just remake RE3 next, since it's more in line with action-oriented gameplay of RE2make? They got the technology nailed down anyway, it'll take less time.

God Hand remake please.

The biggest horror here is the thought of Capcom trying to develop more remakes.

I can't play horror games, I got courageous enough to play Silent hill 1 and it wasn't too bad, mostly spooky but I got to the school and I said fuck this, it's actually bugging me how frightening it is, this was 5 days ago and I can't get it out of my head. I sort of want to play Silent hill 2 it seems more interesting to play but I'm not gonna touch these games, my mind is too fragile.

>>15255675

Leave this place CoD kid.

>>15255172

They probably will tbh.

>>15254766

>>What are you playing?

Replaying Silent Hill: Shattered Memories

>>What are you buying?

Nothing

>>Hype for something?

Nothing

>>Is there any hope for survival horror games?

Much like modern horror movies I feel like Horror games have stopped trying new things and just rehash the older concepts that worked et nausea. Both in terms of unchecked remakes/sequels, and because smaller studios borrow concepts from other titles but water down the mechanics in the process.

Hope exists, it always does because it's the last thing left in the proverbial pandora's box. I just can't really think of how to make me care about horror games that much. I'm the kind of guy who can be easily unnerved when playing a vidya, I remember actually putting down the controller while playing the Dark Sector simply because the idea of advancing through the first sewer level and having an enemy appearing from the shadows got to me. But that was an action game and I don't get anywhere near the same dread when playing most actual horror games.

>>15254766

Man, we're gonna see a broken and glitchy Megaman Legends in our life time, probably with dubstep, weapon "rebalances", shitty and untalented VAs, and no charm whatsoever. This actually makes me want to die, I know we joke around but god I can't stand these remakes anymore. So what next? 10 years from now, remakes are going to get remakes?

>>15255923

>did you see the "#SIREN2018" deal on japanese social media?

No, but I know about it now, such is the point of /v/ - not having to go on fucking twatter.

And I'm down for more Siren, but I don't think what's happening here is new. "Coming from the grave" suggests a remake, but Blood Curse was already a reboot. I'm betting on a PC/PS4 HD trilogy affair.

>>15255172

I can't wait until they get to Outbreak File #3.

>>15255953

>outbreak 3

My mind is telling me no, but my body is telling me yes.

>>15256015

There were rumours of one being workshopped before REmake 2 got greenlit. Something about 'the rural towns in the arklay mountains' and 'the navy seals keeping the outbreak contained for days of combat without breaks as they got ready for a vessel off shore to fire a nuke.

I'd be down for more small town backwoods stuff. Maybe cameos at points like one of the train cars you uncouple from the ecliptic express just idle on the line innawoods spilling its own zambambos out as well as the rat blotting effect carrying the T virus that way.

>>15256021

Theres alot that can be done, racoon city had 2 towns nearby, one in arklay (where the killer doctir was) and one called stoneville.

Aparently the army had a hard time securing the area before raccoon got the. thermobaric final solution (yes, the nukes were coverups, the us goverment used the city to test weapons), apparently theres still T organisms left there to this day that the goverment keeps track of.

>>15256029

>tfw no modern day monhun survival horror where you and friends team up to hunt a monster around a small rural town together.

Now thats what fucking Umbrella Corps should have been.

>>15254766

>More Capcom remakes

Outbreak is going to be fun unless they remake it like how they remake 2.

>>15255806

Speaking of CoD, I think survival horror games would benefit from Red Orchestra 2 kind of realism. Realistic and clumsy weapon handling, protagonist's emotional conditions affecting the gameplay, suspense, etc.

>>15255811

Dreadout didn't live up to it's full potential tbh. The ghost design could've been even more terrifying and the atmosphere could've been bleaker. Southeast asian myths are absolutely downbeat, ominous, and unnerving. Along with african horror, they're the scariest shit ever.

>>15256098

panangalan spin off when?

>>15256203

Of course.

>>15256179

>defending tank controls

Just because its usable doesn't mean it isn't obtuse as fuck. The only reason to use it is for dealing with sudden perspective changes when using fixed cameras which is why no game ever keeps it once fixed cameras are dropped.

Point-and-click does everything tank controls does better, but of course we got to cater to consolefags so that's off the table apparently.

>>15256211

Alright it's almost finished

>>15254925

>same day

>less than an hour after

>somehow this is underrated

Fuck off back to reddit, newfag

>>15256233

>survival horror game based around resource management and combat

>point and click

And there were point and clicks for consoles retard

>>15256424

Please tell me you are not actually the wonderbread guy and just did it for memes.

Whatever happened to that horror driving game someone came up with? Like you would drive around in the country-side while being chased. Occasionally, you would have to make a stop for gas or whatever and actually leave your car to look for supplies.

>>15256493

It's in ideaguy limbo along with Broquest and Pressure.

>>15256493

One is in development.

https://www.indiedb.com/games/beware/downloads/beware-demo

>>15256493

Dead End Road is a horror driving game that already exists.

>>15256524

>pressure

that's basically what barotrauma is. the game's website even says it's based on the idea combined with SS13 elements

>>15256493

I played a game like that called the consuming shadow. It was OK

>>15256233

>obtuse as fuck

>obtuse

>foward makes your charcter go foward, left and right change where youre facing, backwards make you go backwards

>this is obtuse

I really want just a straight up remaster of RE1. I've been trying to play it recently and it's impossible to make it look decent on a modern display.

>>15256758

Easiest way to fix that problem is a CRT with component input and a PS2

>>15256758

Wich version?

What i want is a fan-made coompilation of all versions so that we can finally have a single version of resident evil to play instead of leaving it up to preference.

>>15256788

I got that it still looks like shit.

>>15256809

You could try emulating Deadly Silence since it has updated models. Or the Saturn Version.

>>15256029

I think Capcom would have a lot of freedom in a new Outbreak game because they can make new characters and areas, besides the current Outbreak cast. Perhaps one or two of those would be interesting enough to become main characters and locations in a new RE game.

>>15256093

I don't expect Capcom to make another fixed camera game.

The last new fixed camera RE game came out in 2002. There was almost zero chance of keeping that style in a brand new game, and Capcom had to add zoomed in 16:9 mode and a new control scheme in the remasters just for people being idiots with the old games.

I'm not under the impression that the camera angle is what makes the game. I think people put too much emphasis on it.

>tank controls defense force

Ebing

>>15256852

I can only defend them to a certain point, not sure what's the gripe in any case, probably the thing most people hate about those is the inability to quick turn in some of them.

>>15256852

>youre not allowed to have different games, everything must be the same shit that panders to me!

>>15256852

>stop liking things I don't like

>>15256179

FPS control is objectively more flexible and natural than tank controls though. Tank controls are artificial difficulty. There's nothing wrong with having full control over your character's movement.

>>15256625

Obtuse doesn't mean complicated.

>>15256849

It's kind of been on my radar but I didn't find the opportunity to fit it between bits of backlog. I've seen a blurb claiming it lets you play it like a stealth game and I wonder how true this is.

>>15256852

Not as epic as the Tomm Hulett defense force who prefers blanket shitposts over actual retorts.

>>15256859

The thing people hate about them is that at the time they were the popular type of game. It resulted in a whole bunch of clones that were all garbage and not designed with the control limitations in mind. Plus RE games came out too fast and close together. Between 1996 and 2004 12 Resident Evil games came out. That is nearly 2 a year plus Silent Hill and all the clones. People just got sick of it the same way they got sick of Mega Man which had 6 entries on the NES alone.

>>15256868

> Tank controls are artificial difficulty.

>im too useless to learn how to use these controls, therefore is hard!

>>15256844

That looks fucking appalling. The juxtaposition of the super hi-res models against the pre-rendered backgrounds is jarring and grating as fuck.

>>15256837

Nah, I meant how it feels different. After RE4, that shoulder camera makes it feels like action game where you are in full control and being responsive and with reduced view of nearly what your character sees. Older RE fixed-camera somehow makes you feels like a survivor of a bad ordeal. I don't know, it feels like horror movies where you watch characters do things and stuffs.

Also newer RE feels sterile, safe, and clean, but not alive. Older RE feels dirty and dangerous, but somehow alive. Maybe it is the art direction or the modern graphics and lazy devs goes full particles and "blob monsters are scary lolz" instead of bloody, gory, and dirty.

>>15256868

>Tank controls are artificial difficulty

Using this logic is retarded any game could be reduced in this way. The game just has to be designed with the player limitations in mind.

>>15256852

It really must take actual autism to want tank controls and shitty camera angles back.

They don't even add more tension to the game, just make it more tedious to control your character and more tedious as you wait for zombies to come onto screen. You can get just as many jump scares and I would argue a better atmosphere giving you the perspective your character has with the added benefit of actually knowing where your gun is pointing and an even bigger benefit of being able to have a more detailed environment with more interactions.

>>15256864

>>15256866

This is the tank control fag argument as well.

>>15256877

>Tank controls are tedious and the opposite of fun, and that's a good thing!

>t. autism

>>15256872

Stealth is the only real option, combat is almost non-existent, is basically a Clock Tower horror game, you are supposed to hide, fetch items here and there, learn the story, etc.

>>15256868

The thing about FPS controls is they are basically tank controls but turning uses a slightly differen scheme, for something with fixed camera angles you either go simple 2D controls or tank, otherwise it may be disorienting between screens (ie, DMC1), BTW, did you know RE4 has tank controls?

>>15256876

I recall being quite pissed at Parasite Eve 2 ditching their original combat system in favor of a RE thing with some RPG elements, the thing is at least in my case tank controls became quite intuitive.

>>15256889

>Tank controls are tedious and the opposite of fun, and that's a good thing!

>inplying

Nigger, if youre not able to master something nor find it fun, is your own fucking fault, theres lots of people that have mastered and enjoyed these games, but no, lets make them dissapear because its not run-run shooty-shooty.

>>15256891

Yeah it's funny people don't realize RE4+ still have tank controls just the camera is placed in a different position.

>>15256895

Exactly I don't want every single horror game to play like classic RE. However I would like a new one of those every few years or so. The same way I wouldn't want every action game to play like Dark Souls, or every platformer to play like Mario.

>>15256877

>im too useless to learn how to use these controls

Nop, as I told you, it's not complicated. Tank controls are absolutely simple, however they limit your character's proficiency in a non-organic way. Humans see through their own eyes, not some invisible surveillance camera. That's just unnatural.

>>15256887

There are better ways to address character limitations. For example the panic threshold in Red Orchestra 2 and Haunting Grounds that blurs your vision when your character can't take it anymore.

>>15256891

I'm not defending RE4 here. I'm defending games like Condemned.

>>15256889

>This is the tank control fag argument as well.

lol

I don't even care about tank controls, in fact I used regular controls in games that allowed to change them, like Silent Hill 2 or REmake. I'm just not a massive faggot that spergs out about how other people play games.

>>15256904

At least in RE4 you can actually see forward.

>>15254766

>What are you playing?

Dead space 3, i beat 1 and 2 multiple times on all platforms available and when 3 released i heard it was a travesty so i didn't even pirate it, but they were giving it away for free on xbox and i finally gave it a try, it's not half bad, sure the story is retarded but the gameplay is great, i'm having fun with the weapon crafting even though i still don't know what the fuck am i doing, currently i have a plasma cutter that fires acid and shoots as fast as a machinegun and a shotgun with an electric flamethrower mounted underneath, they went full retard with the weapons and it's a blast.

>What are you buying?

Thinken of buying Metro 2033, i've heard redux was more of a remake than a remaster and that i should play the original one instead and ignore last light completely, is it true or did i get memed?

>Hype for something?

REmake 2.

>Is there any hope for survival horror games?

No.

>Dino Crisis remake y/n?

Hell no, at least not while capcom is still using their godawful new engine, it's great for the monsters but their humans just look off, i don't know how to explain it but they look unhinged or something, just look at leon or the roastie from dmc 5.

>>15256905

>however they limit your character's proficiency in a non-organic way. Humans see through their own eyes, not some invisible surveillance camera. That's just unnatural.

By your absolutely retarded argument, all fucking games should be first person then, because thats the way we view things, and movement should not be dependant of point of view.

>>15256809

That makes absolutely no sense, you'd basically be playing the original Resident Evil with the best quality possible. if you're doing it correctly there's no reason for it to look bad. Unless you're using some type of messed up HD-CRT or you don't understand the difference between component and composite video.

>>15256881

The camera can change the mood like you said, but it doesn't make it not a horror game. Dead Space is over the shoulder and it does a good job at atmosphere, whereas Code Veronica is fixed camera (that slides around at times like on a fixed rail) but is the most action heavy classic RE game that exists.

RE4 feels like an action game because it is an action game. Nothing more. Most of the game is entering a new area and then killing everything because it is required.

>>15256919

I still enjoy third person view survival horrors with awful controls, I'm just sick of people shitting on REmake 2 for having no tank controls.

>>15256905

>better

No that is just what you like more. Having bullshit covering my screen drives me absolutely insane.

>>15256910

In old RE you can see exactly what you are supposed to see. You are supposed to play the games slowly and be mindful of what you are walking into.

>>15256924

Yeah it's one of those late-stage Sony Wegas that goes up to 1080i.

>>15256844

What type of scaling are you using on the backgrounds?

>>15256937

Can't remember did this a few weeks ago.

>>15256935

>I'm just sick of people shitting on REmake 2 for having no tank controls.

God forbid that people want the remake of resident evil 2 to be like resident evil 2, it is a sin and its impossible anyone could possibly want the classic games back.

>>15256935

REmake2 still looks great and I'm glad we will finally have a behind the back horror RE. Like what was promised in a lot of the RE4 betas. However I still would have prefered a brand new fixed camera horror game made now.

>>15256936

>that is just what you like more

Better or not, it's objectively less game-y and more realistic.

>You are supposed to play the games slowly and be mindful of what you are walking into.

Can be done in FPS/over the shoulder view too if you know anything about level design.

>>15256939

It's a remake, not an HD remaster. Actually I'm glad for that, remasters are boring especially when the old game is still playable.

>>15256936

>>15256905

>Yeah it's one of those late-stage Sony Wegas that goes up to 1080i.

Okay that's definitely a problem. You either need to find an SD crt with component, S-Video or RGB scart if you live in Europe. Or if you want to use high definition displays than you need better scaling. Something like a framemeister or open source scan converter. Personally I think Final Fantasy 7 and RE1 backgrounds look amazing with the OSSC outputting them at 5x native resolution with hybrid scanlines.

>>15256715

>At first it was kind of annoying dealing with the jump scares, but now I see that the parts where nothing is happening are really tense due to the threat of a jump scare and I can appreciate that.

Indeed, and this was used to great effect in the second game, the chapter where you revisit the ishimura is the scariest in the whole franchise because you can clearly hear and see necros crawling around, and if you've played the first game beforehand you're fully expecting to get jumped in a few rooms, namely decontamination and where the hunter was created, but they don't bother to attack you until near the end where you get ambushed by 2 enhanced brutes in a corridor without proper lighting.

>I am also playing on Hard and was already having ammo trouble before leaving Chapter 1.

Stick to the plasma cutter, all the other weapons are shit, the PC kills with 2-3 shots and necros are guaranteed to drop at least 3 so unless you're shooting at the body you shouldn't run out of ammo, especially in chapter 1.

Turn off the music if you haven't already done so, it adds nothing to the game and it can be a lifesaver in the second game if you're playing on hardcore.

>>15256948

>Better or not, it's objectively less game-y and more realistic.

More realistic =/= better. In most cases more realistic leads to a shittier experience. It's half the reason why the entire western game industry is a complete joke. Nobody is arguing that fixed camera is the best way objectively to make games and that all horror games should be made like that. Just that it is their favorite way and it hasn't been done in forever so they would like a new one.

>>15256991

What fucking horror games do you play that are realistic?

>>15256991

Not gonna lie, I really liked CoF. I know that's an unpopular opinion but like. Shit was spoopy the first time I played it. Jump scares done about as close to right as it can get.

Anyone else have played Hellnight? is an old game but the scares are still there.

>>15257020

I would love to but PAL games look weird and washed out on my MM3'd PSone. Would love any help on how to fix that, by the by…

>>15254770

Anon nigga.. REmake is 16 years old bro

>>15257022

I recommend you emulate it instead.

>>15257000

Realistic characters, not realistic scenario sweetie. Survival horror characters are common people who are vulnerable to treats.

>>15257011

I'm more scared of jumpscares than the enemies themselves. What a waste of good design. Some people have strong nerves but I don't.

>>15257036

That isn't even the argument we were having. We were arguing over game mechanics that are more "realistic" not characterization or writing. Just keep moving those goalposts, maybe eventually we'll get to should horror games be scary.

>>15257022

What type of video cable are you using?

>>15256809

Have you tried playing it on a PS3 and adjusting the smoothness settings of the PS1 emulator?

>>15254766

>What are you playing?

Trying my luck with some old RPG Maker Horror Games. Indie stuff like that is one of the few things which still manages to be genuinely scary because there's no trailers and other assorted stuff to give away 99% of the story.

>What are you buying?

Nothing. My backlog still is full enough as it is.

>Is there any hope for survival horror games

It's too tough for normalfags to handle, so you better expect some more "narrative-based" gameplay.

>>15255811

>Detention

That one is still on my list, but I am afraid (hue) that it will be another cheap side-scroller like Lone Survivor

>>15257050

>We were arguing over game mechanics that are more "realistic" not characterization or writing.

Yes, I'm talking strictly about the physical and mental strength of survival horror protags that should directly affect the controls and gameplay. Nothing to do with characterization or writing other than the protag is typically a normal person little to untrained in combat.

>>15257029

It isn't the same comfy feeling anon

>>15257054

An S-Video one. Pirated obviously, who the fuck would pay for a game that's 20+ years old and impossible to find NTSC and Jap games look fine, just PAL ones look all purpley and blurry.

>>15255923

>>15257053

Siren is amazing, sadly the gameplay is quite crappy. I don't like the puzzles, combat, and how enemies can't be killed.

>>15257069

Does your TV actually support pal color decoding?

>>15257062

Then it sounds like you are arguing for worse controls since you will be controlling an average person. Maybe your character should just randomly trip. If they get hit in the head they should have a chance to just be permanently disabled.

>>15257061

I hated lone survivor and like this one well enough, so there's that. Gameplay wise it does look similar, but Detention is primarily riddle oriented.

>>15256415

A survival horror game where you point and click to move, interact and shoot, is that hard to understand?

>there were point and clicks for consoles retard

None that were popular because it's not a good mechanic for controllers

>>15257071

>sadly the gameplay is quite crappy.

Outside of combat being a bit too stiff I disagree. Shibito not beind killable solves the issue combat-based Survival Horror games have where you can clear an area and take your time walking around afterwards. The puzzles, to me, were never too hard outside of solving the first loop by finding all the hidden switches. Even the infamous wet towel puzzle was something I didn't realize was a thing until afterwards because i Just hit the guy with a tire iron.

>>15257226

>None that were popular because it's not a good mechanic for controllers

Fucking Clock Tower

>>15257303

>Fucking Clock Tower

And by this I mean the controls were ass so I'm agreeing.

>>15257011

>unpopular opinion

Nah, most people at least have a mild appreciation for it. I think it's good but it has some deep flaws. At least the faggiest jumpscare is over and done in the first 2 minutes.

>>15256914

I think the not-redux metro 2033 was better, one of the reasons is that they added instant kill death button for sneak attack in redux.

Or I could be mistaken and mix it up with last light, but my point still stands that original 2033 is better. Also the watch is better in original.

Last light is pretty decent but I enjoyed 2033 more.

>>15257918

a deceased shindig

>>15257089

>since you will be controlling an average person

Average person, not a disabled person.

>>15257942

I was kinda hoping for a terminated celebration

>>15257918

Edgy gay weebshit.

>>15257918

I couldn't really get into that game. Really wanted to since it looked neat. But I didn't feel like continuing after getting a few hours into it.

>>15257918

Dozens of bad endings, i played it way back then on my psp and i got 2 of the bad endings in the first hour, one for not avoiding a ghost girl and another for doing the most logical choice: not splitting up and not leaving a cute girl alone.

>>15257918

Lots of cute girls dying, edginess, and bad ends galore.

Especially the anime, fuck that shit.

I'd love to see a Gotcha Force rerelease with online trades/battles, but I know Capcom would fuck it up.

>>15257918

buttering poopers. and a bretty gud game.

the visual novel sequel though? eehhhhh

>>15263195

Yes. Give yourself some time to get used to the controls and be patient. You'll have a good time.