f91aee No.15237709
When is that steam version of world out already? I want to hunt some monsters like a white man I am.
34e474 No.15237728
>>15237709
Supposedly this month, so the Denuvo-free version should be acquirable by the end of September. That said, you're still better off just grabbing PPSSPP and sticking with FU/P3rd.
5136b9 No.15237799
>>15237709
>wants to play world
I'll save you the money/time waiting for a crack
>go to jewtube
>click on video of retard hunting [monster]
>hold disconnected controller/KB+M in front of yourself
>mindlessly drool and mash buttons while the guy on screen mops the helpless monster
The game plays it's self and there is no threat of dying, so don't fucking bother.
4bf0c0 No.15237815
>>15237799
that post only gets more true each mantle they add.
5136b9 No.15237862
>>15237815
if Mon Hun veterans are good at something, it's noticing patterns and we can usually see this shit coming a mile away.
921add No.15237897
>>15237728
>Denuvo-free version should be acquirable by the end of September
It's a shame Voksi got v&, he was planning on starting work on it day 1 because he has a grudge against Capcom, and he's usually pretty quick to get them out. We might have seen a crack by the 10th or 11th, maybe even on release day if we were lucky. Now, who knows how long it'll take. ***
3f662d No.15238003
Hey, OP, wanted to tell you last thread but I completely forgot, your 4U download link in the OP post is fugged.
9e10bf No.15238173
>World sold 8mill copies and is still going
I want to die
3f662d No.15238192
>>15238173
>steam
>top selling
>the first two games on the list
>world
>world deluxe edition
4bf0c0 No.15238834
>>15238774
>you can ignore monsters having braindead AI
>you can ignore constant staggers from the monster
>ignore the bloated oversaturated map design built around scoutflies
There's a limit to how much you can ignore during gameplay.
4bf0c0 No.15238859
>>15238857
Why not play dauntless then, you can already ignore what makes every game bad
3f662d No.15238872
>>15238859
I mean, the gameplay in Dauntless is not completely awful, if you like bootleg Dark Souls 2 with with better hitboxes. And there's a couple of monsters with interesting mechanics. everything else is dogshit
d8c747 No.15238941
>Shitpost constantly
>No ban
>State actual opinions
>Some faglet mod is triggered
Amazing. Kill yourself you jannynigger.
bc13e1 No.15239001
>>15238941
>defending world's legitimate design flaws
>mentioning d*untless
526063 No.15239007
>>15237815
Theres never any defending the mantles.
They are just pure shit on a sticks made for the mentally handicapped players to use.
Hate how I dont have the option to turn off scoutflies on missions either.
>>15238173
>Gonna fight the Behemoth with my pal later when it comes out.
Feels good man
Probably gonna try out lance for the first time in 3 or 2 the last time I acutally used lance was 3U MH games because of it.
d8c747 No.15239034
>>15239001
I am still going to play it, already bought it and don't give two fucks. No little 5'?" board tyrant is going to stop me.
>Implying I mentioned that
I don't know what it is, I have no fucking idea and I don't care. Some fag mentioned it, not me.
bc13e1 No.15239083
>>15239034
All I'm saying is that your opinions are fucking wrong AND retarded. Enjoy your Denuvo, retard.
d8c747 No.15239105
>>15239083
Enjoy being a soy-based lifeform who will never be tall, handsome nor white.
bc13e1 No.15239169
>>15239105
I can tell you're a shitskin by the way you type.
921add No.15239176
https://archive.is/UafFL
https://archive.is/DuKx2
In case you haven't seen yet, World needs a GTX 1070 Ti to get 60 fps, with medium settings, in 1080p. It's also unstable and prone to frequent crashes. Simply amazing, MT Framework is famous for being able to perform well on toasters, and this is the best Capcom can do.
3f662d No.15239201
>>15239176
What the fuck? I've seen PC gameplay, and the texture quality is absolute ass, the environmental stuff and flora looks mediocre at best. There's absolutely 0 reason for it to run that poorly, if the PS4 and Xbone can run it at 30fps on hardware that was barely good enough for 2014.
13ee2f No.15239258
>>15239201
Created for consoles and ported to pc. Just another title to add to the list of shit pc ports.
526063 No.15239277
>>15239105
>>15239169
Why can't we accept each others differences and all be friends? Unless if you're from /leftypol/, /furry/, or /cuteboys/ We all are here because of our love for MH and thats all that matters in this thread.
4a0ef9 No.15239292
>>15239277
>Why can't we accept each others differences and all be friends?
>except for these people who I don't like
I guess that's why.
3f662d No.15239297
>>15239258
I think Denuvo has something to do with it, but I'm not sure if the "demo" version given to streamers had Denuvo. I've seen a couple of streamers play the game, and for them it ran extremely well even maxed out. Shit nigger, if the journos just got the game early, their version definitely included Denuvo, and they're the ones apparently getting all of these performance issues. or Crapcom just blows dick at coding, and it took them 6 months to barely port a piece of shit game without any updates
34e474 No.15239842
>>15237862
Never much cared for Jurassic 2, but I loved that guy. Great role, and the actor managed to sell it really damn well from what I recall.
>>15238003
Well shit, you're right. Any Anons have it and can reupload?
>>15238857
But the handhelds have been the best entries in the series.
d8c747 No.15240085
>>15239169
Project more niglet.
22d9c8 No.15240101
Guys, should I get MHW for PC?
I'd just buy the MHG port if I had a Switch.
6af4bc No.15240130
>>15240101
>>15240120
Gen Ultimate is coming to Switch in the west. It's a port of XX, which was also on the 3DS. You will need to buy a Nintendo Online subscription if you want to play Gen Ultimate online on Nintendo Switch. Safe to say Capcom really wants the west to buy World on PC by releasing GenU one month before paid online for Switch in the west.
34e474 No.15240138
>>15240101
Once the Denuvo-free edition is released, you can grab that. Don't bother with the Steam edition.
>I'd just buy the MHG port if I had a Switch.
MHG port was for the original Wii, not the Switch. Switch just has a port of XX.
e658ec No.15240627
Behemoth fight is a fresh kind of hell
>multiplayer is hard since most of the players don't know how the fuck to go behind a comet to avoid blast
>most players don't even notice when a tracking tornado is being cast and just stand keep hitting the monster causing other players to move the fight elsewhere just to avoid wind damage
>the one lance player I got never attacked the head and had no defense
>they don't even try to protect the fallen comets and just let behemoth destroy it.
>the idiots with temporal either die from being zapped by lightning or the ecliptic heug explosion
>people seem to have forgotten that bleed can be stopped by jerky or crouching
I just wanted to bop a behemoth in the head with a hammer till it dies.
526063 No.15240859
>>15240627
FUCK BEHEMOTH WITH A THOUSAND FUCKING CHEESE GRATERS
The fucking cuntlord of a beast hits like a truck, has an insane amount of HP and can snipe me across the map with both the nergigante lunge and magic attacks.
That fucking Elliptical Meteror happens so quickly and I have no chance in hell of surviving it if I are too far away from a comet which happened last time because the others were destroyed somehow.
Other than that he is fun to fight even though me and a friend fought him a dozen times and never won a single time on his second quest, closest we got was his final stage back in nergys nest.
6af4bc No.15240970
>>15240859
>>15240627
You mean it's actually a monster that poses a threat that can kill you in Monster Shitter World?
526063 No.15240994
>>15240970
Its bullshittingly hard anon
Its borderline unfair how difficult it is.
I even seen it cart 2 good players like nothing at the same time on multiple occasions due to its fast attacks and special moves.
d8c747 No.15241026
>>15239842
Mechanically they're fine, but playing anything on a handheld is pure hellish shit.
e658ec No.15241062
>>15240970
it's fun, it has a charge that's can take off two thirds of your health. Has little startup and heads about as fast if not a bit faster then Barroth in older games if I were to compare. Can do both fire and lightning blight on top of bleed. I think the MMO mechanics really did it wonders too since you need to keep the player that has aggro alive. More so since if ecliptic is casted that player can get wiped in camp.
>>15240994
This guy is just bad. It's not that hard. It's just about having teammates that don't walk into insta death.
659b45 No.15241076
Is the behemoth quest temporary or permanent?
e658ec No.15241085
>>15241076
it's a special assignment so it's permanent. There is an event extreme version out at the end of the month apparently.
471b4f No.15241088
you can use the jump emote to avoid behemoths big meteor kind of trivializes the main mechanic
e658ec No.15241097
>>15241088
From what I've seen items are disabled during it. I know whetstone, farcasters and mantles were. Got a webm or source?
58bdfe No.15241099
>MHW PC port is a dumpster fire
>It took them nearly a year for them to light said fire
Welp, I already put my 300+ hours into MHW; I'm happy that Gen ULT comes out at the end of the month. The only reason wanted the PC version was to play with a friend who never liked the grinding of the main series, and the QOL improvements attracted a lot of people I knew on the fence.
but eh…They're sure as hell ain't gonna pay 60 bucks for a sub-par port.
526063 No.15241112
>>15241062
>It's not that hard. It's just about having teammates that don't walk into insta death.
Are you on ps4 anon? Can you help me out then?
Are you good enough so that we could pull it off in a duo or not?
299fde No.15241122
I caught a running cactus thingy, must of came with the update. It just runs around like a sperg though
471b4f No.15241179
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15241097
sorry for jewtube
526063 No.15241237
>>15241179
Why cant you just hooktube it?
471b4f No.15241243
>>15241237
hooktube got gutted and just plays youtube videos as normal now
6af4bc No.15241433
>>15241122
Sounds like a cactuar.
6af4bc No.15241500
>>15241264
Learn to read nigger! Where in my fucking post did I shill for Monster Shitter World feat. Denuvo from Denuvo May Cry series!? I'm telling you guys Gen Ultimate on Switch will require paid online. It says so on the Nintendo page.
4bf0c0 No.15242155
>>15241500
It's really a tossup which game was worse. On one hand XX was a pile of garbage with anime super moves that completely trivialized the game, but on the other hand world was a piece of trash with massive casualization and anime super mantles.
3f662d No.15242173
>>15242155
I mean, XX at least had over twice the amount of monsters that World has, so it's much, much better than World.
4d963d No.15242196
>>15242155
It really isn't. XX is a shitty MH game. World is not a monster hunter game.
34e474 No.15242566
>>15240859
>nergigante lunge
So it's fully telegraphed and easy to dodge?
>>15241026
I've never gotten this. I presume there's just some breed of foreigner with obscenely huge hands, like the kind the original Xbox's controllers seem to have been made for? I've never had trouble with any of the major handheld devices myself. Still, even in that case you have PPSSPP now, and Citra is slowly but surely making progress.
>>15241099
>play with a friend who never liked the grinding of the main series
If he thinks the main series is a grind, he'd fucking hate World then. Jesus christ that shit is unforgivable.
>>15242155
I'd say calling it a tossup is giving World a bit too much credit - XX, for all it's bullshit and stupidity at least vaguely resembles a Monster Hunter game. World might not be bad for what it is, but what it is isn't Monster Hunter.
a8daf9 No.15242576
>>15242155
>On one hand XX was a pile of garbage with anime super moves that completely trivialized the game
XX was a massive improvement over the shitfest that was 4U. Arts weren't a waste of time like wystones and there was no relic shittery or Guild Quest grinding.
778510 No.15242589
fuck i cant wait for world on pc, i feel like this is that multiplayer dragon's dogma people wanted from crapcom
It actually introduced me to whole mh franchise and i had tons of fun playing mhfu and mh4u with my buddy, can't imagine playing this game solo or with randoms though
526063 No.15242598
>>15242566
Yeah, but it usually targets me and gets the literal drop on me whenever I back off the sharpen my weapon.
>>15242566
>>15242196
Saying that MHW isnt MH is dumb, you fags need to pull your heads out of your asses.
Thats like saying persona 3 isnt persona after coming out after persona 2. Which was in that case persona 3 is WAY more different than persona 2.
Its very different but in this case because MH is way more faithful to its previous games at least when it comes to what makes the game fundamentally MH. You can easily look at the game and think, oh, thats MH but with some various changes here and there, with no problem at all. Its not like MH games added mechanics before.
So stop being massive fucking manginas over the fact that MHW isnt exactly what you want it to be, some things change in life and you have to accept the obvious truth thats right in your face.
34e474 No.15242603
>>15242589
>can't imagine playing this game solo
Oh man, you are cheating yourself if you don't play through Freedom Unite solo, there are few experiences more rewarding.
>>15242598
>it usually targets me
Well yeah, what else would it target?
>Saying that MHW isnt MH is dumb, you fags need to pull your heads out of your asses.
>Thats like saying persona 3 isnt persona after coming out after persona 2
But that is exactly the case, you even just said so yourself:
>Which was in that case persona 3 is WAY more different than persona 2.
>You can easily look at the game and think, oh, thats MH but with some various changes here and there, with no problem at all
To me it honestly looks more like one of the MonHun clones, like God Eater or Toukiden
>So stop being massive fucking manginas over the fact that MHW isnt exactly what you want it to be, some things change in life and you have to accept the obvious truth thats right in your face.
Except I don't think there's anyone denying that there's a change. There's a difference between "accepting that things have changed" and "being happy that things have changed."
778510 No.15242608
>>15242603
it wasn't easy being my first mh game, person i played with also had no prior experience, HR tiggy raped our asses before we got gudder
526063 No.15242615
>>15242603
>"accepting that things have changed"
vs
>"being happy that things have changed."
Ah, I see what you mean now.
I can enjoy MHW because its actually a geuninely fun game despite the changes.
But its still downright wrong to say that MHW isnt MH because its factually incorrect and inauthentic, its just different thats all.
>>15242608
My first MH game was 3U and unsuprisingly I only started to get raped once I got into G-Rank.
Its maybe because I'm pretty competent at arpgs.
34e474 No.15242631
>>15242608
Same here, but that's precisely why it was fun - few things have topped the exhilaration from when I finally took down Village 4 Tiggy.
>>15242615
>I can enjoy MHW because its actually a geuninely fun game despite the changes.
If you can still find it to be fun for what it is, more power to you. For me, I just feel like I wasted 200 hours that I could've spent on any other number of the hundreds of titles filling up my backlog.
>But its still downright wrong to say that MHW isnt MH because its factually incorrect and inauthentic, its just different thats all.
In the same way it's "factually incorrect" to say Persona 3 isn't Persona - they share a property name, and at least fall within the same general genre (unlike something along the lines of, say, the Airu village MonHun games), but they've lost so much of what made the series that birthed them appealing to a significant portion of the fanbase that it really isn't the same game anymore. There's a reason World by and large appeals to people who don't like Monster Hunter, and why so many Monster Hunter fans don't like World.
58bdfe No.15242943
>>15242615
>MHW is fun
"I guess?" is all I can say to that, I spent around 300 hours on it, so something must kept me playing, I'll admit, some of the QOL changes were great and the Movesets being ripped from what worked from Generations/XX helped quite a bit.
Though some of the changes were awful, and have me yearning for some of the charm and challenge that the older games had, and some changes were absolute missed opportunity incarnate or retarded;
My biggest issues with the game thus far is basically this; Mantles, Mantles while fun, and change up gameplay in a way that's less invasive than, let's say, Styles, weren't used intelligently, the only mantle worth-a-damn in terms of not breaking the game was the airborne mantle, just because it's like the aerial style, but without gimping your moveset, the others are buffs that offer nothing, or buffs that offer too damn much.
Another issue are the maps, the maps are too damn big, and certain hunts become a fucking chore, don't get me wrong, some ideas are interesting, like having the monster chase you everywhere, but the game is clearly built around scoutflies, the additional hazards and environmental traps though being used in conjunction with the slingshot are interesting, and it's core I have no issue with.
Another problem is the lack of risk-reward when it comes to territory fights, an interesting mechanic that is instead used to cheese the fuck out of fights. What would have been a cool change would have been having an apex predator invade, kill the weaker monster, and get buffed if you didn't break up the fight with a dung-bomb, hell, they could have even made certain drops occur ONLY WHEN the apex predator won it's fight and get it's buff, making it a choice between waiting for 2 monsters to finish dunking it out, and risk fighting a stronger one, or just simply telling them to fuck off. Instead, you're just left with one monster wailing on another, and just jerking around until one monster does more damage to another.
Another issue is the lack of meaningful content, and weapons having little to no unique looks to them, but that's a development issue, and I won't quite complain about it.
Ideally (and what I think is likely to happen) I'd like a Portable/Switch-esque spin-off in the same vain as MHP3rd with some of MHW's mechanics, mixed in with classic MH tropes (such as loading between areas)
Because not all of MHW is bad, it's going through the same growing pains that MHTRI had.
(also fuck the impact/slash animations in MHW, the particles are fucking weak as hell, which blows my mind, considering monster's flames and explosions are top-knotch)
526063 No.15242953
>>15242631
>>15242943
I'm not going to read 58bdfe's wall of text but do you guys want to actually play the game and fight the behemoth with me?
Its actually pretty damn fun and a difficult fight.
58bdfe No.15242962
>>15242953
Man, fuck you, I'd have to renew my PSN (again)
Maybe next time, gotta save up my Shekles for ultimate.
526063 No.15242987
>>15242962
The game gave me a free 2 day trial for some reason and I went and used that so I didnt have to pay a single cent.
Try and see if that works for you.
6af4bc No.15243069
>>15242943
If the maps were designed intelligently no loading can still be done with smaller maps. This is my preference of being a guy who loves to wander wilderness IRL. Having hiding zones to run away from monsters to heal/eat would help get around using loading zones and make smoke bombs useful to hide with. And not all areas will be open to travel. You can still climb any tree or any non-slippery wall then leap off of them, but the grappling hook has to go. Instead I have two propositions for getting around without it
First there's paths between zones which will have both hiding spots and resources points. You harvest resource points once except for wood-cutting, mining, and fishing and you pocket that bushel or batch of that type of item. This is useful for when you just need to only collect herbs and blue mushrooms to make potions when you're out. Also the game's artwork if it is for Switch will be stylized enough you can see and identify the botany you can harvest based on how it looks and reacts when you touch it. As for resources themselves where they spawn and what kind spawns is the RNG rather than go to the same spot and harvesting 3-5 times. You can identify what you need before harvesting rather than pick up pointless junk that fills your limited inventory space. Climbing trees is also how you get a lot of your seeds now. And if you're a gunner they make great hiding spots you can leap off of and do an aerial attack.
The other proposition is that zones and paths can have hidden "shortcuts" to traverse between areas faster. If it's a shortcut like climbing over a mountain, the screen will fade to black and you fall to the other side. But for the most part shortcuts are paths that cut through the middle or under the map like making a tree fall over to create a bridge over a ravine or for Deserted Island the underwater ruin where you fought Caedus that goes under the island from base camp to the cove in Area 7, then to the beach in Area 10. And monsters can use shortcuts too to hide from you. You can also create or destroy shortcuts in the hunting ground with the right kind of tools and discover new areas you've never seen before. Monsters can also make or break shortcuts like collapsing tunnels via landslides if they're desperate to break your pursuit. Planning what shortcuts to make or break will be critical for hauling quests.
Instead of "le open world see that mountain may may" making hunting grounds more like a solid connected dungeons rather than individual rooms would have been a more intelligent step. There's still enough natural barriers to keep you and the monster from going everywhere. So you both have to use your wits to figure out the fastest path and shortcut to get around each other. Flying and monsters still tire out and need to land to catch their breath. Likewise a raptor can only walk wherever you can. So you can pursue them through their shortcut tunnels this time.
But then again, this is designing a hunting ground where you have to think about how to use it and not an buggy open world for casual shitters to derp and follow the glowing bugs to find monster.
22c98d No.15243088
>>15237567
Hey /mhg/. I got Both God Eaters and Toukiden Kiwami for my bloodborne box since apparently MHW is casualcore. How is the experience comparable between the games to a (you)-approved MH game?
526063 No.15243336
>fighting behemoth for the hundreth fucking time
>finally get it to the point where it uses its final elliptical meteor
>no comets to be found
>DUTY FAILED
I never felt so utterly defeated and downright mindbroken in my life.
1e27b2 No.15243536
>>15241179
>sorry for jewtube
>not using invidio.us
a8daf9 No.15243539
>>15243088
Don't know about toukiden but God Eater is similar in idea only. Gameplay wise its very different from monster hunter
b00a00 No.15243682
>>15243088
Nice, so you ended up buying even worse games.
Good Job.
God Eater is a different game almost entirely gameplay wise, the game revolves around the burst mechanic and keeping it on is key for maximum damage as well as better movement overall, changing between gun mode and blade mode is vital for this, in short you want to always be on the offensive changing between ranged to close combat as needed, that being said only a few monster are somewhat difficult, GER has some major improvements to the burst system but then GE2 doesn't have them but has blood arts, which are pretty much what you have in MHXX expect it doesn't gimp you.
So basically both games have something the other one doesn't and is stuck in each of the respective games that honestly both games should have on their own. Hopefully God Eater 3 will be decent at least.
Oh you can make your own bullets in God Eater, it gets pretty wild as you can make anything you want and you can mess around with it as much as you'd like.
I made a bullet that sets up little sentries in the air that then shoot piercing bullets that will seek out any enemy for a short period of time, The ammo consumption for it was relatively short so I could pump out like 10 of them if I had full ammo, so it becomes a constant bombardment that if it hits the monsters weak points could kill him outright, which is very useful since in later missions you will always be fighting at least 2-3 large monsters.
As for Toukiden I heard the first one is pretty much a complete inferior clone to any monster hunter and from the looks of it I would have to agree.
I played Toukiden 2 however and it was enjoyable, it makes itself stand out unlike it's predecessor, still the game was pretty easy overall and the only reason you will spend a long time killing monsters in that game is because every single one of them is bloated with HP. It's worth a playthrough at least and checking out high rank.
But you bought kiwami so, good luck to you.
b00a00 No.15243694
>>15243682
I posted the wrong image and forgot to split my text so it didn't look like a blob, woopsy.
36b3e0 No.15243700
ITT: Salty poorfags who can't afford video games.
22c98d No.15243701
>>15243682
>still mad about MHW
36b3e0 No.15243725
>>15243701
I can promise you all of the people butthurt about MHW are non-whites or underage who only emulate.
d1534d No.15243740
3cd5e5 No.15243744
what is the best mw game and why is it mhw?
22c98d No.15243756
>>15243740
>>>>/NeoGaf/
>not
>>>/ResetEra/
>>15243682
Thanks for sharing your insight on Toukiden but you just couldn't avoid posturing could you.
36b3e0 No.15243818
>>15243740
>>15243756
>Haha I told that bully to go back to a place he's never visited. That will show him.
Stay mad nigger.
877c7c No.15243830
>>15243818
Anecdotal observation, but I noticed a lotta niggers buy MHW when I picked it up on launch.
Spics too.
36b3e0 No.15243880
>>15243830
You must live in California. Sorry about that, Anon.
11803c No.15243883
>>15243700
I bet they don't even buy season passes
13ee2f No.15243931
>>15243883
Or even preordered it, the bastards.
7ec51d No.15243939
>>15243931
>he didn't even drop dosh for the new pay to win emote
lmoa
5136b9 No.15243997
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15239842
>I loved that guy.
He was an awesome actor. Shame his greatest scene was cut.
1f6dce No.15244006
>>15243931
>not paying a 13 year old korean boy to grind HR for you so you can get e-peen points for posting screenshots of your guild card on tumblr
5136b9 No.15244160
>>15242615
>>15242631
>>15242943
>defending any aspect of MHW
I suggest you die.
59020f No.15244240
>>15240859
>because the others were destroyed somehow.
tank needs to keep the behemoth his spin attack away from comets and pointed away from the team at all times.
if you get targeted by comet drop it near the party for when the behemoth used ecliptic meteor, if targeted by tornado run it into the wall if you can't flash it to stop the cast, but you'll have to run it into the wall for extreme behemoth.
you should have rocksteady and temporal mantles for this as DPS, rockstedy so you can run through the wind temporal for when it get hairy.
welcome to real raiding.
7ec51d No.15244491
FUCKING JHEN MOHRAN
DROP THE EARTH DRAGONGEM YOU BITCH
I ONLY NEED THE LEGS FOR THE ULTIMATE WEEABOO GREATSWORD SET
34e474 No.15244946
>>15243744
You're right, World IS the best Modern Warfare game. Too bad it's the worst Monster Hunter though.
>>15243818
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and shitposts like a duck…
>>15243997
Oh man, I never knew there was a scene like this cut from Lost World. I guess I can see that they cut it due to wanting to get to DINOSAURS as fast as possible for an impatient audience, but goddamn that's a great scene to build up Tembo's character. A real shame.
>>15244160
I was talking about Freedom Unite, hence Village 4 Tigrex.
58bdfe No.15245829
What's the best Citra build for Monster hunter Generations?
I want to transfer my homebrew'd 3ds save, and play on the big screen to grind until MHgenUltimate comes out.
Got an I7 6700k and a 1080GTX
34e474 No.15246459
>>15245829
If you can get Citra running, why not just stick with XX instead of the (((culturally enriched))) version?
0ec70e No.15246946
>>15244491
>DROP THE EARTH DRAGONGEM YOU BITCH
>wasting this much effort on High rank drops
b00a00 No.15246962
>>15245829
I can run XX just fine with only some frame drops when I either use a flash or a monster roars, for some reason Astalos also drops my frames but if I drop the resolution to native everything is fine, this is on the nightly build that is currently up to date so I'm pretty sure most builds can now run XX/Gen just fine.
5136b9 No.15247767
>>15244946
>Tembo
Yeah, he was baller and you knew he wouldn't take shit from anyone and would operate under his own rules and that ,despite being an "ebil poacher", had a moral code.
>Tigrex
>FU
forgiven.
34e474 No.15249367
>>15247767
Yeah, I remember one of Malcolm's buddies trying to guilt him constantly for "why would you want to kill T-Rex" and shit, even after he saved their lives despite them nearly getting him and everyone else killed. That extra scene really added a lot to him too, especially the bit about there being no greater insult to a man's honor than not being a gentleman, gives a fair bit of context to his actions in the rest of the film as well. A real shame that got cut, but he probably would've stolen the spotlight even more than he already did.
7f493d No.15249804
>Comet has landed
>Someone forgets to flash Bhemoth out of his fucking Kushala tornado spell
>Tornado is now on Comet
>Ecliptic Meteor
>Everyone is now boned due to one player
Or
>Final zone
>One comet has landed
>It gets destroyed due to fuckery or non tank players grabbing aggro and running around.
>Ecliptic Meteor
>Just abandon it at that point
The range of Bhemoth is insane but i must have every armor set in this game no matter the grind.
"I joined a quest in-progress just in time to see someone dumped at a camp, only to have a comet get cast on them" -Random anon from wiki
471b4f No.15249867
tanking behemoth is pretty easy with gunlance. just run around till he tries to charybneyresss someone and wyvern spike his face while hes casting then viola you're tanking and can control his movements.
6af4bc No.15250502
Insomnia is kicking in. I have a couple of monster ideas. One monster is a tireless kicking kiwi that uses it's beak to pole vault. I call this one Kikiwi-kiwi. It's armor is a feathered "rugby" uniform. The other monster I've been dreaming of is a giant tree frog that carries it's eggs on it's back. The eggs are coated with a volatile foam that causes blast blight when touched. The eggs explode when the tadpoles hatch from the eggs. The foam is also flammable and will ignite when exposed to open flames like a torch. Tree frog attacks by throwing it's babies like grenades. Tentative name is Grennaebrog.
I'm taking a break from MonHun before I get too bored hunting materials for transition armor.
778510 No.15250585
>try hunting shah dalamaur or whatever his name was
>fuck this nigga aint dying, i wonder how much hp he has
>look it up
>no more than regular dalamau-
>see his resistances
89b032 No.15250863
I'm gonna pirate World (when it gets cracked) and probably enjoy it.
34e474 No.15250898
>>15250863
>I'm gonna pirate World (when it gets cracked)
Definitely the only way I'd recommend going about it
517d3c No.15250903
>>15250863
>gimping on online because of autism for denuvo
34e474 No.15250905
>>15250903
Pirates usually can do online stuff, can't they? Not that it matters much, since World is already too easy as is even single player, no reason to make it even easier.
5f34bb No.15250906
>>15250903
>paying for a shitty game, a bad port and Denuvo all at the same time because "muh online"
89b032 No.15250910
>>15250903
>Game has online and offline component
>Making the online the preferred/mandatory way
This better not be the case.
5f34bb No.15250918
>>15250910
Silly Anon, they got rid of village/guild, you can do every quest solo or multiplayer and the game changed difficulty from solo to multiplayer by making monsters have more than double HP so the game's probably harder if you're playing with one other person than if you'd solo. You're not trying to prevent people from playing the entire game by having to git gud or play with others, are you now Anon?
For any of the fags that play World, did they ever fix the fucked up multiplayer that didn't let you play quests with others unless everyone had watched the cutscene in advance so people had to enter the quest, trigger the cutscene and then leave to rehost the quest so everyone could join?
34e474 No.15250946
>>15250910
Offline is actually the preferred way, like it is with actual Monster Hunter games as well.
>>15250918
>the game's probably harder if you're playing with one other person than if you'd solo.
Only if the other person is less skilled than you are, two equally skilled players will output more damage than the simple sum of their performance.
>did they ever fix the fucked up multiplayer that didn't let you play quests with others unless everyone had watched the cutscene in advance so people had to enter the quest, trigger the cutscene and then leave to rehost the quest so everyone could join?
Sort of - now you just need to use the SOS shit after the cut scenes. Still fucking retarded and they should just make all the cinematics skippable, but then that's just symptomatic of World's problems as a whole.
000000 No.15263491
So, what's the word on the PC port of MHW? How's the performance? Any word from any cracking groups?
921add No.15263825
>>15263491
Performance is god awful, you need at least a GTX 1070 Ti to hit stable 60fps with medium settings in 1080p. Voksi was planning on trying to crack it ASAP, starting day 1, but he got v&.
34e474 No.15263870
>>15263491
Consensus seems to be to stick with PPSSPP to run FU/P3 for PC MonHun
732e89 No.15263879
>people are supporting Denuvo
Fuck this shit indie games are really the only hope for this fucking shitty industry
WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT AAA CRASH?
d5c194 No.15263909
>>15263879
Indie is pozzed shit too, abandon all hope.
732e89 No.15263946
>>15263909
trust /agdg/ anon
526063 No.15265006
>>15263507
I had the game since january, the fuck you talkin about.
Have fun with the gaem pcfags, it was a shitload of fun for me, especially encountering and fighting new monsters for the first time
4a0ef9 No.15265035
>>15265006
I'm just desperate.
ce0fb9 No.15272382
Ok Niggers, World's PC port is gonna be the first time I play this series. (I know, tragic ain't it?)
I don't have time for "Top 10 Ways to be A Fag at the Game" videos so what things should a guy be doing from the start in order to get gud?
4bf0c0 No.15272389
>>15272382
nothing, because world is so braindead easy the game literally has an invincibility mode.
55d77d No.15272394
>>15272382
Get the Temporal Mantle and mash triangle with literally any melee weapon.
ce0fb9 No.15272418
>>15272389
It's still fun though right?
4bf0c0 No.15272423
>>15272418
god no. It's bad. Like there's no real sense of danger when fighting a monster, and the over-simplifications of a lot of the core mechanics leave the game feeling more like a hollow clone than an actual MH game.
fa1c0c No.15272436
>>15272382
>world
<first monhun
Pick one, neck yourself and then emulate P3rd pr FU.
5136b9 No.15272475
>>15272423
Enjoy control taken out of your hands as the game literally does everything for you, from pointing you where to go to what you need to do on the control non-fucking-stop.
Tale a look at what a faggot has to do just to get a SLIGHT semblance of normal gameplay. He also deliberately played super sloppy and STILL mopped the fucking monster.
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=He6z6AejD64
ce0fb9 No.15272534
>>15272475
I don't see how control is getting taken out of his hand here. Also isn't the Jagras the starting monster?
5136b9 No.15272557
>>15272534
Control is taken out of the players hand for most of what is going on, starting with most of those things in the menus being turned off being helper things. Also the fucking flies NEVER GO AWAY. The whole pinning minigame fails as well as it has all this visual bullshit but you really don't need to do jack shit but mash one button to get a high powered hit.
Here is Barroth. The dude followed a credence that he would remain still when healing, but twice when his health was low, the game AUTO forced him to heal. Also watch how the monster sleeps in front of the hunter, monsters still have the AI to go from point A to point B and don't stop to fight in hallways, and the environment actively fights against the monster.
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=IOZcWkHwmAs
b00a00 No.15272654
>>15272382
It's more challenging than 3U and even P3rd I'll say that much, atleast Low Rank to High Rank wise, but it only starts getting the wheels turning once you get to tobi, before that the game is insultingly easy. The game did suffer some casualization which is undeniable and because of that some people in here are still buttblasted over it.
Shit like the mantles aren't as over powered as people make it seem at first because the really op ones appear only post game but shit like the newer mantle they added is absolutely inexcusable.
Also healing while being able to run is pretty gay considering you can make it nearly instantaneous with speed eating.
On the plus side the combat is the best the series has ever had, implementing the arts from XX to the weapons moveset almost every weapon is viable except for the Hunting Horn which is fun but a real shame damage wise.
It's still Monster Hunter but a simplified version of it, take that as you will, if you don't like it just emulate P3rd, jump to FU if you want a challenging, though otherwise dated experience.
I really do hope they keep ramping up the difficulty when the G-rank version comes out like they have been doing with the new updates they add in.
>>15272475
>beta build made for journalists.
>Jagras which is pretty much on the same level as a Giadrome
>control prompts that only show up during your starting hour of the game
The only thing valid is the camera focusing on the monster, which did happen more than once but they ended up removing them on an update because it was meant to be a one time deal when you see a monster for the first time.
I'm glad World is finally coming to pc just so everyone can pirate it in a couple of weeks.
>>15272557
>Control is taken out of the players hand for most of what is going on
What the fuck are you on about you gave no example, you mean the menu? the menu he had access to? You mean the fact the game forces you to listen to the Handler during that whole time? I mean I agree but this only happens once and I don't even remember if it happens in the game or not, I do remember it happening in the beta.
>Also the fucking flies NEVER GO AWAY
Agreed.
>The whole pinning minigame fails
It's the same as in 4U and XX just without hints, yes they tell you what to do but again only in the starting hour, afterwords you have to do it yourself, it does last longer than it does in 4U and XX which is a negative.
>the game AUTO forced him to heal
You can see him pressing square with the first aid selected when he was holstering his weapon, this is probably some input buffering, not the game doing it.
>watch how the monster sleeps in front of the hunter
Yeah, it gets worse when you beat them to the nest and you see them just falling asleep next to you, it's really jarring.
>monsters still have the AI to go from point A to point B and don't stop to fight in hallways
Actually this was present in XX, monsters will ignore players when running away, I've had instances where I would trip a monster that was running only for him to resume his escape, something that would never happen in the rest of the series.
In World they do fight you if you provoke them in hallways, however the same issue that was present in XX remains.
No one ever mentions the absolute worst thing World has done which is making the cutscenes for it's shitty story unskippable.
ce0fb9 No.15272682
>>15272557
>Control is taken out of the players hand for most of what is going on, starting with most of those things in the menus being turned off being helper things.
I don't really know the game's systems so i can't comment on this.
> Also the fucking flies NEVER GO AWAY.
Pretty sure they are a lore thing for the hunters.
>The whole pinning minigame fails as well as it has all this visual bullshit but you really don't need to do jack shit but mash one button to get a high powered hit.
Wew, that's a lot of hot air.
>The dude followed a credence that he would remain still when healing, but twice when his health was low, the game AUTO forced him to heal.
I can clearly see in the video he stops to heal and presses the button to do it.
You're Clearly fucking lying about all this you fucking schizo.
Also if you want to complain about the game being too easy than stop sending me beginner videos from the fucking BETA you triple nigger.
6f0834 No.15272712
a61299 No.15272740
do I buy World just to support Monster Hunter on PC?
what other hope is there?
4bf0c0 No.15272747
>>15272740
No because you're not supporting monster hunter, you're supporting yolo XD streamer bait the game wearing the skin of a game you once liked.
b00a00 No.15272764
>>15272740
You should never buy a game with the idea that you're supporting a company, buy a game if you want said game.
ce0fb9 No.15272993
What's the best weapon in world?
6f0834 No.15273123
>>15272993
A gun in your mouth
5136b9 No.15273164
>>15272993
By playing the game, you'll be handed victory. There is no strategy.
ce0fb9 No.15273395
Tell you what fellas, in 24 hours I'm going to be playing monster hunter world. If it's good I'll just keep playing it and won't come back to these threads again. If it sucks then i'll come back to complain. Sound good? Great.
34e474 No.15273398
>>15272382
Honestly, playing an actual MonHun, World is designed specifically so that players don't have to git gud.
>>15272654
>It's more challenging than 3U and even P3rd I'll say that much
No? They were certainly easier than FU, but they're still worlds (heh) tougher than World.
>it only starts getting the wheels turning once you get to tobi, before that the game is insultingly easy.
If by "Tobi" you mean "Tempered Kirin"
>On the plus side the combat is the best the series has ever had
If you prefer speedier combat like in DMC or Musou type games to the slower combat of the MonHun games, sure.
>>15272740
Why would you do that? We already have Monster Hunter on PC via PCSX2, PPSSPP, and sooner or later Citra.
>>15273395
Sounds great, see you in a day or two then!
55d77d No.15273434
>>15273398
But anon, the Arch Tempered monsters are great content and well designed, who doesn't enjoy getting oneshotted by 90% of the monster's attacks? I mean, what even is artificial difficulty, is that a meme?
d5c194 No.15273475
>>15272740
You wouldn't be supporting Monster Hunter. World is basically a new IP, with only shallow connections to the series. There isn't any hope anyway, World has done so well we will likely never get a more traditional style game again.
b00a00 No.15273610
>>15273398
Yes, 3U US is insanely easy until maybe the ending of High rank thanks to that boost of 50 armor points the US release got, it only started busting my balls during G-rank.
As for p3rd I honestly can't remember a monster that gave me a challenge, Barroth was easy, Tigrex was castrated, I think I got carted once to Brute Tigrex's autistic roar but that was it.
Oh Sand Barioth was hard tough, I enjoyed making his set.
It's very clear that monster move slower than usual in that game. Even Zinogre feels slow.
I don't remember failing a quest during my entire time playing p3rd but I do remember carting, however in world I did lose quite a bit of quests to regular Nergigantes and Teostras, they catch up to you quickly so even though you can heal and run they can still get you, if every monster in world was this fast I wouldn't have a problem with the changes they made to healing.
Sadly that's not the case and Tobi is the first monster capable of being fast enough to catch the player in the act as well as doing a good amount of damage compared to the monsters that come before it. He's a wake up call. Which is what I meant.
I never had much issue with Kirin on my end, having played against kirin so many times I really knew what to do with a Greatsword, but I can see why others would have a problem.
>If you prefer speedier combat like in DMC or Musou type games to the slower combat of the MonHun games, sure
First off, I hope you aren't implying that DMC and Musou games play the same way and meant only to compare them speed wise, which is still wrong but I can understand your point.
Do you consider the changes they did since the third generation to be bad compared to previous titles? Because they sped up the combat since then and I've never seen anyone complaining. All World did combat wise was implement some of the arts found in XX to an integrated moveset making it flow much better while keeping the weapons individuality.
It's also the game where most weapons are viable, so yes, I would say that world did a good job on the combat department.
>>15273395
I would wait to pirate it since I heard dodgy things about the port but I hope everything goes fine on your end.
>>15273434
Aren't they pretty much the Apex from 4U mechanic wise?
55d77d No.15273628
>>15273610
>Aren't they pretty much the Apex from 4U mechanic wise?
They're the exact same as their normal versions, but they have more health and they oneshot you with most of their attacks, especially Kirin.
898d1a No.15273637
Any chance a Hunter will be a playable character in Smash 5? Rathalos is a boss and assist trophy.
b00a00 No.15273657
>>15273628
Ah okay, I was hoping they would at least have different attacks, that's disappointing.
I was hoping that was going to be what differentiates normal Tempered to Arch Tempered.
34e474 No.15273691
>>15273610
>Yes, 3U US is insanely easy until maybe the ending of High rank thanks to that boost of 50 armor points the US release got
Ah, 3U specifically, fair enough there.
>I don't remember failing a quest during my entire time playing p3rd but I do remember carting, however in world I did lose quite a bit of quests to regular Nergigantes and Teostras, they catch up to you quickly so even though you can heal and run they can still get you, if every monster in world was this fast I wouldn't have a problem with the changes they made to healing.
I don't think I've ever even carted to Nerg, and Teo only because of getting caught in a supernova once. They're pathetically slow and telegraph their moves a ton, the only monster of any respectable speed is Odogaron, who's a joke damage wise.
>Sadly that's not the case and Tobi is the first monster capable of being fast enough to catch the player in the act
But he's not though.
>First off, I hope you aren't implying that DMC and Musou games play the same way and meant only to compare them speed wise, which is still wrong but I can understand your point.
I'm aware they don't play similarly at all, I was just throwing out examples of games with combat that's got more emphasis on speed than MonHun.
>Do you consider the changes they did since the third generation to be bad compared to previous titles?
Some yes, some no.
>Because they sped up the combat since then and I've never seen anyone complaining.
We used to get people hating on third generation all the time here and holding up 2nd G/FU as the golden standard of the series, it's just been overshadowed by the line now being between people who are for and against World.
>Aren't they pretty much the Apex from 4U mechanic wise?
Apex was also god awful and definitely the worst idea 4U had.
4d963d No.15273734
>>15273637
While we're talking about hunters getting appearances, MH series quite literally has a mascot hunter named モンハン娘 and they didn't fucking use her when a MH rep got into that shitty new MvC game. I mean, it's probably a blessing considering what they did to dante in that game, but still, they literally have a mascot yet they choose some fucking modern rath-armor nobody that talks in grating human speech instead. Further, if they were going to use a girl hunter, the girl in ian armor appeared in a lot of promotional material for the series and is generally more interesting than regular rath armor or otherwise the bone or kirin sets which get shilled to hell and back.
It's probably because los armor is the shitter-core armor for players that need to take low and high rank seriously yet can't make some budget AuL mixed set right off the bat in 4* quests and instead need to grind out a dozen raths with their buddies online in order to be able to get anything accomplished.
>>15273691
>Apex was also god awful and definitely the worst idea 4U had.
I would challenge you that relics are worse than Apex since at least Apex mats are standardised and global for all weapons, but getting the right skin for relics often meant fighting apex anyway so they really are the dumbest thing.
34e474 No.15273868
>>15273734
>I would challenge you that relics are worse than Apex since at least Apex mats are standardised and global for all weapons, but getting the right skin for relics often meant fighting apex anyway so they really are the dumbest thing.
Relics/Guild Quests are why I specified it as 4U instead of 4 as a whole, though I'm still inclined to think of Apex as worse simply because they lead to gameplay just kind of shutting down every couple minutes when the Drive stone runs out, which is the problem with balancing your game around multiplayer. Also, you can pretty much wholly ignore Relics and Guild Quests, whereas Apex are required to "finish" the game per se.
84fcdd No.15273911
>>15272382
Anon, that's a video game equivalent of tasting your first burger at mcdonalds instead of a local mom n' pop joint.
4d963d No.15274150
>>15273868
>lead to gameplay just kind of shutting down every couple minutes when the Drive stone runs out
Well most end-game plays are WE spam anyway, but it's true that basically everything that needs to keep up meter, use elem or doesn't have really good hitzone accuracy (basically everything except GS, maybe lance and specific gunner sets) gets totally shat on as far as any sort of normal play goes. It would've been fine if it was just damage boosts and maybe like a third to half of the weaker hitzones get their def value bumped up to bounce range, but it's retarded that basically everything short of like 40+ hitzones becomes completely untouchable without drive. Also why the hell were status/elem split of into an extra wystone? It's not as if status and elem weps aren't already losing out on raw or sharpness, if they were going to force it into a wystone it really should've been something ridiculous like 3X output on monster in apex/frenzy state insteda of the pitiful 1.2 or whatever, since you're sacrificing a wystone in addition to the raw damage and if you fail to hit a status threshold before the stone runs out the monster is basically guaranteed to recover back down to zero by the time you get another chance to use it, whereas the offense and defense wystones are just flat boosts that are always good.
157577 No.15274249
I never understood the hate for world
someone explain it to me
1e4759 No.15274255
I'm torn on world. I have a feeling it will be empty compared to the mainline games. Also the fact that there is this gay as shit story hamfisted in, someone please tell capcom thats not why people liked the game, they liked it for the hunting.
73713a No.15274293
>>15272382
As you can plainly see, if you mention MHW at all in any way that isn't negative you get flamed at by salty huntards. I won't be getting the PC port since I already have MHW and the PC port has Denuvo.
4d963d No.15274394
>>15274255
>>15274293
>>15274249
Now I'm not gonna say >(1), but
>(1)
157577 No.15274403
>>15274394
i'm not samefagging, anon
I asked a legitimate question, and I'm awaiting a response
73713a No.15274415
>>15274394
I'm 22c98d my ip is dynamic.
898d1a No.15274426
>>15273734
Got a wiki for her?
526063 No.15274433
>MH in MvC
>MH in FFXIV
>MH Rathalos in fucking SMASH BROS
>MHW being the highest selling game in capcom history thus making capcom have its most profitable sales quarter since its conception
MH is really hitting it big nowadays isnt it?
The salty contratian fags can suck a fat one, thats pretty much all they really can do by now.
73713a No.15274445
>>15274433
I don't hate the older games and I hope this entices capcom to release some of the never-translated games to the west; and there are a lot of them.
898d1a No.15274468
Monster Hunter stories or whatever any good?
73713a No.15274472
>>15274468
Its a standard JRPG in the MH world. Do it if the idea of riding monsters into battle as your allies makes you irresistibly hard, pass otherwise.
526063 No.15274493
>>15274468
It has a piece of shit rock paper scissors combat system which is extremely unfun and braindead, then the story is nothing but generic Sunday morning shounen-shit for little kids.
The game felt so empty and bland to explore and play around in too.
Dont bother with the game if you still value all the time you have on this earth, you can spend all of those hours doing or playing something better.
10a8e1 No.15275169
>>15274433
>MH is really hitting it big nowadays isnt it?
MH has always been big you retarded mongoloid.
The fact that its big in the west now is not a good thing.
5136b9 No.15275197
>>15274468
It's enjoyable and while the combat seems braindead, it isn't. The main problem is that the updates that add more partner monsters never made it to the west, so you'd need to play the import to have things like Rajang, Teostra, and KushalaDaora as a partner.
299fde No.15275267
Has MH always had basic combat, Hammer in World is very boring after some use since its the same repetitive moves, its not very deep. I thought you could level up and unlock new moves like DmC or Yakazu. The other weapons don't really appeal to me because they're all the same really, all the weapons are able to take down dinosaurs, they're one size fits all. Also the world doesn't feel very open, its feels like I'm being channeled everywhere artificially. One thing I do like is capturing bugs, but not so much dinosaurs. I hate chasing them all over the map, its like versing microlash constantly. These are my dislikes so far, there is probs more though.
785e6e No.15275329
>>15275267
>I thought you could level up and unlock new moves like DmC or Yakazu.
>I thought
Clearly you din't.
299fde No.15275338
73713a No.15275793
>>15275267
World is open in the sense that in the past arenas were connected by loading screens, just go watch some Monster Hunter Portable 3rd gameplay and you'll see what I mean. It certainly isn't "Open world" as far as a single continuous world goes, not that they couldn't have done it that way. Astera has ground paths to multiple zones and there are passages in the background that allude to there being more (ground passages to different areas.) Just goes to show that even on the main promised feature of Monster Hunter V Capcom cuts back.
594676 No.15275868
>World is out
Time for delicious autistic salt.
55d77d No.15275877
>>15275793
The only benefit of World's level design is the fact that there are no loading screens between zones. Instead, you have long boring hallways with nothing in them, and shittier maps in general. It doesn't even have a snow zone, for God's sakes.
34e474 No.15275879
>>15274249
It's a game that feels more like a generic Western action game than Monster Hunter.
>>15274293
You're welcome to say positive things about World if you can back them up intelligently. People reacted negatively because, regardless of whether you love or hate it, World is the absolute worst choice for one's first Monster Hunter title simply because as both sides agree it is so vastly different from what came before. Liking/hating World has pretty much nothing to do with whether you'll like or hate Monster Hunter.
>>15274433
What >>15275169 said - attempts to get a series popular in the West leads to garbage like DmC, Lords of Shadow, and New Gundam Breaker.
>>15274468
If you like playing rock-paper-scissors and I mean that literally, not elemental rock-paper-scissors ala Pokemon
>Has MH always had basic combat, Hammer in World is very boring after some use since its the same repetitive moves, its not very deep. I thought you could level up and unlock new moves like DmC or Yakazu
Monster Hunter has always given you weapons with a moveset and encouraged you to master it to battle a variety of bosses that vastly overpower you. The complexity was in the monsters rather than the weapons.
73713a No.15275930
>>15275879
If you haven't played any game before then it doesn't matter if its different from previous titles, and all the more reason to make it your first entry. You're basically admitting that you only dislike World for being different.
>>15275877
It opens up certain chasing strategies and there are gather points in the hallways. It lets you take in the scenery. Here you are trying to make a feature of world seem like a drawback/a bad thing. The mental gymnastics of the /mhg/ manchildren and their derangement on display, /v/. Don't let them dissuade you from posting about MHW.
58bdfe No.15275932
>>15275930
>It opens up certain chasing Strategies
Such as?
5f1699 No.15275939
I can't believe I fucking spent eighty dollars for Denuvo. I can't believe I spent eighty dollars for Denuvo. I can't believe I fucking spent eighty dollars for Denuvo! What the fuck is wrong with me that I can't wait for the fucking crack?!
that said, heavy bowgun, gunlance, insect glaive, maybe bow or sword and shield. Select my mains, /v/, I did light bowgun/gunlance/IG in 4u
5f34bb No.15275945
>>15275930
>It lets you take in the scenery.
Great, I'm buying Monster Viewer World right now!
cd96da No.15275950
>>15275939
>I can't believe I fucking spent eighty dollars for Denuvo
lmao
73713a No.15275951
>>15275932
flashing them while they run and getting a few hits in. Its more useful if they try to fly away. If you hit a monster that's limping away you get a few free hits then they just run like they weren't injured at all and were just pretending.
I'm surprised you kids will suddenly act like you're completely ignorant on a topic just for the sake of argument. Then again, I probably shouldn't be.
>>15275939
Main a rope and hang yourself.
34e474 No.15275986
>>15275930
>If you haven't played any game before then it doesn't matter if its different from previous titles
If you have zero intention to play the rest of the series, yes.
>and all the more reason to make it your first entry.
How do you even begin to come to that conclusion?
>You're basically admitting that you only dislike World for being different.
And what's wrong with that? It's different in ways that I feel are overwhelmingly worse than the main series, with only a handful of minor QoL improvements to compensate.
>It opens up certain chasing strategies
If by "chasing strategies" you mean stalling them for two or three attacks worth mid-move then letting them resume moving to another area.
>and there are gather points in the hallways.
There's nothing particularly special about that though.
>It lets you take in the scenery.
Entirely meaningless fluff.
>Here you are trying to make a feature of world seem like a drawback/a bad thing.
It IS a drawback, just because they marketed it as a feature doesn't make it one.
58bdfe No.15275991
>>15275951
>Flashing them while they (maybe) chase you down an empty (or green herb) filled hallway
>This is a brand new strat, a strat worth shitting out awful levels for.
You're a fucking idiot, holy shit, even in my time with MHW, the time being chased (which was inconsistent by the way, monsters would straight up sometimes lose interest, or get fucking interrupted by a B17 bomber) would usually be spent changing arenas, if anything, I would end up flashing them the second we got to a new, more open place to fight. (as would most players) Flashing would occur either at the start of their running away (which would be the equivalent of them "almost" zoning in the last game) or as soon as they slowed the fuck down (which is the equivalent of them arriving at a new zone, in the last game)
Traps being placed in hallways MAYBE might be a new way of thinking, but the monsters don't really run in any set direction for it to be useful
b00a00 No.15276006
>>15273691
I guess we'll both disagree, I played mostly with a greatsword and felt like Nergigante was a pain once I lost my rhythm, his ground pound has an insane hitbox because of his spikes and I ended up getting caught in it a lot, until I realized I could abuse iframes if I just laid there. I do think Teo is easier, but he is faster than his FU counter part where he would mostly stand still and spam blast and sometimes dash. That being said I found him to be easy once I figured him out, although he can catch up quickly, a friend of mine played mostly ranged weapons through World and said that he's a nightmare to solo because he's always in your face.
And I do consider tobi to be a wake up call, unlike the monsters that came before him such as jagras/baroth/kulu ya ku that were all easy even if you spam attacks, tobi is fast enough to punish players who take this approach, it's the game telling you to observe the monster, just like in any other monster hunter, he also hits much harder and this is true, in LR he's tail smash would take away almost 3/4 of my health.
I'm not saying that he's a hard monster to fight, I'm saying that he punishes players who act carelessly, I assume that most players that have already played any monster hunter game didn't have a problem with him. But I also assume those players don't have any problem with LR contend.
I'm curious to what those complaints over the 3rd generation are, to me the gameplay just seemed to have evolved perfectly from the previous games, improving movesets and fixing hitboxes was a major step.
>Apex was also god awful and definitely the worst idea 4U had.
Oh I'm aware, though I never got very far in 4U because playing on a standard 3ds made my hands hurt, but atleast in 4u the design was different and they would've some different moves didn't they? In World they just get a fresh coat of paint and nothing else, I can understand time restrictions and implementing tempered monsters but arch tempered just feels down right lazy.
73713a No.15276025
>>15275991
Okay I get you're angry but you don't really prove anything but your intense salt by calling me an idiot.
>>15275986
It isn't a drawback though. Here you are saying you prefer loading screens between arenas for some flimsy reason you made up just to put up a fight against someone pointing out something MHW does better than in previous titles.
You guys just aren't as smart as you think you are.
5f34bb No.15276041
>>15276025
I'd rather a loading screen that's 2-3 seconds long over sprinting 20+ seconds after the monster. Walking from point A to B isn't fun unless there's mechanics you can use to make it faster or challenges to keep you engaged.
58bdfe No.15276049
>>15276025
At last, I truly see, with that deft sidestep, I now realize Rath fights being a massive chore, and the maps being colorless hiking and climbing sims with inconsistent AI, is all worth it in the end, to let me flash monsters, maybe, and get a few hits on them, maybe, before they completely zone anyway.
Fuck man, how will I ever recover?
73713a No.15276053
>>15276041
Okay that's fair, that's your preference and its something you're used to doing since that's how it worked in previous titles. It requires a bit of suspension of belief to work with it, and the casual crowd is notoriously short on imagination.
>>15276049
You need therapy.
5f34bb No.15276061
>>15276053
>and the casual crowd is notoriously short on imagination
Pretty much, I remember when I was playing 4U with my best buddy we started shooting the shit about how people don't want loading screens so Capcom is gonna remove them but keep the area/corridor design you see on the map. If only we had known what horror we were unleashing then.
34e474 No.15276074
>>15276006
>a friend of mine played mostly ranged weapons through World and said that he's a nightmare to solo because he's always in your face.
The main problem there is just the usual Teo problem of him nullifying bullets a lot.
>I'm not saying that he's a hard monster to fight, I'm saying that he punishes players who act carelessly, I assume that most players that have already played any monster hunter game didn't have a problem with him. But I also assume those players don't have any problem with LR contend.
I'll have to take your word on that, since I can't really erase my previous experience to try it as a brand new player. Kagachi just didn't stand out to me as vastly different from the rank and file that came before or after; even Anjanaf for all the bluster seemed just barely above -drome tier.
>>15276025
>It isn't a drawback though. Here you are saying you prefer loading screens between arenas for some flimsy reason you made up just to put up a fight against someone pointing out something MHW does better than in previous titles.
It is a drawback though - it means you've got more dead time doing nothing but running through an empty corridor instead of getting back to the fighting. It's not even like you're actually saving time on the loading screens either, since you just do all the loading before and after every quest anyway.
>>15276053
>It requires a bit of suspension of belief to work with it, and the casual crowd is notoriously short on imagination.
Which is the real root of the problem: I don't care about the "real world" logic of it, and I certainly don't give a damn about what normalfags want. I just want a fun video game.
73713a No.15276107
>>15276055
>>15276061
You must be a prophet. Currently a shitstorm is brewing about MHW and the type of Denuvo protection it has. >>15276102
>>15276074
If you're smart you can get to the next arena the monster is heading to before he actually gets there.
33c611 No.15276117
have any of you guys played toukiden? its more of a monster hunter game than MHW. toukiden 2 is really alot of fun and the professor is a qt.
34e474 No.15276124
>>15276107
>If you're smart you can get to the next arena the monster is heading to before he actually gets there.
And it's still a waste of time that could be spent fighting the monster instead.
73713a No.15276127
>>15276124
You could say that about monster fleeing mechanics in general.
028c65 No.15276132
>>15276107
>Faggot MHW Fan gets so buttblasted he has to filter someone.
Wew, MHW really DID bring in the casuals, I'm surprised I didn't see the words "sweetie" in your retorts, you were skirting pretty close
34e474 No.15276133
>>15276127
I do. It's one thing if it's changing to an arena that might actually change the fight, like how Lagiacrus in third generation might flee to a water area to take the fight aquatic where it absolutely has an advantage compared to a land battle, but otherwise I just find the monster fleeing to be a nuisance as a whole, and one that became five times worse in World due to area transitions taking that much longer.
61b2ab No.15276163
>>15276117
Can you actually use that rifle?
4a0ef9 No.15276278
Okay but how's the port? Does it run like ass or no?
adae8a No.15276297
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15276278
isnt out on PC yet, 20 mins.
4a0ef9 No.15276331
ce93c1 No.15276450
>>15276410
Great so the shills can finally fuck off again like they did after it launched on console
5f1699 No.15276459
I am ready for this new ERP platform
4bf0c0 No.15276494
>>15276459
Thats what you think, it doesn't run on 60% of cards now. see >>15276102
33c611 No.15276496
>>15276163
a rifle is a weapon choice in the game and the game has tons of each type of weapon, i wouldnt be surprised if there was a rifle later into the game that looked like that.
the starting rifle looks like pic related but within a few levels it looks like picture 2 related.
36e967 No.15276504
>tfw there's probably a mantle that gives me these 3 skills for free in MHW
4bf0c0 No.15276509
>>15276504
there's a mantle that flat out gives you auto evasion on attacks. Skill isn't even in the same county as people who play world
36e967 No.15276523
>>15276509
>there's a mantle that flat out gives you auto evasion on attacks
33c611 No.15276529
>>15276331
youre not missing much. its a multiplayer focused mess of a game with an overcrowded HUD and broken gameplay mechanics that are easily abused.
4a0a11 No.15276532
>>15276509
>>15276523
Yeah just beat Lunastra to unlock it.
153210 No.15276537
Does anyone know what the general consensus of MHW is in Japan? Trying to determine if there's any hope left for traditional MH games.
4bf0c0 No.15276541
>>15276532
you mean use the rocksteady, the other 90 massive defense mantles to completely cheese your way through the entire game without ever having to learn anything.
Or even better just get someone to carry your dumb skill free ass with the free drop in and drop out multiplayer hunts!
34e474 No.15276544
>>15276537
It sold well for a home console game, but poorly for a Monster Hunter game.
b00a00 No.15276548
>>15276532
That's the only defense possible, it does come very late game but it's still overly moronic, it's pretty much just a constant automatic Absolute Evasion.
>>15276541
that mantle comes only after you've already beaten the game. but yes you can have people carry you, but that's been in every game.
526063 No.15276549
>>15276544
You got any sauce to back that up?
4bf0c0 No.15276555
>>15276548
Having someone carry your dumb ass in the other games doesn't give you an absurdly overpowered skill. Fairly Certain killing a 140 hunt in 4U gives you the ability to have near invincibility for 30 seconds
5f1699 No.15276557
I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DID THIS TO THE MONHUN GIBBERISH LANGUAGE WHAT THE FUCK
Am I going to have to play in Japanese?! I'm not touching English.
b00a00 No.15276581
>>15276555
I'm not defending it, but his point was that you could clear the whole game with it, which is a lie.
The only possible defense these overpowered mantles can have is that they come post-game, it's still shitty, and I wish they would remove them.
There is no excuse for the temporal mantle.
36e967 No.15276582
>>15276557
mongun gibberish language at least in p3rd is a bunch of jap shit said backwards I think? but now they tried to make sense of it so it sounds terrible
just play it with jap dub honestly.
34e474 No.15276593
>>15276548
>yes you can have people carry you, but that's been in every game.
There was still Village that locked off stuff in the main games - as much as I hate Wystones, for instance, they were something that required you to play single player to get at least. World lets you cheese literally every quest in the game with multiplayer.
>>15276549
In easy-to-Internet form, no - most of the online stuff I'm finding that's anywhere near recent is worldwide numbers, with no specific notes on the home front. If I find anything, I'll report back.
>>15276557
>>15276582
Personally I responded to their overfocus on story shit by setting the voices to MonHun gibberish, turning off subtitles, and mashing O through every bit of dialogue. I don't know nor care about the "epic tale" they want to tell.
4bf0c0 No.15276599
>>15276581
It existing at all is the issue. Besides they don't even give it to you at the end of the postgame.
Not to mention all the great time locked quests that exist. Want to hunt Boring Gold Dragon? Too bad that quest was only for 2 weeks a month ago.
61b2ab No.15276654
>>15276496
Looks cool, i've been meaning to play it anyway.
cd96da No.15276898
>>15276548
>but yes you can have people carry you
you don't need to
in single player the monster stagger limit are Freedom/MH1 tier
5f1699 No.15276939
Highly recommend not starting the game in Monster Hunter language and start on lower graphics setting than you think you might be able to take.
Character creator is really fucking amazing actually, but the whole introductory segment is garbo if you fuck yourself over on language or settings because they don't let you change them 'till you're all the way through.
252854 No.15276957
how much of a Waifu Maker 3000 is MHW?
252854 No.15277039
>>15277009
haha yeah, your mom said you were into cute boys
280bcf No.15277051
>>15276939
>>15277009
Was the denuvo stuff resolved?
4bf0c0 No.15277059
>>15277051
lol no. Denuvo's still in the game, and they're ready to "repatch" it at any time
ce93c1 No.15277062
>>15277039
I hope they do it after they wait 2-3 weeks so all the retards cant refund anymore
280bcf No.15277064
>>15277059
Obviously it's till in the game but I saw a thread where it appeared to be causing people to not even have access to playing the game.
ce93c1 No.15277066
>>15277062
was meant for >>15277059
No idea why it even answered to the first post, I am pretty sure I didnt misclick…
4bf0c0 No.15277069
>>15277064
they "patched" that bug out I.E reverted to an earlier version of denuvo ready to patch back up to unplayable at any time!
fdfa10 No.15277081
is there anyway to change my appearance other than hair and shit on PC? i fucked up this nigga's eyes
280bcf No.15277096
>>15277069
Anon, don't even remind me. I'm very reluctant to get the game, even though i'd have someone to play it with.
5649c4 No.15277154
>Mixed (66%)
>Apparently Xbone and PS4 controller support is fucked
>People struggling to get 60 FPS
>That's if you don't have a black screen or crash during tutorial
Baffling how they can push the port back so far and still fuck it up so badly.
252854 No.15277167
whats the meme with mhw weapons?
the glaive looks cool so its likely piss poor..
701ca7 No.15277249
>game drops to single digit FPS if you land a charged greatsword hit
>on a i5 4690 and a 1060 6gb
>on medium settings
5136b9 No.15277257
>>15277167
>pick a weapon
>any weapon
>you will now win vs any monster
>because the game hand holds you so retardedly you can't fucking lose unless you are quite literally mentally handicapped
153210 No.15277282
>>15276544
I heard it'd sold 8 million copies BEFORE PC release. That seems high, even compared to other MH releases.
5136b9 No.15277285
>>15276459
Anyone got the correct image of monster hunter threads as they are since world came out? You know ,with a bunch of frothing retards circlejerking and thinking they are badass for playing a game that plays for them?
5136b9 No.15277292
>>15276544
>>15277282
Blame the frothing retards who buy whatever shit is marketed hard enough, especially if it enables and encourages shitter behavior and actively carries you through the game and treats it like some victory.
252854 No.15277453
what chance have i got to run this on a gtx670?
701ca7 No.15277456
ce93c1 No.15277472
>>15277154
Anyone wanna watch the steam reviews changing and make some screenshots? They were at about 1500 User reviews and 66%, then for a very short time All reviews were gone and now its at about 1000 reviews and 68%. If they really just deleted 500 reviews they might be trying to bump up the reviewscore by writing some fake reviews/waiting for more and then deleting reviews again, while deleting more bad than good reviews so the score keeps going up by only a few percent every time they do this and most people wont notice.
fb4053 No.15277500
get mhw for ps4 have fun with friend. they stop playing don't want to go ahead keep waiting they end up playing other games etc.
pc version comes out HEY me and another friend are getting mhw for pc come throw down another 60 dollars so we all can play together.
I'm like nah man i already bought it once plus denuvo.
plus we don't even know if it will run your guy's computers that well, we'll make it work we've really looked forward to playing together on pc.
money doesn't grow on trees etc even thou i saved up a lot and just sold a car that doesn't work for 1thousand and go like man now im poor again(just acting like i have no money so i don't spend money), they go but you got money now for mhw come play with us, and they wonder why they are having money problems
e658ec No.15277753
>>15276504
I mean there's one that gives max ear plugs, max wind and tremor resistance, stops tripping and all knockback, and gives a massive defence up. With the only drawback in that it removes the invincibility frames you get fro being hit. Which doesn't matter too much since there's barely any rapid multi-hit moves.
34e474 No.15278234
>>15276939
You're missing literally nothing by not understanding what they're saying though.
>>15277051
Not yet, it only just came out and one of the main guys who resolves Denuvo got arrested, so it might take a little longer than usual.
>>15277154
If anything the port was rushed as fuck considering they have no experience with PC and were doing it alongside the updates. They probably needed at least another year though sadly that'd just be to make it a competent port, and they'd need even more time to actually fix the game itself
>>15277282
That's worldwide numbers, he was asking specifically about Japan. And it is higher than most MonHuns, but again, most of those sales are foreign, because 1) it's a home console release and those always do better than handheld releases in the foreign market, and 2) they actually bothered marketing it in the foreign market this time. It's also the first time you have a simultaneous release, since foreign releases of MonHun are usually more than a year late.
a15c4f No.15278572
>>15277500
Anon, are you okay?
625d19 No.15278729
254992 No.15278747
I just spent 9 hours of my life playing MHW and i didn't even notice.
I just wanted to play again since my 3ds died, god, it's such shit but i missed hunting so much
34e474 No.15278760
>>15278747
>I just wanted to play again since my 3ds died
PPSSPP
571823 No.15279069
>you lived long enough to see drm get it's own system requirements
What a bizzare feel.
701ca7 No.15279245
So, I've played 12-ish hours of World in a row. I've gotten to the quest before the rotten vale and done all of the side quests other the "why the fuck do these even exist" investigations. I'm in 4 star LR. I feel like I'm still fighting fucking Dromes and Great -ggis, it's insane. I carted twice up until now. Got stunned into a Anjanath fire breath with -11 fire resist armor, and got bodied by the Tobi Kadachi because I tried to actually fight him instead of getting 1 mount and taking 60% of his health off after that And I failed a quest once. Sent the Paolomu or whtateverthefuck it's called to the shadow realm instead of capturing it because GS does so much damage
Other than Tobi, the monsters you fight up until now aren't even that impressive. You never see a monster and think "This thing's gonna fuck my shit up" like when you see the Tigrex in FU, or the Zinogre in p3rd. You fight a shitty lizard, a shitty bird, a shitty poison bird, a shitty electric dog, a generic shitty T-Rex, a shitty photographer bird, and a flying rat. You also fight Barroth and Rathian in there, but they're piss easy. The Barroth is super easy to just tackle through with the GS, and the Rathian falls over whenever you manage to land a big hit on her and has a super low HP pool, and both are super easy to mount and get completely fucked after getting knocked over.
Even the Zorah Magdaros fight is somehow worse than the Jhen Mohran from p3rd. Jhen had some downtime in between attacks and openings, but they were so you could stock up on ammo, sharpen, etc. Zorah has two parts in the fight that are literally three to five minutes of straight downtime where you do absolutely nothing. Firstly, right before you climb onto his back, and secondly, after you're on his back and break all of the Magma Cores, Zorah will just stand there and do nothing for a full couple of minutes, while you just twiddle your thumbs on his back. Jhen also had the gimmick where you could climb on his back to do some damage, but after you mine the four ore nodes and break both of the cracked spots, you could keep hitting his back to do some damage and speed up the fight, whereas Zorah has nothing to do after you've broken the 3 magma cores and mined the ore nodes, but gives you way too much time to do that.
I get that I'm just in Low Rank, but at this point, I would've already fought Nargacuga, Zinogre, Gigginox, Niblesnarf, Curupeco and an Uragaan in a better game, all of which are aesthetically different, fight differently, and give you different looking weapons and armor. And all I've done is smacked around some shitty lizards, shitty birds and a rat that all felt the same for some low-effort weapon model re-colors, unskippable cutscenes and armor that comes with worthless skills.
I mean, I wouldn't have played 12 hours in a row if I wasn't having some kind of fun with it, but it just feels so soulless and low-effort.
58bdfe No.15279270
>>15279245
BUT ANON, THINK OF ALL THE CASUALS
THEY GET TO FIGHT SOME JURASSIC WORLDS
34e474 No.15279334
>>15279245
>it just feels so soulless and low-effort.
That's because it is
517d3c No.15279508
How the fuck do I play with you people?I don't get this online system at all
701ca7 No.15279596
Also, I didn't point out, the port is pure dogshit, it has forced motion blur, some kind of fucked up camera acceleration, and it looks and runs worse than the PS4 version of the game.
5f1699 No.15279612
>>15279596
This is true to a degree, but I'd disagree that it looks and runs worse. It's honestly fucking beautiful and runs like silk compared to console, it's just that it's very obviously a lazy fucking port that treats the mouse like analog stick input and has the most archaic fucking multiplayer of anything in the last two decades, to show for their "haha give us 6 months to GET IT RIGHT"
701ca7 No.15279621
>>15279612
PC version actually has worse texture quality than the PS4.
f28005 No.15279624
>everyone complains about MHW so every new DLC has been harder than the previous
>first tempered devilijho who was basically an arch tempered
>then lunastra and its fucking 50% chance to kill you nova and immunity to flashbangs
>now behemoth is a 30+ min fight and everyone can die out of nowhere if not careful at all times
>soon arch tempered teo/kushala who will only be flashed once (say bye bye to flashing teo out of his Nova and get ready to run after a flying Kushy for 10+ minutes)
5f34bb No.15279626
>>15279624
>everyone complains about MHW so every new DLC has been harder than the previous
No the reason the DLCs are harder than the previous is because they have to keep the game engaging because "games as a service". It's pure powercreep, it's why Jho's weapons were better than everything else otherwise people would bitch there's no point in fighting it.
A friend of mine said AT Teostra is boring anyways, all it does is more explosions and is overall very easy.
1978f2 No.15279627
>>15279508
Its at the whim of the online lobby.
Just start a new session/room with a pass code and post it in the thread.
hope you got a mic, big boy
f28005 No.15279642
>>15279626
Arch tempered Teostra is not out yet
5f34bb No.15279645
>>15279642
Yes he is, check again.
f4cabc No.15279662
>>15279626
>Misinformation.
>A friend of mine said….
Games as a service normally mean always online and all the dlc is paid. You can download the hunt dlc for free and play that shit offline. I don't really find MHW engaging at all ended up trading it in for Tri on the Wii U. MHW is rather boring and dull but its not a game as a service.
701ca7 No.15279674
>>15279662
>game as a service
>DLC is paid
The opposite. DLC is free, but it's either minimal or introduces a shitload of ways to jew you with microtransactions. Example: NuBattlefront.
f4cabc No.15279683
>>15279674
Fair point DLC side but MHW can be played offline. "Games as a service" is a term bigger companies are starting to use so they can implement always online drm. Capcom is retarded they think SFV and MHW are "games as a service" when really they are just "shit games with tons of DLC" regardless if the DLC is free or not.
5f34bb No.15279695
>>15279683
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_as_a_service
Jewkipedia link, but Games as a Service is basically a game that keeps getting updated in order to extend it's revenue stream. By releasing updates with the focus on retaining player attention in order to sell new DLC (in this case cosmetics), MHW fits in the Games as a Service label, even if you can play it offline.
517d3c No.15279823
>thousands of hours across previous games
>still carted to tobi
what the fuck I going to get destroyed in HR…
4e4d31 No.15279849
So Crapcom decided to spend the better part of a year in order to release a port
>with unskippable cutscenes
>potato-tier multiplayer servers
>unmappable keybindings
>shitty optimization
>Denuvo
>and without raw mouse input
ISHYGDDT, what a fucking travesty.
34e474 No.15279863
>>15279849
>unskippable cutscenes
To be fair MonHun's always had those, it just wasn't really a problem until 4th gen when they started shoving them in constantly, and then multiplied in World where half the fucking game is boring unskippable cut scenes.
f4cabc No.15279882
>>15279695
Your missing the point. Games as a service started out like that yes but now its just code for DRM. It started out as an OK'ish idea that morphed into a full on shower of shit.
4cccda No.15279964
I'm interested in getting into Monhun, but on a few conditions. Many years ago I got Monhun for my PSP. I could tell why everyone liked the game so much, but the problem was I was the only one I knew who had a PSP, and the controls were too fucky for me to enjoy by myself. I was wondering if some of the newer iterations of the series are well regarded like on 3DS. There seems to be one coming out on Switch this month. Does this game look like a worthy entry in the series, or will it be too babby like MHW? Thanks.
6af4bc No.15279982
>>15276133
This will have to go to the old style of quests where you're pulled 20-60 seconds after completing a quest so the hunting ground can reset. Seamless areas can work with smaller huntimg grounds and lots of shortcuts you and the monsters can modify like tunnels and fallen tree bridges. And having paths too big to become arenas themselves. Sounds like World went full retard with level design and AI to instead focus on changing everything else for casual pandering.
34e474 No.15280010
>>15279964
>Many years ago I got Monhun for my PSP. I could tell why everyone liked the game so much, but the problem was I was the only one I knew who had a PSP, and the controls were too fucky for me to enjoy by myself.
You can emulate the PSP titles on PPSSPP and modify controls to your liking now.
>I was wondering if some of the newer iterations of the series are well regarded like on 3DS.
On the 3DS, there's 3U, 4U, and XX. 3U is pretty well liked, although the non-Japanese releases got fucked over by an unremovable defense boost that trivializes the first 2/3 of the game, and if multiplayer is a make or break for you, that's limited to local multiplayer unless you go for the Wii U port. 4U has online multiplayer and is reasonably well liked, though it has it's fair share of flaws. XX is by a sub-team instead of the main team, but still plays mostly like the main series but with stupid special moves/styles added on; if those are ignored it's not awful though not the best, and certainly more like a Monster Hunter game than World even pretends to be.
>There seems to be one coming out on Switch this month. Does this game look like a worthy entry in the series, or will it be too babby like MHW?
That's actually a port of XX, and it came out last year, what's coming out next month is just the (((localized))) version. See above.
>>15279982
>Sounds like World went full retard with level design and AI to instead focus on changing everything else for casual pandering.
Exactly.
4cccda No.15280030
>>15280010
Thanks for the elaborate answer anon.
6af4bc No.15280048
>>15280010
Yes, I'm still that guy who proposes remaking Forest and Hills into a seamless hunting area and making it WORK with the new AI system before making MonHunV for Switch, with a stylized painted art style of course. Swimming has to come back. Torches have to come back. You can climb any tree but climbing crumbling mountains is out of the question. There will be tunnels you can use to go under the hills and into a new arena, a ruin with a working dragonator and ballistas.
The goal is to make Fatalis a possible free roaming monster on this map. Yes, fighting Fatalis in Forest and Hills will be your urgent quest before G-rank. It's a pipe dream, but this is to show how modular I want to retool World's tech for MonHunV to be.
I'll take intelligent design and good artwork over "cinematic" graphical experiences any day.
5136b9 No.15280368
>>15274249
I'll fucking spell it out:
CASUALS
>Normal monster hunter:
>Monsters have no HP bar, your progress or lackthereof all depends on knowing things
<mhw:
<lol damage numbers because remembering shit is hard
>Dedication of action. You need to pick when and where to attack, when to heal, when to sharpen, all in an elegant game of timing
<lol just walk while healing. timing? what's that?
>you need to fit yourself out in the right armor, the right weapons, and make sure you got the right shit with you before you EVEN THINK about going on a hunt
<but that's too haaarrrd and punishing. just let the player have access to their 5000 mega potions and all armor and weapons at any time. Picking a weapon and armor set to best handle facing 3+ monsters in one hunt with wildly different resistances? lol that requires thinking
>the people you go into a hunt with are the people you finish a hunt with. Late to a hunt? too fucking bad.
<lol just join as the other faggots kill the monster and get all the end quest rewards. Why play the game?
>you only have certain frames during certain animations where you can dodge and roll, making timing ever so important to not get your shit slapped or to hit the soft spot
<lol just roll whenever
>need to know where the monster frequents and how to track it IE: HUNTING, so thet when it tears off in a random direction, you gotta find it. Paintballs and autotracker are good for remembering it, but both are temporary fixes as knowing where the monster goes is more important
<lol neon green bugs everywhere that say "MONSTER HERE". Remembering shit is hard
>Traveling between areas is a brief loading screen so you don't have longass hallways of fucking nothing going on that the monster isn't going to fight you on with each area a location that the monster is lord of it's domain and you are the invader
<lol just, like, hold the run button and keep going and waste 5+ minutes just jogging as the monster ignores you even as you cut off parts of it's body while fucking nothing happens.
>there is one camp where you usually start that has a couple of healing items and a bed. it is not practical to return here as the only item that will take you here you can only carry one of.
<lol just, like, use your infinite fast travel across the 5-6 camps on each map where you can restore your heath, exchange your weapons and restock your permanent items and even eat a meal, because you are surely enough of a scrub to forget to eat before going in the field if you're playing world.
>it keeps the community alive with tons of time released content that is available for free, milking a game for months to over a year
<lol why don't you just BUY the DLC that doesn't do shit? Everyone has gotta have them emotes so you can meme on those monsters like it's the dark souls of party games!
>I just want to play good games
<lol you're just a toxic white cis male who can't handle that you are playing a broken and dated game series and that the new stuff that just wurks is what all the cool kids play. Now shut up and watch the fuckface transvestite ramble on all fucking game telling you how to do everything.
That's just the start of it.
4bf0c0 No.15280516
>>15279624
>it's harder!
>when you have a literal invincibility mantle.
God is this what world has turned people into
ff8ba0 No.15280605
>>15280368
<lol damage numbers because remembering shit is hard
>optional, can be turned off if you don't like it; has no real bearing on knowing the monster's status anyway
<lol just walk while healing. timing? what's that?
>just don't run around while drinking if you want the same experience as before; everything else still needs timing anyway
<Picking a weapon and armor set to best handle facing 3+ monsters in one hunt with wildly different resistances? lol that requires thinking
>implying anyone ever does that instead of just steamrolling them with their highest-damage weapon and avoiding hits in the first place so resists don't matter
<lol just join as the other faggots kill the monster and get all the end quest rewards. Why play the game?
>caring that other people wasted their money on a game they won't play properly
<lol just roll whenever
>literally just straight up not true
<lol neon green bugs everywhere that say "MONSTER HERE". Remembering shit is hard
>annoying but sometimes necessary due to the size of the maps (though I do wish there was an option to disable them)
<lol just, like, hold the run button and keep going and waste 5+ minutes just jogging as the monster ignores you even as you cut off parts of it's body while fucking nothing happens.
>because that's totally different from having to jog across the entire map to catch a fleeing monster that goes right back as soon as you catch up, and less realistic than something like Deviljho burrowing into the ground instead of just walking through the door
<lol just, like, use your infinite fast travel across the 5-6 camps on each map where you can restore your heath, exchange your weapons and restock your permanent items and even eat a meal, because you are surely enough of a scrub to forget to eat before going in the field if you're playing world.
>just don't use any of those things then
<lol why don't you just BUY the DLC that doesn't do shit? Everyone has gotta have them emotes so you can meme on those monsters like it's the dark souls of party games!
>optional paid DLC is in addition to normal free periodic content releases, changes nothing
<lol you're just a toxic white cis male who can't handle that you are playing a broken and dated game series and that the new stuff that just wurks is what all the cool kids play. Now shut up and watch the fuckface transvestite ramble on all fucking game telling you how to do everything.
>anyone I disagree with must be an SJW
If you're going to complain about World being easier, at least complain about things that actually make it fundamentally easier like bad AI and weak monsters instead of new mechanics that you have no obligation to actually use. If you want a challenge then just don't use the optional things that make it easy.
4bf0c0 No.15280615
>>15280605
Dude you're just entitled, just ignore the monsters having awful AI, absurdly low stagger resist. After all you can somehow ignore everything else you dunce
33f468 No.15280629
>>15280605
>just don't run around while drinking if you want the same experience as before
>just ignore the flaws that'll make them go away
the absolute state of World faggots
4a0ef9 No.15280633
>be good goy
>was gonna get world's PC port
>waited to now if the port was okay or not
>day two of release
>check steam store
>almost 4000 reviews in
>mixed
Wew. Never mind.
6b4ef9 No.15280656
>>15280605
>lol it's optional
NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN YOU JEW NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU PIECE OF MEAT
58bee1 No.15280735
I'd like to give Monster Hunter a go, and now that it's clear the MHW port is hot garbage, I seek the wisdom of you Anons in determining what game I should play first. Which of the monster hunter games that can be emulated is best for a newcomer who likes challenging gameplay?
6b4ef9 No.15280741
>>15280735
Play the original and get used to the controls then chuck that out the window and play P3rd or for a unique aesthetic also play MHFU and I guess 4 is okay
015800 No.15280766
I'm sure the port would have been tolerable had denuvo not been included ontop of steam.
ff8ba0 No.15280782
>>15280615
It's not about ignoring them, it's about just not using them. None of the casual training wheels replace existing mechanics so as long as you don't use them it's essentially the same as a traditional MH game. The AI and stagger resist problems aren't things you can just not use because they're issues with a fundamental aspect of the game, which is why they're legitimate things to complain about.
>>15280629
>>15280656
That's just it though: they're only flaws if you actually use them, which you don't have to. How does the existence of a mechanic that you can simply choose to not utilize affect your experience in any way?
4bf0c0 No.15280787
>>15280782
Dude just ignore the stagger you fucking retard. God entitled gamer 94 strikes again
ce93c1 No.15280847
>>15280782
>eating shit is great, just ignore the look, taste and smell of it and there should be no problems.
33f468 No.15280866
>>15280782
>How does the existence of a mechanic that you can simply choose to not utilize affect your experience in any way
because the core gameplay is designed with casuals in mind you fucking mongoloid
Theres a reason why all the TAs for MHW are 3 minutes or less.
5f1699 No.15280901
oh no it's fun but not good
fb4053 No.15281006
>>15278572
I don't know if i am
03590d No.15281136
Is MHW cracked yet? I was going to buy it but there is no fucking way I am getting Denuvo on my computer
30286e No.15281179
>>15281136
No. Wait until they release it on gog or something
4a0ef9 No.15281186
>>15281179
It's gonna get a crack before that ever happens.
b7d1d7 No.15281188
>>15281136
The only person who could crack it is rotting in Bulgarian jail right now.
>>15281179
(lol)
30286e No.15281211
>>15281186
I hope you're right
>>15281188
What's funny? They'll release MHW on gog eventually just for the extra profits
4a0ef9 No.15281216
>>15281211
>They'll release MHW on gog eventually just for the extra profits
No, no they will not.
701ca7 No.15281226
>>15281211
>capcom
>gog
That's never going to happen.
30286e No.15281227
>>15281216
What makes you so sure? The game will be cracked at some point, so they'll have no reason not to release it on gog as well
1a1ea3 No.15281228
>>15281098
As somebody who's played them all from PSP through to today except the WiiU/Switch versions, even I think you're talking out your fucking ass
6.5 for that game is reasonable given how poorly and stiff it controls, not to mention the hitboxes on said monsters are far far far bigger than the actual models
4a0ef9 No.15281236
>>15281227
Because they doubled down hard enough to use denuvo, they are never gonna put it on gog. Also japs are hardly know steam exists, I doubt gog is remotely on their radar. also >>15281226
0e50d5 No.15281251
>>15281211
Anon I don't think Capcom has a single game released on GoG. Even out of all their shit without Denuvo let alone the stuff they paid thousands to "protect".
0e50d5 No.15281310
>Capcom recently gave an interview saying game sales don't matter what is most important is game quality
>Decides to put Denuvo DRM into all their PC releases
>A DRM that by all indications can severely diminish the way the game runs unless you have a relatively new CPU
>The only benefit it provides is possibly preventing piracy of the game for up to a month normally
>Literally sacrificing quality of their games only for extra sales
4a0ef9 No.15281370
>>15281310
Maybe they'll remove it, r-right?
f28005 No.15281434
>>15280516
>invincibility mantle
>he doesn't know you can still get carted with it on
>he doesn't know about the environment damage creep teo and Val Hazaak cause
>he doesn't know about trip damage being unavoidable
>he didn't even play the game and he's still posting
0e50d5 No.15281452
>>15281370
I highly doubt it but it isn't completely unprecedented. Rime and nuDoom both did and I think Evil Within 2 did as well since the game was cracked before it was released. Apparently China is really mad about Denuvo as well because of the FMA3 bullshit. Apparently a lot of China has older CPUs and Capcom was boasting about all the chinese sales they got. So maybe it will get removed but yeah this is Capcom so its like a 2% chance.
df18cb No.15281469
>>15281226
Dargon's Dogma made it's way to gog.
5f1699 No.15281496
0e50d5 No.15281501
>>15280516
The invincibility mantle is pretty much equivalent to knocking a monster out of Apex in MH4U. It makes it so you can finally fight it without being completely defensive minded. However you are not invincible around Val Hazack, Teostra, and Lunastra. MHW was incredibly easy at launch with only a few exceptions like tempered Kirin. However everything they have added has been pretty challenging. Also that limit on flash bombs made the tempered Kushala Daora and tempered Azure Rathalos significantly harder as well. If they ever put out a G-rank the game might be really fucking good if they keep with the trends.
f28005 No.15281515
So anyway did anyone gave killing the arch tempered kushala roaming into the arch tempered teo quest a try?
f28005 No.15281546
5f1699 No.15281706
>>15281546
Cannot connect, session does not exist.
f28005 No.15281813
5f1699 No.15281838
>>15281813
I can't I just got to Magdoros
f28005 No.15281852
>>15281838
Are you on fucking PC anon?
0e50d5 No.15281861
>>15281838
Did you fucking buy the PC version?
5f1699 No.15281868
>>15281852
>>15281861
Yes. Backtrace my eye-pee and put me out of my misery.
f28005 No.15281911
>>15281868
Well I'm sorry to let you down since I wanted to play and it directly affects me.
What I'm not sorry about is you buying the game and thinking 8/v would do the same.
b00a00 No.15281928
>>15281868
I'd play with you anon.
Just kidding the servers are shit, jesus christ capcom
0e50d5 No.15281936
>>15281928
I wonder if the servers are fucked because they share the console servers and Tempered Teo just launched. Or Capcom just put nothing into the PC servers.
5f1699 No.15281953
>>15281911
At least I don't own a console.
>>15281928
Holy fuck, right? The disconnects are insane so far from what I've experienced.
0e50d5 No.15281993
>>15281953
The console servers always go to shit the weekend a new monster launches.
b00a00 No.15282008
>>15281936
From what I've heard they are directly tied to steam services and I know that sounds obvious but for example whenever I get disconnected steam logs me out and I have to either wait or reconnect again.
So it's either capcom or steam. I bet on capcom's incompetence.
>>15281953
I changed my region to France on steam, seems to have helped, I still get disconnected but at least I can connect to an online session and sometimes get to complete a quest.
0e50d5 No.15282048
>>15282008
Yeah my friend was playing last night and steam kept logging him out for 2nd. He said he never d/ced though.
34e474 No.15282270
>>15281228
>6.5 for that game is reasonable given how poorly and stiff it controls
So, you've never played a game with actually poor and stiff controls?
>>15281310
>Capcom recently gave an interview saying game sales don't matter what is most important is game quality
If they honestly believe that, we'll get Monster Hunter 5 instead of World 2.
>>15281868
>Buying a game without a physical release on the piracy machine
34e474 No.15282373
>>15282278
You'd think people would read the review posted in the OP constantly.
0b7de8 No.15282935
Aside from MHW, what's the best looking MonHun graphics-wise?
55bd94 No.15283056
Any news on the scurvy version of the game?
de3bd5 No.15283110
>>15276939
>character creator is amazing
It's literally incredibly basic. theres barely any variance at all whatsoever, except for predefined positions.
5f1699 No.15283117
>>15283110
Nigger, I literally made a trap out of the male base character. You can change brow shape and type. They got character creation right.
c36276 No.15283145
>>15283056
confirmed uncrackable, but there is one way that is known to work. involves delidding your CPU and bridging two SMD caps.
de3bd5 No.15283151
>>15283117
And yet you can't increase eye size, or eyelid height, or neck height, or jaw outline, or a myriad of other shit. It's all bundled into "face outline", brow, etc. It's basic as fuck. Even fucking attack on titan 2 had more customization options than it.
de3bd5 No.15283154
>>15283151
>>15283117
Compare mhw's character creator to dragons dogma, which lets you create significantly more and is also limited.
34e474 No.15283187
>>15283145
>confirmed uncrackable
Found the Steam employee
5f1699 No.15283190
>>15283154
Why would you need to make anything but a trap, though?
879fb1 No.15283218
Do we have a steam /mhg/ group?
How else am I supposed to find people to play with?
34e474 No.15283233
>>15283218
>Do we have a steam /mhg/ group?
No
7fb169 No.15283520
701ca7 No.15283577
>>15283151
The fact that you can't modify the character's chin pissed me off to no end, because all of the square faces are extreme nochins.
c36b73 No.15283695
>>15283218
I started the squad on ps4 (launch day) with the help of other anons. I don't really feel like paying for or playing the game a second time, and I dont think the rest of us feel any different. I think I'll wait for the ultimate version on pc, then make the squad.
I'm sure there are plenty of people here playing for the first time now though, so you could start the squad without us.
The name was Eighth Fleet. Good luck hunter
ce0fb9 No.15283700
>All these autists hipsters in the thread whining about QOL improvements to monster hunter world
>Pulling out Tutorial videos from the Beta to claim the game is too easy.
>Pretending it's a niche series that's becoming more casual.
>When it's literally the Call of Duty of Japan and prints Yen every year.
The absolute state of /mhg/
62bcb5 No.15283841
>>15281936
apparently theres 250,000 concurrent players, so sorta like an MMO launch, too many people.
11d6f6 No.15284269
Is there a way to turn off the bloom in MHW? It's murdering my performance and my eyes.
34e474 No.15284814
>>15283700
>All these autists hipsters in the thread whining about QOL improvements to monster hunter world
But I haven't heard anyone complaining about having all the items in one stack instead of multiple stacks of 99 in the bin, or being able to see the "full" weapon tree all at once.
>Pretending it's a niche series that's becoming more casual.
>When it's literally the Call of Duty of Japan and prints Yen every year.
It isn't milked nearly as hard as CoD, though I agree it's hardly niche. That said, it absolutely has been getting more casual, and World is especially bad about it.
5f34bb No.15285027
>>15283700
>QOL improvements
Give examples because most chucklefucks think everything's a QoL improvement even when it straight up changes the way you fucking play.
62bcb5 No.15285193
>>15285027
Auto-crafting ( materials turn into stuff straight away, e.g, herbs into pots, ammo etc.)
Whetstone is infinite uses.
34e474 No.15285338
>>15285193
Those are good examples of things no one complains about.
4bf0c0 No.15285415
>>15281501
Not at all, it's more the equivalent of taking 90% of a monster's attacks away because the game is pathetic.
>>15281434
whoa 3 whole monsters! Move over any other game, we have 3 whole monsters that can psuedo damage you if you're pants on head retarded! Truly this is the True Monster Hunter Experience that the world NEEDED. We should all buy the emotes to support this fantastic game that makes me feel like I'm pro!
34e474 No.15285451
>>15285431
They can't, they need to stay long enough to earn their World-shilling paychecks.
5136b9 No.15285462
>>15280605
>you can just turn it off
RETARD
5136b9 No.15285469
>>15281310
<Capcom recently gave an interview saying game sales don't matter what is most important is game quality
No, they said:
WE'D RATHER HAVE A GAME THAT THE (((MEDIA))) RATES 9/10 INSTEAD OF A GAME WITH SHITLOADS OF SALES NUMBERS
https://archive.is/61GW9
4bf0c0 No.15285473
>>15285469
funnily enough with enough advertising you can easily have both! regardless of the quality of the game see MHW
5136b9 No.15285474
>>15283154
4U had good enough character creator.
5136b9 No.15285481
>>15285193
>Auto crafting
<having to stop and craft shit is harrrrdddd, just do it for me
>Whetstone is infinite use
<get greedy and spam all 20 whetstones in a single hunt for forget to bring them and you get fucked because YOU ARE A GOD DAMN RETARD
HERE COMES THE FUCKING AIRPLANE!
5136b9 No.15285484
>>15285473
I'M PRETTY FUCKING AWARE
6af9ca No.15285649
>>15281501
>The invincibility mantle is pretty much equivalent to knocking a monster out of Apex in MH4U
No its fucking not. You need to actually hit an apex monster to knock it out off its apex form which means you need to be familiar with its movesets and work around moves that can one shot you.
5f34bb No.15285686
>>15285193
I'd argue whetstones taking one less inventory space makes inventory management easier (as in you get to bring more shit) but World's inventory system already took care of any "problems" regarding limited amount of items you can carry.
7fb169 No.15285790
>got hitkilled by the t-rex 3 times
Am I retarded?
5f1699 No.15285853
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>>15285790
No, I'll help you
room ID?
7fb169 No.15285923
>>15285853
Just got him. Are you on PC? I need to kill some flying wyvern 4 times.
62bcb5 No.15286125
>>15285923
that means flying boss monsters and doesn't include pukei
ffc079 No.15286540
Whats a good HR armor set for Great Sword? I just got my shit pushed in by Nergi and my LR Odoganon isn't no longer cutting it.
58bee1 No.15286654
Played 3rd portable on PPSSPP as some Anon suggested. Getting used to the controls took some effort, especially since I initially thought it was intentional that you couldn't turn the camera with the right D-pad, but about 20 hours into it I now understand why you fags like these games. Starting to feel comfortable with the Lance, having played nothing else this entire time. Pretty great gameplay loop and deep combat.
34e474 No.15287028
>>15285790
Tigrex? Nah, he's a beast who will wreck your shit no questions asked.
>>15286654
>about 20 hours into it I now understand why you fags like these games.
That tends to be how it goes with this series - at first it's just odd and awkward and you're fighting small things at best, and then suddenly everything just kind of clicks and you fall in love.
6831d4 No.15287203
Swear to fucking god this nigger Behemoth really shows how garbage people are. Get to the end and everyone fucking dies to his last meteor.
36e967 No.15287873
>P3rd: fight like my life depends on it against a rathian with HBG for 30 minutes until it finallly dies
>(((World))): join the rathian optional quest with 3 other people and we all gangrape it until it dies in 10 minutes
I'm wanna pick up P3rd again but I can't find a good control scheme with mouse and keyboard. I had one for ranged weapons but PPSSPP deleted my custom config and I can't remember what that was so I'm fucked.
1a1ea3 No.15288196
>>15282270
If the best argument you can come up with is bullshit, why even bother arguing?
"T-t-t-the game doesn't have stiff controls, you've just never played any!"
Go play Unite, then go play P3rd or 4u or Gen and tell me that they play "The same" because they drastically don't
59020f No.15288269
>>15286540
for GS id suggest going pure elementless raw since only raw is effected by attack multipliers.
get the teo gamma 3pc and use the taroth chest for stun immunity with 2 lvls of crit boost(another thing that only works on raw dmg).
if you have it the rocket greatsword is still the best for this type of build.
>>15287203
the devs heard people were calling world easy, so they've sped up the release of ATs and extreme behemoth.
>>15288196
>stiff controls
literally the reason why i've been reluctant to play this series.
i waited a YEAR to get the original monster hunter, dropped it after yian kutku because how slow, still, and unresponsive the controls were, and still are in world just not as bad.
seriously, nioh 2 better not be infected by the jewish virus like DoA6 because that was a well oiled combat system.
34e474 No.15288323
>>15288196
>If the best argument you can come up with is bullshit, why even bother arguing?
That's exactly what I wonder every time people claim MonHun has stiff controls.
>Go play Unite, then go play P3rd or 4u or Gen and tell me that they play "The same" because they drastically don't
I'd say the pace of the game is faster in the later gens, especially 4 onwards, but there's nothing stiff or unresponsive about Gen 1 or 2 controls.
6af9ca No.15288392
>>15288269
>since only raw is effected by attack multipliers
Are you world shitters really this fucking dumb?
59020f No.15288481
>>15288392
allow me to clarify since attack is an actual stat in monhun.
by "attack multiplier" i mean the damage multiplication or division determined by the launched attack, which only applies to raw attack where as elemental deals it full damage on every hit favoring weak but fast wepaons like sns and doal blades.
then you get the sharpness multipliers which really only scale well past green for raw attack.
then the damage resistance multipliers of the monster and parts.
elemental would be more worth if it wasn't so fucking hamstring, same with status.
as is blunt/slash/fixed are best for effect, everything else is gimped severely.
6af9ca No.15288532
>>15288481
GS charges literally get an elemental multiplier
starts with a flat 2 on a normal level 3 charge and becomes 3 for a strong charge. I don't know what its for true charge slash but considering its World its probably something retarded.
4d963d No.15288875
>>15288532
No need for borderline false flagging about hating world shitters. He's correct since there isn't a single motion value that actually affects elemental damage output, the GS charge is a special effect irrelevant to the charge mv similar to CB, SA and bow effects (lance might've had a <1 modifier on charge attacks at some point too?). Additionally, in the time it takes to do the single lvl3 charge you could've landed several hits by standard attacking, or close to a dozen hits with a high attack rate weapon. The multiplier didn't exist initially(?) and was added in later to make elemental GS effects just regular bad instead of an absolute downgrade over flat raw. You can make the argument that status type GS may have a purpose though, due to potentially outputting enough to trigger a low threshold in one hit, but even then the random trigger rate means that i's still a gimmick at absolute best.
7fb169 No.15289086
>>15288481
>>15288532
So you guys are saying raw damage is always better for hammers and HH?
6af9ca No.15289176
>>15288875
>in the time it takes to do the single lvl3 charge you could've landed several hits by standard attacking
you are a mongoloid if you are using standard attacks on a GS.
>The multiplier didn't exist initially(?) and was added in later to make elemental GS effects just regular bad instead of an absolute downgrade over flat raw
>You can make the argument that status type GS may have a purpose though
are you legitimately retarded? status gets no multiplier
>>15289086
No, not always.
9cf4b4 No.15289429
Is there any way to transfer my save data from MH XX to MH G:U on the switch?
Any sort of fuckery possible to make this happen?
1a1ea3 No.15289596
>>15288323
Unite (AKA Portable MH2+) was one of the last gen of MH's where hunters were slow/stiff/weapon movement was slow and sluggish, yet monsters started to become faster
Coupled with the fact most weapons didn't have the same combo's etc that newer versions had it made the game far stiffer/clunky than it had to be, imagine playing Castlevania 1 for the NES but an even longer pause between pushing a button and a reaction happening due to the animation wind up or set up
Coupled with the monsters having unreasonably huge hitboxes it made playing the game cumbersome as hell, and the fact if you look up reviews of the game it's not just a few outlets that didn't like the game, a lot of outlets thought it was average at best
Monster Hunter Tri was the last in the series that had the original clunky combat before P3rd and some monsters made this brutally apparent, Barroth for example was just too fast for the old combat system thus became everyones most hated monster
P3rd however increased how fast you ran, and how fast you put away weapons with a few combat improvements here and there with weapon swing time values etc and even though the monsters have the same speed values at Tri they're far more manageable because you're not chasing them all over the place
Things were fine from 3U to 4U using this system until the devs went crazy with monster speed again and some weapons became far less useful because of it, the most blatant example is Yian Garuga who becomes all but manageable at best because he's simply far too fast for 2nd evolution of hunter movement zipping around the world charging constantly, a shitload of attacks with no windup etc etc and he became the most hated monster of that game and for good reason
MHWorld has made hunters faster again, other than moving while healing but in making many actions faster such climbing, putting away weapons, distance traveled rolling/diving and most importantly, weapon swings are faster
They also sped up the speed of the monsters, but because of the many other improvements such as the amount of time required for swings etc at least you can manage, fights become more reactionary instead of methodical
End result is the type of monster hunter you want, I like monster hunter where my ability to react in time matters to my success along with the monsters not having set combat routines, you prefer the old way where fighting monsters was like a game of chess where its "Ok, he'll charge past, 1/3rd through tail swing 2 charge great sword, he'll turn to me in 10 frames and soon as his head comes down to start the charge release my great sword"
If I had to compare this in another way, I'd compare the two games as playing an FPS game and playing Ikaruga, while both you can become extremely skilled in FPS games at least offer challenge at any time because of how random combat is, Ikaruga once you've learned the game you can get no better at it
Anyways that's my view on the combat evolution to the now 3rd movement revamp of MH World, I know some people like the old chess like combat but I don't harbor any ill towards them other than key games where monsters were just too fast to be fought in a fun matter
Also it's not just me, the developers themselves were aware that monsters were too fast in MHTri and MHGen, which is why they improve the hunters combat every game afterwards
73713a No.15289642
>>15289596
If you wanted a fast hunter you picked a fast weapon. You don't go GS and complain about slow attacks; that's how its meant to be. Sometimes they do go overboard with monster speed to the point where its just plain not viable to go near a monster and the rage mode is just stay away mode.
And just judging by >>15284966 Barroth in world just moves way slower. In MH I only found three monsters even remotely challenging and asking me to do anything more than move around and hit it until it dies. Teosatra, because its weak spots are hard to get to, Kushala Daora because of its low-wind up attacks and huge area denial whirlwinds thats lasts too long with micro-stuns attachedI actually got trapped in a corner by one of those whirlwinds, was complete bullshit And Nergigante, because it has an attack that will basically hit the whole arena for huge damage, that you have to typically dive-dodge to survive. Of those three I only hate Kushala Daora, for the rest the challenge seems fair.
73713a No.15289710
Oh and of the monsters in World my favorite is Odogaron. Its not all that difficult once you learn the tricks but it just moves at such a fast pace and you have to mentally keep track of it quickly and make decisions fast to match it feels good to fight even if it isn't exactly hard.
27657e No.15289897
>>15289857
Blos in world is fucking easy mode but that video isn't a fair comparison it's most likely a G rank and the world blos isn't even tempered.
4c4d60 No.15289924
27657e No.15289933
>>15289924
I said most likely but how am I supposed to know it's P3rd all the hud is cut off and it's taken from an area that was in every 3rd gen game?
1a1ea3 No.15289999
>>15289897
I'm looking at the video between the two now, p3rd Diablos has faster attacks but mega huge pauses between them, MHWorld the pauses are very small in comparison
Also P3rd diablos vs MHWorld Diablos, MHWorld's version is almost 30-40% bigger, so even if attacks are slower they're covering far more area
Also I checked and high rank enraged Diablos is almost just as fast, yet is a far bigger monster
>>15289857
Again, you want monsters to be like a game of chess, I want monsters to be purely reactionary
6af9ca No.15290235
>>15289924
Thats not p3rd. Its either Tri or 3U.
>>15289429
Not between XX and GU, only Gen and GU.
>>15289596
>was one of the last gen of MH's where hunters were slow/stiff/weapon movement was slow and sluggish, yet monsters started to become faster
What the fuck are you talking about?
>Barroth for example was just too fast for the old combat system thus became everyones most hated monster
Barroth in Tri had the same speed in LR it had in p3rd HR.
>P3rd however increased how fast you ran, and how fast you put away weapons with a few combat improvements here and there with weapon swing time values etc
Not true at all. The most 3rd gen added was more combo moves but even then cancelling your combos into new ones was the best way.
>the most blatant example is Yian Garuga who becomes all but manageable at best because he's simply far too fast for 2nd evolution of hunter movement zipping around the world charging constantly
You do realize that both Yian Kut Ku and Garuga had literal instant charges when they were introduced right? They have been dumbed down considerably in 4U with the only buff to them being the U turn.
6af9ca No.15290269
>>15289999
>MHWorld's version is almost 30-40% bigger
Desperate
6af9ca No.15290307
>>15290269
and heres diablos hunted from my 4U file
879fb1 No.15290829
>constant 100% CPU usage
>huge lagspikes during combat
>GPU doesn't even go above 67C and has low/mid usage
What even is this piece of shit port?
701ca7 No.15290834
>>15290829
Did you download the latest Nvidia drivers?
if you did, roll them back
879fb1 No.15290840
>>15290834
>nvidia
I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with graphics at this point, unless Crapcom runs their graphics on the CPU.
701ca7 No.15290849
>>15290840
Do you have an Nvidia card and did you download the latest drivers?
879fb1 No.15290853
>>15290849
No I don't have an nvidia.
522eed No.15290878
You guys are all fucking niggers. I just spent 35 minutes hunting a diablos that could kill me with two hits. I now can understand the situation: You are all just LITERAL GODS at playing video games, that's why you think world is TOO EASY LOOLLOLOL.
It's just too easy because you are all machines, you can't have fun anymore. I bet most of you completed the older games going offline into the guild hall and soloing shit that was meant for 4 players and think that was the standard. You are all sick fucks.
e8bd85 No.15290890
>play world with friends
>none of them ever use any slinger shit, any traps
>"oh we just leave it to you anon because you know what you're doing, you're our Hunter"
>they all still use vigorwasp gadget despite some of them being in the vale now
>some of them complain it's too easy after two quests, only to ragequit and not touch the game again after failing odogaron once
>explain to them about capturing and flash pods, ask if they can bring some with them to the next quest
>no one brings any
>one of them doesn't bother attacking, exclusively tries to mount monsters as much as possible
>most of them (new to hunting games) keep complaining that it would be better if they added more MMOlike stuff into it
>they don't even bother soloing a story quest if there are cutscenes involved, they make a big deal about everyone waiting in the hub until they can either fire SOS flare or leave and rejoin
Playing hunting games with friends was a mistake
e8bd85 No.15290895
>>15290878
>diablos
>dying in two hits
>35 minutes
Upgrade your gear, upgrade your armor, use your fucking hunters tools. Stop getting hit, learn how to use your weapon.
It's no one else's fault that you're shit.
701ca7 No.15290898
>>15290890
>vigorwasp tool
I didn't even realize how you got different cat tools until I finished all of low-rank. I'm also turbo jewish with my potions, and the vigorwasp shit is basically free max potions every couple of minutes
e8bd85 No.15290938
>>15290898
Why would you settle for extra healing when you can have flash/shock, buffs or extra materials?
And with the abundance of materials, as long as you don't go out of you way to get hit there should be no reason you're ever running out of your 10 mega potions + first aid.
You'll never run out of stock, and if your supply is running low just cultivate honey and herbs in the ancient tree.
522eed No.15290975
>>15290895
See? You all deserve to not have fun.
36e967 No.15291107
>doing some SOS quests because FUCK story mode, that shit's gay
>fighting anjanath with full party
>it rages
>we now have 1 cart left
>it runs away and there's only me and some other guy in the area
>i make the mistake of using the sliding spirit attack with no spirit gauge
>it instantly turns around while i'm in my recovery animation and
>pic related
It's the second time this shit happens. Why does world have so many fucking OHKOs? I swear to god the rathian fight is easier than this fucking nigger dino.
755eb1 No.15291110
am i the only person who loved old ones monhun games and so like this new one? ive read reviews on steam and all i saw was like that game doesnt work, bad optimalisation, multi not working, denuvo, i have r9 290 and its playable (im suprised) dunno if its need good cpu i have i7 6700k and 16gb of ram so maybe denuvo is only burning my cpu so whatever, this game is casualized and it makes me angry but last time i played when mhx came out in japan so maybe thats why i can play this shit, they added woman who cook for you and talks too much, graphling hook is shit because you cant use it all the time, it would be op but fun hd graphics makes it hard to see things to gather atleast for me, so these shitty fireflies are nice, they even added things to gather on map so i dont have to print resource maps, still dont know if you only have 2 weapon and just upgrade but its seems so, dont know about multi if its working, i have no friends, playing on mouse felt like emulating joystick and made my autism angry, combat is still old monhun i love, died once when i sneezed so its not so bad
34e474 No.15291151
>>15290878
>I just spent 35 minutes hunting a diablos that could kill me with two hits.
Two very slow and telegraphed hits. It sounds like World is your first foray into the franchise, so you've probably had no reason to bother doing this, but a lot of the soul of the series is learning each monster's behavior. There are some among us who even go so far as to spend their first hunt against a new monster entirely on observing and dodging without attacking at all, just to learn the patterns.
>I bet most of you completed the older games going offline into the guild hall and soloing shit that was meant for 4 players and think that was the standard.
Nothing is meant for 4 players with the possible exception of the most awful and hated shit like Apex monsters in 4th gen. Most content is perfectly soloable, and the differences aren't even that huge. For example, comparing the Tigrex urgents of Village and Gathering Hall from FU, the Village variant has an HP multiplier of 0.6 and an attack multiplier of 1.15, whereas the GH counterpart has a 1.15 HP multiplier giving him barely shy of double the health, a 1.6 multiplier on his attack strength, and a 5% damage reduction. It's a noticeable difference, obviously, but far from insurmountable, and certainly nothing that requires 4 hunters tearing it into pieces.
>>15290890
>most of them (new to hunting games) keep complaining that it would be better if they added more MMOlike stuff into it
Kill them before Capcom hears what they have to say.
>>15290975
He's right though, you have plenty of tools at your disposal, and you can try your hand at it as many times as it takes to get it right. The entire point of the series is to git gud.
>>15291107
>Why does world have so many fucking OHKOs?
It doesn't, you're probably just undergeared, which is a common thing to happen in World because it's such a breeze most of the time you never need to stop and make proper equipment.
>>15291110
>print resource maps
What
>combat is still old monhun
I wish it was.
522eed No.15291187
>>15291151
My first was FU on psp, so no. Everyone is a newfag for you guys, but the truth is the majority is just shit at the game. That's not hard to understand.
34e474 No.15291193
>>15291187
I'm shit at MonHun as well, but when you talk about spending 35 minutes on a Low Rank hunt with a monster that's been in almost every installment of the series, it certainly sounds like you don't have much experience with the games. How far did you get in FU?
522eed No.15291202
>>15291193
Last monster I killed was kirin. It was like 3 or 4 years ago so I don't remember how the fuck did I do things, but I mainly used heavy bow-gun.
My goal after that game was rush to kirin set with my waifu as fast as possible, so I barely change sets. Also, how the fuck do you want me to memorize all monsters moveset? I barely even know their names.
34e474 No.15291221
>>15291202
Was that Low Rank? High Rank? G?
>Also, how the fuck do you want me to memorize all monsters moveset? I barely even know their names.
It'll become muscle memory after a while, not something you consciously memorize.
755eb1 No.15291272
>>15291151
im talking about picrelated, are you telling me people didnt print them and wassnt planning where to go for what resources needed right now? am i autistic, swinging sword feels the same for me, sliding down is making me smile, not having hunting arts and being able to jump whenever i want is nice, i rememver first time i touched Insect Glaive and it made me angry that i can jump not only from ledge but with weapon so i never touched it again after one time,also never touched again that aerial hunter arts or whatever it was called, the one that made rolling i thing adept? it was fun, waiting for right moment to dodge
are there any faggots who bought that game and wants to play? or multi is really that bad as they say
522eed No.15291320
>>15291221
I have no idea what the fuck that was, but he was hitkilling me with those lightning from the sky shits. Literally one hit.
6af9ca No.15291439
>>15290878
>I just spent 35 minutes hunting a diablos that could kill me with two hits
You are the prime example of MHW roping in mouth breathing retards.
34e474 No.15292235
>>15291272
I don't imagine people bothered printing them out by and large?
>>15291320
What was the lightning resist on your armor?
45758a No.15293117
>>15290878
My first introduction to the series was fighting a lagiacrus in 3U from the guild hall quest, i knew the monster had more health and was tuned for more players but i forced myself to hunt it several times because i thought those quest had better and more drop rates. They didn't.
137530 No.15294615
>>15294220
I've played FU, FRONTIER (yes, fuck my ass, but it was fun), and generations. You can say and think whatever the fuck you want, I still think world isn't as easy as you guys are saying. It's EASIER than previous games, they bombard you with healing options and ways to fuck the monster, but I still get killed fairly often by stun combos and hitkills and I'm not even high rank.
It could be harder and more challenging, but doesn't deserve this HURR SO EASY I CAN DO IT BLINDFOLDED comments. If it's so easy then go ahead and hunt every monster naked without pots, you retard. Wait, crap that, the way you sound you must be a super autist robot and could actually do it. Just go not have fun on that corner.
137530 No.15294777
>>15294690
>So you touched a psp once, saw a youtube video of frontier and never got past low rank in generations
I really find it amusing how people think Over-exaggerating points would go unnoticed and make their arguments better.
You can believe me or not, it'll not change the facts.
137530 No.15295387
>>15295298
I never said it's comparable, it's just not piss easy.
0e50d5 No.15295422
>>15295298
I've heard the argument that like the Souls games Monster Hunter actually isn't getting easier people have just learned the game so it seems like it. Now I've played only MHW since it came out and I'm gonna play MHGU when it comes out at the end of the month. Do you think this is a good test or should I go back to 3U or 4U. My theory is if MHW is actually easier it would have given me shit habits and I would be utter garbage going back to the older games.
27657e No.15295543
>>15295491
I bought the game because I played the demo and it was still fun and still monster hunter. Even if it wasn't the best the series had been. Plus it wasn't Capcom's fault Sony decided to make it mandatory to charge for online. However it is absolutely Capcom's decision to use denuvo in their PC releases.
34e474 No.15295857
>>15294615
>It's EASIER than previous games, they bombard you with healing options and ways to fuck the monster, but I still get killed fairly often by stun combos and hitkills and I'm not even high rank.
I will grant you that the handful of times I carted were almost all because I got stunned and then finished off. That said, it's not at all hard to get stun immunity into your armor set.
>It could be harder and more challenging, but doesn't deserve this HURR SO EASY I CAN DO IT BLINDFOLDED comments.
>>15294777
>I really find it amusing how people think Over-exaggerating points would go unnoticed and make their arguments better.
Wait, who's the one exaggerating here?
>>15295387
If you're new to video games as a whole, I guess? I can't say for sure, seeing as I can't "turn off" 30+ years of vidya experience to experience it as a complete newbie. I honestly found the game piss easy though, and I'm not even that good at Monster Hunter.
>>15295422
I'd say go back to 3G, since the 50 defense boost kinda neuters 3U.
>>15295491
>a shit game can't make you play poorly unless you get dependent on it
I wouldn't go that far, if you play something enough the habits just naturally click without thinking sometimes. I remember playing Rockman X so much that when I went back to the Classic series when 7 came out, I kept forgetting Classic Rock couldn't wall jump or dash from time to time. I knew it in my head, but muscle memory and all.
137530 No.15296616
>>15295857
>it's not at all hard to get stun immunity into your armor set.
Wait, you can get stun immunity? What the fuck.
34e474 No.15296797
>>15296616
Several armors give it, and the decoration for it drops very commonly, takes up one single slot, and the skill only has three tiers, so it's pretty easy to pop in.