/v/ - Video Games

Addendum, Labo sales are reported in Nintendo's official sales report, found here, in page 3.

Page doesn't archive, due to being a PDF.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180731e.pdf

Here are archives for the other sales numbers, however.

http://archive.is/h7O5T

http://archive.is/mis8F

When is it going to get good games besides a last gen monster hunter that is only better than worlds because at least its monster hunter and not just destiny with swords.

>>15232382

>1-2 Switch sold more than ARMS

>ARMS sold more than Star Allies

Lets just hope this was because of the thirst for games during the Switch's first year, because Star Allies is head and solders above both of those games.

>Star Allies sold more than Xenoblade 2

I can believe it, the auto-attack feature always turned me off of the Xenoblade franchise and a new JMMO-lite style RPG for a console in the west is going to be hard to sell over a name and face that everyone is familiar with.

>>15232420

I don't think Kirby has ever sold particularly well, aside for the first two Gameboy games.

As best as I can see, only four Kirby games have sold over 2 million: Dreamland, Dreamland 2, Pinball Land and Squeak Squad. Three of those for for the original Game Boy.

No idea who the hell bought 1-2 Switch, really, aside for parents buying this for their kids. Every mention of the game I've ever seen recommends not getting it.

>>15232417

>When is it going to get good game

When you make one and port it to the Switch

>>15232382

wheres the cardboard?

ps4 still 60+ million units ahead

splatoon 2 and smash would be the only two i can think of for a shit but it costs an arm and a leg to even get the plain console not to mention the addition no sale price games cause nintendo or lack of physical copies that never get restock for hundreds of years.

wouldn't mind it but nintendo has the greediest fucking console on the market.

>>15232410

>and avoid what cannot be emulated.

so basically everything from after 1994

>>15232382

>Surprised by anything? You shouldn't be. Normalfags are sheep.

Normalfags are too busy buying God of Soy and nuMonHun though.

>>15232440

>nintendrones are not n-normalfags you s-soynigger!

It's perfectly possible to h8 on both nintendrones and soyniggers you know

>>15232432

>wheres the cardboard?

Not on the list, it's in their earnings report, see the second post in the thread.

>ps4 still 60+ million units ahead

A console that came out 4 years earlier has sold more? Man, what's next, the 3DS has sold more than the Switch too? Hard to be surprised. Pretty sure it's selling as a faster rate than the PS4 was in general, but not by too much.

Instead, we should laugh at the fact that Nintendo in a year and a bit is 2/3 the way to outselling the Xbox One.

>wouldn't mind it but nintendo has the greediest fucking console on the market.

Consoles in general are kikey, though I won't disagree with you. Waiting for a sale or something, or at least piracy, not enough games to warrant one yet.

>>15232435

The only console that can't be emulated well is the N64, and it's serviceable still.

>>15232440

Mario and Zelda are normalfag-tier, and Splatoon is for the jap equivalents of normalfags. The game is super popular with kids there. Over half of the japanese playerbase is under 18.

>>15232449

>The only console that can't be emulated well is the N64, and it's serviceable still.

No it's not.

>>15232462

Considering the assets are mostly recycled from other Kirby projects and just upscaled, probably not much. Kirby games have never been big budget, it's just that HAL is good at detail, quality, making the most of what they have, and not being completely garbage at coding like other game devs (Gamefreak).

>>15232468

So if we had to take a stab in the dark,maybe something low like 50k?

I'll be more curious about how the nip games sold in Japan as a whole, because I keep seeing reports that it's going to be a repeat of the 3DS with anything that isnt Atlus, Capcom or Squeenix is doomed to fail on it.

>>15232410

>All that wasted money, when you can simply wait for emulation and piracy, and avoid what cannot be emulated.

>thinking emulation was ever in a perfect state

It can do its job "fine", and I can understand people choosing that option (I relied it a lot back in the day too), but dont expect the same accurate results you'd get with the actual hardware.

Also you're crazy if you think the emulation scene isnt as fucked as the console hombrew/piracy scene these days, thanks to high levels of narcissism from programmers and Patreon.

>>15232471

Considering that's the average yearly wage for one single programmer in the US, I doubt it. I know they're nips so they make less, but 50k is still quite low. It's certainly over 2 million, but I don't think less than 5 is unreasonable. Not sure how efficient they are, really, and how big the marketing was.

>>15232461

Considering the N64 has five games worth playing (and no, Banjo is not worth playing), it's tolerable. I still prefer flashcart, though.

>>15232515

That's what fucked N64 emulation - the biggest and probably best-functioning emulator was PJ64, and it's died to Patreonfags. Cemu, as well, turned into a BOTW emulator thanks to Patreon.

What games does the Switch have that aren't on Wii U? Spla2n, Odyssey, ARMS, Fire Emblem, and what else?

>>15232522

>Considering the N64 has five games worth playing

it's more about 30 or so, and it's not just the N64.

>>15232382

>Kirby sold like shit because people have bad taste (and probably because they rushed it)

Or because it's a 2D platformer that runs at 30 fucking frames a second. Even Mario Odyssey as a fully fledged 3D platformer has a higher and more stable framerate than that.

Mario continues to sell systems, Zelda is still gaming's number one fairy-tale fantasy game, and Splatoon is getting its own eSports league in Japan as part of the national baseball league for some weird fucking reason.

Nintendo is doing alright. The system sellers have attach rates of over 50% and there are nearly a dozen million sellers in a year. Somehow this will be painted as a bad thing though, because nintenyearolds.

>>15232435

>what is dolphin

>what are most handheld emulators

I don't want to get into a big argument about this, but most of the time the emulation issues are things most people wouldn't give a fuck about.

When you start getting to emulators like PCSX2 you have a point, some games like Ratchet and Clank are a nightmare to run well, but I've beaten at least 7 games on Dolphin with quite literally no issues. I'm sure the same can't be said of all games, of course.

>>15232529

>it's more about 30 or so

What are they? I know of

>Mario 64

>Doom 64

>Perfect Dark

>Bomberman 64

>Custom Robo

>Donkey Kong 64

>Smash

>Mega Man Legends

>Paper Mario

The N64 only had like 300 games, so 10% of its library being worthwhile is doubtful.

>>15232582

Off the top of my head

>Sin & Punishment

>Mischief Makers

>Bangai-O

>Banjo-Kazooie

>Banjo-Tooie

>Pokemon Snap

>Zelda: Majora's Mask

>Zelda: Ocarina of Time

>Conker's Bad Fur Day

>Body Harvest

>Bomberman 64 2

>Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

>Wonder Project J2

>Mario Party 1-3

>Wave Racer 64

>1080 Snowboarding

>Pokemon Stadium 1-2

>Turok 1-3

>Goldeneye 64

>Harvest Moon 64

>Jet Force Gemini

>Pilotwings 64

>Excitebike 64

>Hybrid Heaven

>Blast Corps

You're right that it had a pretty small library, but it still had some pretty good games. Especially if you had friends to play the multiplayer with. To this day I would say it's a great multiplayer party console.

>>15232582

>>what is dolphin

mediocre apart from a few mainstream releases, which is why those are the only games you see being played with it.

>>15232582

10% is about average funnily enough.

>no Ganbare Goemon

>no Bangai-O

>no sin & punishment

>no blast corps

>no body harvest

>no beetle adventure racing

>no chameleon twist

>no Iggy's Wrecking Balls

>no Space Station Silicon Valley

>no goldeneye

>no mischief makers

>no rakuga kids

>no turok 3

>no wonder project J2

It's OK if you don't know these but do not pretend to be an authority on this stuff at all. There's a reason why I shit on emuniggers, it's because they don't know shit about the platforms they emulate all while acting superior for having access to them. They play the most mainstream or well publicized games and have no intrigue in seeing what more there is, and assume the little they've experienced is the limit.

>>15232432

>ps4 still 60+ million units ahead

<Supporting any console manufacture

They're all shit, dumbass!

Nintendo is compromised by Treehouse in the West, and all the veterans at the company are too senile to actual making anything progressive; Sony has gone all in about pushing the gay agenda; and Microsoft is too busy hiring pajeets, pushing their Netflix service, and letting their system flounder so that they can use it as a tax shelter.

>>15232622

Western branches of Nintendo and Playstation have been acting retarded for +20 years. Same shit different flavor, underage

>>15232382

Yeah, I'm surprised there is still no Trauma Center game or a better boxing game. I thought the motion controls were top shit now, so where the hell is the one game I'd buy this system for? Not playing Arms, looks boring.

Looking at the comments at this thread, how old do you think majority of them are?

>>15232611

>Bangai-O

Better on Dreamcast

>Hybrid Heaven

Curiosity at best, it's not an objectively good game.

>>15232435

>>15232621

Fuck off hardware kike. The N64 was also a mediocre system at best and lost Nintendo a fuck ton. Reminder if it weren't for Pokemon's success and Ameributts the system would've most likelt put Nintendo in the same rut where Sega is.

>>15232762

you never played the games, kill ya self kid

>>15232759

Most likely 30 year old Nintensoys justifying their newest "3 Worthwhile Games at Best" Nintendo Machine.

>>15232753

Wasn't switch emulation already pretty close to being usable?

Also you're clearly the cool kid with how you wasted quite a bit of money, one or two good games is not worth 400 dollars consolenigger

>>15232765

Nope, I have. Sorry your mom got you a No Games 64 instead of a PS1 or that you weren't savy enough to get a region modded Saturn.

>>15232771

I had all 3, I'm just not an emunigger that has only played mario 64 and zelda like yourself. Play more games, your opinion is invalid.

>>15232769

>Wasn't switch emulation already pretty close to being usable?

I have yet to fucking see the PS3 emulation to become usable yet, as in working for a full walkthrough, not just some kind of 10-15 minutes tech demo for one particular game and still get shitty results on everything else. Not gonna happen any time soon with Patreon around however. The devs will likely slow down the progress as much as possible in order to get the most of Patreon bucks.

>>15232769

Last I heard, it booted some retail games, mainly the indieshit ports like Binding of Isaac, but ran them at crap framerates and was very unstable. It's progress nevertheless, though it's kind of disgusting how they announced it before having anything to show. Not sure if they have a Patreon yet, but the moment the thing boots Odyssey, they will.

Piracy on the other hand, that's making large headway. Homebrew is already fully viable, they just haven't quite figured out how to boot retail games without getting shit banned, since every account has individual IDs for all their games, so playing a simple dump would be detected. Don't quote me on that though, I might have gotten something wrong.

>>15232779

Weren't people playing though Persona 5 in full on emulators? Wasn't that why Sega/Atlus was so butthurt about the PS3 emulator?

>>15232773

I find that Emulation lets me find obscure games easier than owning the hardware. At the very least, a flashcart would be second place. But I can just get a full rompack and go through it at my own pace. That's how I found a ton of small fun games on the GBC and GBA.

>>15232787

>Weren't people playing though Persona 5 in full on emulators?

sorta, every 3 minutes they were spending 3 minutes waiting for it to compile the shader cache. It's playable only in the sense that you can technically beat it, but what would normally be a 40 hour play through would end up being a 120 hour one. If you find that tolerable, more power to you, but anyone can see it's an objectively inferior experience.

>>15232793

emulation is useful for testing, playing is better on the real hardware.

>>15232804

How is RPCS3 coming along?

>>15232827

plays a handful of games but they all have 3 minute long loading times every other minute so you can compile shader cache.

>>15232417

I would say when Daemon x Machina comes out, but that's running on Unreal.

Who the fuck buys a 3DS in 2018?

>>15232410

We're still waiting for proper PS360 emulation for like 12 years by now and PS2 emulation is still garbage too. I could understand waiting for good CFW and piracy on original hardware, but "waiting for emulation" is just an excuse poorfags use.

>>15232420

>>15232425

Here's some sales stats from the previous quarter

>1-2 Switch –2.29m

>ARMS – 1.85m

>Both titles have the same 0.16m sales increase

Strange coincidence? I know there's been that rivarly between the two new series but are new Switch owners running out and buying 1-2 Switch and ARMS together now?

>>15232462

Considering the Kirby series has been declared as "profitable" for a decade despite the games usually selling just over 1 million units. The production costs are probably around 5 million USD for each game.

>>15232382

>Kirby sold like shit because people have bad taste (and probably because they rushed it)

I really liked both 3DS Kirbys but Switch Kirby looked snorefest as fuck so I didn't buy it, especially at full price.

>>15232864

Someone who didn't buy one in 2011-2017, or who needs to replace one that's broken?

>>15232864

My mother and I were in the electronics store yesterday, actually, looking around and I showed her a Switch and talked about it. She was interested in the idea (though it took two times to explain how TV mode works), but found the price point (and availability to pirate) of the 3ds far more appealing. She wanted to get one for my little sister, but doesn't quite have the money right now. I think it's mostly parents buying it for kids as it's a cheap piece of shit by any standards.

>>15232885

God knows, maybe. A certain portion of people would probably be the kind that buys anything Nintendo shits out. For the rest, multiplayer is a big focus of the Switch so Arms might appeal to some people, and 1-2 Switch might be an easy sell to retarded parents and grandparents who would want to get this for a kid.

>>15232382

It's disappointing that Bayonetta didn't hit a million, still thrilled for Xenoblade 2 though.

>>15232974

April's financial report stated that Bayonetta on Switch sold 400k, and 300k on Wii U. Quite niche, it seems, I wonder what the budget was. Maybe 3 will do better?

>>15232894

Kirby harkens to a simpler time when a game could sell 250k and be a success. I wish we could go back to those glorious AA days.

Also just to let people know, Kirby also gets substantial cash on the side thanks to merch. Kirby merch is big and has been big for years in Japan. It's probably why Kirby had a better 20th and 25th anniversary than Mario himself. Of course Kirby merch probably doesn't affect Nintendo itself since Hal is likely in charge of that, but it's important to note.

>>15232382

They've sold so many units because they've blurred the line between handheld and home console. Stationar switch would definetly sell about 10m units…

>>15233063

That just means that their move paid off, really, doesn't it? Their consoles haven't been doing well since N64. The SNES was the last time they won a console race (and barely, at that), and the Wii was a fluke, though I suppose cannot be ignored either. Look how trying to recreate it went, though.

This is why the idea of still making games for 3DS is so backwards - the whole point of merging the two divisions was to have more games for your console. They could have made WarioWare for Switch and made it interesting, albeit gimmicky as shit with the joycons and Labo

At the end of the day, the reasons why it's selling well are interesting, but not important. The PS4 not having games doesn't matter when discussing sales numbers either.

I recall, when Fortnite was revealed for Switch, a disgusting amount of people saying "damn, I just bought a PS4 to play Fortnite, I should have waited."

>>15233063

>>15233077

What makes no sense is why they're settling for this instead of making a real handheld.

>>15233082

Because their handhelds sell, but their home consoles don't. This is (or was supposed to be) a way to merge the two together, and in the process, save the shekels on making two devices and have more games on your console so more incentives to buy it (that second one didn't work out as well, though).

I would have settled for a handheld with an HDMI out, but normalfags do not understand that concept, the dock is much easier to market at a glance.

Basically, they know there's money to make from the home console side, but making a full console is no longer worth it, so they made this instead.

>>15233077

Yeah you're right. I still love gb wario ware, ds version was very decent as well.

>>15233082

It's probably due to the fact that most of chink customers still use 3DS, it's online features, developers are still active there. In nippon they sometimes dare to release ps2 game in ps4 prime time…

>>15233092

>>15233093

My point is that if you're so averse to making multiple platforms, why even bother with the home console? Just make a proper handheld instead of this horrible piece of shit that no one's taking on the train.

>>15233102

>horrible piece of shit that no one's taking on the train.

They are in Japan and that's all that matters to the execs there

>>15233082

They need a powerful handheld to distinguish it from the mobileshit market. Combining it with the home console makes sense from that perspective, since it means the Switch can be a handheld but not have mouthbreathers going "hurr y cant i play nintendo on iphone???"

>>15233105

>They are in Japan

That's the thing, they aren't - generally it's treated as a home console in Japan, because it's too inconvenient to actually take out.

>>15233106

The Switch is a handheld in name only though, people aren't whipping it out on the trains the way they do 3DSes and Vitas.

>>15233102

>>15233105

I think they could get away with something like upgraded PS Vita at this day and age. Stupid crap joycons flawed by design? Ergonomics? Who the fuck needs that, just cram some shitty controllers and some mini netbook with internal fan (xD) that still cannot prevent this plastic piece of shit from bending. 300USD, it doesn't event have a fucking glass screen that wont scrath so easly. Wake me up I can't even…

>>15233123

>I think they could get away with something like upgraded PS Vita at this day and age

You absolutely could with the right exclusives.

>>15233106

>>15233118

The three families that actually bought the Wii U liked being able to kick the kid off the TV without him throwing a tantrum. The Switch lets them do that, and also destroys the Wii U functionality of two screens at once, so it's a win-win for lazy gaming and lazy programming. Not only that, this way they can sell local multiplayer games like Mario Party without weird cable hookups (remember: normalfags) or multiple consoles: instead, you just have to buy multiple Joycons, which are expensive as fuck! They learned that trick from the Wii.

>>15232382

Does that include 3rd party or only nintendo's titles?

>>15233194

It's only Nintendo-made and Nintendo-published games. Fortnite, while being free, got 2 mil downloads on launch day on Switch so it would be there. No newer numbers are available, but it's been a month and a half, so I assume it's a lot more by now.

>>15232611

>>15232621

>>15232628

>>15232582

>All that shit

>No Killer Instinct Gold

This isn't Ice, This isn't even cool.

>>15233118

Actually, based on World wide surveys, handheld use and docked use is pretty evenly split.

I use mine in handheld most, if not all of the time.

>>15233063

One of the most utterly bizarre things I seen about people wanting to buy a Switch over the past year is that their really is an silent untapped audience out there that wants to play "console" games (even ports) on a "portable" device which the Switch happens to fulfill and now they are being vocal about it.

>I would totally buy Rocket League if it was on the Switch!

>I want to play Fortnite on a good portable!

Gonna be interesting if Warframe results in more new Switch owners.

>>15233082

There probably stuck with trying to come up with a new hardware "gimmick" for it.

Two screens? Do people like that still after the Wii U?

Touch screen? Every phone has one.

Costly glasses free 3D stereoscopic display that only 1/3 of owners use and can't really demonstrated in a TV ads?

Tilt/gyro that doesn't deactivate the stereoscopic 3D gimmick?

Better augmented reality function that doesn't break after a 30cm range?

Rear touch pad like the PS Vita?

Biometrics?

No buttons/circle pad hardware input on the handheld as standard but uses the Joy-Cons for control input instead?

>>15234562

>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, a port, also enjoys a >50% attach rate

MK8D is one of the few Switch titles that also has 4 player splitscreen even in handheld mode

>There was gonna be two new fighters after Coyle, but the game bombed so hard they gave up and just put the resources into Splatoon.

They only planned 4 DLC characters, then the dev team found that Springtron could be made in a playable fighter (instead of just a boss) increasing it to 5 (I'll admit I have seen those file dumps of rumored character file names that is higher than 5 so who knows what was planned). After that the team moved on to new projects (while the Splatoon dev team still handles Splatoon 2)

>>15232992

Those aren't bad numbers, either way it doesn't really matter so much since Bayo 3 is still happening.

>>15234080

>Worldwide

There's your problem. I'm talking about in Japan.

>>15234926

>There probably stuck with trying to come up with a new hardware "gimmick" for it.

That's what I'm most afraid of, to be honest. Hopefully it'll be something as 100% ignorable as the 3D shit was.

>>15232864

What's wrong with waiting until the library is almost completely out, the price is really low, all the models are out, and hacking and piracy are at their easiest? The only thing you're missing is the height of popularity of multiplayer.

>>15232899

It's good but not amazing. Wait for the final free DLC to drop and buy at half price.

>hate Xenoblade 2 for the censorship

>love how mad it made liberals

Fuck it, I'll accept this.

>>15235489

Xenoblade 2 had some flaws but it's one of the only modern games I've played where I feel the devs actually cared while making it. The details in the environments alone were really nice. I actually had lots of fun simply exploring, something I haven't felt in a game in at least a decade. I'm happy it did decent in sales.

>>15235688 (heil'd)

And it's getting expansions. Must've done well enough to warrant expansion packs.

>>15235688

Yeah I’ve really enjoyed it so far, on chapter 9. It also pleases me quite a bit that this is by far the best selling xeno game. Since this one was filled with fan service and lewd content which wasn’t censored. This fact is driving places like reset era insane.

>>15235489

>2017 was the rise of niche games

>niche games

>selling well

does not compute

Good The Switch is the best console since the Ps2

>>15235751

If that "leak" about Elma being in Smash is true (which I highly fucking doubt) then my guess would be it's to help promote the sequel to X which ended on a cliffhanger, and judging from Monolith Soft's comments, they'd prefer to do a story-based sequel without player made characters, which would likely make Elma the MC, or one of. And on top of that, she'd have a sweet alt-form for a final smash.

>>15236330

I mostly just enjoy niche indie shit at the moment, so yeah, I'd have to agree. The Switch is the perfect fit for those games, and you get Nintendo's franchises on top.

>>15235072

>Xenoblade 2 for the censorship

What Censorship? The game save for some name changes and some dialogue it was full of ass and tits that weren't censored.

>>15236358

>Xenoblade Chronicles hates by fans because of Censorship

>Xenoblade 2 hated by game reviewers because it wasn't censored

Who is more important?

>>15236358

>save for some name changes and some dialogue

Bob's your uncle.

>>15236365

X was censored, not Xenoblade 1. R-right?

>Xenoblade Chronicles 2 with only 1.42 mil

This is kinda bad isnt it?

>>15236428

1.42m for a JRPG is good (one not named Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest that is). Especially when you realise the Switch only has an install base of nearly 20m ("only" 20m after a year on the market), that means nearly 10% of the people that bought a Switch bought XC2.

>>15236406

Yeah, meant X

>>15232382

>3DS is still pretty big

F O R Y O U

>>15236358

And even considering that, the content is still technically there if you play with Japanese voices. I'd say it's not so much censorship as much as some odd localization choices. I have a feeling they wanted some character names to sound "cool" and fit in with the over the top presentation of the story. I'd still take that localization over anything done by Treehouse or NISA, especially since the original dialogue and names are still intact for those that are interested.

>>15232835

Shader compiling has been changed for both RPCS3 and Cemu.

>>15232611

>Conker's Bad Fur Day

Lets be real. Outside of the multiplayer, the gameplay in this game is hot garbage. It's always "Do this thing 3 times" usually carrying some object really slowly while avoiding obstacles. The quirkiness of is what carries it. Still one of the few N64 games I was able to actually beat without getting bored halfway through. Can't say the same thing for Banjo

>>15236637

4cucks went down when they started leaking Pedowoods dirty laundry. So naturally console politics is going to pop up here.

>>15236637

>>15236776

I enjoy sales statistics more than most vidya, frankly, it's just always been my brand of autism. While sales don't matter much in most cases, it can be useful to see where the industry, or a company in particular, is going. For example, all the faggots begging for F-Zero probably don't realize that the last big F-Zero game, GX for GC, sold like shit. It didn't make it into the Gamecube's top 40, and sold significantly less than a Naruto game, a Bratz game and a Shrek game. Considering it's reported to be the most expensive F-Zero game and one of the most expensive games Nintendo made at the time, no wonder they wouldn't make another one, especially when a port of an old racing game sells ten million.

If other companies released sales numbers that were as interesting and detailed, I'd love to see them as well, but usually most companies either don't, or bullshit their failures far too hard, like Sega with Sonic Forces.

>>15236428

>>15236437

It also makes Nintendo of Europe translation team look good as reduces the clout that Treehouse has, back in 2010 NoE took the task (short term risk?) of localizing the original XC (which did manage to sell but possibly close to a million but combined with half million that N3DS port would get it over a million) and as the franchise continues (long term reward?) this has now lead to much higher selling XC2.

>>15237116

You want to make the F-Zero GX fact more depressing, for all the flak it gets ARMS has higher sales numbers than GX. The only F-Zero game to actually truly sell in the millions is the original SNES game which had the benefit of being a launch title, while FZX and FZMV (GBA launch title) seem to have barely gotten over a million.

I don't know if it's because of the memetic effect of Smash Bros version of Captain Falcon but a lot of people want a new F-Zero but certainly didn't support the series in the past.

>>15237578

>ARMS has higher sales numbers than GX

Has almost surpassed the Gamecube in hardware sales.

You idiots are acting surprised everything's selling so well when the Switch is probably the biggest hit with non-casual gamers since the 360. Go check out all the youtube videos with millions of views talking about how it's the best console ever. There's literally dozens of Switch-only channels that get millions of views on each video. And go look at /r/nintendoswitch. 750k subs and it's like a fucking cult. I mentioned staying on lower firmware there once and I had a pack of psychos downvoting and harassing me about why - homebrew/piracy is like a sin against their god. It's weird.

>>15237849

>posting on reddit

>expecting anything good

It really is inoperable.

I don't think anything really excuses GX's failure. You could try to make up conspiracies about how Nintendo wanted to sabotage the game because it's made by Sega, and that might be true, god knows, but either way, the end result was a flop that lost them a lot of money, according to dev accounts. It's a shame, I'm not too big on F-Zero but I had fun with the SNES game, and I don't really want to see series die like that.

I think we'll see a low-budget F-Zero "nostalgia-fest" soon, maybe not for the Switch but for the next console, along the lines of Punch Out Wii.

I wonder what's the bigger culprit, though, the failure of GX or the massive success of Mario Kart, as it is a racing game, technically, and that's all that matters to the execs.

As for the cult thing, I've had arguments with Xboxfags before, and the shit they forgive is depressing. It's not because they haven't seen better, it's just because they haven't really PLAYED better. So 30fps is good enough, shit texture quality is good enough and even when they admit that a game is shit, like PUBG, they can't stop playing because "It's just fun". And don't even ask about piracy, holy shit.

I'm surprised Xenoblade 2 has only got 2 figures.

>>15237578

I don't think ARMs selling better then it is more depressing then a Bratz game outselling it.

>>15237899

cringeanarchy is pretty fun sometimes

With F-Zero, and the other great games on Gamecube that underperformed, I think it was just lack of enthusiasm about the hardware. People buy shitty Switch games because they love their Switch. Doesn't happen as often on more niche platforms where casuals just buy the biggest heavy-hitters. Gamecube and Wii U were kinda similar in that way.

>I've had arguments with Xboxfags

PS4/Xbone fanboys are usually cawadoody AAA casual gamers. AAA multiplats are almost universally trash, neither console has good exclusives, and if anyone was passionate enough about modern shit to be a fanboy, they'd have to be soyboys or shitskins.

>>15237967

>>15237899

>xboxfags

Fuck, I'm tired and didn't even address your point. Meant to emphasize that Switch owners are on another level. I'd recommend checking out /r/nintendoswitch for yourself if you're curious. They do legitimate cult-type behaviors like emotional manipulation and have a ferocious crab-mentality.

>>15237967

An interesting idea. Indies seem to do quite well on Switch, and I still haven't quite figured out why that is, aside for the whole "take it anywhere lol" gimmick. Seems like that's a gimmick that is more appealing in people's imaginations than it is in practice. YOU CAN PLAY ANYTHING ANYWHERE sounds cool, but if you're going outside, you're probably gonna be busy most of the time. But hey, the point of Marketing is to sell your product.

>>15237997

Reminds me of Apple in a lot of ways. Not surprising in the slightest.

The big difference, I suppose, is that Xboxfags hate (or claim to hate) Microsoft but still take its cock up their asses. With Nintendo, a lot of their practices are defended blindly, and hell, I come from the camp that defends DMCAing fangames if the retards try to make money off of it, like the Patreonfags tend to do. I wonder if BotW and Odyssey really brought in the same retards the typically defend Bethesda games into this group, or if Nintendo fans are just more rabid now that they have a success. Hard to be smug with something like the Wii U.

>>15237116

Have you looked into the downloads of mobile games and cross-referenced it with the sales of their console counterparts (e.g. Fire Emblem Heroes downloads showed a positive relationship with recent sales of the newest game in the series)? Something like that seems like what the new Nintendo president is interested in.

>>15238020

It'd be hard to compare, to be honest. There are too many variables to take into account. For example, you could say that Mario Run drummed up interest in Odyssey, but it's more likely that it seemed the most lively and imaginative game in the series in a long time. For Fire Emblem, you could dismiss a success as "more adults own it than a 3ds so it makes sense". For Pokemon, that will be the interesting one, however, again, part of it can be attributed to it being a simplified, normalfag-ified version that appeals to the retarded. However, it does tie into Go, so it'd be interesting to see how Let's Go does compared to Pokemon 2019 (which is still sort of flawed, since that will be the second game, and in all cases of Pokemon that I could find, the first game for the console is the best selling one)

What's far easier to see is how games affect console sales. I remember looking over a couple series in particular, those being Smash Bros, Pokemon and Animal Crossing. What I found is that Animal Crossing had a small but noticeable bump in console sales, probably due to couples playing together or something of the sort. Pokemon, likewise, has massive bumps of console sales. Smash Bros, on the other hands, does not increase it significantly over otherwise expected holiday sales. It makes sense. You can be a Pokemon fan and not care about the rest of Nintendo, but you can't like Smash and hate Nintendo. Most Smash fans are probably early adopters. It might have a bigger impact on Switch, though, because it's only year two so far, so it's more likely for people to wait.

The one statistic that I do have about the mobile games is that Mario Run was the fastest game in App store history to reach 100 mil downloads. Pokemon Go took five days later, and Fortnite took a few weeks extra still.

>>15238016

>Seems like that's a gimmick that is more appealing in people's imaginations than it is in practice.

Gonna fanboyfag a bit, I love they hybrid home console/portable nature of the Switch. I am probably just as in love with the hardware as the other retards. I play probably 80% of the time just lying in bed, but being able to do that and then get up and go over to my computer desk and drop it in the dock and play on my moniter is so awesome. Having "console" experiences on a portable is so cool. It's basically a portable 360, graphics-wise, which is perfectly adequete for large, 3D games. I've always loved handhelds because gaming on them feels more intimate, and being able to explore huge worlds in that intimate handheld way is everything I wanted. It's why the Switch is so explosively successful.

It's also why people forgive faults in the games. Like how BOTW is fairly empty or how Super Mario Odyssey is incredibly easy - they love the hardware and so anything associated with it gets seen through rose-tinted glasses.

I'm not a fag though I sold all my games the instant sig-patches came out and re-pirated everything lol

>>15238075

Pretty much this, lotta people play handheld (like 50%) the majority of the time. As a kid, I've always wanted a console I can play on the go, and on the TV with ease, closest i got was the psp go (with hdmi dock)

>>15236345

It's basically a better Vita. Yeah the Vita was a better portable, but the Switch is just a better system period. It'll only get better overtime with the stuff the homebrew scene has cooking.

>>15232976

I was going to say that sometimes teenagers are referred to as kids (like in scooby-doo) but then I looked up the manual and she's 11.

http://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_N64//Manual/formated/Snowboard_Kids_-_1998_-_Atlus_Co.,_Ltd..pdf

Huh, software to hardware ratio on the switch is not bad. Better than the wiis lifetime software sale which was about 1 1/2 games to a console including sports

>>15232420

This kirby games was really bare compared to others and too expensive for the amount of content. Nintendo needs to work on better pricing of games based on content, kirby deserved to be a 40$ game on the switch

>>15232447

>kirby was rushed

Thats pretty believable.

>>15234562

>A big world with nothing in it, pretty much an Ubisoft game but with a Zelda skin.

what scares me is that it has less personality than even fucking skyrim. Fucking skyrim for fuck sakes. Its a camp, hike and rockclimb simulator without half the stuff that make any of them fun irl. It qlso missed an opportunity for fishing mechanics anywheres in the world.

>>15233175

except it works

Is OP implying these numbers are big? Because i don't see any record here. It's going all right, that's it.

>>15232582

>Makes a list of N64 games that he considers are quality vidya

>Doesn't even include Star Fox 64 or Ocarina of Time.

Are all emuniggers this retarded?

>>15243648

It outsold the Wii U in less than a year, close to outselling the Gamecube in one year three months. It's also outpacing

Assuming a five year life cycle since any more is iffy, it's shaping up to be their second best home console of all time, right after the Wii. I doubt they'll reach the heights of the original DS, but it could also end up being their second best handheld, since the 3DS is lingering around 73 million right now (I wish to separate the GB from the GBC but no sales numbers do that, so it's hard to compare).

For something that is such a departure from both traditional consoles and handhelds, and really is a massive experiment in every way, being the second best selling Nintendo console and second best selling Nintendo handheld? Those would be some pretty fucking great numbers.

Also realize that it's 2/3 of the way to outselling the Xbox one, which has been on the market for five years.

I wouldn't say that the numbers are record-breaking, and I'm not delusional enough to say that this thing will sell 140 mil units like that one Swiss firm did, but it's going to do well, if they keep the momentum up.

>>15243691

To be fair, when it came out OoT was the worst Zelda game not counting the CDi ones. No excuse for forgetting Star Fox though.

>>15251772

Nintendo of America =/= Nintendo

>>15232827

regressions 'r us, last time I checked

DeS is unplayable with the most recent builds in spite of it being playable on a much older one