/v/ - Video Games

>shitty required motion control shit

the oculus touch controllers are actually pretty good for titles that support them. but I understand what you mean.

It's nice to see somebody else complain about the wagglan for a change.

Sometimes it seemed like I was the only one who cared just like with every other horrible thing happening with computers that everyone else accepts without a second thought.

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>>15225579

>Do you have an android phone?

yeah I have an android phone, but its not very powerful. it's just a $40 J3 Luna pro but it has marshmello.

>buy actual VR headset.

I bought a used Oculus+touch controls for $179 and it seems to work great with my gtx 1060, so far I relly liked Waltz of the Wizard, spell casting is fun, but the maze of dead part is mega creepy.

the only old/non VR game i've played is Vanguard Princess (the pseudo 3D effect on backgrounds is really neat)

>like with every other horrible thing happening with computers.

what else is happening?

So If I wanted to play Batman arkham asylum, Spiderman 2 or The Punisher (with first person mod) on an oculus rift, what's the best way to go about doing that?

(pretty sure these game all have NVidia 3d glasses support, does that help?)

>>15225455

Take it from a richfag like me. I bought all the gear, set up a room specifically for VR… 2 months into it I hardly used any of it, so I sold it all on ebay to recoup a sliver of my initial investment.

VR sucks, and it will for a long time to come. Some things just arent meant to be. Wait 15 years for when it's an actually viable platform

>>15225892

I disagree all the vr stuff i've tried so far has been awesome. especially the vr porn. companies just need to put out more products (games and glove controllers).

>>15225950

>I disagree all the vr stuff i've tried so far has been awesome.

You have low standards and are easily impressed.

I've seen a few glimmers of promise, but for the most part it's all commercial tech demos and low-effort indieshit leaning on the broken crutch of VR for immersion to heighten the "experience". Those few games which are actually promising are either gimped, because they're trying to run actual games at 90+fps on consoles the only platform with a notable install base for VR which were out of date before they even launched - or have fuck-all for a budget because just breaking even is a huge success for a VR title at this point.

Ironically, one of the better VR games I've played was Sony's shitty little tech-demo minigame they gave away for free to get people sold on the technology after they already bought it. Robot Rescue or something. A third person platformer which is not half bad. Moss isn't bad either, but again - way too short to be considered a decent VR title.

So far the best VR games are still Resident Evil 7 and Wipeout Omega Collection. GORN looks like it could be fun, but I can quickly see it getting old quick because it seems to have all the depth of a mobile game plus it's wagglin shit.

I feel like I should mention the Sega Genesis Collection too, since it just got the VR update that PC's had forever now. It has good games, at least, included in the package - but for VR it's really only noteworthy for the meta of getting the experience of sitting in front of your TV playing vidya while you sit in front of your TV playin vidya with yet another TV strapped to your head. The absolute state of VR, right there.

>>15226212

> Sega Genesis Collection

is that based on the 3ds titles that had real stereo 3d support baked in (like streets of rage with its 3d parallax scrolling) or is it just 2d game roms on a fake TV in a virtual environment?

>>15226369

>is it just 2d game roms on a fake TV in a virtual environment?

It is just 2d game roms on a fake TV in a virtual environment. Easily the worst Sega Genesis collection I've played, as it comes with nothing in the way of scans of printed materials, unlockable games, interviews, trivia, or any of that shit. Worse yet, for putting such a focus on the virtual environment - they completely fucked up the design of the Sega Genesis itself and the cartridges all have the same generic labeling rather than authentic cartridge sticker art. Most of the props for the virtual environment are generic as well, when they could have filled it up with reproductions of actual Sega toys and posters and rare promotional materials (which you could perhaps unlock by completing challenges).

Then again, this wasn't done in-house by Sega. They farmed it out to D3T for a quick turn-around on some paid roms. Also, the emulation stutters.

>>15226708

> successfully pushing VR is something (((they))) want.

i've never seen a good argument proving that. most (((game journalists))) talk shit about VR and are always putting up clickbait articles about VR being dead. zuckerberg's involvement is the most jewish thing about VR. valve and samsung have also pushed VR. Sony… (is becoming jewish). VR sets ups are like VCRs and DVD players, the content can be subversive but the technology itself is neutral.

>>15226805

I not sure I understand your argument, in 1989 I played Super Mario Bros on my NES with a CRT TV (using RF) and jumped on enemies. in 2018 I played Lucky's Tale VR on my PC with an Oculus Rift VR headset (because its cheaper then an HTC vive) and jumped on enemies. besides graphics and stereoscopic 3D, what's the difference (why is one worse then the other?)

>>15226842

>VR goes hand in hand with "immersive" "interactive" garbage that completely misses the point of video GAMES.

video games (marketing) have always used the "immersive" and "interactive" buzz words since at least the CD era.

>It's the perfect thing for propaganda walking simulators that conveniently are being pushed around the same time VR has taken off.

walking simulators are a byproduct of western SJW millennials being lazy shit bags with no talent, or work ethic pushing out easily made tash with moden (off the shelf) game engines. so they can regurgitate mainstream leftist politics from their ecco chamber (the entire western gaming industry is an incestus sewer of these types) real games take time and talent to make (and also money). I don't think the idea behind VR has any connection to that.

you could argue that the entire technology sector in the west is completly subverted. but asia also has it own ideological problems.

>>15226870

>I agree that it's perfect for propaganda

how is it any better for propaganda then a regular monitor/screen? VR is a display technology, thats it. VR headsets also have a much higher barrier to entry then all other display types. wouldn't that make it worse for propaganda?

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>>15226842

I think you guys are thinking about AR, not VR. AR has way more potential for evil dystopian corporate shit then VR. (Microsoft, Google, Apple, and Intel are Pushing for a world filled with AR)

>>15226904

>Of course it's still in early stages and we don't know if it'll take off but it could even become as widespread as TV.

Never, real VR headsets will always be a big clunky thing thats uncomfortable for most people. its only real use is for people that want to shut the world out for a 2 or 3 hour block of time (more then that is overkill and a bit painful) its for men that are into games and video tech in general (not a huge audience) and it also has some benefit to designers and for other creative tasks (but that could be eaten up by AR at some point) VR also doesn't work the same way on females. the 3D effect looks like garbe for them and they also suffer way more from 3D motion sickness. so VR will almost always be a niche (mostly) male pastime (still a lot of money to be made from that audience) but it will never be like TV or cell phones.

>>15226842

> It's the perfect thing for propaganda walking simulators that conveniently are being pushed around the same time VR has taken off.

Purely a coincidence, I'm sure, but most of those walking sim "experiences" are not profitable and are either propped up as tax shelters or survive on grant money precisely because they're pushing a narrative (or soaking up cash that's supposed to expand R&D). The thing is, they don't sell, and they don't sell even in a market where there is literally nothing else to buy.

If they're trying to push propaganda, they couldn't have picked a worse avenue to so in, or in a more hostile market. If they're trying to soak up grants or launder money, it's a prime avenue because absolutely fucking nobody is paying too close of attention to it.

As of right now VR is ideal for architecture/interior designing, seeing as it's a manipulable virtual reality. The main limiting factor right now is its low resolution. Once the resolution gets high enough to compare to desktop monitors they'll become viable replacements. But until then they'll remain a niche. Samsung displayed a 1000ppi 120hz oled screen earlier this year so hopefully the higher resolutions come sooner than later.

>>15227122

Fuck no,it sucks for design, it wobbles all the time and you have to adjust your head just to get the fucking camera angle right if you want to look at something, meanwhile you can just adjust the camera fine and precisely with a mouse or get a trackball mouse if you are fully into it.

I'd argue immersion is subjective and thus not the main attractive of VR so for me all VR does for games is to introduce the camera tracking, freeing your right hand for more actions, unfortunately VR takes care of that by making the extra functionality a series of wagglan gimmicks which is often worse than a keyboard command.

>>15234203

>Playing desktop games in VR actually incredibly fucking sucks and if you buy VR because of that you're a retard.

Friend of mine has a Thrustmaster T500 RS and a Vive and racing games are incredibly fun with those two.