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>not playing Oolite

>>15221391

The game doesn't explain the best way to make money in combat. Fly to a Resource Extraction Site and kill targets with bounties on them, then turn in the bounties for credits.

Alternately if you make some friends you can do wing trade missions which can rake in the dough, I bumped into some people who let me join them and I went from the Type-6 to owning one of the most expensive ships in the game fully kitted out in about two nights of trading.

Fun though? I don't know if that exists in E:D. I thought I'd find fun when I had good ships and playing around the community goal but after I got killed for the nth time by some shithead ganker I put the game down. If you fight someone who has a good ship and they have all of their gear specialized I don't think there's a damn thing you can do.

Exploration takes a while, but it makes you a fuckton of money. However, I haven't played this game in a few months, because it's gonna take forever to get back to human space.

I still think it's a decent time killer if you have the Autist's Focus perk

>Is this game really just mindless grinding or am i doing it wrong?

yes its a grind. you can grind different ways, which can sometimes be fun, but definitely gets old after a while

>Can i do something challenging and rewarding in this game?

not really besides fighting other competent players. theres only a few things to do in e;d

>Is this game really just mindless grinding

Yeah basically. If you want to make decent money you don't do missions though you do shit like kite out your ship to carry the most number of people possible and do short distance taxi missions or fly out into resource extraction sites and kill as many people possible. Missions are really for getting reputation with factions so you can do things like get more valuable passenger targets, getting faction rank, and eventually getting access to 'higher paying' missions that will still be horribly inefficient at getting those sweet sweet space credits but they can give you engineering materials which are more or less necessary for high level PvE and PvP content since they let you kite out your ship.

In terms of other fun ways of making money you have piracy which you need to know exactly where to go what modules to run and what to do, and mining which is terrible what idiot goes mining in this game?

>Is there anything challenging and rewarding I can do

I mean you've got Thargoids and fighting those Capital Ships but you should probably have a properly engineered out ship for either of those especially the Thargoids.

tl;dr Yeah Elite is a massive grind Why can't I stop playing?

>Is this game really just mindless grinding

Yes.

>>15221681

No.

>>15221391

Didn't used to be as bad as it is now. The engineers update ruined the game. They've since fixed a lot of the problems, but it still is a net negative on the game. Still forces you to grind aspects of the game you don't care about in order to be competitive in PvP. (This was somewhat alleviated with that materials market, but not completely.) It all but killed off Power Play, with no sign of it ever being useful again. I've only occasionally played after engineers. Just haven't been able to get back into it.

Before engineers I had the Anaconda, Corvette, Cutter, FAD, FDL, and Courier maxed out without doing any exploits (except the rank grind for Cutter). Power play is still dead, I don't want to grind for 100 hours just to full engineer one combat ship for PvP. There is still a earnings penalty for bounty hunting in a wing. I really enjoyed the game, there's just a massive grind between me and the fun.

>>15222857

>I can't believe it's the 34th century and outbreaks like this can still happen. What do we pay our taxes for?

IT'S THE CURRENT CENTURY SHITLORD

DISEASES ARE OFFENSIVE

The X-series is much better than this

The hardcore grognards on the forums are fighting tooth and nail to prevent any changes that add player agency and Frontier wouldn't be capable of implementing anything like that anyway because there is no underlying system to support agency. The only "freedom" a player has is to choose which aspect to grind endlessly and even those core mechanics are never improved or updated. It took them years to add a filter so limpet drones don't pick up shit you don't want.

>>15223407

Realistically, you can still fuck up systems through manipulating the background simulation, but you won't see any effect of it other than maybe NPCs bitching or a station going into lockdown. It's even worse being able to actually change something, but see nothing come of it. They're adding clans and clan owned carriers til the end of the year, but I doubt it'll be anything other than an expanded friends list and a station you can move around when you want, because the old farts on the forums will repeatedly scream about griefers, "Muh EVE ONLINE!!!" and how it wasn't like this back in 1984.

>>15223407

I wonder how you would improve this game, the technical foundation is so strong, nothing immediately stands out as badly implemented, it's just all so monotonous and bland.

I think a big part would be adding a little more human identification to the game, the Powerplay portraits are pretty much all there is, everything else is excel sheets or looking at the ugly faces of some brown skinned space punks at every station.

>more voice lines in general

>propaganda videos from the local / powerplay factions

>more identifyable traits of the local factions apart from just a name

>be able to full-on join forces with a local faction, fight for their cause

>you are met with hostility if your faction is not liked at the local station

>icons / images for wares in the market

And in general, being able to influence the world more. Im sure the >background simulation is complicated as fuck but i have no idea what is actually going on.

>>15223950

The BGS pretty easy to understand right now and works via a transaction system, every manipulation of said systems feels like a hack instead of something logical since say you want to pull a system out of a state of lockdown, killing 99999 criminal ships and handing out the bounties will count as "one" transaction, which means that to actually do something it's better to kill one ship, hand out one bounty, kill one ship, hand out one bounty. It sucks big deal tbh

Elite 2 = 3 > 1 > 4

Reminder that 4 was originally going to be a single player game but they turned it into a pseudo MMO after seeing the success of the Sham Citizen kickstarter. I know because I'm a pre-kickstarter backer who got royally fucking shafted.

>>15221422

same grindy shit. elite is a faulty concept to begin with.

this game is shit, just get no man sky, a better game.

>>15224532

lol fag

>>15221649

Is that a mod?

I don't remember those effects.

Because the devs don't have a framework for quick updates, every update takes ages to do and the game isn't playable during that time. This makes them very reluctant to roll out small updates, so they can't do things like fix extreme cash making exploits as soon as they're discovered or make small balance changes to carefully test and balance the game.

Instead exploits are around for months and we only get rare, large balance changes that simply create a new and equally imbalanced meta.

Having a quick update framework isn't hard. Run your servers on virtual machines, with an active set and a patching set. When you have an update, you update the patching set; players are still playing the old version on the active set. You then put the patching set online and make it the new active set; players get a message to please restart and have up to 24 hours before being booted off and forced to update. Players who connect during this time are sent to the new version, same with anyone who restarts.

The result is zero downtime patching, letting you push small updates for fine tuning balance and fixing bugs and exploits quickly. Frontier refuses to do it.

>>15225450

Has always been like that. Pretty is the only thing this game does right.

>>15225475

>Because the devs don't have a framework for quick updates

>Implying it's not just laziness on their part

>>15224646

It sort of is, especially with the new update. Compared to Elite though it looks bad and has shit combat. Aside from that you can do so much more in the game.

Also Frontier are uber jews. Anyone still remember them announcing that they were axing the single player offline of the game 1 month before releasing the game? And now they have the gall to ask for more money with each update. At least No Man's Sky devs do massive updates for free.

>>15221391

>Is this game really just mindless grinding?

frankly yes. every part of the game's arc is designed to just keep you grinding. in fairness it's pretty up front about it but no, there is nothing to this game aside from space trucking and gradually upgrading to larger cargos and bigger runs, or grinding combat so you can buy a better ship to grind more combat etc

>>15228956

No, they actually don't have a framework for quick updates. When they do update, the servers have to go down for a while, which shows they haven't set up a proper system running on virtual machines.

>>15222857

>Second Image

>Kill Enemy, They win

Space canada?

>>15230754

Space Quebec. Seems like all our worst Prime Ministers are french canadian, they want to ruin this country out of spite, much like the french did to Europe.

>>15232444

If only you could access it during loading warping…

>>15223950

>it's just all so monotonous and bland.

Basically my Elite experience since the 8bit days.

So they implemented it properly, why change?

I wish Vega Strike hadn't been abandoned.

>>15232620

Wait, was he fired from Google? That'd be hilarious.