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1b23e4 No.15201854

Total noob to this genre, but started playing a few of them recently and absolutely fucking love the slower, more measured pace and the depth it allows.

I played master of orion 2 on a recommendation from a friend and really liked what they did with the charming graphics, sound and game design. I also played some Civ 4, which I got into only last week, but my friend told me to stick to older titles and since he has a hard on for space games he said Alpha Centauri is the way to go, but not the expansion.

I figured I'd ask here too since I feel like pirating some older titles. I have a list of mainly pre-2000 4x games that would be good to get feedback on and discuss whether they are worth playing or not

Other master of orion games (1 and 3, not interested in new one)

Master of magic

Heroes of might and magic series if that counts as 4x

Galactic civilisations series

Alpha centauri, which i haven't played yet but looks like it's based on older civ games

Age of wonder series

Any other suggestions very welcome.

403de0 No.15201879

Master of Orion 2 is the highpoint of the genre. All new games have been ripping it off hard and feel like mods for it more than brand new titles.


49e5ab No.15202082

Download Alpha Centauri right now


1b23e4 No.15202106

>>15202082

Yeah, intend to! Shame the thread is so quiet, i thought these games would be popular with /v/


4ee981 No.15202116

Is Space Empires III good? I remember watching my northern play that when we were like, 10. Apparently he liked to blow up the sun's in any system that gave him trouble, that sounded cool.


4ee981 No.15204021

>>15202116

*Brother. I guess I'm autistic.


eeb546 No.15204027

>>15202106

Feels like former 4X fags that enjoyed Civ probably moved on to the Grand Strategy Games.


009a0f No.15204040

>>15201879

this

>>15201854

>Other master of orion games (1 and 3, not interested in new one)

the new one isn't that bad. it's nowhere near the moo2, though

>Heroes of might and magic series if that counts as 4x

stick with 3

>Galactic civilisations series

2 is the best. 3 is crap but expansions fix it

>Alpha centauri

stick with the original. the expansion messes stuff up a bit


250b3d No.15204042

>>15201854

>Other master of orion games (1 and 3, not interested in new one)

The first one is actually better than the second, the third barely works and isn't very good but it was an interesting game.

>Master of magic

It's very good, very similar to Master of Orion 2.

>Heroes of might and magic series if that counts as 4x

It's not at all 4x but it's a good series.

>Galactic civilisations series

Very generic and inferior to the Master of Orion series.

>Alpha centauri, which i haven't played yet but looks like it's based on older civ games

Best in the genre and your friend is right that it's best played without the expansion, at least to begin with.


0fe0b7 No.15204052

>>15201854

>MoO

It doesn't matter if you play 1 or 2, they're both good.

>HoM&M

not really a 4X

>SMAC

Download it right fucking now!

>Galciv

get 2

>Age of Wonders

iirc it's light on everything that's not warfare.

>>15202116

iirc Space Empires series is also decent

I think most of these games are available on GoG, so it'll be pretty easy to play them even on W7


2cdf76 No.15204060

>>15204027

That's the feeling I get too. It doesn't help that every new Civilization is the worst and everyone's favorite of all time is their first.


6647b3 No.15204139

Every time I play a 4x game it makes me want an actually good god game.


250b3d No.15204201

>>15204139

Like Black & White, Populous and From Dust?


0ade15 No.15204234

If you love slow strategy, MEIOU and Taxes is the best bet for you.

That game's pace can be described as nothing less than glacial.


08f947 No.15204398

I enjoy, HOI, CK2, EU and Endless Space.


0fe0b7 No.15204404

>>15204201

From Dust is pretty poor for a god game.

>>15204234

>>15204398

Grand strategies play differently to most 4Xes


250b3d No.15204415

>>15204404

>From Dust is pretty poor for a god game.

That depends on what you're after. The terrain stuff and water in that game was out of this world but the playing God stuff was pretty nonexistent other the that.


6647b3 No.15204441

>>15204201

>Black & White, Populous and From Dust

I said good.


46f72e No.15204448

>master of orion games (1 and 3

I've only played 1 personally, and while it's a good game with some pretty interesting mechanics, it lacks a lot of modern features and has some questionable design choices- the council, for one. It feels more like a game you'd play for an hour before work rather than a true 4x autismfest.

>Galactic civilisations

I'm not a fan of most civ games period, so this might be biased, but I found it particularly- not dumbed down- but dull. It has metaphorical rounded edges, if you get what I'm saying. You'll get the same general experience out of Civ 4.

>Alpha centauri

Yes, would recommend. Unlike 4, 5, 6 or Galactic Civilizations, it actually has scope and substance to it.

>Any other suggestions

Distant Worlds. Sins of a Solar Empire if you're more into the combat side of things.

As a side note, would especially recommend you stay away from Aurora 4x at least until it gets its C# update. Although the game superficially seems complicated, it's really, really not, and in some aspects it's far shallower than many other games in the genre.


ff7a88 No.15204449

>>15201854

XXXX is disgusting you fucking bogan cunt.


250b3d No.15204451

>>15204441

Those are the good God games.


6647b3 No.15204460

>>15204451

I am aware. Where the fuck is the god game where you actually feel like a god?


250b3d No.15204462

>>15204448

>it lacks a lot of modern features and has some questionable design choices- the council, for one. It feels more like a game you'd play for an hour before work rather than a true 4x autismfest.

I'd argue it's exactly what makes it a perfect game. It's not unnecessary bloated or complex for the sake of complexity. This write-up someone made before the MoO reboot was released really hit the nail on the head:

http://www.sullla.com/MOO/mooeditorial.html


250b3d No.15204463

>>15204460

Pick up writing or drawing, that's the closest you're going to get.


1b23e4 No.15204473

>>15204448

So Galactic civilizations is like the sid meier games in terms of mechanics? I thought they were very different and just shared a common name


46f72e No.15204496

>>15204473

Sorry, I didn't specify. I mean Galactic Civilizations 2 and 3. I haven't tried 1. 2 and 3 are essentially just knockoff civ games in space.


fb0a69 No.15204508

>>15201854

>Master of magic

>Heroes of might and magic III

Both are in the class of their own, like Master of Orion 2. Too bad Master of Magic graphics are extreamly outdated.


1b23e4 No.15204516

>>15204508

I don't really care how bad the graphics are as long as the core game is solid. You get used to shitty / old graphics quite quickly once you get into the game proper I find.


4ee981 No.15205587

>>15204052

Sweet, I'll have to go grab it then. I also remember trying to play it myself, and arming my ships with nothing but point defense guns because the numbers were higher than the regular cannons. I guess I didn't know to read the description, because I always lost battles




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