144e92 No.15165167
Over all it is an extremely well rounded game.
It's got all of the Batman family roster.
Solid roster of Villains
Excellent Level Design and Atmosphere.
Detective work.
Stealth.
Racing.
Bat-Tank fighting.
And a very fleshed out combat system.
>You can spam counter to win all fights.
Not true and has never been since the first game.
The game punishes you for doing that by denying you the combo flow and throws enemy attacks you cannot counter.
To say that is the depth of Arkham Knight's combat's is disingenuous.
The one flaw that can't be argued about this game is the way optimization was handled on the PC.
Stuffing Nvidia AND Denuvo into it and having the worst AAA launch in PC gaming. Wew
This is a valid point and it should be noted that Denuvo is still in it today.
However the performance issues have mainly been patched and the game runs fine today.
I feel like this game is given an unfair judgement by most people here.
People will say the games bad because it handled X boss fight badly, or the Stealth is too simple, compared to (insert stealth game).
I feel like even though this game tries to do a lot of things at once, it still executes the gameplay mechanics in a way that stays fun and challenging as you being to master them.
What do you think about this game?
1de270 No.15165227
>>15165167
>Solid roster of Villains
But no character for the majority of them
>Excellent Level Design and Atmosphere.
Debatable, day 1 it was damn near impossible to pass certain levels.
>Detective work.
same as arkham city
>Stealth.
same as arkham city
>Racing.
was not fun, it was tedious
>Bat-Tank fighting.
Even worse than the racing. Having to jump through several hoops just to destroy a car was annoying not enjoyable
>You can spam counter to win all fights.
you mean spam mouse clicks, and it'll get you at the very least halfway through the story
>Stuffing Nvidia AND Denuvo into it and having the worst AAA launch in PC gaming. Wew
>However the performance issues have mainly been patched and the game runs fine today.
You're several years too late, day 1 and in fact several weeks after it was unplayable mess. I wanted to give a chance to the studio after arkham origins but this was really just as bad.
13053c No.15165254
I just beat this game for the first time last week. I agree. People also said Arkham Origins was shit and I waited years to play it, but again when I did it was great. My only problems with both of those games are the DLC. I wouldn't have gotten both of these games except I found physical copies for cheap, and I still won't bother with the DLC. But what was there was even better than the first two. The first two did plenty of stuff great as well, like yeah I'd probably agree that Knight didn't have as good boss fights, but it was still very good overall. I think a lot of the people shitting on it are just PCfags butthurt about a bad port. But a bad port doesn't mean the game is bad. I'm not about to say Pac-Man is a bad game just because the Atari port is bad.
I also think a lot of the hate for this series comes from other games copying them. But again plenty of games have shit copies. Doesn't invalidate the ones that they are copying.
>>15165227
>Debatable, day 1 it was damn near impossible to pass certain levels.
Wait they changed level design in patches?
Also, I agree the car sections weren't the greatest, but I still enjoyed them. Fighting the Arkham Knight's tank with his backup guys around almost made me feel like I was playing Twisted Metal. A really bare bones version, but I mean it was okay for what it was.
>you mean spam mouse clicks,
Well stop playing with a control scheme that was clearly not the intended one. Might as well get mad that it's weird to play Crash Team Racing with a Guitar Hero controller. I've done it and it's playable, but don't act like it's the intended way to play.
Also, I'm pretty sure it won't get you far through the story if you are playing on Hard, which is obviously what you should be doing. Not that the combat is very hard, but there are shields and big guys and electric guys and guys with guns all over the place. Very rarely is it just standard small guys that you can just mash triangle on, and then you'll get a shit score and won't get EXP for upgrades for later fights.
fd25c9 No.15165285
Mainly because the batmobile took over the fucking game and everyone knew it would be shit, yet Rocksteady did it anyways. As with MGS4, be careful what you wish for in a sequel. Add to that a lot of open world padding and bringing the Joker back for the fourth time and it was a big disappointment.
913d80 No.15165294
Wasn't most of the problems with the Arkham games is that none of them were really as good as the first one?
13053c No.15165334
>>15165285
Bringing Joker back felt a bit dumb because they just have to jerk that character off so much over the entire series, but they did it in the best way possible. If I'm gonna complain about story stuff, my only complaint is that they acted like the Arkham Knight's identity was a surprise, when it's the most obvious twist I've ever seen in my life.
144e92 No.15165354
>>15165227
>Debatable, day 1 it was damn near impossible to pass certain levels.
Do you mean in the technical performance sense or level design sense?
>Detective work.
>same as arkham city
>Stealth.
>same as arkham city
It's also the same as Arkham Asylum but haters will still say Asylum is the better game.
Asylum is still good but I don't think it's definitively better than the other three.
It was a very revolutionary game for the super hero genre, so everyone see's it with nostalgia glasses on.
>I wanted to give a chance to the studio after arkham origins but this was really just as bad.
Origins was outsourced to Montreal Niggers not Rocksteady.
>>15165254
>I also think a lot of the hate for this series comes from other games copying them. But again plenty of games have shit copies. Doesn't invalidate the ones that they are copying.
Are You Ready for Arkham: Pizza Time? (Sold exclusively on the Play-Shitter 4.)
ad8e80 No.15165389
I'm so sick of Arkham combat
It's DMC/GoW clones all over again but with less fun or depth
f2816f No.15165417
Performance is still shit, hitches and random fps drops all over the place, even after fan tweaks.
fcfd8e No.15165428
>>15165389
The spectacle and novelty is gone, after three damn games and continued dumbing down, it overstayed it's fucking welcome.
1de270 No.15165452
>>15165254
>>15165354
i meant you couldn't progress to the next section because a bug made a door unlockable.
>Origins was outsourced to Montreal Niggers not Rocksteady.
I know, i wanted to support the original group, I wanted to be able to say: Fuck You Montreal you pieces of shit can't make a game to save your life now watch a master in action. But the bugs and denuvo made that impossible.
13053c No.15165472
>>15165452
Just don't play that version. That port was clearly an afterthought. Play the primary version.
733109 No.15165476
because this batman game is better
c8a3e9 No.15165521
>>15165167
Because the PC port was absolute dog shit, and one of the QAs was a Sjw faggot who is a shitty troll and a nobody in the fgc. Reminder that the game was so bad, WB had to give out refunds.
13053c No.15165525
>>15165521
That was a particular port, not the game. Again, that's like if someone makes a Pac-Man thread and people got butthurt and said the game was shit because they were idiots who only played the Atari version.
c8a3e9 No.15165530
>>15165525
Doesn't justify what happened with said port.
13053c No.15165533
>>15165530
No, but a bad port doesn't mean the game is bad. That's like saying Mortal Kombat isn't violent because the Super Nintendo version was censored.
913d80 No.15165536
>>15165533
>That's like saying Mortal Kombat isn't violent because the Super Nintendo version was censored.
You do remember that, despite that the Genesis version was inferior, it still sold more than the SNES version because it retained the blood.
13053c No.15165545
>>15165536
I never said anything about sales. Also obviously in that case, especially now, we'd be talking about the superior arcade version. But the point is, don't say a whole game is bad because you happened to get a bad port. Mention that a particular port is shit, sure, but to write off the entire game is ridiculous. That's like an N64fag saying every multiplat of that generation was shit since they were all gimped to fit on the cartridges.
54efb1 No.15165593
>>15165167
But it still is capeshit.
13053c No.15165605
>>15165593
Normalfags love capeshit, which might make you think it's only for normalfags, but once you reach peak autism, then you can really understand true depths of autism reached by no other genre. The Batman games don't get as deep as the comics, but they're as close as anything has come so far.
913d80 No.15165614
>>15165545
>But the point is, don't say a whole game is bad because you happened to get a bad port.
One problem with that mindset, what about games that performed terribly upon the original release, and then actually functioned properly when ported to newer systems years later? One good example of this is Bayonetta, where the 360 and PS3 versions often stuttered from loads of frame-rate drops, but then the Wii U, Switch, and PC versions performed splendidly at 1080p 60 FPS. Now, to give it credit, Bayonetta is a good game regardless. HOWEVER, doesn't mean that a lot of the criticisms the original product received wasn't due to the programmers leaving the game unoptimized, but do to the fact that "It's just a bad port".
858a47 No.15165624
>>15165167
They haven't played it and only watched Dunkey's video on Arkham City.
13053c No.15165626
>>15165614
In those cases you're not talking about a bad port. The original release is not a port, the later releases are. But even then, while the complaints would be more important, I'd still say it's worth mentioning if a later version actually fixed things. However, I'd argue that if the game is truly bad, a simple rerelease won't fix it. They can make a good game better but not make a bad game good. Fans maybe can with some top tier autism, but they never have and never will release a professional product like that. There's a guy online fixing Sonic '06, but it's not like Sega will ever do that. People try to claim that all the mods for Bethesda games make them good, but no, the mods are good (apparently), the games are still shit.
5d664c No.15165652
I love all of these games. The problem is they took a combat system that worked well for an agile but grounded nogunz character like Batman and turned every game into that instead of coming up with new ideas. The combat made fighting several goon style characters who use dirty tactics look fluid and it worked but they took a game like shadow of mordor who uses swords and turned it into Batman and it feels like shit. It works but it doesn't feel right fighting this way with a sword. Swords should feel slicier and less thwackier and Batman was the perfect character for it. Mordor should have played more like DMC.
5d664c No.15165660
>>15165294
I felt city was a vast improvement on asylum in just about every way. Better bosses for a start. Mr. Freeze was awesome, and the Catwoman sections were tight.
40464a No.15165674
>>15165660
Asylum had the atmosphere, though. City might have been an improvement mechanically, but Asylum feels more like Batman.
44e4dc No.15165691
>>15165167
>People will say the games bad because it handled X boss fight badly, or the Stealth is too simple, compared to (insert stealth game).
The game is bad because of the combat. It may punish you for spamming counter, but it's still doable. It's just boring as fuck.
62f1b6 No.15165707
I'm a huge Arkham games fan and even I disliked this. On top of what's already said, Batman is a retard in this game. There are times where you can tell that it's a trap, scarecrow gas etc but Batman can't
1cc97f No.15165710
Not only is it derivative of previous Arkham games, the Batmobile completely invalidates gliding and is used far too often to ever be fun or entertaining
aeddc1 No.15165755
Becauee it literally did not work on pc launch.
6f6b50 No.15165783
>>15165167
>>You can spam counter to win all fights.
>Not true and has never been since the first game.
??
13053c No.15165788
>>15165710
I'd complain about the opposite and say gliding invalidates the Batmobile. I only ever used the Batmobile when I needed to for a mission. The closest it came to being useful for transport was to do that Super Eject move so you could fly faster. But that was barely better than just using the upgraded grapnel gun.
13053c No.15165797
>>15165783
I don't know what it's like on Easy but on Hard you can't do it. Should be playing on Hard anyway.
Though I wish the games after the first let you turn off those counter symbols above the enemy heads. You can in New Game + but frankly I don't give enough of a shit to play the whole game again. It doesn't offer enough new stuff except being harder and not having Riddler Trophies to collect again. Once you get used to those counter symbols you rely on them, but I played the first one without them and never missed them.
5a76ed No.15165909
>>15165783
>This webm again
I can tell that is the beginning of City, so that counter spam only works for maybe 10 more minutes before they start throwing unblockable enemies at you.
ad8e80 No.15166044
>>15165909
Yeah, then you have to press buttons when prompted instead of whenever you like.
Fucking deep
>>15165614
The game is shoddily written, the combat the same, the puzzles and the driving absolute garbage and the only thing the game has for it is a more decent Open World and revamped graphics.
Even console folk complained that the game was an inferior experience to both Asylum and City despite all the new shinies.
It was never only about the shoddy PC port, the game is painfully average.
13053c No.15166065
>>15166044
>Yeah, then you have to press buttons when prompted instead of whenever you like.
Isn't that what a video game is? The question is just how obvious the prompts are. Certain arrangements of certain types of enemies prompt you to use certain strategies which are done by pressing buttons.
Batman's only big difference is that it forgoes complex combos (though there are still shorter combos) and emphasizes rhythm.
>the combat the same
I want basic things like that to be the same in a sequel. Also while /v/ complains about it, normalfags love the combat, so of course they wouldn't change it.
It's the same shit but more of it. It's one thing to pick a favorite, but to say one of these games (at least out of the open world ones) and the others are shit is to imply they aren't all the fucking same with only minor differences. That's obviously incorrect. But if you like one, it would make sense to want more that are the same type of thing but minor differences. That's what sequels are.
000000 No.15166084
>>15165167
Same reason why people don't like Mega Man 4 5 6 as much as 1 2 3. Its predictable gameplay mostly felt like just another Arkham City clone. City wasn't, technically speaking, a subpar game. It is just that okay quality rehashes are not as well received as the predecessors that set the standard.
ad8e80 No.15166099
>>15166065
>Isn't that what a video game is?
No you dumbfuck, not every game asks you for one specific prompt to do half the work for you.
0e4c48 No.15166122
>>15166099
If only you had some kind of toolbelt full of options.
178bd6 No.15166138
>>15165167
Garbage PC port. Company that did the port is linked to one of the infamous FIVE GUYS clique.
a29e2e No.15166188
>>15165167
Game was decent as a whole. The Batmobile missions are just complete shit, as previously mentioned, and drag down the whole experience. But what I really disliked about the game is that the true ending is locked behind 250+ Riddler trophies. It's an absolutely disgusting display of gameplay padding .
853774 No.15166206
>>15166138
Some of the WB Games people are hardcore leftists and trannies. That's the only way Iron Galaxy got the job, due to sharing SJW ideals.
It's likely this ginger tranny faggot "Ryan Moore" convinced WB to let Iron Galaxy to do the port, due to Maya Kramer's political standings.
d3e403 No.15166211
7c6644 No.15166458
>>15165167
>It's got all of the Batman family roster.
Isn't most of them paywalled?
>Solid roster of Villains
muh joker
>Excellent Level Design and Atmosphere.
Atmosphere was good, but I don't remember any levels being particularly good.
>Detective work.
>Stealth.
If I recall correctly, there wasn't very much of it. I certainly would like to see more.
>Racing.
>Bat-Tank fighting.
I liked both, but I can easily see them become tedium for people who don't like tonks or racing. Also weakspots trivialise all the enemies in tank fighting.
The game for me was quite enjoyable, but I've gotten it for cheap and don't feel the need to defend myself.
374ba9 No.15166611
>>15165167
Oh man, I just finished it. I was disappointed with the Arkham Episodes. Each was like a 5 minute mission. But the main game was great. Shame it didn't have the interesting boss fights like in Origins though. It almost made me want to read DC comics but figured they probably wouldn't compare to an interactive action game like this.
9efeba No.15166642
Click to win boring-ass shit that infested many other games.
f30fa2 No.15166650
Combat was fun the first couple of fights in the Arkham games, but quickly gets boring. Same with the stealth sections and open-world. All the Arkham games range from mediocre to poor. It's forgettable bullshit just like Assassin's Creed you get your girlfriend to play so she shuts up while you play 3DS.
644cce No.15166657
>>15165521
I also would like to remind you that Iron Galaxy employed (((Silverstring Media's))) Maya Kramer as their PR.
662f5d No.15166713
>people on here unironically defending this fucking game
fbcafa No.15166772
do people actually fall for this shit or did everybody forget the idea of bait
0556ef No.15168147
>>15165167
>hey this game isnt bad anymore
>anymore
you can patch the game, but you can't patch our memories of it, shill as you might.
also it isnt combat depth if you add 1 extra button on top of the usual ezmode spam. Its asscreed tier combat and not engaging. also those fucking enemy tank spam sections were complete fucking filler.
01fb0d No.15168450
>>15165783
This shit is the equivalent of saying Bayonetta is an easy game because you can play it safe and use only ⧍, ■, ⧍ instead of the more risky, higher damage combos.
13053c No.15168780
>>15166099
>No you dumbfuck, not every game asks you for one specific prompt to do half the work for you.
But that's not what happens. You have an arrangement of enemies and you have to try to dodge, counter, and attack in a few specific ways, with additional options for moves that can be useful but are not essential. So you try to attack in ways that won't put you in a situation where you will be attacked too much to be able to effectively dodge, and dodge, counter, and attack when given the opportunity. It's not one specific prompt. I seriously think the people saying this have only seen youtube videos of people playing the opening of one of these games on Easy mode. It's very disingenuous to imply otherwise.
>>15166188
Riddler trophies are fun though. Give you a good excuse to explore.
>>15166458
>Isn't most of them paywalled?
You play as Nightwing, Robin, Catwoman, and Azrael in the story. I know there's a crazy amount of DLC, which I haven't even looked at, and I assume it gives challenge missions for all of those characters, but they are in the story.
>muh joker
Joker simply being in it doesn't make it worse. Scarecrow is the main guy, with Joker featuring more as supporting cast than a real antagonist. Firefly, Man-Bat, Penguin, Two-Face, Riddler, Harley, Professor Pyg, Simon Stagg, Poison Ivy, Red Hood Deacon Blackfire, and probably one or two I'm forgetting. Not saying it's better than the others but it did fine.
>>15166611
There are plenty of comics that are better but also plenty that are worse. Obviously if you're in for the gameplay you won't get that in a comic.
374ba9 No.15168783
>>15168450
Oversimplification has always been a thing with retards and there's nothing you can do to help them.
8ad8f3 No.15168794
>>15165167
>Why is this game bad?
Tank Stealth. You never get to see Deadshot. You can't run around Gotham city with the other playable characters legit. Game is fucking trash.
c8611f No.15168808
>lackluster bosses
>joker is dead but he's still a central character
>jasons change of heart is out of nowhere
>robin is useless
>all the side characters have terribly short side content
>they still haven't fixed the giant arm problem in every single arkham game
7c6644 No.15168830
>>15168780
>Asylum: It's Joker!
>City: It's Ra's! Except Joker still gets quite some spotlight.
>Origins: It's Bla- I'm joking, it's Joker.
>Knight: It's the Scare- kidding, Joker again!
yes it fucking does make the plot worse
13053c No.15168840
>>15168830
It irked me in Origins because I wanted to actually see Black Mask, but I don't care about the other times. I don't mind a character just being around.
9c1a3a No.15168846
>>15165783
Are you the same faggot who posted about the guy playing Shadows of Mordor with the character fully upgraded and went to the starting area to record and complain about how he can counter kill everything. Shit man, by that logic then we can say that you can B grab kill anything in DMC4 with Nero.
Not here to defend Arkham Knight because I have a lot of problems with that game but pretending that's the most optimal or even fun way to play the game is retarded.
40464a No.15168873
>>15168808
>he doesn't have 30+ inch biceps
Never gonna make it, brah
f0b704 No.15168877
>>15165674
I disagree. The atmosoherr in city was spectacular. And it felt like a genuine story that could have happened in tie comics. It was big and ambitious for a Batman game and they actually pulled it off. A similar plotline happened in the comics when an earthquake hit Gotham and all of the villains took over and city felt like a video game version of that. I can't remember the name of that storyline because I stopped reading capeshit about 10 years ago, but city was amazing, man.
13053c No.15168887
>>15168877
It was No Man's Land, and Origins and Knight deliberately take cues from it for the simple reason that they need a reason for constant rioting and a lack of normal people going about their normal lives.
b5f71b No.15168890
>>15165167
IIRC its because it was a broken PC port. I liked the other games in the series, but don't even want to bother pirating this bloated 45 GB piece of shit on account that I'm not sure if it will even run on my toaster.
f0b704 No.15168895
>>15165783
This is so fucking stupid. Counters do less damage than just about any other attack except batarangs. Spamming them gets you nowhere fast and the true test in combo is getting your combo high enough to finish the fight quickly. This mechanic is what the game's journos talk about when they say the game "feels like Batman".
If you time every strike, and counter correctly, while dealing with special enemy types and using gadgets you absolutely fucking dismantle people and the character makes it look effortless. The combat was created just for Batman but they decided to put it in every single western action game ever for no fucking reason and it's retarded.
f0b704 No.15168907
>>15168887
It was one of the best storylines ever so they made the right decision.
4e9134 No.15168918
boss fights were boring, story was mediocre and generic, combat was shit. I really did like exploring and moving around though.
b5f71b No.15168919
>>15166138
lol Nick wins again!
I honeslty think Maya Kramer would be sexy if she dropped the leftist androgyny crap
b5f71b No.15168997
>>15168974
>being so shallow that you feel the need to virtue signal on a image board because some kid buys a pizza to trigger leftist
The fag is (you) kiddo
094924 No.15169044
>banned for some arbitrary reason
Oh fuck off Mark.
>>15168997
I don't really care either way, I just think it's a faggy thing to define your life by triggering leftists.
e5280e No.15169549
>>15169044
Rule 8 motherfucker.
21d6c9 No.15169569
>>15165521
>pointing out some nobody like the game was ruined by one QA
>not pointing out that there is an employee named Bill Wilson who worked on a Batman game
51d551 No.15169598
>>15169569
>some nobody like the game
Trying to read that first green text gives me headaches. Not wanting to be that guy but for some reason unknown to myself that is a painful combination of words. Its a migraine activator.
21d6c9 No.15169618
>>15169598
>pointing out some nobody, like the game was ruined by one QA
Better?
0f329b No.15169768
>>15165533
>No, but a bad port doesn't mean the game is bad.
Nigger, the game was practically unplayable on even high end machines. And to top it off, the six months it was pulled from market (when it supposed to be just one) was supposed to be for fixing it, and after being re-released it was still dogshit.
>>15165533
>That's like saying Mortal Kombat isn't violent because the Super Nintendo version was censored.
Violence is part of MK's aesthetic, not to mention the Genesis version played better than the SNES port.
>>15165545
>That's like an N64fag saying every multiplat of that generation was shit since they were all gimped to fit on the cartridges.
Except that's also true you fucking retard, damn near all N64 ports of PS1 games were either shit, or curiosities at best, like RE2.
>>>/reddit/
>>>/cuckchan/
>>>/somethingawful/
Peddle your retardation elsewhere.
>>15166065
>button prompt QTEs are what video games are
Never mind just kill yourself.
e7320f No.15171108
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>>15165674
Agreed especially about the Catwoman rewind. Somehow the studio forgot they were allowed to do a game with branching paths…
6c3af0 No.15171190
>>15165476
I remember that more than half of the stealth sections in that are heavily scripted.
>Enemies have guns
>Batarang something to scare enemies
>Enemies drop their guns
>Beat the shit out of them because they don't pick their guns back up
Still pretty fun tho
88c6f6 No.15171211
>>15168450
That's two buttons. That's one button more.
>>15168846
>Defending Shadows of Mordor, too
The guy played with his monitor off and still was succeeding at fights. And here's the commander fight just for you. :^)
bea04a No.15171216
>>15168147
>you can patch the game, but you can't patch our memories of it,
while i dont care for the game either way thats a pretty ridiculous way of thinking.
6ffb7f No.15171313
>>15165167
Battank alone is a reason to hate that game
6ffb7f No.15171366
>>15171108
>4:00
>haha batman hit a woman
implying that's wrong or something you shouldn't do. If you hate batman you are a dicksucking sjw
beb33c No.15171376
>>15171211
You do know this guy is a pedo, right?
abdcf2 No.15171398
>>15171211
This is false, the game makes it easy in the beginning because the only enemies it will throw at you are the grunts. Later there are unparriable attacks, stuns, enemies you can't just jump over and commanders who will one shot you. But you haven't played the game, you'd rather listen to some retard because you're a fucking bug and cannot think for yourself.
87b63f No.15171432
The Arkham games are fine, though Knight is probably the weakest of the four.
It's all the other action games trying to ape Arkham and it being shit that's the problem.
8f4301 No.15171650
>>15168450
>more risky, higher damage
Unless they really changed things from City to Knight, taking higher risks in Arkham just takes more time and doesn't grant a bigger reward
>>15168780
>Riddler trophies are fun
Fun as side content to do from time to time, actually having to go and do every single one of them to get a true ending is asinine
>>15171398
They sure made a show of those new mechanics with the final boss, right
834aec No.15171714
>>15165605
True.
They at least give a fuck to the lore
e58774 No.15171773
>>15168450
That would be true if the game had a proper style meter but its combo bar is trivial to maintain in comparison.
ed5006 No.15171794
>Excellent Level Design
Hahahah, no. Gotham feels like a shitty theme park.
519973 No.15171803
>>15171794
Gotham IS a shitty theme park
6573bc No.15171824
>>15165167
>Why do people give this game a bad rap?
because its casual cinematic trash that plays itself? if you like these kinds of games, go watch movies and stop playing video games altogether. youre screwing up the market and resources are going to go to movie games like this instead of actual good games.
even casuals like wab and dunkey shit on these games for being casual.
6ffb7f No.15171881
>>15171824
>Dunkey
See, there is your problem. You listen to these retards. That guy is just plain retarded and sucks at everything he does.
38907a No.15171890
>>15165167
>Bad rap
all video game raps are bad.
6573bc No.15171916
>>15171881
if a massive casual thinks a game is brain dead easy, their opinion on the matter holds water. it's like if DSP said a game was way too forgiving, or if mr "i cant equip in dark souls" said the game gave too much instruction.
>mario kart
really? you use his opinion on a shitty party game to discount his opinion? step it up.
a52bcf No.15171920
>>15165167
I played it for few hours.
>It's got all of the Batman family roster
What's the point if it's the same fucking gameplay? You dodge/parry/enemy-specific-move, you attack, repeat. Ad infinitum.
>Solid roster of Villains
It's still all about Luke Skywalker being edgelord.
>Excellent Level Design and Atmosphere.
Dunno about level design, but atmosphere is a no brainer, you just get fucking bamham and make it 3D, there you go, you have your 10/10 neo-noir atmosphere with no effort.
>Detective work.
It's fucking shit. It's linear following glowing objects, it's not fucking detective. I don't think any video game ever made anything good for detective work. Maybe some obscure point-and-click, but nothing mainstream.
>Stealth.
I hate stealth.
>Racing.
I hate racing.
>Bat-Tank fighting.
It would be ok, if you had any sort of variety. Like the choice on what weapons to even equip on your mech. Even MGS5 did much better job on this.
>And a very fleshed out combat system
Yeah well, it's asscreed but good. It's still the same combat we have ind Asylum. It got stale after 3 long ass games.
tl;dr it's the city all over again with new things being annoying, bad or unfinished/unfleshed. For the second time.
There is no point in this game. It does nothing. As origins did nothing.
It's another City's re-release.
a52bcf No.15171924
>>15171920
> For the third time
Obviously
45d0af No.15171929
>>15165167
Poor port, meme batmobile.
a52bcf No.15171936
>>15171929
Fuck batmobile.
bea04a No.15171955
>>15171936
but if the bat mobile lost a wheel the joker would get away
519973 No.15171962
>>15171955
Joker dead brah
45d0af No.15171970
9f0887 No.15172001
The only good thing to ever come out of the batman IP was baneposting
6ffb7f No.15172004
>>15171916
>you use his opinion on a shitty party game to discount his opinion
Yes. I have pirated it too after everyone called it unfair and I easily beat the game at 150cc with no practice at all. And my last mario kart was the 64 version. I was not up to date on this at all. If you suck this badly at mario karty you eat dicks and your opinion doesn't matter.
That said, let me explain why his video is stupid. The scene you see is within the first 10 minutes of the game. At that point they are basically teaching you the game. That fight he is doing is a tutorial. Later on you get enemies with shields, enemies with firearms, enemies with electro sticks and other shit that can't be counter attacked. Also, those counter attacks don't kill enemies unless you play on easy. These webm's are literally fake news.
6573bc No.15172032
>>15172004
>150cc
his complaint was about the multiplayer. who plays single player on a party game for children?
>The scene you see is within the first 10 minutes of the game…
oh… youre a casual batman fan and dunkey, and by extension; i hurt your shit taste in games.
so against the most common enemy you can just spam triangle to win without even having to "aim" the analog stick. then later in the game you follow button prompts to fight enemies, wow! so deep! so complex! good thing they made it so you dont even have to face the enemy or it might be too much to handle! dynasty warriors 2 has a more complex combat system than batman.
you are a bigger casual than dunkey. anon.
2ff9e7 No.15172135
>>15165167
>Why do people give this SERIES a bad rap?
Who cares. Why do you care?
>Solid roster of Villains
Mostly agree
>Excellent Level Design and Atmosphere.
I'll give you the atmosphere but the level design isn't anything to write home about
>Detective work.
<Use the special wallhack vision and we'll hold your hand through the entire thing as Batman explains what is going on
Might as well not even be in the game, honestly.
>Stealth.
The worst kind of stealth, it only exists to try and make Batman seem more intimidating to his foes. That's fine, its fitting in a thematic sense, but the actual stealth gameplay consists of very basic actions, such as hiding in one spot until you witness an enemy's vulnerable state, then taking advantage of that and picking them off one by one. Hell, you don't even have to do this most of the time, you can just use Batman's tools to get out of situations with strong enemies. In Arkham City they started to try and make it more challenging, they gave guards special tools that could deal with Batman's arsenal. They would do things to try and make it hard for the player, such as destroy the gargoyles that Batman could perch on. Fine, but Batman is still overpowered as fuck, and the player can get out of this shit by flying around the room, using a smoke bomb, using the grappling hook to disarm an enemy, etc. Make no mistake, this is not a stealth game. It has asscreed tier stealth, which is garbage.
>Racing.
>Bat-Tank fighting
Feature bloat. Nobody gives a shit about this nonsense, they threw it in to justify yet another sequel, but they're both an unwelcome addition. Fuck off with this shit, at least the Riddler puzzles were interesting brain teasers.
>And a very fleshed out combat system.
This is really the crux of the issue, isn't it? The combat is certainly fun, but it's also very shallow. You might argue that because eventually the game will begin to introduce special enemies that can't simply be parried into the fray that the combat system is deep on a technical level, but that is misguided nonsense. Ultimately, the combat is about parrying, and using Batman's mobility to evade damage when he is unable to parry. Every "special enemy" - the armored thugs, the female ninjas, the large hulking motherfuckers, etc - can be defeating by using the appropriate parry. The player has a number of different button combinations that execute different attacks, but they're ultimately all parries. Rocksteady thinks they can challenge you by introducing a variety of enemies into the fray that constantly try to interrupt your "flow", but that shit is mostly more annoying than anything else. On the higher difficulties, combat devolves into a combination of button mashing and occasionally parrying to simply stay alive. When you're not smashing the attack button to try and get the damage sponge enemies to die, you're either smashing the dodge so you can move around unscathed, or you're repeatedly parrying various foes to try and make them vulnerable so you can then button mash them to death. Hell, half the time your special parry moves can be interrupted by some faggot who decided to attack you at the same time as another enemy that requires a different response, so unless you want to move around forever while looking for an opportunity to deal some damage, you're going to inevitably get hit.
I'm not saying that it can't be fun, but it's not "deep" or "complex". It's rock, paper, scissors combat.
The games are mostly fine, but let's not circklejerk about how great they are, cause they're not that great. As far as "capeshit" goes, they're some of the better titles out there.
6ffb7f No.15172230
>>15172032
>his complaint was about the multiplayer. who plays single player on a party game for children?
You can't play online using a pirated copy.
>so against the most common enemy you can just spam triangle to win without even having to "aim" the analog stick.
no, because you don't face waves of them later on.
>good thing they made it so you dont even have to face the enemy or it might be too much to handle!
you actually do, your attacks don't automatically target them. Also you can't cancle animations which means you get beat up if a second one decides to fight you.
Play it for yourself you stupid nigger.
834aec No.15172250
>>15171824
>play tutorial fight
>lol this is too easy
Maybe it's you who should be should be wary of who you listen to
31b4f8 No.15172266
>>15165167
bland combat, a mess of unoptimization and taking the nvdia sheckles hardcore. the first game had the charm of batman being limited on one location and feels more like he has to use his wits to outplay a trap. every game after is just kinda bland in comparison. also it's the batman story nobody wanted in a video game and everyone groaned at when they saw which it was.
>The game punishes you for doing that by denying you the combo flow and throws enemy attacks you cannot counter.
then you have to just roll out of the way! thank you magic out button! and ohno! my useless combo meter!
the first game has alot of charm and style and holds up pretty well. the rest feel bland, boring and lacking.
6573bc No.15172285
>>15172230
>can't play online
so why bother? why bother even if you could, tbh
>no, because you dont
so i cant, because theyre not there later on? except they are? so i absolutely can?
>you actually do
no you dont, batman automatically faces nearest enemy.
>you cant cancel animations
unless youre blocking/countering using those awesome button prompts. or dodging.
>play my shitty casual game before you judge!
no, im good. i played asylum and dropped it because its trash
>>15172250
>spamming 1 button without using even analog stick to aim wins "tutorial" fight.
great game!
cad092 No.15172315
>>15172285
>tutorial part
>unless i press the button they say to press so I lear what the fuck I need that button for I can’t go forward
Fucking broken game mechanic
you faggots will never use a reasonable complain for bamham combat that isn’t memetube video
44e4dc No.15172338
>>15172250
The entire game is like that though. Batman won't work in vidya form because he has no cool capeshit gimmick to him. It's just "beat this guy to a pulp" style combat that's not even executed correctly like god hand or DMC.
6573bc No.15172355
>>15172315
do you seriously only play games that have button promts? how did you even find this website? how old are you?
067feb No.15172357
>>15165254
>Well stop playing with a control scheme that was clearly not the intended one.
Stop releasing games on a platform and then expecting your user to have additional peripherals to play the game. I bet you think Dark Souls had an acceptable PC port.
a2e751 No.15172360
I'm sure the game is well and good.
I'll tell you why I didnt get it.
Because the fucking joker was in it.
6573bc No.15172374
>>15172357
>Dark Souls had an acceptable PC port
atleast that had its reasons. it was not a multiplat, it was an exclusive for proprietary hardware. then pc owners begged for a port, the dev team didnt want to. eventually they cave and release it.
since pc has no official controller and the game was designed from the ground up for a specific controller, its no wonder the game turned out the way it was.
batman was a multiplat from the beginning. the devs have no excuse.
067feb No.15172394
>>15172374
The United States has no official language but if you don't speak English, you're fucked, unless you speak Spanish, and even then no one will interact with you outside of the government and maybe your little immigrant neighborhood unless you live in Texas, California or Florida. Saying it's okay to release a game on PC without an acceptable kb+m control scheme is almost like saying it's okay to live in the U.S. without knowing English. At best you're just creating the precedent that PC games don't need good kb+m controls, which is stupid and does not help anyone.
I actually own the Dark Souls PC port (got it mostly for the DLC) and I have numerous peripherals that I use with my PC, but I stand by my point. I wouldn't expect someone to buy peripherals to be able to enjoy playing a game unless it was specifically advertised because no one wants to enjoy the surprise of discovering you needed to buy more shit.
6573bc No.15172431
>>15172394
>The United States has no official language
wrong
>Saying it's okay to release a game on PC without an acceptable kb+m control scheme
they did what the beggars wanted. they released the game. their responsibility to have working controls. what youre suggesting is akin to a bum begging for money in the US, then me giving him foreign money because its what i had in my pocket, and him responding "wtf i have to convert this! unacceptable!"
go convert it yourself. you begged for it.
6ffb7f No.15172522
>>15172285
>so why bother?
Because a lot of people said that even the campaign is luck based, and I wanted to prove it wrong. I already knew it would be super easy when I downloaded it.
>except they are?
They are not. You are always facing groups of enemies and you never face a group like that again.
>no you dont, batman automatically faces nearest enemy.
No it doesn't. Only certain moves like knife dodges are automatic. In Origin it's even less automatic.
>play my shitty casual game before you judge!
>unless youre blocking/countering using those awesome button prompts
>no, im good
Half, of the shit you say is simply wrong and you are only posting this kind of shit because you are anonymous here. If your face was attached to your posts you would not post bullshit like this. The shit you say is so stupid, even your mother would hate you if she read the things you said.
78c79e No.15172537
>>15165167
Capeshit. To be fair Batman is alright but goddammit when will the capeshit end?
The cartoon was good.
447468 No.15172547
>>15165167
Just finished all the normal content myself (miss me with that riddler shit) and my biggest issues with the game was it was just more of the same shit, but less focused and bloated because of it.
6573bc No.15172556
>>15172522
mario kart is heavily influenced by luck. are you retarded? its been this way since n64. do you think its a coincidence that 8th place gets better items than first?
>You are always facing groups of enemies
what does that have to do with those enemies being able to be beaten by spamming 1 button and not even using the analog stick to turn towards them? just means you kill the "special" enemy/enemies in the group using whatever gay scripted method to disarm them then spam 1 button to kill the fodder.
not that any of that matters since the stealth and abilites are so OP and broken
>No it doesn't
watch the first video in the original post that triggered you. you dont have to face the enemy, batman will automatically punch towards the enemy. aiming is optional.
>you are only posting this kind of shit because you are anonymous here
> If your face was attached to your posts you would not post bullshit like this
rotten redditor, is that you?
6ffb7f No.15172578
>>15172556
>mario kart is heavily influenced by luck
Some luck yes, but if you constantly end up on last place there is something wrong with you. Also the chances of getting defensive items are pretty okay, and since you can pick up two items chances are good that you won't get hit by a red shell. The reason why Dunkey and DSP suck so badly at Mario Kart is because they play it with their brains turned off. They throw away all items as soon as they get them, they don't look up shortcuts and they randomly pick up vehicles not knowing which one of them is best. Some games are easier than others, but there are always winners and losers and if you are always on the losing side it's your fault.
>what does that have to do with those enemies being able to be beaten by spamming 1 button
you are not beating them, you are temporarily disabling them, but while you temporarily disable them others can still shoot you, throw stuff at you, charge at you with a shield, hit you with a knife/sword or attack you with a shock stick.
>watch the first video in the original post that triggered you
>you dont have to face the enemy, batman will automatically punch towards the enemy
and there is your problem, you have nothing but that misleading video.
6573bc No.15172608
>>15172578
>always on the losing side
if youre playing mario kart seriously, youre always on the losing side anon.
>>15172578
>that misleading video.
i played the 1st game and noticed right away. dont blame me if you have the brain of a nigger and managed to play through an entire game without noticing that you had a mandatory "auto aim" the entire time.
watch the entire worthabuy video, its his main complaint about the game and gives tons of examples. he's a massive casual and noticed it, why didnt you?
did reddit rot your brain little fella?
44e4dc No.15172634
>>15172556
>rotten redditor
lol
d7fd98 No.15172669
>>15172634
I fucking hate normalfags so much.
6573bc No.15172675
>>15172634
whats the deal with anonymity? its not anon and its not ymity!
was such a great thread.
44e4dc No.15172712
>>15172675
Yeah I know, wish he was back tbh
6573bc No.15172723
>>15172712
he might be. this statement right here in >>15172522 is highly suspicious.
b8e542 No.15172748
>>15172634
<What's the big deal about anonymity?
>posts what makes it good
6ffb7f No.15172756
>>15172723
>is highly suspicious.
only retards benefit from this anonymity.
6573bc No.15172788
>>15172756
>only retards benefit from this anonymity.
6f6b50 No.15172792
>>15168846
>Shit man, by that logic then we can say that you can B grab kill anything in DMC4 with Nero.
When you do that in DMC4, Nero does his attack animation for a few seconds then gets attacked and interrupted by another monster.
I never played Shadows of Mordor though.
6ffb7f No.15172809
>>15172792
>attack animation for a few seconds then gets attacked and interrupted by another monster
same as in batman games
2eaf01 No.15172834
>>15172522
Don't know about the cunt your replied to but I look like the big ass troll from Resident Evil 4 if I posted my face people would turn to stone. Safety first faggot. Upside to this is I ain't a top knot wearing homosexual like you.
6ffb7f No.15172856
>>15172834
You complaining about ID's too? If everyone here had a permanent ID half of the community would block each other.
067feb No.15172951
>>15172431
>you begged for it
And the devs took the time to make the product, they didn't have to respond to begging. Your analogy is appropriate, but giving a beggar foreign money is dumb and pointless. If devs announce they're going to make a product, I expect it to be held to a certain bare minimum of standard. Similarly free games are not exempt from criticism simply because they are free. There is little point in doing something if you are going to do it half assed.
250f80 No.15172974
This game is still, undoubtedly one of the most beautiful looking games of the 8th generation.
b5f71b No.15173033
>>15172004
>Later on, you get enemies with shields, firearms, electro sticks and other shit that can't be counter-attacked.
this is actually true but I still like to pick on Batman because developers need to raise the bar not lower it. The earlier games were a bit more challenging relatively speaking but the formula has a tendency to still be rather casual compared to your typical Cuhrazy Hideki Kamiya game. If Batman mixed up the enemy verity more the formal could be fun but it became far too predictable and formulaic by the third installment.
78c79e No.15173247
>>15172634
In the spirit of fairness anonymous posting doesn't matter if you are a normalfag.
I however am prone to casually drop my rape fantasies for KeA and that could seriously affect my employment prospects if it shows up in a Google search. Being a lolicon is a bit of a stigma in society.
924a73 No.15173691
Bat-Tank blows but story is great as usual
00b881 No.15173773
>>15165294
The major problem was that they relied heavily on the out-dated Nolan-Batman, which in itself is a relic from mid-00's.
Give me a proper Batman-game instead. Not this superhero-bullshit.
48afdb No.15183416
>>15165227
> I wanted to give a chance to the studio after arkham origins but this was really just as bad.
>just as bad
I thought you meant they redeemed themselves with Origins because it was so good or something. What was wrong with Origins? It was the best game in the series.
48afdb No.15183439
>>15171211
>obligatory sweaty autist screaming at a video game
Like clockwork.
13053c No.15183595
>>15173773
These games are clearly far more based on the DCAU than they are Nolan. They got the voices from the DCAU and didn't Paul Dini write some of them?
>>15173033
The rhythm aspects feel more satisfying to pull off than the combos in most beat em ups. Yeah a lot of times it's easier because your combos aren't as complex, but this is replaced with the rhythm. Different doesn't mean bad. Also, it's a lie to imply you can just hit counter. You could try to do most of the game without the unlockable moves, by getting really good at dodging (because counters don't work against a lot of enemies), but that goes for practically any game. And even then there are enemies that require you to disable them in special ways and you can't just punch them regular, even if you find the right opening.
>>15172394
>game made for PC with kb/m comes to consoles and the controls without a kb/m suck
lol console peasants PC master race!
>game made for consoles with controllers comes to PC and the controls without a controller suck
(autistic screeching)
>>15172355
He said it's a tutorial section. How did you even find any website when you can't read?
>>15169768
>>button prompt QTEs are what video games are
>Never mind just kill yourself.
That isn't what was said, idiot. If you get mad that you have to recognize when to press buttons and then press the appropriate button, then you don't like video games. When I see an enemy in practically any video game getting ready to punch me, I try to block or dodge or hit him first. It's the same here.
>Except that's also true you fucking retard, damn near all N64 ports of PS1 games were either shit, or curiosities at best, like RE2.
Oh so you just can't read. The point being made was that saying a whole game is shit just because a port is is dumb. Then the example of shit N64 ports of good games is brought up, and you say "but the ports were shit!" You fucking illiterate mongoloid.
>Violence is part of MK's aesthetic, not to mention the Genesis version played better than the SNES port.
Again.
>list bad port of good game to prove that bad port doesn't mean the game itself is bad
>"But the port is bad!" (as if that wasn't my fucking point)
>Nigger, the game was practically unplayable on even high end machines.
I said it was a bad port. Don't get it on that platform then. The game is still good, but you got a shitty port. I guess Pac-Man is shit because of the Atari version.
5c5bde No.15183705
The terrible PC release was a big part of it. A lot of people complain about the batmobile but I really don't mind it. Since the batmobile was supposed to be the big innovation of this entry and most people didn't like it, what was left were the mechanics that already existed on previous Arkham games. So on the gameplay aspect this was more of the same.
The only thing I dislike about Arkham Knight is the story, it's stupid. You don't even need to be a hardcore Batman fan to figure out the plot on the first 30 minutes of gameplay, you'll already know the identity of the Arkham Knight and have a good guess about what will happen towards the end.
Also, fuck the Joker. You already had this retard on the previous three entries of the franchise. Back in Arkham Origins he was already overstaying his welcome by removing the spotlight that was supposed to be focused on the Black Mask and other lesser known villains. Then, comes Arkham Knight with "you killed him but now Joker is part of your blood and he will take over your body unless you find a cure, lol". Did you wanted a Batman game that finally focused on another villain? Well fuck you for wanting that. Rocksteady assumes that you're a mouthbreather and the only thing you know about Batman is the Dark Knight movie and Heath Ledger's joker so if a Batman game doesn't have anything like that it will be a flop.
8f4301 No.15187882
>>15183595
>press the appropiate button
If your game's combat can be summed up to that then the combat isn't very good
45d0af No.15190786
588e4c No.15196192
>>15165254
>I also think a lot of the hate for this series comes from other games copying them
arkham's combat itself is a copy, assassin's creed did it a year prior. also the origins dlc is okay, you can clearly tell what a cut n paste of city it is since wb montreal isn't exactly known for cutting edge shit or anything, and they wanted a petty excuse to bring back joker because what's batman without joker these days?
>>15165605
>The Batman games don't get as deep as the comics
that's because it's meant to be btas the game, why else do you think they got the voice actors? also,
>comics
>depth
>>15165710
honestly the only thing the batmobile is good for is for running niggers over
48afdb No.15197743
>>15165167
So you got me to torrent thsi and try it. This is actually fucking awful, what the hell? I've loved every other Arkham game, but this one is just so fucking bad. Is this the same voice actor? All of the voices in this game make me feel like I'm playing an early 2000's licensed game on the PS2. Also, everything feels so fucking slow. I don't remember gliding around being this slow. The batmobile is annoying as hell, too. This just makes me want to install Origins again.
1073a8 No.15208831
>>15187882
You can sum up any game like that if you're abstract enough.
a57f5e No.15220345
>>15183416
>What was wrong with Origins? It was the best game in the series.
Did… we play the same game?
On top of the constant inconsistencies in the story, there was PLENTY wrong with that game. Fuck even the title is wrong, there's no origin story ANYWHERE in this fucking game except for maybe Joker, and he's shoehorned so fucking hard in the plot.
7e729d No.15221812
>>15220345
Timings are tighter, which makes combat harder compared to city.
f59a50 No.15233234
13053c No.15233290
>>15220345
Who cares about story? This is a video game.
All four of these games are pretty much the same thing, except for the first one not being open world. If you like one of them, to dislike another is disingenuous since they're all the same shit with different levels. Which is fine, that's what I want in video game sequels. If I like the first one then give me more of it.