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File: 73f8f4f31ffec24⋯.png (68.71 KB, 220x300, 11:15, 220px-Crash_Bandicoot.png)

8d30a7 No.15134186

It's depressing how the industry is so fucked to the point /v/ is flooded with shitty soyboy "game" threads, with less people enjoying their time playing and instead looking at how horribly vidya is dying.

Instead of that nonsense, I'd like to talk about the following games;

Crash N. Sane Trilogy

(It's a remaster, but it may have demand for better crash games in the same, or similar par of quality)

Monster Hunter World

(A bit dumbed down, but far from being as bad as it can possibly be)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

(The improved switch port. The WiiU did not sell well because WiiU tanked)

Dark Souls

(Whole series)

None of these games are easy casual babby shit (I've not played MHW or DKCTF, though, as I see it, these titles have the much desired difficulty of yesteryear)

So, do you hope that there will be a demand for more satisfying, old school titles with real gameplay and real difficulty that will sell well in the future? I personally believe so.

I, at least, expect some sort of sequel to Crash based on how well N. Sane sold and a brand new DKC game to eventually release, knowing how well the Switch port is doing. I also have some kind of hope for DMC5 and Megaman 11 as well.

Don't know what pic I should use so I just used a pic of Crash as N. Sane sold really well, and the games are as accurate gameplay wise as they were before, with a few new levels, and turn out pretty fucking hard once you try to plat all the relics and do the secret/death routes.

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6ff078 No.15134221

>>15134186

ignoring the "muh shill" faggots who are probably from cuckchan, I do think that single player games have been on the rise recently, especially Japanese single player games. Like obviously you have the shitty cinematic games like Soy of War and that god awful Spider-Man game from Insomniac, but I've been seeing more games like Cuphead, Nioh, Kingdom Come and Nier Automata do good numbers as well. I've also been seeing a rise in Falcom games, which is always a good thing.

The one thing I do worry about is how publishers interpret this information, like right now you have EA and Sony pushing for less gameplay focused games rather than fun games. Looking at the numbers now, even games like Ruiner have been selling about 200k which is great for an indie game.


2788e3 No.15134279

>>15134221

> right now you have EA and Sony pushing for less gameplay focused games rather than fun games.

It's a mixed bag, the actual game play in some of Sony's western titles really leaves a lot to be desired, but there is something to be said about the current environment in the western industry. With some developers doubling down, some outright removing it (Activision), the environment for single player games is actually looking much more positive than in the past generation. The problem is quality mostly.

I think we're gonna see an interesting thing, while Activision scrambles to maintain cod's relevance by adding a battle royale mode, losing some SP only customers inevitably, there will likely be more and more studios pushing more SP games out there. I welcome it, whether they fail or succeed as it does mean a trend is unfolding in the industry.


8d30a7 No.15134303

>>15134221

I forgot Cuphead as well. That was also a hard game that sold really well. I did not play Nier because >denuvo but i heard good things about it. How hard is the game?


2788e3 No.15134318

>>15134303

>How hard is the game?

after the opening stage not very. It's a pretty easy game once you start adding chips.


15de65 No.15134323

>>15134221

>Automata

>Hard

It cannot be more obvious this thread is only approved by weak-willed faggots who want to feel validated for not failing at certain games.


8d30a7 No.15134347

>>15134324

Why is my OP bullshit because someone else in the thread listed a game that i did not list in said OP? Or are you going to claim any of those games that i did list (plus Cuphead) are easy handholding games? I did not talk about Automata at all.


237d1a No.15134354

File: 433020a72d9a9d9⋯.gif (1.55 MB, 500x480, 25:24, raggyscared.gif)

>Vidya is dying

>but let's talk about games that came out years before

>the return of anything

>with a remaster, rather than a new game

>and a game that was casualized to fuck

>when good releases are seldom and not the status quo

The OP is such a fucking eyesore to read.


6ff078 No.15134359

>>15134347

Like I said, ignore these fags.

>>15134323

>Implying I was talking about hard games and not just fun games in general.


6ff078 No.15134364

>>15134354

Yeah, the formatting sucks. Is OP okay with the mods fixing it?


237d1a No.15134372

>>15134364

How about I fix it? If he's going to have pajeet tier stoner spelling, I'll take care of it.

Give me 5 minutes to make a pastebin


6ff078 No.15134373

>>15134279

I agree, especially with THQNordic on the rise, and more and more people getting fed up with the SJW/Twitter shit. I hope to see western vidya on the rebound sometime in the next few years.


6ff078 No.15134374

>>15134372

Alright, but I don't wanna edit it without OP's permission.


6ff078 No.15134382

>>15134303

It's difficult, but fair. Usually when you fuck up, you gotta own it all.


8d30a7 No.15134414

>>15134364

Yes i dont mind that at all. I am shit with formating but i just wanted a debate and such about this. I mostly just lurk here (as well as on /pol/) i very rarely make a post here.


6ff078 No.15134427

>>15134414

It's alright, I got you.


8d30a7 No.15134431

>>15134414

Also while the formating sucks (i am bad with that) i dont see a grammar mistake and only 1 spelling mistake (some day should be someday in 1 reward) Anything is better than a template thread right?


8d30a7 No.15134436

>>15134431

*word. I am tired


6ff078 No.15134438

>>15134431

I just wanna make it more readable, you did nothing wrong.


237d1a No.15134439

>>15134431

Alright. Sent the mods a pastebin for your new OP.


6ff078 No.15134463


237d1a No.15134467

>>15134463

Thanks!


747c8b No.15134479

>>15134323

Sage is not a downvote


0aabdd No.15134613

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>>15134303

Some of those games, especially Cuphead, sold primarily because they were able to game the system to get free advertisement from salty journalists who are bad at fucking video games. Others are practically a given because of their prior notoriety as remade/rebooted classics giving them access to a wider group.

Also, Crash sold well due to nostalgia, but it was a bad game: it was originally designed back in the day when nobody knew what the fuck they were doing with 3D games, so developers were able to get away with murder, so to speak. The games were terribly designed, which meant that the challenge of beating them was ultimately satisfying for those that genuinely stuck to it. When they were remade, they were met with mixed reviews, and the debate was ignited as to whether or not Crash was actually a good game. Nearly pixel-perfect jumps, unforgiving terrain and enemy placement, punishing trial-and-error gameplay, secrets that made little to no sense, and gimmicks upon gimmicks upon gimmicks.

That said, Crash is still going to live forever. I honestly hope for a good sequel, but it would undoubtedly be fucked up by Naughty Dog or Sony for one of 6 gorrillion reasons. Sometimes, it's just better to let dead things stay dead. The industry is overwhelmingly suffering from writer's block and creative bankruptcy, and all of these (((greedy faggots))) can't let shit go if they think it will net them a few quick bucks; half of the writing is done for them, and even if they have to eviscerate the character and turn him inside out to shit out narrative diarrhea for a game, they'll do it because it's fucking cheap and quick.

>>15134221

>>15134279

Most of these big (((publishers))) aren't going to listen to anybody outside their circle. Certainly not their customers. They don't know what it means to make a quality product for people to enjoy, and the shitty compensation developers that stick around get is implicitly boosted by the fact that they have a media platform to push their political views on. To them, it's a win-win: pay as little as possible to useful idiots that push the message they want to spread. Garbage products, developed by garbage studios, funded by garbage publishers, pushed on fucking mindless sheep.

As long as useful idiots keep making these faggots money, they'll keep doing the same predatory bullshit. Someone with a position of authority needs to step up and genuinely turn people off to the idea of preordering games, buying DLC, or purchasing lootboxes and in-game content; it won't happen unless something drastic happens, such as a major economic depression, but when it does, every single one of these publishing corporations collapses.


5d5789 No.15134646

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is another game that lets you go full autism in the post game and the challenge mode has an extremely high skill ceiling.

I think people are turning back toward single player games because of all the bullshit with multiplayer games. Microtransactions, hacking, cheating, pay to win, constant nagging for money, worthless items they want you to grind for so you look cool to other people online. Not to mention most online multiplayer games just end up being the same shit every year, except for when a new fad comes along (MOBA, battle royale, etc) and we get a flood of clones.

I can definitely see single player games making a strong come back, mainly because multiplayer games have been raped and exploited to the point that they're not special any more.

Also, look at those games, they're all pretty different, difficult, and they are polished experiences. Honestly, I could see the push for "narrative cinematic experiences" by major studios backfiring. They'll create demand for something other than annual, slighly modified shooting and sports games, but they won't run to the cinematic experiences. They'll run to these difficult, single player games with hardly any story.


793618 No.15134651

File: 8cec9a2f4bc40f5⋯.png (110.03 KB, 200x200, 1:1, 1443758053962.png)

>>15134354

>with a remaster, rather than a new game

People bitched at Cuphead's release. Hell, they're already bitching at Megaman 11 and drawing fucking MN9 parallels to it, and it didn't even come out yet.

You're all niggers.


811185 No.15134716

>>15134221

>EA and Sony pushing for less gameplay focused games rather than fun games

At least walking simulators like Gone Home seem more and more irrelevant with everyone that isn't a game journo every passing year. I'd honestly take more TLoU clones than that bullshit.


901d1b No.15134801

>>15134716

>I'd honestly take more TLoU clones than that bullshit

Like walking sims, they're just another head on the monster that has been festering in video games. Their budgets are through the roof and force them to be extremely bland experiences so that they can maximize their audience and make a profit. I really hope that a new surge of AA developers helps to show them that the budget doesn't need to be huge to make a game that is both profitable and well-received.


06f7c4 No.15134816

>>15134613

OP fucking BTFO.


000000 No.15134884

>>15134186

Crash, Tropical Freeze and Dark Souls are meme games pushed by journos/child rapists to make them look like good games.

Monster Hunter World will have denuvo, which makes it automatically shit.

There was a Chrono Trigger thread made to discuss a genuinely good single player game, that can be played by anyone without giving money to the current piece of shit companies.

>>15134613

This.

Discussion of good games is a good thing. And all the good games are in the past. Discussion of current games is shilling for greedy and marxist corporations.


9fd955 No.15134890

The Switch is the savior of singleplayer games with its indie library.


8d30a7 No.15134910

>>15134186

The edit is amazing, i got zero complaints about that

>>15134613

Once you learn slide jumps most jumps are not a huge problem. And while i agree that the secrets dont make sense, the game do give you some big hints about them. You make Crash sound like IWBTG, it is not even close (with the very rare expection) 99% of jumps gives you quiet a bit of room for error.

icks.

That said, Crash is still going to live forever. I honestly hope for a good sequel, but it would undoubtedly be fucked up by Naughty Dog or Sony for one of 6 gorrillion reasons. Sometimes, it's just better to let dead things stay dead. The industry is overwhelmingly suffering from writer's block and creative bankruptcy, and all of these (((greedy faggots))) can't let shit go if they think it will net them a few quick bucks; half of the writing is done for them, and even if they have to eviscerate the character and turn him inside out to shit out narrative diarrhea for a game, they'll do it because it's fucking cheap and quick.

icks.

>That said, Crash is still going to live forever. I honestly hope for a good sequel, but it would undoubtedly be fucked up by Naughty Dog or Sony for one of 6 gorrillion reasons. Sometimes, it's just better to let dead things stay dead. The industry is overwhelmingly suffering from writer's block and creative bankruptcy, and all of these (((greedy faggots))) can't let shit go if they think it will net them a few quick bucks; half of the writing is done for them, and even if they have to eviscerate the character and turn him inside out to shit out narrative diarrhea for a game, they'll do it because it's fucking cheap and quick.

Vicarious Visions have showed before 2 times before that they cant make a great orginal Crash game with the GBA games. I was surprised how true to the PSX games the GBA games were and i liked them nearly as much as the PSX games. A remaster with CTR with online as well as Wrath of Cortex without the shitty loading time would be great. I think there are many people that want a remaster of CTR with online. Crash Nitro Kart was good even if it lacked orginality, i still remember liking the level design and the game itself. Maybe because i just want CTR2 and that is what i got so i was happy? I have however not played that game in ages so maybe i am wrong?


b5dbd4 No.15134919

>>15134884

Spitting fucking truth. Liking of modern shit as listed in OP is shilling, no matter what. This is a belief that chans should have as it prevents all poz.

>>15134890

Kill yourself shill.

>>15134613

Can't wait to see the cuckchanners ITT damage control this fuckmassive wall of truth. Nothing will ever get better, this is fucking something that we have been confirming for years like holy shit what the fuck is wrong with you fags.


06f7c4 No.15134923

>>15134613

Hey anon I think you broke the shillbots >>15134910


8d30a7 No.15134934

>>15134884

Chrono Trigger is a great game but it suffers for some classic JRPG problems like you only spam the same skills all the time. The double/triple tech system makes that even worse than normal JRPGs. I did like that you could make your own team at endgame and each char had their pro and con. Personally for what i remember i had Crono, Marle (forgot name but she could cast haste and had great heals) and i think Magus as he could cast shell (for what i remember, it is over 5 years since i last played it)


8d30a7 No.15134956

>>15134934

When i was younger i played a shitload of JRPGs on my handheld but i kinda got bored of them. I think even old JRPGs are single player theme park MMORPGs and some games like FF12 just make it even more clear. Tank and spank might be a generic MMORPG saying, but that is basically most JRPG boss fights. A typical turn 1 JRPG fight look at this

>Healer cast def Protect on party

>Mage use the strongest spell the boss is weak to

>Warrior/knight use the strongest skill the boss is weak to

>Turn 2 everyone does the same as turn 1 expect for the healer that uses heal all on party

>That is basically Dragon Quest/FF boss fights with some expections.


26f6db No.15134957

File: af563c07493f469⋯.png (476.4 KB, 464x650, 232:325, that face.png)

>>15134884

go back to getting genocided online by gooks, huezillian


853e26 No.15134994

>>15134957

>this fucking image again

I wish I had a kike edit, though


5c9c28 No.15135967

>>15134221

I don't see how that Spideman game is bad. It looks really impressive and bursting with care to combat and movement. This is what we should be doing with all this fancy new technology, making physics more fun to fuck with than ever. So far I've only seen a few shitty QTEs and not what you can actually do in the game.

My roommate never buys comicbook games and he's been excited for it all year as a video game.


4c866d No.15136033

>>15134994

Not that hard. Just shop a yarmulke on, yellow the teath, and restore the curls.


65548c No.15136187

File: 7de42f11768a24b⋯.png (476.72 KB, 464x650, 232:325, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15136033

like this?


000000 No.15136626

>>15134934

Nothing that someone can't get used to. The plot and the side quests make up for any repetition.

My party always contains Magus, as he enters late in the game, and i put him permanently so i can play as him more time. But the unbeatable team is Crono, Ayla and Robo. Their individual and combined techs are strong and useful against all bosses and enemies, by the end of the game.

>>15134957

Still butthurt, impotent soyboy?

>>15135967

It is being made by leftists, which makes it automatically shit.


26f6db No.15136693

File: 7420ee764abd2e2⋯.png (433.39 KB, 465x858, 155:286, cd818e6adbc593172413bd9e21….png)

>>15136626

>being a BR huenigger

lol


d99a8d No.15137605

>>15134186

>CRASH Bandicoot

I am still sad that Craptivision got the rights to it, not that nu-naughty dog and (((neil kikemann))) putting his filthy jewish hands on it would be any better today.


34574c No.15137620

>>15134186

Crash Warped is ultracasul shit for super babies.


c3f568 No.15137769

>>15134186

>Crash N. Sane Trilogy

>It's a remaster

IT'S A REMAKE! RE-MAKE! RE-DONE FROM THE GROUND UP, LEARN THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE!


1f6a5c No.15138588

>>15134613

>Crash

>bad

>because it has hard jumps (it doesn't)

>unforgiving terrain (straight path obstacle courses are "terrain")

>unforgiving enemy placement (if you fuck up you die. This is bad)

>punishing trial-and-error gameplay (I have shit reaction times and I'm shit at a game that little kids could beat 20 years ago. Bad game)

>secrets that made little to no sense (there are two super secret levels in the third game that are actually super secret. The rest were all easily figured out by children without the internet 20 years ago)

>gimmicks (only the third game has significant sections with alternate gameplay, the rest is platforming with two or three riding levels per game, not unlike Donkey Kong Country or something)

Crash has always been great. You're just shit at games. And they're not even hard games now that the first game lets you save any time and lets you collect a gem even if you died. The only real difficulty comes from the Relics, which should be hard since they're extra challenges. That's when pixel perfect jumps and unforgiving placement come in. Don't worry, only the third game requires them for the real ending, and you don't have to get the Gold or Platinum Relics for that.

Also, Naughty Dog and Sony have nothing do do with Crash and haven't in 20 years. Even worse, Activision owns them. But at least the remakes didn't have Nu-Naughty Dog's SJW shit, so that's a good sign.

>>15137620

Did you beat those Dev Times yet?


a5368f No.15138602

>>15137620

the same could be said of all classic games, now go back to your hardcore games for hardcore gamers, sweetie


15aa45 No.15138616

>>15134186

>It's depressing how the industry is so fucked to the point /v/ is flooded with shitty soyboy "game" threads, with less people enjoying their time playing and instead looking at how horribly vidya is dying.

Are you making a point that it's recent? It's been like this for years. Your complaint is waaaaaaay overdue.

>None of these games are easy casual babby shit

Prepare for horde of fat faggot elitist fucks that call all those games casual, if they haven't already. I haven't read the rest of the thread.


c8b971 No.15145947

>>15134186

Does Naughty Dog own Crash or is it Sony?


ed6e16 No.15145988

>>15145947

Activision

https://www.please use archive.is/activision-states-it-still-owns-the-crash-bandicoot-ip-266399.phtml

Article is old but N. Sane Trilogy was made in partnership with Activision so it's fair to say they still own it.


ed6e16 No.15145994

>>15145988

This is much newer, actually.

https://archive.fo/zaZXX


c8b971 No.15146037

File: 3effe113b2c02d0⋯.jpg (24.81 KB, 403x403, 1:1, keyboard not found.jpg)

>>15145988

>>15145994

>Activision

I don't know how to feel about this.


ed6e16 No.15146046

File: 570531e384f1cfe⋯.jpg (4.64 KB, 302x167, 302:167, images.jpg)

>>15146037

Naughty Dog would've been worse.


2b127c No.15146060

File: 49499eff68dff84⋯.jpg (11.05 KB, 407x286, 37:26, 1427595177101.jpg)

>>15134613

>The games were terribly designed, which meant that the challenge of beating them was ultimately satisfying for those that genuinely stuck to it. When they were remade, they were met with mixed reviews, and the debate was ignited as to whether or not Crash was actually a good game. Nearly pixel-perfect jumps, unforgiving terrain and enemy placement, punishing trial-and-error gameplay, secrets that made little to no sense, and gimmicks upon gimmicks upon gimmicks.

Why is nobody bullying you itt for being a faggot failure at video games?




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