Would 3D Fallout looked and ran better if Todd Howard used Unreal engine 3/4?

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Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 08:45:29 747b33 No.15123408

Would 3D Fallout looked and ran better if Todd Howard used Unreal engine 3/4?

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 08:48:16 69c9f5 No.15123415

Yeah pretty much. They make more money sticking to their own engine though, no need to pay Epic licensing fees.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 08:51:43 ffad79 No.15123423

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If the Bethesda were properly trained to use the engine, yeah. The quality of the game itself might not change all that much I imagine. As the other anon said though it'd be cheaper to use their own engine.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 08:53:40 813f66 No.15123429

Anything would be better than their engine, even Goldsrc

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 08:56:30 747b33 No.15123438

>>15123429

>even Goldsrc

Call of duty still using a modified idtech 3. That highly possible.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 08:57:29 ed53e6 No.15123442

Unreal is pretty limited when it comes to anything not-shooting, though, and it's incredibly easy to break.

Think Bethesda bugs but not graphical or physics related.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 08:58:01 e086d1 No.15123444

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An idiot blames his tools. 3D Fallout looks bad and is badly optimised because Bethesda are bad developers, not because the engine is shit. Way of the Samurai 3 came out the same year as Fallout 3 on the same engine and looks and runs better and has a better branching storyline with more endings.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 09:08:36 3ccead No.15123465

>>15123442

>Unreal is pretty limited when it comes to anything not-shooting

Dunno, the next Assetto Corsa, a racing game is going to run on Unreal. A Hat in Time is a platformer and also runs on Unreal.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 09:11:29 048dbd No.15123469

>>15123442

>Unreal is pretty limited when it comes to anything not-shooting

t. someone who hasn't used unreal more than an hour

it has additional support for shooty stuff, but it's completely capable of doing anything else

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 09:53:41 ed53e6 No.15123553

>>15123444

>same engine

I suppose you're talking about Gamebryo, which is a 3D renderer. The actual engine they use is essentially their own, held together by twine and chewing gum at this point.

>>15123465

>>15123469

>racing game

>platformer

You have me convinced.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 10:45:29 e086d1 No.15123643

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>>15123553

>Gamebryo is a 3D renderer

That's news to me, they certainly sell themselves as a game engine. Also Unreal is used for fighting games as well these days, Street Fighter, Tekken and the Dragonball game all use UE4.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 10:50:22 a65fc4 No.15123654

>>15123643

Well Catherine was also Gamebyro, as was Bully, Zoo Tycoon 2, Sid Meier's pirates and Civilization IV.

The problem isn't gamebyro, it's Bethesda.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 11:04:12 e086d1 No.15123682

>>15123654

That's what I've been saying. DBFZ, Snake Pass and the Spyro remake are all on Unreal, but so is fucking PUBG and Hello Neighbour, and those are ugly, buggy pieces of shit. Only an idiot blames his tools.

Anonymous 07/08/18 (Sun) 11:17:30 cc1842 No.15123715

>>15123643

>>15123553

Gamebryo is more of an engine like Renderware, which is actually more something like a toolkit. That's why they're able to get away with saying they don't use Gamebryo anymore, even though the shit they use is still similar to Morrowind.

I don't know the exact ways it works but with Renderware for example EA has had exclusivity to it since 2005 or so but Rockstar was still able to use an existing but modified GTA Vice City engine for GTA LCS and VCS.

Anonymous 07/10/18 (Tue) 12:32:16 605105 No.15133205

everything looks & runs better un unreal - that doesn't mean it "is" better

shit will always be shit, no matter how much they polish it

Anonymous 07/10/18 (Tue) 12:55:48 a6a308 No.15133252

It’s not a matter of the engine as other companies have made competent games with Gamebryo. It’s a matter of Bethesda being incompetent with it. I doubt they’d do much better with a different engine.

Anonymous 07/10/18 (Tue) 12:58:17 5256f5 No.15133263

>>15123408

Looking or playing better isn't the point. There need to be better fucking writers.

Anonymous 07/10/18 (Tue) 13:06:05 f8ff0f No.15133284

Gamebyro can handle a shit ton of ragdoll physics and objects. Also, gamebyro isn't really a complete engine, it's just a tool to combine other engines together. What Bethesda is using isn't gamebyro, but something that can be described as frankenstein's monster.

Anonymous 07/10/18 (Tue) 13:32:12 961d13 No.15133337

They say an only a fool blames his tools

But at this point, using Gamebryo is akin to using a rotting wooden mallet to drive metal stakes into the ground. Its rotten and filled with termites, but its fine, you sprayed it with silver spraypaint and screwed bits of metal onto it in places.

While everyone is driving those stakes into the grown with a metal sledgehammer, you've been using the same mallet for over 2 decades. Please move on.

Anonymous 07/10/18 (Tue) 20:12:05 f9f84c No.15134566

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>>15123423

>If the Bethesda were properly trained to use the engine, yeah.

Bethesda aren't even properly trained to use their own engine, though. Gamebryo actually isn't bad, it's just that Todd's Team don't know how to really use it and keep making custom patches to get it to do what they want. I got into modding a few years back, and the "official" CK/GECK documentation is absolutely horrible. At first I thought that Bethesda just didn't really give enough of a shit to provide proper documentation for free mods, but the more I reflect on it, the more I'm convinced that even they don't know how to fucking use it.

Also, CK was prone to throwing up errors on startup - even without custom plugins loaded, as well as randomly crashing. Even their own devtools are buggy unstable messes.

Anonymous 07/12/18 (Thu) 08:34:18 fb7dd2 No.15141853

>>15133337 wew

Bethesda have to be the laziest fucking devs in the industry, they put zero effort and their games sells.