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Characters are repeatedly shocked at things they already know. In the post-game, the “””real””” ending, Nemesia tells everyone that the war started because of the desertification. They all take turns acting shocked. They’ve all consciously acknowledged that half the game ago. At the very beginning, Stocke is outright told by Heiss. Both of his party remembers acknowledge that the densification is the only reason they’re at war. Yet they pull this shit so they can throw in shitty OC character into the plot’s real ending and she can tell everyone exactly what to do just by knowing everything.

The OC “Nemesia” is, by far, the worst part of this game. She can teleport. She has a magic time ship that floats on the ocean. She knows just about everything there is to know about everything, and only chooses to let the other characters know at the stupidest times. It's not clear how she knows these things, either. Nobody asks. Before sending you to another timeline, she tells you a vague bit of information about it, indicating she knows more but is choosing not to show it. One example being her telling you about a "certain soldier" causing trouble. Just tell us who it is. The worst part is that the characters become completely braindead (or mind controlled) in her presence, and will never ask a single question about anything. They do not care that she is actively hiding information, and never think to ask. She also has a "teacher" or "historian" shtick. That means she relates everything to homework or grades. A veteran soldier risks his life in another timeline? A+! Gold star! Good job, kiddo! To make it worse, she also has a habit of dumping a whole bunch of pointless narrative on you at completely random times.

Atlas butchered the ending to make it revolve around their OC. The original ending, which was bittersweet, is now completely replaced by what the npcs call the "proper" ending. They could not make it worse if they tried. This is what you get at the very climax, right before Stocke willingly walks to his death.

>DING

>Nemesia has a new quest for you!

>DING

>The special grinding dungeon has a message for you!

>You can now buy more items!

>DING

>Demi-god thing: Would you like to save your game, just in case?

I just now realized she's named after a goddamn flower

The new writers actively forget the allure of RH decisions. You go to the past to try and change the future. Decisions have some sense behind him. Here, you decide whether to stay together or split up. If you stay together, the world ends and you get scolded. The original game had decisions like “Do we wait for the spy?” or “Do we trust Hugo?” Half of the bad ends are related to Hugo.

They also forgot the entire point of the game. One of the OC quests has a bad end where the desertification is stopped, but Cyrus starts looting and raiding other towns because they get too powerful. What the fuck are they thinking? That’s a good end! They stopped the desertification! They repeatedly forget that past the first chapter, Stocke’s goal isn’t “Allistar is the good country, help them win” it’s “stop the desertification”. Even fucking Rosche deserts his country to save the world.

Part of the new postgame requires you to side with Hugo. Even though, in the main game, every time you’ve done that has ended in him killing everyone. You’ve been warned, repeated, not to trust Hugo. Every time you do, everyone dies. Except if you give him a special item (immediately after he tries to kill you (again)) he’ll suddenly have a change of heart and leave everyone alone. It’s complete nonsense.

Just visually, the game has degraded. There’s an annoying sprite warping/distortion effect that wasn’t in the original. Characters now bunch together for some reason, making them walk in giant clumps instead of nearby. It was clearly made for a smaller screen. Things that were meant to take up the entire screen, like crowds, graves, groups of soldiers, now only take up a tiny amount of it. So instead of a whole screen of soldiers you now have a rectangle of 12. They managed to fuck a few things up, too, with sprites randomly being on top of the screen instead of behind walls.

I can't express how much Nemesia and her self-insert historian schtick pisses me off. Returning an artifact? It's like returning books! Finish a quest? You get an A+! An A+ answer! Anything anything remotely good happens it's A+. Goddamn. You also run into her repeatedly in the quests. In one, an artifact is taking on her form. In another, you meet a younger version of her in what I think is meant to be a shocking revelation.

Good changes:

Party members get more moves early on, making it more interesting

Enemies don’t respawn every time a cutscene triggers (this is only noticeable in the endgame where one triggers every time you kill a cube)

Can drag blocks diagonally

Some typos fixed

A few extra teleport points to cut down on backtracking

Stocke can move in 8 directions

Recolored some NPCs

Other gameplay changes I forgot (but most of them were good)

Questionable changes:

Enemies drop less gold (probably because donut steel hands it out like candy)

Certain types of equipment no longer have a defense or speed penalty

Magic nerfed severely

Selective voice acting

Deadly mode (virtually unplayable without the experience DLC)

Why:

Every time you start the game (or get a game over) a bunch of characters read out "Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology"

They went to the effort of giving Eruca long hair, and pasting it onto all her sprites

I didn't realize that all of these short DLC quests were sold individually since I pirated this dumpster fire, but a good goy with some extra money can buy a visit to the spa.

>>15102351

As an added bonus, this completely restores your health and mana for free, which goes along well with the free money and exp DLCs :^)

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't really interested in this game though it didn't have to do with the artstyle. I enjoyed the original from what I've played of it but never finished it. The new art style isn't bad but it doesn't fit the setting and tone like the original did.

Also this whole OC things reminds how much people hated the female MC they added into Persona 3 (or was it 4?) in one of the remakes. There must be one writer at ATLUS who loves making a Mary Sue to self insert into.

>>15102370

You're thinking of Marie from Persona 4 Golden. She's a piece of work.

>>15102455

That, right there, is fucking atrocious. I can just imagine the kind of fujoshit that writes this tripe, but who in their right mind would green light garbage like this?

>>15102466

Autistic rants about games are great. You should have seen all the Fire Emblem Awakening rants before Fates came out.

The re-translation deserves more attention. I'm not sure exactly what to call it, they just butcher some of the original dialog and leave the rest in. Some changes are subtle, but still manage to remove any personality from the NPCs.

“Oh… It’s you, Stocke. What can I do ya for?” -> “Oh… It’s you, Stocke. What can I do for ya?”

“Yeah! The li'l tykes’ll be sad if you quit, Bro.” -> “Yeah! The li'l kiddos’ll be sad if you quit, Bro.”

“Oi! I’m the Desert Crow, and I’ll be takin’ your treasure!” -> “I’m one of the Desert Crows, and I’ll be takin’ your treasure!”

Other changes are equally pointless, where they add dialog (possibly to inflate the word count).

“Then we’ll need to steal a few uniforms first.” Adds “Without being caught, of course.” As if anyone was confused, there.

“A false report? What should it be about?” -> “What do you want this false report to be about?”

Sometimes they make the lines shorter but I can’t ever explain why. It’s like they’re compelled to molest anything they come in contact with. They cannot leave it alone, they just have to fuck with it.

“Stocke… I’m begging you.” -> “Stocke… Please”

More questionable changes:

Support skills, where allies can attack or use moves at random while in reserve. In practice all it does is make you wait while they use a status effect on an immune enemy, kill something that was already going to die, or kill something you were trying to keep alive. They’re also completely random in nature, which is out of place in a game like this. There’s no misses, and crits are frequent with only moderate damage.

Selectively voiced lines feel out of place. The main characters talk, fully voiced, to NPCs who only grunt in response which is a bit funny. I disabled voices somewhere in the second chapter, but it also disables enemy noises like the clucking of fire chickens.

Having more portraits should be good, but now it’s jarring how they just swap out a tiny square texture where their face is and call it a new portrait. They also completely use the wrong emotion sometimes, which is probably leftover from the changing the Jap version’s dialog completely and forgetting to change the face. The artist is capable of good portraits, which makes it worse. Sometimes the voiced lines are slightly different than the transcribed lines this part might be autism

>The entire original ending of the game is now the “bad end”

nice to see persona 4 has already been mentioned but I will mention it again because even the base game is like that

>>15102521

The remake has Nemesia help everyone destroy the "singularity" so there's no sacrifice. And for some reason everyone suddenly trusts Heist.

>>15102309

This game has been in my backlog for years, now i can safely add a note saying that i shouldn't touch the remake with a ten foot pole.

Those changes centered around a shitty mary sue OC shoehorned into the plot though, maybe they hired that one japanese autist who managed to shit up oreshika tainted bloodlines and pokemon omega ruby/alpha sapphire with his waifu OCs? Is this nemesia girl also needlessly edgy and likes to act misteriously?

>>15102554

>likes to act misteriously

Not sure if you could call it that, she sits on her fucking boat all day waiting for people she can lecture while simultaneously withholding any actual information. If the characters actually could react to her, they'd recognize she's an absolute sociopath.

>I'm teleportation you to a "place". You'll run into some "things". Good luck!

>get attacked immediately

>these are the vengeful ghosts of everyone you've killed! haha!

In regards to the dialogue changes, I can't help but wonder if maybe, for whatever asinine reason, they decided to retranslate the original JP script entirely from scratch without even looking at the old translation? That's the only logical explanation I can think of for there being so many minute differences that make virtually no difference and would have been a tremendous pain in the ass to make.

The few enemies that existed were really well done. What they could have done with their budget was alleviate the horrible overuse of palette swaps, but they might have had to cut back on voice acting or the most important part of the game, Nemesia.

>fat fucking bear

>comes in six colors

>have to remember which colors can instantly party wipe you

This looks like a nitpick, but one of the hellspider's attacks just has it levitate straight into the air. This is much less obvious in the original, because you can't see the entire spider and the screen pans during the battle. In the remaster, the screen doesn't move at all because you can see the entire battlefield. There's countless issues caused by the fact that they don't design around the larger screen space when they're not just making it worse. Sometimes they move the npcs CLOSER together, too, which makes absolutely no sense. It has to be a glitch that re-positioned everything that they never bothered to address.

>>15102309

This is a disingenuous critique and you deliberately left out the context of the quests and stories you hate.

Get over it you weird tool lol. It's a great game and an even better remake. I always knew /v/ had shit taste but Jesus this is a new low.

>>15103344

The goym can also buy chibi portraits for the low, low price of $3. The main characters only have one static sprite, with no emotions, and they didn't bother to draw this shit for all the portraits. So it will jarringly switch between the new animu style and static chibi images. The kind of idiot that buys DLC portraits won't care about this, but it's another sign of how much of a horrendous cash grab this is that filling in Chibi drawings is too much work for them.

>2018 and STILL no remaster, no port, no sequel, no nothing about Radiata Stories since 2005

Help me, I got autism.

>>15122364

>search for someone who hates this shitty remaster as much as I do

>find something promising

>it's just a botnet rehosting my thread