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1. Open Deviant Art and disable age filter

2. Look up The Hedgehog

3. Gongratumulations, you're sonic fan now.

I don't think you need to bother with modern sonic games after 06, it's just temple run with fancier graphics.

>>15097391

>EULA

>enforcable in a court of law

they can't verify who agreed to it and you rarely have the ability to agree to it prior to point of purchase. Null and void.

I wish the damn things would just go back to when they were there to protect intellectual property instead of arbitrarily limit users

>>15097340

Looks good to me.

>>15097421

>>enforcable in a court of law

their lawyers will beat your poorfag ass public defender into the ground in a day.

>>15097430

Public defenders are for a criminal defense. He would be a plaintiff in a civil suit, so not applicable.

>>15097435

pave the way then, start by example. Go file a suit right now.

>>15097340

How about the 8-bit games? Mania even have a stage gimmick lifted from them. (The bubble from Hydrocity)

>>15097461

I haven't really sat down and played the 8 bit ones beside sonic 1, which was okay.

>playing any sonic outside of 1-3&K on original hardware

>>15097340

>skip 06

tell him to wait for the Generations 06 project to finish

>>15097473

>Actually, the DX version fixed a lot of bugs and problems that the Dreamcast version had, IIRC.

You recall wrong, because the DX version actually adds bugs and glitches to the game.

>Play the edgelord shitfest with a terrible morality system and bad controls

how bout no

>Handheld games

The only ones I'd say are worth playing are Advance 1 and Rush 1. The others are either okay or straight up bad if we're not talking about the 8 bit triliogy

>Riders

>Not All Stars Racing

okay.

>the storybook duo

I'd say only play Black Knight if you're 'really' interested.

>>15097534

>re: black knight

it did have a crazy ending

>>15097534

>with a terrible morality system and bad controls

<Best implementation of a morality system to-date, right along side Alpha Protocol

<Controls ripped straight from Heroes

Are you bullshitting me?

>exposing Sonic to Gen Z tranny freaks

Stop it.

>>15097546

<Best implementation of a morality system to-date

1. Your choices don't matter because there is a last story segment.

2. Most of the missions just straight up suck

3. Even when you do the shit your side wants, their forces will still attack you (You help Black Doom, but the black creatures still attack you)

4. Some of the plot lines for specific routes are straight up retarded.

<Controls ripped straight from Heroes

If you play them back to back, you'll notice a difference. It's hard to explain, so do it yourself. I think shadow is a bit clunkier.

>>15097340

>playing a platformer, let alone any game, on a touch device

Jeez dude, right off the bat this is fucking terrible

>>15097573

>1. Your choices don't matter because there is a last story segment.

You mean like how your "choices" don't matter in Bioshock, Silent Hill, Knights of the Old Republic, Parasite Eve, and just about any game gives the player "choices" on how they wish to complete the title and then go on to have a sequel with a "canon" ending?

>2. Most of the missions just straight up suck

How exactly do they "suck", and how would you have made them different?

>3. Even when you do the shit your side wants, their forces will still attack you (You help Black Doom, but the black creatures still attack you)

That annoyed me to, but I think that's a version specific problem (Like how one cutscene is different on the PS2, and a second player cannot join for the story levels on the Xbox version)

>4. Some of the plot lines for specific routes are straight up retarded.

Such as (Provide examples)?

>If you play them back to back, you'll notice a difference. It's hard to explain, so do it yourself. I think shadow is a bit clunkier.

I found the controls to be better in Shadow, but the physics were better in Heroes.

>>15097594

With the right set up and a good controller, it's actually pretty comfortable

>>15097623

>You mean like how your "choices" don't matter in Bioshock, Silent Hill, Knights of the Old Republic, Parasite Eve, and just about any game gives the player "choices" on how they wish to complete the title and then go on to have a sequel with a "canon" ending?

Don't you see this as a problem? Why do they make sequels for one ending instead of the rest?

<How exactly do they "suck",

>What is "Defeat X amount of enemies

>What is the ark levels

>What is "collect X amount of stupid items"

>What is Captial City

I would make all of these differences by changing the game's level structure itself so that all you have to do is get to the end of the stage, like the other sonic games. And don't even try to tell me this can't work, because expert mode exists.

As for the plotlines, depending on which scenario you pick, plot elements are dropped and never seen again. You never encounter the GUN commander in the Neutral pathway, so that cutscene is meaningless if the neutral story is the only thing you play. The Shadow robot thing is retarded as fuck. What's also retarded is that, on a pure hero pathway, you can turn evil at the very last stage (which is another issue with the morality system) just to be a dick to Sonic. Everything else is just bland, and it doesn't help that the main plotline sucks.

>>15097669

>Don't you see this as a problem? Why do they make sequels for one ending instead of the rest?

Money, and following trends. Or just trying something different.

>>What is "Defeat X amount of enemies

>>What is "collect X amount of stupid items"

<Both of these are the same shit you did as Team Chaotix in Heroes, and the treasure hunter levels and bonus missions in both Adventure titles

>I would make all of these differences by changing the game's level structure itself so that all you have to do is get to the end of the stage, like the other sonic games. And don't even try to tell me this can't work, because expert mode exists.

But, you can gun it for the end. That's always an option in every level.

>As for the plotlines, depending on which scenario you pick, plot elements are dropped and never seen again. You never encounter the GUN commander in the Neutral pathway, so that cutscene is meaningless if the neutral story is the only thing you play. The Shadow robot thing is retarded as fuck. What's also retarded is that, on a pure hero pathway, you can turn evil at the very last stage (which is another issue with the morality system) just to be a dick to Sonic. Everything else is just bland, and it doesn't help that the main plotline sucks.

So, you didn't like the fact that the game evolved to suit the path that you followed and gave you completely different scenarios and outcomes, rather than of making your choices seem negligible in the long run and following a set path and story and making you wonder why a morality system exists in the game in the first place if so little is changed?

>Adventure

>terrible

buggy yes but the Sonic stages are fun

>>15097964

nevermind I'm retarded

>>15097391

>muh EULA

EULAs and Terms of Service can include whatever shit they want. That doesn't make the terms valid or enforceable. Why the fuck do you think contracts have severability clauses and disclaim responsibility and warranties "to the maximum extent permitted by the law"?

Reminder that there is nothing wrong with playing sonic 06 emulated with xenia to remove the god awful slowdowns and speeding up the loading times for an acceptable sonic adventure 3 without the chao garden experience

>sonic

Trannies get out.

>>15097534

>>Riders

>>Not All Stars Racing

>okay.

There is no reason to not play both. Well maybe not the shitty Kinect Riders but at least play the first one, it's not like it's a huge investment.

Otherwise OP your guide is alright but you better make him watch LPs of Sonic 06. He needs to know. Everyone needs to know. Also add Sonic Battle and Sonic Rush. Didn't play the other GBA games so I can't speak for them. Then make him play Sonic Shuffle. Then make him play Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.

>>15097964

the Amy Rose stages were pretty fun too. I wouldn't mind a full game with that gameplay formula

>>15097340

>Watch Shadow the Hedgehog's cutscenes

Why should Shadow get any less attention? It's just as good as the other games that should be played.

>>15098012

>without the chao garden experience

but that was the best part

Reminder, Shadow the Hedgehog isn't taking itself seriously and neither should you.

Sonic games always being bad is a 2007 big bang theory "Geek Culture" meme from people that only started getting into games/tech because of bazinga

>>15097391

EULAs cannot and have never actually had the legality to override state and federal law.

Also don't play Mania on PC

>play SA2B

I cannot for the life of me understand why people still cling to this piece of shit for any reason besides nostalgia. It's not a good video game.

Sonic Advance is pretty much a must play

>>15098499 (checked)

This. From SA1 up until Colors the only good games were the handheld games.

>b-but the sonic stages are good

They're not, and even if they were, they're buried under the mountains of shit that were the other characters' levels.

>muh chao garden

>muh bat tat jiggle

Just post the bat tats and get done with this miserable thread. Or, better yet, go back to >>>/fast/

>>15097340

For SA2B, he has to get the physics mod and the emerald radar mod. The former swaps character physics including the ones in SA1, so you can have Tails with Gamma's physics which makes him a lot faster and less clunky than in the original. While the latter greatly makes the emerald hunting stages less of a slog and more exploration friendly by letting you choose any emerald piece to find first instead of going through a specific order.

Also, tell him to play Unleashed after Generations, because the former is more challenging than the latter and more atmospheric and in some cases, barring the Werehog stages, it feels like a step forward(hubs with atmosphere and world building, more challenging daytime stages etc.).

Also don't forget the handheld series, Namely the Advance trilogy, Rush games and Battle.

Finally, I heard that the Forces modding scene is alive at least. Already there are mods that fix the physics and some mechanics. I'm kinda interested in the game but only to play around with it? It's on sale now, so would the game feel worth paying even with the mods?

>>15098902

I tried the physics mod for Tails and being able to run extremely fast and jump over obstacles felt like cheating, fun to try but definitely not how you should play the game.

>>15097717

<Both of these are the same shit you did as Team Chaotix in Heroes, and the treasure hunter levels and bonus missions in both Adventure titles

Exactly, that's the problem.

>But, you can gun it for the end. That's always an option in every level.

You're missing the point. Sure, you can go for the end, but not only does the neutral story suck, but you're not getting the full experience.

>So, you didn't like the fact that the game evolved to suit the path that you followed and gave you completely different scenarios and outcomes, rather than of making your choices seem negligible in the long run and following a set path and story and making you wonder why a morality system exists in the game in the first place if so little is changed?

Once again, the morality system is pointless if there's a canon ending. Also, dropping important plot elements isn't exactly "evolved."

>>15098451

>>15098468

>liking Shadow the Hedgehog

I understand different tastes but…really?

>>15099164

>Sure, you can go for the end, but not only does the neutral story suck, but you're not getting the full experience.

Going straight for the end isn't the neutral option for some of the levels. And, dear me, that you have to actually experiment and play a game if you want to get the full experience.

>Also, dropping important plot elements isn't exactly "evolved."

Yeah, they could have better fleshed out some of the parts of the game's story in a much better fashion.

>>15099274

>Going straight for the end isn't the neutral option for some of the levels. And, dear me, that you have to actually experiment and play a game if you want to get the full experience.

I'm talking about a pure neutral pathway. Also, like I said before, the missions suck. So wouldn't it be better to experience every level in the game like in the expert mode, where all you have to do is get to the end of the stage? If you really want to keep the morality system, give each level a different goal ring for each pathway.

Sonic the Hedgehog is the most disgusting sodomite shit I've seen.

Go read a bible, trannies.

>>15099478

What's in it? All I saw was Ray and Mighty.

>>15099478

Yes. Going to buy it on the off chance SEGA changes their mind about producing another Mania game.

>>15099522

One new level, pallet swaps for the rest. Probably some token bonus content thrown in.

>>15099522

Tag team mode, see 36:50

Also some new stuff from here, if this is trustworthy:

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=37969&st=450&p=929558&#entry929558

>>15097473

>Tell him to play the Wii/PS2 version, and then play the Unleashed mod on the PC version of Generations to experience the 360/PS3 levels.

What's wrong with Unleashed on 360/PS3?

>>15099646

Better Day stages, worse Night stages, need to collect sun/moon medals to progress, worse performance(PS3 only?)

In my opinion he should play mania alongside the classic 2d ones, about 3d ones, as a kid I used to like the exact same ones you think he should play, but now I just think it's best to avoid them altogheter, maybe making an exception for generations.

Sonic in 3d was a mistake, i hope sonic utopia really becomes a thing

>>15097340

Heroes isn't worth playing, Shadow isn't even worth existing. Lost World was awful too.

>Don't play any of the games

>Watch all of Cybershells' Sonic videos

>You now have obtained as much entertainment as Sanic can possibly provide you

>>15099871

>Cybershell

I enjoyed his videos right up until he started doing Top 10s and sold out. What a massive disappointment.

>>15099636

Never mind, someone confirmed it's fake:

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=37969&st=465&p=929584&#entry929584

>>15099903

He did one, and it was on some level of parody

>>15097340

>Play Sonic 1 and 2 on IOS/Andriod

You already fucked up. Just play the Genesis ones.

>>15098468

>Sonic games always being bad is a 2007 big bang theory "Geek Culture" meme

<trying to rationalize a game being sincerely edgy in order to sell Sonic to teenagers is "ironic"

Pick one.

I played the gamecube versions of sonic adventure 1, sonic adventure 2, and sonic heroes. Then I stopped playing any more sonic games after that. The series just wasnt for me. The last sonic-related game I played was smash bros brawl.