f48efa No.15064725
>Kirby (and therefore DDD) can swallow and split projectiles.
https://twitter.com/BlazerKirby/status/1007733885122371586
So what the changes to your main and are they good or bad?
f48efa No.15064743
>>15064725
Also archive here but I don't think the video will work https://archive.fo/nvVxv
573abe No.15064762
no one played Mega Man at E3 because they're all shit eating casuals so my main has no confirmed changes.
d797bb No.15064785
>swallow and spit projectiles
YES
this is a huge buff.
573abe No.15064851
>>15064797
the same could be said of every fighting game and yet you don't go shit on those threads
f48efa No.15064969
>>15064797
Pleb-tier opinion.
2dc850 No.15064979
>>15064797
>You share a board with faggots this stupid
f229e6 No.15064988
>>15064851
Who will you main /v/?
2dc850 No.15065073
>>15064725
>Wii Fit Trainer
> +Uptilt now looks like a combo move with better range and less lag
> +Dtilt is faster
> +Dthrow seems to have some utility as a combo throw
> +Weird hitboxes like reverse ftilt are back
> +Healing mechanic is back
> +Upair still has a lingering hitbox
> –Smash attacks still look laggy as fuck
> –Header cancel still makes you helpless
> +CUTE
Not as many buffs as I'd like to have seen. Helplessness on Header cancel is particularly disappointing.
3a1c83 No.15065092
>>15064725
>So what the changes to your main and are they good or bad?
Mario still looks good
Pac-Man's grab is faster
Little Mac doesn't fucking freefall for his side B
I haven't mained Link since Melee but I might pick up YL just because he's back in and because I can't stand his BOTW design
16b60c No.15065173
>>15065092
>YL
Wait, Yooka Laylee is in smash? Fuck my life.
27b9f0 No.15065180
>>15065173
Young Link.
Do a fucking google search you lazy nigger.
16b60c No.15065200
>>15065180
Hey man, in my defense, people rarely abbreviate young link. Glad they actually aren't in smash though, it was one game, one very shitty game.
737ac1 No.15065211
>>15064797
>only 5 games in the series
You wanna know why I think you're a flaming homo kike?
9d92d0 No.15065360
9824ac No.15065418
>>15065092
I feel the same way. I wouldn't have a problem with it if the classic design was just from the last game, but they completely fucked it up.
9824ac No.15065420
>>15065413
kill yourself retard
3be41a No.15065430
>>15064797
>a sequel is an iteration of it's predecessor
good work professor
44e0ee No.15065442
They could always do this?
At least kirby could I know, he'd eat them and if they were explosive/energy he'd take damage from eating them but less than a direct hit
c66763 No.15065455
>>15065420
after you, nintoddler
6560f8 No.15065638
>>15064725
>DDD can swallow and split projectiles.
No more zoning, faggots. The king is ready to spit Gordo's left, right, and center.
7a6773 No.15065651
>>15064725
>So what the changes to your main and are they good or bad?
Pac-man's platform acts as a footstool of enemies now?
8c4b6e No.15065712
>>15065638
Maybe we'll stop having people like fat scarf jumping about the last 30 seconds avoiding all combat to win on a technicality.
7a6773 No.15065738
>>15065712
How about we just don't esports?
fed146 No.15065951
>>15065712
Fat scarf retired from Smash though so we don't have to worry about him ever again
bc87d4 No.15065981
>>15064725
>And supporting (((their))) faggotry
FUCK NO
009adf No.15066026
>>15064762
Mega Man's leaf shield is usable now.
cbe5e6 No.15066065
Dr mario's down air is a spike
dffd06 No.15066071
Dedede could always swallow projectiles, they just never healed him before.
It is cool how they can spit them back out though. Useful utility for certain situations.
Dealing with dual Samus teams in multiplayer was a pain before because even if you evade one of their fully charged shots you get zapped by the second. This feature makes it so you can spit it back at them and maybe deflect or even overpower their projectile.
a5e2cb No.15066092
>>15065981
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I THINK THATS MY EX ON THE RIGHT IN THAT PHOTO!
ab1f94 No.15066105
>>15064725
>So what the changes to your main and are they good or bad?
I don't know OP, my main isn't officially announced yet.
009adf No.15066106
>>15066092
My dad works for Nintendo and he told me I fucked your ex's mom.
dee156 No.15066120
>>15066105
Neither is mine.
a5e2cb No.15066130
>>15066106
My ex's mom was hot last time I saw her so there's nothing wrong with that.
3b2726 No.15066544
>>15064725
I really hate what they did with Mr Game and Watch's design, the jarring change in character for almost every move looks ugly as fuck.
I'll main Samus/Ridley now.
d74e7d No.15066557
>>15064969
>>15064851
>>15064979
>>15065211
>>15065360
>>15065430
I didn't used to think that way but the new one for Switch is clearly just a shameless rehash of the one for Wii U
fed146 No.15066584
>>15066557
Every Smash game is a rehash of the last with significant mechanical changes
Smash Ultimate is no different
I'm not sure what you were expecting
d74e7d No.15066598
>>15066584
a new engine would've been nice
3a1c83 No.15066617
>>15066598
Ultimate is a different engine from Smash 4, it uses Unreal instead of Havok
d74e7d No.15066633
>>15066617
I trust you but do you have a source on that?
fed146 No.15066634
>>15066617
>Smash on the Unreal Engine
>Ridley is playable
Two sentences I never thought I was going to fucking hear but here we are
3a1c83 No.15066645
>>15066633
I don't, I just remember seeing it posted around when the game was first revealed. Even if it isn't a new engine I'd still consider the changes to be major enough to qualify as a new game
e435ee No.15066656
>>15066645
>I just remember seeing it posted around when the game was first revealed
You probably saw the logo for Unreal Engine 4 at the end of the Direct and misinterpreted it as Smash running on Unreal. Keep in mind, this was the same Direct that 'revealed' Fortnite on Switch and Daemon X Machina, which runs on the same engine.
089f08 No.15066659
>>15066617
>>15066633
>>15066634
It's not actually on Unreal, they just credited it after the E3 demo because other games they showcased were on it.
On all the promotional materials and demos of smash-exclusive content since, they haven't mentioned it.
>>15066656
Yep.
19e5cb No.15066663
>>15065188
Probably never, but he'd certainly have enough of a moveset if subweapons made it in for B moves. And hell, just call him "Belmont" and have his different "colors" be Simon, Trevor, Richter, and Julius models, so fans can play as the vampire hunter they want to (and all of which having been in games on Nintendo systems).
>>15065638
But will Waddle-Doos still be able to have their energy beam absorbed? Never did get around to Smash 4, but I remember a friend getting fucking mad at me in Brawl because playing as Lucas, I healed from (I think; it's admittedly been quite a while) 70% to 0% from a Waddle-Doo he'd tossed out.
e435ee No.15066678
>>15066663
>But will Waddle-Doos still be able to have their energy beam absorbed?
>Never did get around to Smash 4
Waddle-Doos were removed from Dedede's moveset in Smash 4. Nothing but Gordos from the fat penguin.
3b2726 No.15066706
>>15066663
>reddish simon, blueish richter, greenish trevor and yellowish julius
YES
fed146 No.15066713
>>15066678
I'm glad they did away with the big gay dance but did they really have to get rid of Waddle Dees altogether?
I mean I guess it increases Bandana Dee's chances of getting in.
On another note I looked at the results of the ballot recently and in Japan there was a sizable amount of people who wanted Magolor from Return to Dreamland playable. I had no idea he was so popular over there, but I'm guessing they only want him in so there's a higher chance of Sakurai adding C-R-O-W-N-E-D in as a musical track.
e435ee No.15066728
>>15066713
>but I'm guessing they only want him in so there's a higher chance of Sakurai adding C-R-O-W-N-E-D in as a musical track.
I would not be opposed to it, but I would also not be opposed to a cover of Moonstruck Blossom. Keep in mind, this is the same series which passed up the inclusion of One-Winged Angel for Cloud's stage.
089f08 No.15066735
>>15066713
They're going to be adding him as a playable character to Star Allies, so he'll even have a viable moveset. I like Bandana Dee and the idea of a spear character, but I definitely think that having a Kirby villain like Magolor or Marx would make a better choice for Smash.
fed146 No.15066742
>>15066728
One-Winged Angel will be in there this time around for sure. There's new Street Fighter music so I wouldn't put it past new tracks from other games too.
I just want another Sonic remix. Is that too much to ask?
4d1250 No.15066745
19e5cb No.15066776
>>15066678
Ah, that's a shame. No more unintentional pocket healer then. Still, I'd think him chucking a slave out on to the field at random was part of his character. While one could say only bringing Gordos makes him more prepared or whatever, the way he'd just toss some poor asshole onto the field to die for jackass king and country being culled feels like a loss of charm.
>>15066706
And if assists are still a thing, have one summon a Hellmont to fuck everyone's shit up.
16b60c No.15066798
>>15066745
Yes, because this board can change the sales of a flagship franchise. Buying or not, their sales won't make a difference.
6153de No.15066845
>>15066663
Simon will be a Ganon'd version of Bayonetta, bigger focus on smash-whip + probably able to vary between dagger, holy water, axe, and cross for item tosses
fed146 No.15066901
>>15066845
Simon being a semi-clone would be the ultimate monkey's paw.
5848de No.15066905
>>15066745
How is that censorship? Sakurai changed her to be more muscular Amazon.
5848de No.15066907
Also the new Zelda is really cute
fed146 No.15066909
>>15066745
The only reason Sakurai changed it is because of the same reason he got rid of all the pantsu except for Palutena: Because he worked on Kid Icarus, go fuck yourself
7405e9 No.15066955
>>15066907
>new zelda is a 100x improvement
>new link is an unfathomable downgrade, the traditional outfit somehow looks the worst out of anything yet
I'll count this as a net positive, but I'm still not happy about it
5848de No.15066962
>>15066955
imo he doesn't look as bad as skyward sword link to me
7405e9 No.15066981
>>15066962
He looks bad, but he doesn't look nearly as abysmal as he does wearing the traditional tunic. Those shorts are at the perfect length to look like peak homosexual dogshit
7405e9 No.15066995
>>15066962
>>15066981
I mean how do you even fuck up this bad? He would somehow look like less of a fag if the shorts were shorter. Looks awful.
fed146 No.15066998
>>15066995
He looks pretty normal to me. Link's always looked like a fag, it's the price you pay when you're the hero of a fantasy adventure game.
3a1c83 No.15067018
>>15066995
>Fierce Deity costume is back but with those fucking awful shorts
man I hope Young Link has good alts
>>15066998
Smash 4 Link didn't look nearly as bad
7405e9 No.15067037
>>15066998
But his TP outfit was pretty cool, and even his OoT outfit wasn't bad.
Nothing has been as bad as the new link
4d1250 No.15067044
>>15066798
We must become the change we wish to see, look at dark souls/demon souls, what starts as niche fascination can become mainstream.
>>15066905
It doesn't matter what was changed, when that other waifu 2d shooter game gave boobs to some characters who were flat, it's still censorship regardless of whatever preferences other's have.
>>15066909
>The only reason Sakurai changed it is because of the same reason he got rid of all the pantsu except for Palutena:
>the second slippery slope is okay because of first slipper slope
>go fuck yourself
>being arrogant about defending censorship
you first 4chan faggot
fed146 No.15067049
>>15067044
>putting words in my mouth
Also "go fuck yourself" was Sakurai's words, not mine.
6560f8 No.15067053
>>15067018
The only cool alt so far is Dark Young Link, but it's safe to assume that Fierce Deity is his final smash.
5848de No.15067063
>>15067044
>It doesn't matter what was changed, when that other waifu 2d shooter game gave boobs to some characters who were flat, it's still censorship regardless of whatever preferences other's have.
That's not what censorship is anon. That's like complaining that New Zelda is censorship because she is a redesign. You guys have no idea what words even mean anymore
5848de No.15067077
>>15067063
Also now that I think about it I should have used snake as an example instead of Zelda since snake's Ultimate butt is gone compared to his brawl version
>>15067037
>Implying OoT Link wasn't the best Link design.
695a3f No.15067078
>>15066995
I kinda like it, I'm reminded of Zelda 1 Link.
The shorts look stupid as hell though.
fed146 No.15067081
>>15067078
Yeah I will admit, the shorts look weird. I wouldn't say they look BAD, but they look off.
3a1c83 No.15067091
>>15067053
I'm hoping he has an MM alt with the Hero's Shield and maybe a different green tunic, if Cloud can have his Advent Children outfit with not much variation then surely YL can get something similar
4d1250 No.15067094
>>15067063
>That's not what censorship is anon.
Oh, it certainly is censorship.
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/06/deep-space-waifu-loli-art-censored-due-to-obscure-steam-policies-says-dev/60919/
>That's like complaining that New Zelda is
Don't force such an easy example that's clearly not the same as removing or adding something because politics.
>You guys have no idea
stop acting like your personal definition is the correct one.
Stop justifying it, it's a censored game.
5848de No.15067107
My main problem was the missed opportunity of having links final smash be Fierce Deity
>>15067094
>Oh, it certainly is censorship.
That link talks about steam not Smash or Nintendo
>Don't force such an easy example that's clearly not the same as removing or adding something because politics.
You are the one talking about politics and talking about Sakurai changing her into a muscle Amazon is censorship without any proof. So I'll use my snake analogy then, is Snake censored since his rear isn't in Ultimate like it was in brawl?
>stop acting like your personal definition is the correct one.
That's exactly what you are doing.
19e5cb No.15067140
>>15066901
No, the ultimate monkey's paw would be that it wound up being Judgement Simon.
4d1250 No.15067145
>>15067107
>>Oh, it certainly is censorship.
>That link talks about steam not Smash or Nintendo
>You are the one talking about politics and talking about Sakurai changing her into a muscle Amazon is censorship without any proof.
>>stop acting like your personal definition is the correct one.
>That's exactly what you are doing.
036ea6 No.15067155
But can he swallow my cum?
118c8d No.15067160
Upset Link no longer has the clawshot making his recovery even worse.
He'd better fucking be able to explode bombs he's carrying
5848de No.15067163
>>15067145
So are you going to actually give me answers or continue to dance around the subject because you made a fool of yourself? And even so that link does more damage to you since it's the exact opposite of what you were claiming since they were forced to make their chests bigger instead of smaller
97c7c7 No.15067169
>>15067160
He'll probably be able to use his bombs to recover like Snake can use his C4.
3a1c83 No.15067172
>>15067169
>>15067160
IIRC he holds onto his bombs before he can detonate them, whereas Snake drops the C4 and can detonate at any point
3a1c83 No.15067185
>>15067160
>>15067169
sage for double post, taken from Smash wiki
>Link's down special is now the Remote Bomb Rune. It does not explode on contact, is rather bouncy and can be knocked around by attacks without detonating, and does not detonate after a set time. Instead, it is manually detonated by pressing the down special again. While this allows for item setups, it also prevents Link from extending his recovery in the same way as previous games.
>Link can now bomb recover by taking out a remote bomb, Z-dropping, then detonating.
>Link can only have one Remote Bomb Rune out on the battlefield, instead of two standard bombs. However, his bombs now have a larger blast radius to compensate.
16b60c No.15067190
>>15067155
Can you swallow HIS cum is the question.
97c7c7 No.15067195
>>15067185
>Link can now bomb recover by taking out a remote bomb, Z-dropping, then detonating.
That's exactly what i meant by him being able to recover like Snake.
3a1c83 No.15067199
>>15067195
Snake's can be detonated immediately after dropping though, compared to having to z-drop and then detonate
5848de No.15067210
>>15067163
>>15067145
Also before you start to make an even bigger fool of yourself let me explain censorship.
Steam game girls are forced to increase their cup sizes because of steam and not because they want too. That's censorship . Sakurai decides on his own that he wants to change Samus's look into a muscle amazon. That is not censorship. If you still can't tell the difference then go read a dictionary you nigger
5848de No.15067231
Alright back on topic now. Do you nigs think bayonetta will be broken or do you think that she was never broken?
118c8d No.15067244
>>15067231
Well she combo'd Ridley off the top of the screen at 20% during the tournament
So something's still fucked
5848de No.15067251
>>15067244
Maybe Ridley is just awful and will be an F tier character. Like he deserves
fed146 No.15067256
>>15067244
People standing next to Sakurai during that reported that when he saw that, he shaked his head. And at the end of the tournament he talked about fixing some bugs that he spotted during the gameplay.
The witch hunts are over, fellas.
118c8d No.15067262
>>15067251
Props to the guy who did it, though. Everyone fucking saw it. That puts at least some pressure on the Samurai
Also, Ridley got fucking crushed in every serious match I saw. The RAGE event where Abadango used Inkling was particularly brutal. He killed Ridley four times in a minute and a half
fed146 No.15067275
>>15067262
Inklings in general are apparently S-Tier. I've even read that you can fucking dashdance as them.
5848de No.15067276
>>15067262
>Ridley finally made it into smash
>He's garbage to keep it true to the series
Pottery
3a1c83 No.15067290
>>15067244
>>15067256
If you watch the match you can see she kept her double jump after doing her Up B, which is why she could get so high and keep her momentum going
fed146 No.15067293
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>>15067290
Scarflard spic illustrates this in case you can't see it
d797bb No.15067427
>>15066663
anon you still have 4 other colors to use, everybody has 8 color variants. Would you give 2 colors for each or allow Leon, Sonia, Juste and Christopher to be alt colors too?
d797bb No.15067430
>>15067231
Nair has landing lag
Fair no longer can perform combos like in smash 4
witch time has more end lag
i don't think she'll be broken, but still strong
fed146 No.15067437
>>15067430
As she should be. While I and a lot of other people want her to get nerfed into the fucking ground, I don't want her to become completely unviable either, in part because I'm biased towards the Bayonetta games and fucking love them.
d797bb No.15067441
>>15066955
I think Link Looked fine in Smash 4
the BOTW link looks meh
d797bb No.15067481
Kirby :
+Down B is way faster and has less recovery time
+ Swallow projectiles to heal. Spit for damage. In the video, Samus almost dies at 0% from a spit, and the spit did 39% percent. That's insane
+ Inhale is faster
+ Hammer is stronger and has less lag
+A real Dash attack, used as killing move and can hit many opponents all the way until it finishes with the same knockback
+ Nair, Upair, Fair, Dair have longer range like in Brawl. Sword shoes are back
+ Down Taunt is shorter so you can taunt and get the copy ability instantly gone
+ He is faster on the ground (and peppy)
+ His uptilt is a LOT bigger
+ Taunts can be canceled so you can stop your Down Taunt instantly
+ His Up-b has a hitbox when he goes in the air with the cutter
+ Fthrow changed: It doesn't connect upair, but it still does other combo's, but longer this time,
you jump higher then your opponent
+ Kirbyciding: You will die later then your opponent so you win the game on last stock situations (On Inhale)
+ Stone with around 95% and lower shield will shieldbreak the opponent (More shield damage)
+ Hammer with around 95% and lower shield will shieldbreak the opponent (More shield
damage)
+ A better killing upair
+ Dair has better true combo's into Uptilt and grab
+ Longer range on your Fsmash
+ His air acceleration when jumping is better
+ Fsmash cross shields now
+ Dash attack can kill on high %
Negatives:
- No back throw Back air combo, but this was only on heavies and at low percentage and rarely used anyway
- slightly more lag on forward smash, but forward smash crosses shield and has more range. being a net positive
Not sure:
? Dtilt has more change of getting the trip
? Bair has more range besides the already increased range
? Inhale range is buffed
? Inhale windbox is bigger
Overall Kirby is getting hyperbuffed
d797bb No.15067491
7f666a No.15067554
>>15064725
I dunno, any news about Lucario yet? Is he like his Project M version with either a better down-B, a damaging up-A (without alternate moveset), or on-hit canceling for at least A attacks?
>>15066544
Oh my god, what did they do to my secondary?
Also post your team. Lucario, G&W, Kirby, C. Falcon, Fox here. Snake again soon.
1f8975 No.15067781
Punch whatever retarded faggot convinced Sakurai to ruin Kirby's dash by replacing the spin with the shitty fireball.
d797bb No.15067810
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>>15067781
The fireball is 10 times better than the spin in actual use. However it would've been cooler if they just buffed the spin to have better hitbox, less recovery time, no startup, and be as good as it actually is on kirby super star. It's supposed to be the yo-yo spin, and he can jump while doing it. If it actually had the frame data does in super star, the dash attack would actually be one of the best in the game. crossing shield, maneuverability, multi hit, combo potential, can jump while doing it, less lag when coming out and little to no startup. It would be way more fun to incorporate into combos or follow-ups. The fireball dash attack is the lazy design.
1f8975 No.15067846
>>15067810
The spin was also more satisfying as far as Kirby having actual fighting moves and it helped interrupt your opponent's combos or even start your own. How is that not better?
I want an intelligent, rational anon that has played since 64 and Melee and has analyzed the gameplay shown thus far to explain how the fuck the fireball is an improvement when it's the most noticeable change from Kirby being shit in Melee just so he wouldn't be given special treatment and Brawl making him much better even if outclassed.
d797bb No.15067855
>>15067846
The fireball from SSBU is used as a KO move with high priority that crosses shield and cleaves. The spin from Smash 4 is absolute trash with too much end lag that isonly used to chase a roll or tech, and even then you're better off dash grabbing, it's only used on the situation that you're reading a normal get-up and want the multi-hit to guarantee a hit.
That's the only use of the dash attack in smash 4. it's trash and nobody uses it as a mix-up option. on SSBU it will be used both as a mixup (because it crosses shield), as a trade (because of high priority) and as a KO move. Ask any person who plays kirby on smash 4 and they will be glad they have another move to play with. Perhaps you should read the thread before posting.
652e74 No.15067937
>>15066663
This would be the best option possible, since all belmonts are holy warriors that should be celebrated.
1f8975 No.15067940
>>15067855
I saw a shit ton of people even on Twitter blowing loads that the fireball was back and couldn't understand why. How shit that dash is in Melee is burned into my memory. The guy who made that Kirbycide video even knows. Sure, Project M showed how to actually make it good and some guy who loves blue Kirby was kicking Bowser ass with it, but that was a team of dedicated autists with plenty of time to tinker with VS people with a deadline just in charge of making a new game that Sakurai decided to bring it back in.
After that I just can't register Sakurai made it that better now. I have to literally witness.
b2830c No.15067957
1f8975 No.15067982
>>15067554
Captain Falcon
Pikachu
Marth
Toon Link
Kirby
b115ea No.15068181
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>>15067554
Nothing too clear on him yet, but he seems to have some juggle potential.
b115ea No.15068192
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>>15067554
>game and watch
They made all of his moves make him take on the form of the actual character from that game.
8e5825 No.15068219
>>15067190
You can't because Kirby is a girl.
b115ea No.15068226
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19e5cb No.15068262
>>15067427
I guess I'm not quite up to date on how many variants there are at this point. I guess two colors each; issue at hand is finding enough whip users left that Konami would clear as far as being canon goes (I fucking doubt Nathan would be allowed to make the cut, sadly).
16b60c No.15068385
>>15068219
I was talking about dedede
861d8f No.15068422
>>15067210
>I don't know what self-censorship is the post
07cd3a No.15068448
>>15067437
Sm4sh made me hate Bayonetta. I only recently received Bayo1 and 2 on the WiiU as a gift, but I don't want to play them because I can't feel anything but contempt for the smug cunt now.
5848de No.15068454
>>15068422
>I don't know what censorship is the post
Where is the proof that he self censored himself and didn't just redesign her because he wanted to like he did with Link, Zelda etc?
27093f No.15068470
Ganon got tons of buffs. It's hard to say how much exactly because there's only a few videos and damage values in more than 2 player matches are different, but he looks decent.
>>15068448
I have a similar problem, I wanted to play and buy the game but she pissed me off so much in Smash, I reconsidered and never bought it. I stopped playing Smash 4 because I started seeing too many niggers on her. Seeing her back to her own tricks at E3 made me disgusted but also pleased because Sakurai always nerfs shit he sees on tournaments that makes people pissed off. I want him to nerf that bitch so much, even Brawl Ganondorf will seem like the most broken character in comparison.
66b81e No.15068490
>>15068226
>>15068219
>Defiling the most objectively pure being in our universe
You people disgust me.
>>15068422
>If he makes tits smaller because of other people it's wrong!
>If he decides on his own to make tits smaller it's wrong!
I feel like you guys are more upset about tits being smaller than actual censorship. That's okay though, who doesn't like a good set of well-proportioned funbags? Just don't convince yourself you're crusading for some righteous social cause just because some titties went down a cup size.
07cd3a No.15068496
>>15068470
>I stopped playing Smash 4 because I started seeing too many niggers on her.
Exactly the same boat. Both her and Cloud players. But I really don't think either can be nerfed enough. Ultimate might fix a lot of things but I think they're above and beyond FUBAR.
5848de No.15068501
>>15068470
>I want him to nerf that bitch so much, even Brawl Ganondorf will seem like the most broken character in comparison.
Whoa anon, take it easy man
578996 No.15068522
>>15068490
>defiling
>he thinks sex is always a force of corruption and degeneracy
c4b333 No.15068546
>>15068522
I know right? Sex is an act meant to bond lovers together and create a new life from their blessed union. Love is pure!
88e254 No.15068610
>>15066745
>censored
>because they removed a non canon change that didn't make sense in the first place
3cc621 No.15068646
>>15067554
I'm gay, meant damaging up-B.
861d8f No.15068672
>>15068610
What's the canon cup size for samus? What game specifies it?
1f8975 No.15068771
>>15068672
Her tits honestly look closer to NES, Super and Fusion in the official art for her. I will miss the Brawl and Sm4sh funbags, but it could have just as easily been making it easier to model.
Still didn't need to change the size just to increase her muscles.
2887d7 No.15068783
>>15068672
She's an Olympian gymnast by training. Go look up gymnasts and tell me how many cups above size b you see. The increase in thigh definition is highly appropriate, for the same reason.
Samus just isn't built for big titty lovers. She's built on thighs and abs.
1f8975 No.15068795
>>15068783
Still begs the question why she was curvier in the last 2 games.
You know how stubborn and obsessive Sakurai can be. I don't see him censoring his own suicidal hard work. Also, didn't Palutena get a bust increase on top of having pantyshots not?
5848de No.15068802
>>15068771
>Still didn't need to change the size just to increase her muscles.
That much I agree with that muscle Amazons with big tats are the best
861d8f No.15068839
>>15068783
Okay so there is no canon description of how large her breasts are, thanks for clarifying.
1f8975 No.15068872
>>15068839
There's an inconsistency because most noticeably, there's a size difference between 2 of a Fusion's own clear images. One image shows her standing confidently with a normal chest size while another with her enjoying a breeze looks bigger.
Still, why did Sakurai not change the size between Brawl and Sm4sh? It's barely noticeable while this decrease immediately catches the eye. And why did Snake's funny bubble ass shrink to nothing to boot?
118c8d No.15068996
>>15068496
I was disgusted and horrified to see Cloud's Up Air still has unreasonable priority, lingers too fucking long, and comes out so fast
With the change to air dodging it's going to be even worse
2dc850 No.15069006
>>15067275
You can dashdance as every character now – what makes Inkling's so good is that she turns into a squid during the animation and swims through the ground. During her dashdance she's essentially crouching extremely low to the ground and eliminates a good chunk of her hitbox. It's a godlike option in neutral.
ab1f94 No.15069027
>>15067262
>new character with its own playstyle gets picked up by retards who never ever exploit his Specials proceeds to get wrecked by autists refusing to play any character other than their main™
Color me fucking surprised.
06fb85 No.15069040
>>15068496
>But I really don't think either can be nerfed enough.
What if we buff everyone else :^)
ce31a5 No.15069057
>>15064988
Snake and Wolf, because I miss masturbating to them.
99b0f0 No.15069308
>>15067846
in Melee the running fireball was the only A-move in the game you could run off a platform with. Not necessarily good, but it does have some edgeguarding utility in theory. What's more important to me is that it's unique.
d797bb No.15069387
I unironically want a shirt with this image
c1c6b1 No.15069635
>>15067053
>that tumblr mouth
3a1c83 No.15069645
>>15069635
>tumblr invented mouths
118c8d No.15069654
>>15064988
Super interested in Inkling and King K Rool
Going back to Kirby because he's getting buffed.
c1c6b1 No.15069678
>>15069645
That's a postmodern style of mouth. You can't deny it.
5848de No.15069681
>>15069635
>>15069678
How is that a tumblr mouth? Are you just calling out buzzwords nigga?
b115ea No.15069687
>>15067210
Educate yourself on what Pre-censorship is.
c1c6b1 No.15069706
>>15069681
Alright fine, I don't have examples for you. But don't forget
>Japan is finally being influenced by the (((current year))) west
Young Link's expression is just a small thing, but it's there nonetheless
118c8d No.15069716
>>15069706
Yeah you should probably be more worried about DOA extracting the sexy from their new game because gay furries at EVO found sexy women uncomfortable
5848de No.15069731
>>15069687
What the hell is with everyone on /v/ nowadays. I know what the hell censorship is and that is not it. Everything is buzzword this and buzzword that but none of you actually know what the meaning of these words even mean anymore, you just hear someone say it and then you parrot it. Pre censorship would be to change something beforehand in fear of backlash or something of it and him changing Samus into a muscle amazon is not that.
>>15069706
It's him gritting his teeth as he dives towards the ground with his sword. What is wrong with everyone.
97c7c7 No.15069749
>>15069731
There is literally no reason to reduce ZSS' breast size other than muh children.
c1c6b1 No.15069800
>>15069716
>be more worried
>as if lesser worries detract from larger worries
it's all bad. Seems like this shit's been going on since the 50s, going by the >>15069687 webm. small group of whiners changing the course of something most people are okay with and like.
>>15069731
>Pre censorship would be to change something beforehand in fear of backlash or something of it
That's exactly what the Lassie's Puppies webm states. Unless soccerai suddenly has a new fetish for amazon women, why else would you change/reduce a sexy body type if not to preempt backlash?
5848de No.15069803
>>15069749
OR and I know this sounds crazy, he could have done it because he wanted to give her a new look like he did with link and Zelda. I know it's crazy. But to even further tear apart your flimsy idea if it really was censorship then why didn't he do the same to Palutenea and her panty shot?. I have no problem with being upset that Samus lost a cup size cause I am too since big breasted amazons are top tier but calling something censorship when it isn't is just stupid.
5848de No.15069826
>>15069800
>That's exactly what the Lassie's Puppies webm states. Unless soccerai suddenly has a new fetish for amazon women, why else would you change/reduce a sexy body type if not to preempt backlash?
>Implying that woman with muscles aren't sexy
And you just answered your own question nigga, he did it for the same reason he got rid of snakes butt. But I do have to say I do appreciate you actually talking to me instead of just writing me off as a goon or sjw.
c1c6b1 No.15069846
>>15069826
>he did it for the same reason he got rid of snakes but
THINK OF THE CHILDREN I just want bantz/back-and-forth. dismissal is just lazy. sage because now it's getting gay, you faggot
5848de No.15069856
>>15069846
Yeah your right lets just finish talk about smash.
Who is your main anon?
c1c6b1 No.15069879
>>15069856
Kirby.
I haven't played Smash in a long time since the Wii U one, and only for a little since I prefer playing with a person beside me instead of online, and AI gets boring really fast. I'm also not good.
5848de No.15069903
>>15069879
Mines link, I mostly played Brawl or the N64 version and I'm not very good either
772e88 No.15069919
>>15067262
>That puts at least some pressure on the Samurai
According to some people who sat next to him during the event, Sakurai apparently shook his head and immediately started writing in a notebook after he saw that combo.
5848de No.15069924
>>15069919
From what I've seen I hope he doesn't nerf her too bad. The salt Bayonetta generated was amazing
1f8975 No.15069951
>>15069731
I don't fucking know, but this shilling against Japan when sex will always sell and the foreigner tumblr retardation is self destructive and incompatible with human nature and sexuality keeps getting overlooked.
>>15069826
I think someone like Sakurai actually removed Snake's ass on purpose after redesigning Samus to be fair. That or it was blatant laziness from someone.
97c7c7 No.15069977
>>15069803
That's bullshit and you know it.
118c8d No.15069986
>>15069924
But I'm sick of tournaments and For Glory being half-Bayo half-Cloud
c1c6b1 No.15070024
>>15069986
>fox-only
>bayo-only
this is just like every game. metagaming determines the theoretical best, so that's all anyone ever uses. Balancing her will only make it rosalina-only, or inkling-only, or what ever people decide what's strongest after dataminers drop all the frame data. just play yoshi/pikachu/pokemon trainer and have some good ol' casual fun with friends
5848de No.15070030
>>15069977
>That's bullshit and you know it.
Alright then lets just get this over with, so Sakurai changing Samus because he wants too like he did with others is too absurd yet it being censored,self-censored and pre-censored without any proof makes more sense for what reason?.
>>15069986
But that's what makes it so funny. I really do hope Amiibo cock fighting makes a come back.
f42558 No.15070108
>>15066745
>The creators of the game gave samus slightly smaller tits and more legs/ass than she had in a completely different game, because that makes more sense for her character
>This is censorship
wew
97c7c7 No.15070138
>>15070030
In the first place we don't even know if it was Sakurai's decision.
5848de No.15070161
>>15070138
Well seeing as he is the lead director and creator of the game it would be safe to assume so and that's easier to see than click bait articles calling it censorship when they have no proof.
118c8d No.15070204
>>15070030
>I really do hope Amiibo cock fighting makes a come back.
Already confirmed
5848de No.15070229
>>15070204
>Already confirmed
Yes
188aeb No.15070509
So are Echo Fighters just clones like in previous games, or are they more like alt costumes? Do they have a slot on the character select screen, is what I'm asking.
188aeb No.15070517
>>15069716
I have a theory they're just doing this because they know the DOA audience will shell out for sexy costumes. May as well curry some favour with hack journalists while fleecing your fans for money.
5848de No.15070541
>>15070509
Echo fighters are clones. And I think they share the same spot with their main character
188aeb No.15070588
>>15070541
So you select it like an alt costume, but it has unique stats?
Makes sense, to save screen space. I wonder if it will apply to returning characters like Falco.
5848de No.15070634
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15070588
>>15070588
>So you select it like an alt costume, but it has unique stats?
I think they have mostly the same stats and you select them like outfits I think. Don't know if they have unique smashes though
>>15070588
>>15070588
>>15070588
118c8d No.15070637
>>15070588
Falco didn't have an E next to his name so he's not an Echo, neither is Wolf
f42558 No.15070640
>>15070588
>I wonder if it will apply to returning characters like Falco.
No, they're apparently too different for sakurai to consider "real" clones
Only lucina and dark pit are echo fighters
188aeb No.15070687
>>15070647
There's another version?
dacd23 No.15070747
>>15070640
>>15070637
>>15070588
>>15070541
>>15070634
Echo fighters are the characters who are directly mirroring a pre-existing character but with small variations (I.E. Dark Pits bow does slightly more damage and is slower than Pits bow and Lucina's neutral attacks do slightly more damage than Marth's, but her tilt attacks are slightly weaker). Daisy will follow suit with slight variants on Peach's move set and be a separate characters slot like previous echo fighters.
Characters like Falco, Wolf, Ganondorf, Pichu, and Roy have their move set originally based on another character but the attacks have wildly different changes or flat out unique attacks that actually change the play style of a character. These character's are considered different enough to be classified as individual characters and not echo fighters.
a043de No.15070892
>>15064725
Smash finally turned into an official Kirby game
772e88 No.15070940
>>15070747
>Lucina's neutral attacks do slightly more damage than Marth's, but her tilt attacks are slightly weaker
I haven't played Smash 4 in ages but I don't think that was how she worked. The main difference was that she lacked Marth's tipper mechanic, meaning that her damage/knockback is consistently (slightly) higher A) against faster characters who are harder to keep at the correct distance and B) for players who struggle with spacing in general. Whereas if you're good at maintaining the right amount of distance between you and your opponent, Marth consistently deals more damage and knockback thanks to his tipper.
Pic related shows the difference pretty well. Marth's motion trail is paler at the tip of the sword whereas hers is the same colour the whole way along the sword.
54bedc No.15071194
>>15064725
My god why doesn't kirby fucking die he's a light character and he kept getting flung around while samus goes down in one shot.
fed146 No.15071232
>>15071194
They've heavily increased how far you need to go off-screen in order to get KOed because all the attacks in Ultimate inflict fucktons of knockback now.
146aa7 No.15071345
>>15071232
I know they've been putting effort into making this a faster more competitive game, but doesn't higher overall knockback seem kinda….brawl-y?
4 seemed like it was going in the right direction, but more or less just focused on grab combos, I don't mind that shift of focus but the massive knockback is kinda worrying
fed146 No.15071406
>>15071345
It does feel pretty Brawl-ish but loads of knockback wasn't what made Brawl shit, it was that combined with floaty-ass gameplay.
Ultimate isn't Melee-fast, but it's fast. We may just end up seeing only one Smash game at EVO.
118c8d No.15071468
>>15071406
>We may just end up seeing only one Smash game at EVO.
You obviously don't understand Melee players very well
ab1f94 No.15071475
>>15071468
He doesn't, but I do.
c5976f No.15071492
fed146 No.15071495
>>15071475
I love how Meleefags made a meme about the game becoming so stale that everyone is perfect at it and games are decided by port priority with zero self-awareness
97c7c7 No.15071497
>>15071475
>fucking meleefags ruining muh fgc
ab1f94 No.15071508
>>15071492
>>15071497
Spotted the kissless neckbeards.
How is playing the same furry for 17 fucking years working out for you?
d797bb No.15071510
>>15071497
Meleefags are the worst fanbase of all smashes.
64 players are chill , brawl players mostly don't exist but also don't propagate the game they play because they know people who rather play that are the minority, Project M players keep to themselves and thank having a mod made to play brawl like melee, and smash 4 players are usually chill too, albeit with more mainstream incorporated.
You know which of all the smash fanbases had issues with not showering? The melee crowd.
c5976f No.15071515
>>15071508
I don't give a shit about melee, I give a shit about you being a niggerfaggot crossposter.
97c7c7 No.15071522
>>15071508
I bet you like watching competitive tr4sh.
3aa0fb No.15071526
>>15068454
But she looks exactly the same except for the shrinkage you fucking homo.
>>15068490
>actual censorship
>self censorship is not censorship
Jesus Christ with all the times we've talked about censorship on this board but "IT'S OK WHEN SMASH DOES IT!"
I'm not giving them new money for this, preowned it is. It's not just Zero Suit either, Snake got a his butt nerfed why again?
>>15068783
>>15070108
>Muh realism
Opinion discarded. And why is Snake losing muscle in his ass when he's a legendary soldier? Seems inconsistent by your logic.
>>15069803
>Muh redesign
Because she looks so different from Smash 4, added muscles and smaller breasts. Wow dude, so different. Face it she's barely changed and this is tasteless change.
>inb4 muh Zelda again even though Zelda didn't drop two cup sizes and has a different face unlike zss
>>15070030
Where is YOUR proof that he isn't doing this. What we can see is more powerful than your assumptions.
5848de No.15071554
>>15071526
>Where is YOUR proof that he isn't doing this. What we can see is more powerful than your assumptions.
>Because she looks so different from Smash 4, added muscles and smaller breasts. Wow dude, so different. Face it she's barely changed and this is tasteless change.
>But she looks exactly the same except for the shrinkage you fucking homo.
Him changing her design because he wants too is still not censorship anon, you are making the claim that because he changed her design that it is censorship when it is not. You have no proof of it being censorship other than being a design change that you don't like and I can see why but that still does not make it censorship because you want it to be.
66b81e No.15071558
>>15071526
>Snake got a his butt nerfed why again?
The narrative right now is that Samus' tits were nerfed to preempt backlash from SJWs, right? When have you ever heard an SJW complain about a sexy man's ass? In fact, most of the people complaining on Twitter seem to be woman SJWs, because they couldn't recognize a double-standard even if it killed them. Hell, even the ones that justify sexy men over women cause "male power fantasy" wanna see that ass in smash.
>Where is YOUR proof that he isn't doing this
That's not how you argue dude. The burden of proof is on you. This is why we have the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" here in the states.
118c8d No.15071644
>We're STILL bitching about ass n tiddies
Christ
e4a58a No.15071700
Anyone else wish Young Link would get decloned? There are so fucking many items they could have given him, especially from the Game Boy games. Magnet Gloves, various magic staves, the screen-clearing nuke medallions, the fire rod, Roc's Cape, the list is damn near endless.
f42558 No.15071729
>>15071700
>Young Link will never switch between mask forms pokemon trainer-style
118c8d No.15071777
>>15071700
At least he's a bit less of a clone now that Link got retooled, but yeah, I wish they could have differentiated them a bit more.
Something I always wanted for WW Link was the Deku Leaf. Like when you use it in air there's violent updraft and Link can float for a while. When you use it on the ground Link lifts the Leaf over his head and sends a windbox out in whichever direction you hold the stick.
5848de No.15071779
>>15071644
I'm sorry anon
>>15071700
I still maintain that Majora's Mask would be a fantastic SMASH for young link
5848de No.15071790
>>15071779
Meant to say Fierce Deity Transformation not Majora's Mask. Fug
118c8d No.15071795
>>15071790
Well Nintendo wants to get away from the time-consuming smashes and turned them all into cutscenes so at this point I don't think it matters so much
5848de No.15071812
>>15071795
Now that really bothered me when I heard that, Chasing around or aiming smashes was great. It felt satisfying seeing Super Sonic trying to knock you off the stage but dodging him or surviving the Landmaster rampaging across the stage. Replacing some smashes sounds great but streamlining the entire thing as a cut scene really disappoints me
fed146 No.15071817
>>15071812
Some of the smashes still require you to do that. It's kind of a shame some of them are just cutscenes now but I am glad they did away with the fucking shitty landmaster and finally gave us the arwing final smash we deserve.
5848de No.15071838
>>15071817
>Some of the smashes still require you to do that.
That's great to hear
>but I am glad they did away with the fucking shitty landmaster
Blowing everything off the stage was great and sending anything standing on top of it always made me laugh. But the new airstrike did look really cool
e4a58a No.15071839
Fuck it. Here goes.
Young Link
^B Roc's Cape
Launches in a curvable arc similar to Lucario's, but also activates an extended glide like Peach. Very low damage, but massive recovery/maneuverability.
nB Slingshot
Fires a Deku Nut. Charge increases range, not damage. Unless charged, loses altitude extremely quickly. Hit player is momentarily stunned, like Mewtwo's Hypnosis. YL player can hit themselves even with FF turned off, making snap shots risky.
>B Fire Rod
Launches a single piercing fireball that continues until it hits terrain and then explodes. Has a few-second cooldown between each use. Trying again before then just causes a flame-elemental melee swing. Think the fireballs Yoshi shoots in his FS.
vB Mask Change
Pseudo Monado Arts that add bonus effects instead of changing base stats. Bomb Mask makes your A moves cause explosions that also give you small amounts of damage a la Pichu, etc.
Grab
Magnet Gloves. Works like the Hookshot, but it's sneakier. Can be used to grab items at range, but not ledges.
Pummel
Punches with Power Gauntlet
DThrow
Chokeslam enemy into ground and activate Quake Medallion
BThrow
Chuck enemy away with Titan's Mitt.
FThrow
Blast enemy forward with Bombos Medallion
UThrow
Ether Medallion blasts enemy vertically.
Smash attacks would be carried out with various items, particularly his sword and the shovel.
Final Smash
Fierce Deity. I don't have to tell you what happens here.
5848de No.15071854
>>15071839
Those are some great ideas anon, Quick changing into a goron and then into a deku to inflict damage and then float away would be amazing
e4a58a No.15071903
>>15071854
Hey, thanks. I was trying to avoid full model changes in the Mask transformations, aside from Fierce Deity, because of the problems it would introduce. If you can do Deku and Goron, you'd have to be able to do Zora, which is twice as tall as normal YL. That's a fuckload more dev time for a one-character gimmick once you start considering having to re-assign hitboxes and everything.
I was thinking more like…
Blast Mask
Attacks off the A button generate an explosion that causes an additional percentage of the original attack's damage, but also damages you for a smaller amount. High risk and reward on smash attacks.
Bremen Mask
Small cuccos will gradually flock around you, each blocking an attack that hits one, like a slowly recharging Leaf Shield.
Mask of Scents
All items picked up are converted to a small amount of HP.
All-Night Mask
Moves (and dodges!) don't stale as fast.
Giant's Mask
Long cooldown, but gain the equivalent to a Mushroom for a few seconds.
Game's Cameo Gimmick
Press a button combo on the Great Bay stage to don the Mask of Truth and have Kaepora Gaebora tell you about a character you're fighting.
e4a58a No.15071934
>>15071903
I just reread that last sentence and cracked the fuck up when I realized most of those are conversations, not dossiers, and that would imply Link just screaming back at an owl while it monologues at him.
Fuck it, print and ship it.
3a1c83 No.15072477
>>15071700
I used to think he'd work as his own character but now that BOTW Link has a different moveset I think he represents the 'classic' Link moveset well enough
118c8d No.15072486
>>15072477
Shame they're not going to give him the MM Hookshot and instead will default to Ocarina even though Young Link couldn't use the Hookshot in Ocarina
3a1c83 No.15072490
>>15072486
OOT is better than MM so I'm fine with it, though I wouldn't mind an MM alt costume with his gear from that game
1f8975 No.15072728
>>15067855
>>15067940
Thank you for smugly refuting me.
d797bb No.15074075
>>15072728
You're very welcomed
f48efa No.15076106
>>15071854
It'll never happen though.
695a3f No.15076153
>>15074075
>only the black and white version
1f8975 No.15085064
>>15065092
It feels shitty people who didn't love BotW or the Champion's Tunic are now forced to colorswap it. At least give us the fucking hood like we already can have Little Mac wear.
At least this hilarious cruelty is finally over. On that note, we shouldn't even want poor X in ever on top of how much he later tears up inside over fighting.
188aeb No.15085090
Who think they should go full reboot after Ultimate? Slim the roster down to the most essential characters (essentially the 64 cast, maybe without Yoshi or Jigglypuff because who cares, and a handful of characters from the later games), and beyond that, everyone is brand new. Dig deep, and pull out some weird obscure Nintendo characters like Doshin the Gaint.
25f7fa No.15085126
>>15070747
The only one of those characters that can be considered "wildly different" from their base is Wolf, with Falco only almost there because of the reflector kick.
3a1c83 No.15085274
Reminder that every stage is going to have a "hazardless" mode
>Melee Brinstar without acid
>Norfair without lava
>Corneria without ships
>Peach's Castle without banzai bills
>etc
LEGAL
04a05b No.15085553
>>15067262
>New character gets dominated by characters that autists have been playing for 2 gorillion hours
So shocking
b115ea No.15085586
>>15085126
Falco was included to basically be N64 Fox in Melee with the key difference being his blaster had the stagger effect to it.
26e9c4 No.15085664
>>15070108
>>15068610
>>15066909
>>15066905
>>15066798
>>15067063
>>15067107
>>15067145
>>15071644
>>15071554
>"let's make the cannon appearance of characters in game less hot by removing shit to make it more family friendly"
>not censorship
jesus fucking christ
26e9c4 No.15085672
>>15085553
Inkling is new as well
1f8975 No.15085686
>>15085664
This is what I was talking about. Her tits are completely different size than another end screen. Though now we have an estimate.
1f8975 No.15085699
>>15085664
>>15085686
I still can't believe we don't have a Fusion alt for her without that ponytail shit. Fucking despise that representation.
04a05b No.15085735
>>15085664
Glad you posted that pic because it reminds me of an important thing that people seem to forget about Samus. That she used to have average breasts and it was only in Other M that her size went up so much. From the debut of Zero Suit Samus in Metroid: Zero Mission, she's been an ass lady, which is reflected in her Ultimate design. I'd say it's less of a move of censorship and more a move to try and distance themselves from the game that almost killed the fucking franchise.
b115ea No.15085752
>>15085735
Seems somewhat. Her bust line was originally somewhat average, really, even as recent as Fusion/Zero mission. She gained bimbo-tier assets with other M.
009adf No.15085761
Little Mac now has okay recovery, and his KO punch is now actually a Star Punch. So, very good changes.
188aeb No.15085770
>>15085735
They could do one better and drop that Other M power suit design.
b115ea No.15085786
>>15085770
Agreed, I'd like them to go with the Samus Returns version, which is just a slightly tweeked version of the Metroid 2 suit.
04a05b No.15085789
>>15085761
Is it known if Little Mac freefalls after his Up Special? Because I could see his recovery not being dogshit if he can directional-dodge out of Up Special. Vice versa works too, I just want his recovery to increase just a little because his recovery always seem to fall just short of a ledge grab
>>15085770
Yeah. Them not changing it to the Samus Returns design is a huge misstep. Especially given how the gravity suit in that game is my new favorite power suit.
e4a58a No.15085792
>>15085770
As someone who hates nearly everything about Other M, I actually kind of like the version of the suit in it. It's supposed to be highly acrobatic, so a slick and streamlined overcoat on the bulky power armor is welcome. The one exception is the arm cannon, which looks goofy and unthreatening. If I could stick the Prime games' arm cannon on the OtherM suit, I'd be happy.
e4a58a No.15085800
>>15085789
Oh, shit, that's pretty slick too. I haven't played that remake yet.
04a05b No.15085811
Samus Returns also reminds me of yet another case of a non-Other M game in which she has a more average bust and a good derriere
e4a58a No.15085824
>>15085811
>still has fucking heels
Whyyyyyyyyyyy
009adf No.15085836
>>15085824
Because strippers can run really, really fast in high heels, anon.
1f8975 No.15085838
>>15085836
Nice reference.
e14e3f No.15085841
If there was ONE and ONLY ONE more Fire Emblem rep, I want it to be axe waifu who's final smash can call upon an army formation to storm the battlefield from the new game. Yes, I wish there was a spear guy, but this is the age of Mary Sue Emblem. At least axes would have a different move set with heavy mid-range attacks and lots of kicks.
1f8975 No.15085848
>>15085841
I would have voted that Hector guy because he seems cool and the perfect "classic" rep and lesser character to represent this series.
1f8975 No.15085862
>>15085811
I thought that was the "Ultimate" concept art or something, which made more sense.
Still, Snake losing his hilarious ass suggests Sakurai decided against them being sexy altogether and had Palutena overcompensate.
009adf No.15085867
>>15085841
I want it to be Anna because she's been in more games than anyone and has been more classes than other FE characters, thus making her moveset an amalgation of various classes that aren't being used by the other FE Smash characters.
188aeb No.15085875
>>15085841
Enough Fire Emblem. Give Advance Wars characters.
e4a58a No.15085910
>>15085875
Advance Wars is in no man's land of relevance. Too recent to be retro like Pit, too old to be a hot topic. It needs to simmer another generation, or get new games immediately and become popular again.
04a05b No.15085913
>>15085862
The removal of Snake's ass could be anything. It could be them using his old animation rig/animations on the new model squishes the ass geometry. It could be censorship. It could be a mandate from Kikenami as ass related humor was a very Kojima thing in the Metal Gear franchise (Seeing through Meryl's disguise by recognizing her ass, for example). It could be an honest mistake and they'll fix it later after hearing the shrieks of internet autism.
>>15085875
Snake's Project M moveset was made from cut content that was cut to keep the PEGI and CERO rating down. This involved knives and the tranq gun. Given that Advance Wars characters are 100% gun, I don't think it's possible.
188aeb No.15085917
>>15085913
I always envisioned them primarily commanding little units like Olimar.
e14e3f No.15085918
>>15085875
>>15085848
Yes, but Mary Sue at Intelligent Systems never played a Fire Emblem game before. So she'll bitch at Sakurai for not putting another one of her characters in. I'd prefer Hector too as a heavy armored fighter.
>>15085867
Anna can still happen as an echo fighter. I kinda want to see Anna as an assist trophy who uses a different weapon or tome every time she comes out. Nintendo will want to promote the new game first which is why I picked axe waifu.
b115ea No.15085935
>>15085824
Birds are digitigrade.
e4a58a No.15086007
>>15085935
>Chozo used staff weapons
Holy fuck how did I never catch this reference?
009adf No.15086013
>>15085918
>Anna as a Robin echo fighter
N O. I want her to have a ballastician move, a rescue staff move where she tosses it like a javelin as it activates so that she warps down from where it sticks into in a Kirby's upgrab sort of way, and some kind of pegasus knight move.
1f8975 No.15086193
>>15085913
Everyone is using fucking mystical dragon slaying blades or powers that can blow a hole through titanium, don't even ask what that would do to human flesh.
How is a tranquilizer or taser knife off limits?
3a1c83 No.15086216
>>15086193
It's all about presentation
>fantasy character swinging a larger than life sword and using magic
vs
>tactical military man using real life weaponry against Kirby
I don't like it either, but it's just how the ratings system goes about things
1f8975 No.15086256
>>15086216
Kirby's fought a bunch of war machines and Meta Knight even fired a fucking rifle for whatever reason at one point in Right Back At Ya.
All you'd have to do is make his own favorite gun less serious like with Bayonetta (Dante was cosmically fucking robbed). He already uses grenades and C4 anyways.
5848de No.15086274
>>15085875
Days of Ruin was the best Advanced Wars
b115ea No.15086327
>>15086007
Considering how long they have been around, they seem to fit that profile like a glove.
1f8975 No.15086384
>>15086274
Why the fuck isn't there more porn of Tabitha? Why is there no vanilla doujin of Will and Isabella?
5848de No.15086394
>>15086384
Because it wasn't popular enough. And just like life inside of the game it is pure suffering
04a05b No.15086584
>>15086256
That's TV though. That's a different rating system compared to video games. And explosives are allowed because explosions are labeled under "comic violence" in the ESRB rating system almost like they think of it like Looney Tunes. Y'know, Wiley Coyote having TNT explode in his hand type scenarios. It's stupid, but it's the truth.
89f244 No.15086649
>>15064725
Time for some Kirby is what that means. Also gives a reason to drop a copy power if against a player that has a projectile skill.
e4a58a No.15086703
>>15086649
>press B while shielding to regurgitate the power and gain a single use star projectile just like in the games
fed146 No.15086727
>Bandana Dee doesn't appear in King Dedede's final smash, despite him being in the crowd in the original game
>Any Waddle Dee amiibo can be used for any game, which is something only Smash amiibos have, and was a hint at Daisy being added because this applied to her as well
It's his time, boys.
e880b0 No.15087897
>>15085875
lash would give them more freedom for a fun mad sciencey design but they usually go for a mascot first.
>>15085913
bazookaman spam is pretty iconic of sami strategies. so it would be more than fitting if like snake her skill set revolved around explosives and hand to hand fighting
>>15086384
>Why the fuck isn't there more porn of Tabitha?
porn of the series is kind of disappointing in general.
50ae3c No.15088030
>>15066995
He looks fine. Have you talked to your parents about seeing a doctor? He could help you find out why you're so hypercritical and retarded.
3a1c83 No.15088540
>>15088030
>getting this bothered that somebody doesn't like Link's design
000000 No.15088598
>getting butthurt on anon's behalf
>projecting
c211de No.15088624
if you play all star mode as an inkling its really just a reverse bukkake session
1f8975 No.15088919
>>15086727
King Dedede already stopped using any underlings aside from Gordo and had a different independent new one.
I want Bandana Dee, but Sakurai is stubborn about including any more Kirby characters just to not show favoritism. Marx is also overpowered as shit in Star Allies, so people bandwagoning for him aren't thinking.
fed146 No.15088949
>>15088919
>Sakurai is stubborn about including any more Kirby characters just to not show favoritism
First off, Fire Emblem, second off, Sakurai has made it a point that he fucking hates that Kirby got more than two games, and would love nothing more than to enter an alternate timeline where he never made Kirby, so any new Kirby content added into the game cannot be chalked up to personal bias no matter how you look at it
Plus how do you explain the amiibo thing, then?
04a05b No.15088968
>>15088919
>Sakurai is stubborn about including any more Kirby characters just to not show favoritism
Palutena and Dark Pit are in Smash out of sheer favortism. Imagine if Eiji Aonuma was the Smash director. Palutena and Dark Pit would have never been on the roster.
3a1c83 No.15089097
>>15086727
>>15088919
Marx is the only sensible Kirby addition. Smash needs more villains in general
0e32da No.15089107
>>15089097
>Imagining all the K Rool porn that could happen
e4a58a No.15089169
Anyone got any guesses for when we're gonna see any more news? He said there won't be too many new characters, but I still expect at least two, maybe three, more. Have they mentioned anything about a ballot this time?
1ecf19 No.15089370
>My nigga DDD got buffed.
>MFW
7a6773 No.15089407
>>15089109
Isn't that guy dead?
118c8d No.15089491
>>15089097
K Rool confirmed? Or still rumors?
fed146 No.15089498
>>15089491
The general consensus is that K. Rool's odds this time around are really high.
There's a running theory that nearly all the newcomers in Ultimate will be based on results from the Smash 4 ballot.
118c8d No.15089540
>>15089498
I know he and Simon Belmont are in. To the point I'd be shocked if they weren't. I also heard Spyro and Crash but I'm less certain about them
118c8d No.15089556
Man, all I wanted was Banjo Kazooie
Fucking Microsoft. Destroyed Rare. I don't care if Microsoft's meat puppet said he'd like them in Smash, it's their damn fault
fed146 No.15089572
>>15089556
People are already calling that a Microsoft rep will be in, whether it be a Rareware character, or god forbid, Steve from Minecraft or Master Chief
118c8d No.15089618
>>15089572
God, please not Steve
1d5620 No.15089656
>>15089618
>>15089572
Can you imagine how much autism that would generate? How many new "Eye of the Spider"-esque songs but with Nintendo autism thrown in on top of the pre-existing Minecraft layers?
What happens when Steve gets the smash ball?
His enemies get destroyed!
3d711a No.15089996
>>15089097
>k.rool
>tetra
>tron bonne
what are some other potential vidya pirate candidates?
>>15089656
>His enemies get destroyed!
you son of a bitch
1f8975 No.15090111
>>15088968
Palutena is just fine. She's a literal magic wielding goddess.
1f8975 No.15090114
>>15089572
>>15089618
This shit deserves actual fucking murder.
1e9161 No.15090126
>>15089572
Phil Spencer did say he's fine with Banjo Kazooie or another Xbox representative appearing in a Smash game, and he is the Xbox guy. It might very well happen, although it'd be the weirdest thing ever. Master Chef in Smash might happen and if it does, I don't even know what I'll feel. Probably both excitement as well as confusion because this sort of stuff just doesn't usually happen.
81251b No.15090400
>>15090126
if halo is in smash bros people will yaoi ship him with metroid. is it even yaoi if its 2 robots?
d797bb No.15090407
>>15089618
I don't want minecraft anywhere near smash
81251b No.15090408
>>15090407
what if its the grimoire of gaia mod?
d797bb No.15090427
>>15090126
Banjo-Kazooie is more likely considering appearing on past nintendo consoles, being a fan favorite and ballot winner, and the one phil spencer wants to see
babca0 No.15091023
babca0 No.15091094
>Master Chef
At least Solid Snake had CQC and a wide array of tools to pull from, like the nikita, cypher and C4. Master chef isn't known for any kind of close combat, so they'd have to come up with some generic fighting style. For his specials only the needler could stand out as being truly unique, plasma grenades would be like Snake's C4 but he can throw it and can't control when it detonates- so basically like the gooey bomb item.
Banjo Kazooie I could see though.
As a fighter I mean; I don't see him making it in, but if he did, he'd make an alright fighter.
Only one move would really stand out though, and it'd be his talon trot.
e12041 No.15091568
>>15091094
They could just give him the sword and hammer weapons, though. Not that I think any MS-owned characters have a chance of making it in, even if MS representatives have expressed interest in the idea.
e4a58a No.15092047
I saw this and my brain popped before I realized it was probably a card for the entire presentation, not just Smash.
07cd3a No.15092074
>>15089370
I hope that's not the end of it. I love Dedede. There is something indescribably satisfying as smacking the shit out of dudes with a giant hammer.
>>15089996
>what are some other potential vidya pirate candidates?
Pic related but still impossible
>>15092047
Imagine a Solaire Assist Trophy. Or something even crazier, like Lord Gwyn or Seath.
e4a58a No.15092079
>>15089996
Get Shantae in there and you might get Risky Boots as an AT.
19e5cb No.15092207
>>15089996
>what are some other potential vidya pirate candidates?
Vyse? Not as a villain, obviously.
8b6ee5 No.15092241
>>15092207
>a third party guy from a game around 3 people on earth played
>not even the said third party cares about it anymore
>no sequels, no recent remake, only one game that didn't sell
>his doujins seem more popular than the games since there's been 10+ years of an autist drawing and selling them, and 100% of them are gay
Captain Barbarossa from Bravely Default has more chance to be in Smash, and he's not happening. I could maybe see Tiz with Agnes/Ringabel/Edea being colors like Bowser Junior, but even them I don't exactly see them making it here.
fb8a0f No.15092391
>>15092207
>Not as a villain, obviously.
are you sure? lot of illuminati symbolism going on there
98e025 No.15092679
>>15092391
>lot of illuminati symbolism going on there
I'm going to assume that you're pretending to be retarded.
263641 No.15092877
>>15092679
im going to assume youre not a shill and just blind
521537 No.15092898
>>15092877
Not when you don't provide reasoning for your retarded shitposts, no, so yeah, you're pretending to be retard.
263641 No.15092906
>>15092898
its obvious to anyone who studies this kind of thing
e4a58a No.15093161
Fuck. I just realized we didn't see anything about Dragon: Marked for Death all E3.
1f8975 No.15095014
>>15088949
Considering Super Star is the most famous and Sakurai's biggest contribution to Kirby in spite of his issues with sequels, I'd say Marx is definitely on the table, but could end up more hilariously overpowered than even Meta Knight or Bayonetta ever was with all the shit he can do. Think Kirby + faster Ridley + competitive Megaman on steroids.
d797bb No.15095049
>>15092047
Real Talk
Chosen undead/unkindled one would actually have a really cool moveset. A different weapon for every attack.
708cdf No.15096193
>>15066745
>Still complaining about Samus' boobs when they
REMOVED SNAKE'S ASS
I hope Sakurai gets assassinated for this
2cd39f No.15096278
>>15096193
This looks fucking weird.
d797bb No.15096315
>>15096193
I don't care about torpedo tits
but snake's ass is not a sexual icon. It's a testament to his hardship, training, numerable amounts of crouchings, and a testament to his manliness.
Seeing a flat neet ass on a genetically engineered soldier to be perfect not only breaks canon it just hurts the character
This is not ok. I hope feedback is enough so they revert it
0d4d26 No.15096442
>>15086274
I fucking hate you because you're right but there's literally just two likeable characters the whole game and one of them just dies unfairly. On top of the game looking ugly as sin and factions being basically nonexistent.
>>15085875
Fuck yeah, hoping they have various units help from the sidelines and Infantries and Mechs being invoked onto the stage. But you know she'll never get in because Nintendo has a strict "no guns in our funs" policy so unless they made them look really cartoony they'd not let her in.
0d4d26 No.15096456
>>15086193
>Everyone is using fucking mystical dragon slaying blades or powers that can blow a hole through titanium, don't even ask what that would do to human flesh.
>How is a tranquilizer or taser knife off limits?
DA CHILDREN CAN IMITATE BAD MAN, GUNS KILL PEOPLE, GET A LIFE, BIN THAT KNIFE M8
c753b9 No.15096479
>Taunts can be cancelled
I'm gonna have so much with Duh Cunt
e4a58a No.15096481
>>15096456
Literally this. Human threat assessment has to do with familiarity, not numbers. Unfortunately, that means advertisement and soccer moms do too. It's all gut instinct, for worse rather than better.
139152 No.15096499
>>15096456
Well, in Smash 4 Duck Hunt Duo uses guns (plate attack, explosive can and gunmen). Maybe we will get his tranquilizer this time.
b3cad5 No.15096532
>>15096193
Removing Snakes ass is like removing Marios mustache.
It just looks weird and is downright a wrong to do.
>>15096315 is right, his ass is not only one of his defining features, but a badge of honor from all of his years of training and hardship.
Nintendo has no exuse to remove his ass because they had it perfectly there in all of its glory in brawl and even captain falcon had a muscle ass back in sma4sh.
Whats going on now is just downright gay and puritan like.
e7210e No.15096681
>>15096479
>Taunts can be cancelled
its not much of a taunt if it doesnt leave you exposed. whats the point?
e26bb1 No.15096730
>>15066745
But it was changed before it even released so it's not censorship :^)
5848de No.15096787
>>15096442
>I fucking hate you because you're right but there's literally just two likeable characters the whole game and one of them just dies unfairly. On top of the game looking ugly as sin and factions being basically nonexistent.
>Game looking ugly
>Only two likable characters
Opinion Discarded. But I'll give you factions being basically non-existent simply because people and factions tends to disappear when the world is destroyed by meteors.
e7210e No.15096824
>>15066745
>Unfortunately this doesn’t compensate for the fact that the one thing that many gamers feared would eventually happen with Treehouse working closely with the Japanese teams on localization
does squiddy still have her butt?
496bcf No.15096854
>>15090126
>Banjo & Kazooie in Smash
I will actually sell my soul for this.
e7210e No.15096900
hey what the fuck why doesnt squid loli have her hotdog costume?
41c515 No.15096914
>>15091094
Master Chief has all kinds of cool tools he can use.
Armor lock for blocking and reflecting.
Energy Sword and Gravity hammer smashes.
Rocket launcher nuet special
Up special man cannon.
Down special plasma grenade
Side special master shelf boards a ghost like wario's side b and it shoots and boosts around the map.
Final Smash orbital Mac cannon blasts the stage.
If he must have fire arms you can use Amy of the covenant style weaponry.
Master Chief would be perfect for Smash. It seems most people see the super serious space marine and forget how much goofy fun stuff is in his games.
c753b9 No.15097180
>>15096681
If you've played games like JoJos HftF, taunting can be used to bait people in to attack.
Cancellable taunts add an entire new level to the gameplay with proper mindgames. Imagine playing as Duck Hunt and you toss out the oil can and taunt to lure the enemy in. When they are close enough to where you want, you can make your move.
1f8975 No.15097763
>>15096442
>only 2 likable characters
Kill yourself.
bdf4e4 No.15098310
>>15097180
what if they realize taunts can be cancelled? theyd view it as no different to an opponent standing there
0d4d26 No.15098416
>>15096787
Days of Ruin uses a god awful art style and upscaled jaypegs that are barely "animated", some of the units look almost identical (and that's why they allow you to zoom in just so you can spot their difference better) and even the character portraits look completely dissonant, you have a serious looking army general surrounded by bishonen characters and Fat Morgan Freeman - by the way the only other good character.
And before you ask, the Mayor of Freehaven did nothing wrong.
>But I'll give you factions being basically non-existent simply because people and factions tends to disappear when the world is destroyed by meteors.
That's fucking dumb but thanks for missing my point. Story-based factions exists and make sense, but there's no real graphical or technical difference between the units of either, so a bunch of ruthless barbarians from Mad Max and an organized army, remnant from their universe's United States share the same combat equipment, which is fucking lazy.
>>15097763
Right back at you, Tabithank faggot
>>15096499
The Duck Hunt Duo uses a light gun and comedic explosions, and the Wild Gunmen have very stylized pistols that kind of explode instead of shooting a bullet.
67f409 No.15098424
>>15096442
>>15098416
<just two likeable characters
>Brenner
>Morris
>Lin
>Waylon
There is clearly a mistake here.
>And before you ask, the Mayor of Freehaven did nothing wrong.
There is clearly a very grave fucking mistake here.
0d4d26 No.15098436
>>15098424
Aside from the fact that the plot point of resources being scarce making 0 fucking sense in a game where you can spam Infantry by the hundreds with no problems at all, every single character is a one-dimensional bore, Brenner is the goody two shoes "no one left behind" captain that dies a hero's death so that the rest of the cast can mourn him, Johnny Bravo is the stereotypical free spirit (the only interesting thing about him is his COP since it's pretty cool to see defensive bonuses on air units), Lin is Sonya but plainer and as I mentioned Fat Morgan Freeman is the only other good character because anyone who gets to crack up jokes in a desolate post apocalyptic scenario deserves the title of best girl.
The Mayor wanted to save himself in a scenario where the world was and still is pretty much doomed and acted as territorial as one could get, he even lets a vote be passed despite all things. He's the voice of reason of the game.
b71039 No.15098442
>>15098416
The gunman attack is actual hitscan though.
b71039 No.15098445
>>15098436
>Implying Sygismund isn't besto.
0d4d26 No.15098447
>>15098445
>Fat Hitler
He's a contender.
ebc05a No.15098459
>>15066745
Oh man I can't believe how they are trying to desexualise, Sakurai is an SJW fuck.
could you fucking autists at least complain about her face, thats the bit of the model that really needs fixing
94136a No.15098924
>>15098436
the hoops people jump through
1f8975 No.15099016
>>15098416
>>15098436
>baseless strawman
>"hurr mayor"
Fuck off already, you tryhard retard.
1f8975 No.15099018
c753b9 No.15099092
>>15098310
You would think that, but it never ends up like that
Thats why theyre called mindgames
388460 No.15099100
>>15064725
>kirby no longer swallows
>he spits
Why must they fuck with our waifus now? Getting real tired of smash tbh.
1f8975 No.15099172
>>15098436
>>15099016
The faggot literally rigged shitty votes and still got told fuck off, only cared about itself when push came to shove and constantly worded shit to make any opponent the bad guy. Then you have the gall to shit on everyone not like it just to dishonestly make it look "good".
This obnoxious, retarded hipster shit "meme" even from /v/ is beyond pathetic. Fuck off and kill yourself.
139152 No.15099346
Daily reminder that torpedotits is the thinking man's fetish.
ebc05a No.15099352
>>15099018
Its 2 now faggot, what are you going to do about it.
1f8975 No.15099538
>>15099346
There has to be something done about big tits shaming retards and delightful extermination isn't an option until the second Civil War.
>>15099352
Don't tolerate moralfaggot puritanical retardation or insult us sick of it, you little shit.
ebc05a No.15099585
>>15099538
Don't tolerate a shit model because you are too busy autistically screeching that her breasts are 2 pixels too small.
139152 No.15099598
>>15099585
Shut up you pancaketit loving sperg, torpedo all the way.
ebc05a No.15099609
>>15099598
>he likes samus having the botched botox tranny with a cheap wig look
Hows your next themarysue article coming along?
139152 No.15099661
>>15099609
Women that work out their pecs without overdoing it get torpedotits you sperg.
0d4d26 No.15099777
>>15099016
>>15098924
>>15099172
Do I have to spell out the fact that it's the goddamn joke? DoR unironically sucks in terms of anything but pure gameplay.
139152 No.15099805
>>15099777
>muh story, muh aesthetics
Gameplay is what truly matters. Everything else is just a side-bonus.
ebc05a No.15099931
>>15099661
I've only ever talked about her face you retard. The entire model is shit and your focusing on one aspect to try and drum up some shitty click bait controversy. If you want to complain, complain that the entire model is shit quality compared to the rest of the characters.
67f409 No.15100909
>>15099777
Fuck you the music was cool (albeit limited in quality by the DS's speakers) and the story wasn't any better or worse than any other Advance Wars.
1f8975 No.15101288
>>15099777
>still going
Kill yourself for wasting lucky 7s.
da9931 No.15103486
>>15099931
i want to hold my forehead to hers close my eyes and hold hands in a spiritual sense
1f8975 No.15106024
>>15100909
Just another dishonest retard on /v/.